Episode 15 - The Ultimatum Queer Love Recap: Eps. 6-10
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Natalie and Deepti recap episodes 6-10 of The Ultimatum: Queer Love. They react to revealed lies, emotional cheating, and one of the most tense reality TV reunion on Netflix history.
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I do not understand how, given that Mildred is a confirmed abuser (to the point where the police had to step in), that they gave her a platform to just lay into her victim. Why was she even allowed in the room? Let alone given the chance to continue to verbally abuse and gaslight Tiff? I'm so shocked and disappointed that this was allowed.
Kwame and Micah ran so Yoly and Xander could fly
😂😂😂 nooog
I love your podcast! I have to say though, was hoping you would adress Mildred’s abuse in a more serious way. I feel like the fact that it’s two women and plus, the fact that Tiff is more masc presenting can cloud people’s judgement a little bit, but it sounds like it was a quite serious case of domestic abuse. I honestly don’t see how the producers let Mildred be at the reunion after knowing what happened. It was very triggering tbh
I mostly agree with Natalie, but I love how understanding Deepti is being ❤
My fear is that Aussie will be totally rejected and cut off from Aussie's family when Aussie's identity comes out so Aussie is trying to avoid total rejection. However, sometimes in life this happens and I think the created family is better than a family that makes you hide who you are
I used to find deepti's positivity kind of annoying but its so nice to see the side of her that calls a spade a spade and is being much more authentic with her opinions- you girls are so entertaining I would love to see you guys discuss topics other than reality shows the body image episode was amazing !!
With how Vanessa wrote things down for her apologies - I would do the same. To have multiple cameras on you and the knowledge that my words can be edited to mean something completely different. And also to get the impression from other cast members that they don't like me and have them twist my words - I would 100% write down what I want to say.
I was hoping that you two wouldn't just glance over Domestic violence like Netflix did. When i saw the episode it should've been called what it was- domestic violence. It's clear that Mildred was abusing and gaslighting Tiff a ton during the season- plus throwing objects at your partner? nope not okay. Domestic Violence happens in many relationships and it should've been mentioned. It was shocking to see/hear about and disappointing that it was just glanced over.
I love that you guys have different view points it makes it interesting to relate to different things each of you say. I love it
Re: Vanessa writing down and reading her message to Xander in the hot air balloon, I was impressed that she prepared her thoughts so she could express them as clearly as possible. Not all of us are great with speaking off the cuff, especially when emotions are involved. In fact, people with ADHD are particularly challenged by this, btw. Not saying Van isn’t neurotypical; I have no idea. There is a whole spectrum of how well people can articulate their thoughts under pressure, with cameras, and in a high stakes emotional situation. Thank you for not judging, Natalie.
First time that I don’t really agree with most points that Natalie makes.
Sam is great and patient but she will get tired if the toxic pattern continues I think anyway. I have been that patient person and I came to my limit.
Yesss Natalie, I completely agree with your points, and yet it’s so hard to find people that don’t adore Xander regardless of what happened 😆
I think a lot of people are hypnotized by Xander 😅 I'm a straight woman (I think?) and when Xander was kissing Yoly up against the fridge I had a little moment 😍 But ya she still had her own toxic ways she was just good about keeping her thoughts and feelings to herself.
@@joanna0988 good points! I have my opinions (basically everyone is toxic in their own ways and needs therapy lol) but ultimately this is a show where people put themselves in very unnatural circumstances, and are on camera which can be very stressful. Every bad decision is filmed, and that adds pressure! And we never know how they edit things as well... All this makes entertaining cinema though XD
I agree with Deepti, when I first saw Vanessa's speech written or not it seems manipulative. She seemed to want to explore other people since day one and even explore other ideas like poly situations . Then all of a sudden when Zander explores one person romantically she felt threatened and all of a sudden and changed her mind on marriage. To me it was all about winning Zander and not actually wanting to be married and committed to Zander. She took Zander for granted.
Yoly was the worse🤮, disappointed in Xander. Realist people were Aussie, Sam, Tiff and biggest redemption was Vanessa
bro deepti, your takes on xander/yoly stressed me out!! 😭😭 noooo, 100% with natalie on that one!
I think when you're in a relationship ad have friends of the opposite sex you should include your partner when hanging out like have group activities or double dates
A case for Xander though... Given that y'all know from LIB that contestants were supposed to get to the weddings even if they knew it wouldn't work out, maybe Xander would have left Vanessa earlier if they could. Maybe they were contractually obligated to see out their second trial marriage. I agree that Yoly is the worse transgressor here becuase she loved Xander but STILL SAID YES to Mal. When the time came to make a decision, maybe even at the earliest opportunity given the rules of the show, Xander said no.
Loved this! And also....are we gonna talk about LIB Brazil season 3? OMG!!!
The dads were great!!lol
When I watched the show, I thought that putting someone in a hot air balloon and then going up and then saying mushy things was manipulative. Because your partner can't walk away or get upset if they are stuck up in the air. Plus if there was any fear of heights going on, that would maybe mix in with the emotional relationship stuff and make you just not want to rock the boat or not be able to think clearly in the moment. It was like, needing the person who is talking to you (or at you) for comfort and security while you are in a somewhat dangerous position.
Vanessa was like erk’ing me through out the whole show…and it took me a minute to understand why and then it clicked in and that thing is: her verbal and emotional responses didn’t match, I’m not saying she doesn’t feel or her emotions weren’t real,it’s just that none of that reached me.She seems like an amazing woman although not my favorite person on the show…by the way I love ya’lls podcast 😊
natalie’s energy here was not it, she’s deflecting her trauma and her own bad experiences
I’m not defending Vanessa at all, but I think she puts her foot in her mouth when she speaks A LOT, and that’s why she has to write down her thoughts beforehand. There were a few instances where she was put in the spot and totally said things she shouldn’t have. 😂
Will you talk about LIB Brazil season 3? That was great!!!
So good!
Also, not a fan of my partner having close woman friendships. I personally do not date men who have a lot of girlfriends but it’s also something I offer. I don’t think it’s wrong necessarily, but I know I wouldn’t feel happy or comfortable with it. I would never go out of my way to end a friendship though. I know a man who has a lot of woman friends is not the person for me and I don’t bother with the connection.
I hated Vanessa in the beginning, warmed up to her at the end. Loved Lexi in the beginning, lost respect for her at the end.
When I look at Xander I see a lil pup 🐶 she can’t do no wrong bc of that!!! But if this was someone else viewers would hate them…
I agree with deepti, xander fan🎉
My question about the Aussie not telling their family, is should we be thinking about it as if they have normal family relationships.
I think theres a difference between being low/no contact with your family (and therefore not telling them about Sam) and talking to your mom and dad everyday, not ever mentioning your long term partner 🤔
Given the trauma Aussie has gone through, I legitimately doubt the latter, but who knows 🫣
But also TIFF is no saint, you guys missed to talk about how she wanted to split the rent three way's because of Mildred's son. Also the fact they were not even making money at that time, seems totally wrong. Also, when they were living with Sam, they expected Sam to make the adjustment for the dog but they can't even be considerate about their partner's child.
FWIW I believe Tiff clarified that they asked to split utilities, not rent?
I like your podcast! I have to say, Deepti- I think it’s a red flag that you have a lot of guy friends that you cuddle with 🫣😂
Bahaha yes it sounds like they want more but Deepti keeps it at the friend zone. Which is totally her right however a new guy might not love that 😅
Hahahahaha yeah, I wouldn't like that even though I trust my man around girls 😂
Xander had her eyes opened by the other people on the show to Vanessa's selfishness. I think Xander had moved on even though she still had love for Vanessa
First comment?! 😮😮
Love the podcast 😊😊
I think it’s interesting that everybody wants to jump on Yoly. Yall clearly cannot fathom loving more than one person. Polyamory is a thing, there are dynamics that can exist outside of monogamy. They went on this show knowing that they could possibly find someone better suited. Yoly and Xander both found someone who wanted the same and didn’t feel like they were asking for too much. Mal literally knew Yoly falls easily, so like why wouldn’t she fall in love with someone who has the same big life goals. I love Mal but like why propose? Like you knew this before and it was confirmed… so why continue down that road?!?Yoly was honest about her love for Xander, literally said in love.. not like, not vibe with… literally in love so why would we expect them to stay away from each other when trying to figure things out? Yoly is a grown person who also understand that Mal has been there, she can’t dismiss the love that has been cultivated, the commitment that they’ve already shared, and of course Mal is an amazing human so of course it would be hard to consider leaving that for someone you just met? Did they both do things that were disrespectful to each others partners, yes but so did most of the cast lol it’s part of the drama of it all and human relationships. I also think they could been more accountable for the times that they were being shady. But like y’all wanna focus on that (even though we are human and make mistakes) and not the fact that Mildred is an abuser and they let her back for the reunion ☹️
I get it that your generation think that you are so "advanced" I refuse to watch shows like the one you describe.
To me taking a step back with your guy friend in respect to his girlfriend and not hanging out alone anymore sounds so weird?.. Like how little trust is there in the relationship? There’s a difference between the love for a friend and a partner. I would honestly rather have my partner cheat than for them to loose there connection to a friend just for me.
right :') the idea that men and women can't be friends is wild to me, a lesbian.
I always did this with my male friends because lots of women get competitive and sour the friendship to the point where it can't be repaired so I rather give space and keep my friend.
Yoli also posts pics w girls who look like mal 😂like girl we already dislike you don’t do mal bogus like that lol
How can a person's name be a pronoun. Pronouns are used to avoid the repetitive use of a noun. I understand they/them , xie whatever. But a name??? Smh
Right? I feel like things like this take the seriousness off the conversation. Cuz if you don't identify with any gender there's already pronouns for that, if you are confused, etc. If the person wants to be called like this, ok. It won't kill me do it. But on the bigger scope of things, that doesn't do anything for the pronouns conversation. Again, it's a name. If it was presented as "just call me by my name, avoid pronouns", it would be a different thing. I do my best to refer to Aussie as Aussie, but I agree with you.
how do you even understand they its the dumbest thing in the world - he/she pronouns should be the last thing the lgbqt community cares about and it wouldn't be so annoying if they didn't make SUCH a big deal about getting pronouns wrong