Thank you Rob! This is fantastic. I would love to hear your in-depth thoughts on the new Tzeentch now that the dust has settled a bit as well. Keep on killing it with the great content!
I'm glad I found your RUclips page. I used to watch all of your game narrations when you used to do commentary for the Warhammer Twitch games. Also thanks for the additional input while doing this batteltome review. I am currently fielding an all-Ogroid army just for giggles and grins. The addition of an Ogroid Thaumaturge has really helped my "glass cannon" army for my casual play game wins.
Best in the biz, folks. I've read the tome over a bunch and your takes and talks on synergy continue to be second to none! Video format is *Chef's Kiss* Thanks for all the time you put in brother
Just got started with Slaves to Darkness as a small side project. First browsed and went wow 240 points for that is good! Then realized that was for 5 and 480 points for the unit of 10. 😅
Curious to hear what people think regarding the optimum unit size for Chosen. Currently building my FOMO box, and stuck on wether or not to run two units of 5 or a big death star blob of ten. Collected for years, but haven’t played much Sigmar. Excited to try and dive into it with the new book for my favorite army. Thank you for the awesome review Rob!
Chariots being battleline is so dang fun. I'd love to do an entirely chariot army with different conversions for every mark, I'm just scared one battletome will come along and un-battleline them to make the army illegal :(
Hello there! My community keeps saying I cant use the Bloodsecrator and Bloodbound friends to buff up my STD army 😂😂😂 the claim the Khorne FAQ removes this option… but great review again, thank you! 🎉🎉🎉
The slaughter brute is absolute trash, AND YET whenever I have brought one along it's never failed to kill it's points back and then a little. And it's a great distraction piece.
@The Honest Wargammer preferably something squishy. I put him on the flank I intend to immediately abandon with a babysitter. He only needs to kill 200pts to earn his points back.
Slaughterbrute was for me Always No Option. Because the MVB is absolute stunning beautiful crazy cool hot model and wins the rule of cool without competitors.
So if I wanted to take coalition StD in my Hedonites force, they wouldn't be able to make Mark of Chaos into Slaanesh since its not a Slaves to Darkness Army?
Just to clarified, when you mention the Chaos Chosen bomb, you point out Bloodsacrator for his buff, how does that work, he work only for BoC unit no? Or do I missing something
@@TheHonestWargamer could it still work other way around,khorn chosen in BoK ? Or do they lose the bonus from mark of khorn if they get allyed in to blades?
I suppose it's good that the marauder hossbois aren't quite as good as they are now; they currently debuff bravery. Chaos Knights also lost that. I think the slaughterbrute is a really bad sign for Khorne, it kind of demonstrates that they still don't have any inspired ideas for Khorne, it's still just "moar attac" I would have liked to have seen how the mindstealer sphiranx was updated, I just painted mine up for Khorne, so I hope they haven't gone and invalidated it.
God I want the Mutalith beast for my Disciples of Tzeentch now !!!. What would you recommend as a coalition uint for Magottkin ? Chaos Warriors or Varanguard ?
Is it worth taking Knights of the empty throne and not taking a Varanguard general? Getting ready for a Path to Glory and the multi model thing doesnt mesh with the Warlord rules.
4+ Rally is a big nerf to anything that tries to shoot you for certain. You're looking at melee to kill these things and you need to be able to stand in combat against their swings back at you.
Idk why you would take ensorcelled warhammer on the Doom knight in chaos knights. Less attacks than lance, worse range, same hit and wound profile as lance, and lance gets even better on charge
Archie looks so busted. If you can't muck him up with a mountain of cheap screens , he's gonna just wreck face. Some rough mathhammer has him basically never dying to even some of the strongest hammers in the game, especially so with Mark of Nurgle.
@@TheHonestWargamer Honestly? Probably even over the course of the game given his healing potential. I don't think this means he'll necessarily be able to go fully buck wild without support and not die in every matchups but I think he's going to be functionally unkillable against many armies and will required sustained beat down from some of the heaviest hammers in the game to die against the armies that can. Max sized unit of fulminators on the charge with AOA doesn't kill Regular Archie, assuming Archie has either best day ever or AOD, which is pretty safe to assume he'll have one or the other, and that's probably about the hardest hitting thing in the game on the charge barring maybe some of the new Khorne meme hammers from this book. You're gonna need stuff that can really put the DPS down over multiple combats and hope he can't heal through. A smart Archie player can easily use something to screen and disrupt some of this damage too and prevent him from dying most games. Nurgle Marked Archie in Particular is especially heinous, lol.
Too bad the Eye of Sheerian doesn't seem to work if you coalition Archaon in Nurgle/Slaanesh/Khorne or Tzeentch as it mentions i"if Archaon is in a Slaves to Darkness Army". Like you are paying the same amount of points but lose one of the key abilities of the model. Bit of a shame.
It was basically the same I have both books they only changed like 5 to 10 percent of the rules and models and ether it was really good or huge nerfs for no reason
How is this even in the same league (heh) as the Votann book? Basically no shooting, magic can be cranked but it's risky and to hit debuffs really hurt them. I'm not saying it isn't a strong book, and I'd say that the 4+ Rally is a bit much. But your comparison is pretty hyperbolic.
Some units weren't fully revealed when we made this so the rest of them are reviewed in the video - ruclips.net/video/86BNIj9SrWs/видео.html
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Excited to see this review from the guy who invented painting miniatures!
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I heard he invented paint and minitures
I can’t do better than this, good job.
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Poetry.
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Or a standing man with love…
Probably one of the best battletome reads I have ever seen nice job bro
Thanks dude
The link to the images is in the description. Really hope you like the review and excited to hear your thoughts!?
Thanks Rob, great round up!
Stonks to Darkness
Thank you Rob! This is fantastic. I would love to hear your in-depth thoughts on the new Tzeentch now that the dust has settled a bit as well. Keep on killing it with the great content!
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Hahaha same back bro
I'm glad I found your RUclips page. I used to watch all of your game narrations when you used to do commentary for the Warhammer Twitch games. Also thanks for the additional input while doing this batteltome review. I am currently fielding an all-Ogroid army just for giggles and grins. The addition of an Ogroid Thaumaturge has really helped my "glass cannon" army for my casual play game wins.
So glad I could help
Rob invented editing. He cannot be stopped
WHAT WILL I DO NEXT
6 hours cut down to 2! You're an editing wizard
Thanks bud
Best in the biz, folks. I've read the tome over a bunch and your takes and talks on synergy continue to be second to none! Video format is *Chef's Kiss* Thanks for all the time you put in brother
Those Chosen seem to be GW really nailing how to do elite infantry! They seem terrifying!
They're absolutely insane. Expensive points wise, but, bonkers enough to justify it.
Just got started with Slaves to Darkness as a small side project. First browsed and went wow 240 points for that is good! Then realized that was for 5 and 480 points for the unit of 10. 😅
@@liveanotheranime3526 ...it's still very worth. The unit is an absolute terror.
Curious to hear what people think regarding the optimum unit size for Chosen. Currently building my FOMO box, and stuck on wether or not to run two units of 5 or a big death star blob of ten.
Collected for years, but haven’t played much Sigmar. Excited to try and dive into it with the new book for my favorite army.
Thank you for the awesome review Rob!
Thanks so much! I'm going to miss my re-roll saves of 1, and re-roll hits and wounds but I'm ridiculously excited that the warriors are back! \m/
Chariots being battleline is so dang fun. I'd love to do an entirely chariot army with different conversions for every mark, I'm just scared one battletome will come along and un-battleline them to make the army illegal :(
Bolstered by Chaos + Despoilers + Mark of Khorne = Dameon Prince with 14 wounds saving 3+ and healing while killing. Nice.
Thanks, Rob! Amazing review!
Thanks xx
Great effort with editing Rob, love the review and you beat the NDA crew
Great video really helps with army selection.
Early test games in my shop running varanguard... have been very short.
Same here
Are there any ways besides mystic shield, All-out-Defence and finest Hour, to get an + 1 to Save Rolls for the new slaves to darkness?
by my will is still good for Varangaurd. Since they can only pile in twice once per battle.
Hello there!
My community keeps saying I cant use the Bloodsecrator and Bloodbound friends to buff up my STD army 😂😂😂 the claim the Khorne FAQ removes this option… but great review again, thank you! 🎉🎉🎉
6+ (targeted lol)Spell ignore on Tzeentch, but also a teleport that you can move afterwards that is not wholly within. There's some tech there
The slaughter brute is absolute trash, AND YET whenever I have brought one along it's never failed to kill it's points back and then a little. And it's a great distraction piece.
WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING AGAINST??? GNOMES!?
@@TheHonestWargamer no, Gors…. 😂
@The Honest Wargammer preferably something squishy. I put him on the flank I intend to immediately abandon with a babysitter. He only needs to kill 200pts to earn his points back.
For Cabalists I would suggest that as it says 'they become Wizards' superceeds 'cast like a Wizard'?
Slaughterbrute was for me Always No Option. Because the MVB is absolute stunning beautiful crazy cool hot model and wins the rule of cool without competitors.
So if I wanted to take coalition StD in my Hedonites force, they wouldn't be able to make Mark of Chaos into Slaanesh since its not a Slaves to Darkness Army?
Just to clarified, when you mention the Chaos Chosen bomb, you point out Bloodsacrator for his buff, how does that work, he work only for BoC unit no? Or do I missing something
Since then that's been faqd. As not working
@@TheHonestWargamer could it still work other way around,khorn chosen in BoK ?
Or do they lose the bonus from mark of khorn if they get allyed in to blades?
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Can't wait to watch this early review from my favourite content creator named Rob (Sorry, not sorry Rob B).
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3rd listen, brother. Cheers 🍻 👏 ✌️
Happy it's good
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I suppose it's good that the marauder hossbois aren't quite as good as they are now; they currently debuff bravery. Chaos Knights also lost that.
I think the slaughterbrute is a really bad sign for Khorne, it kind of demonstrates that they still don't have any inspired ideas for Khorne, it's still just "moar attac"
I would have liked to have seen how the mindstealer sphiranx was updated, I just painted mine up for Khorne, so I hope they haven't gone and invalidated it.
Perfection
Thanks Babe
God I want the Mutalith beast for my Disciples of Tzeentch now !!!. What would you recommend as a coalition uint for Magottkin ? Chaos Warriors or Varanguard ?
The demon prince. You have nurgle units that do what warriors and knights do already
Is it worth taking Knights of the empty throne and not taking a Varanguard general? Getting ready for a Path to Glory and the multi model thing doesnt mesh with the Warlord rules.
4+ Rally is a big nerf to anything that tries to shoot you for certain. You're looking at melee to kill these things and you need to be able to stand in combat against their swings back at you.
looks quite fluffy
"Buy new Chaos Warrior, Knight, Chosen, and Lords"
"Play Everchosen"
The book's subliminal marketing messaging
Um so with a warlord trait and relic
You can have fights 1st and twice demon prince?
Would the Warshrine not give itself the +6 Ward too making it a little more survivable?
Yes bud
@@TheHonestWargamer that's a nice bit of survivability! Amazing video Rob, thanks so much 😊
How do you get 4 monsters in a list? I’m looking at line breaker and it only allows you to take 3
Meanwhile the ogre book just drops with nobody noticin cuz slaves to darkness hype and a zilion 40k news on the warhammercommunity side
Dude If they had leaked. I'd be there too
Idk why you would take ensorcelled warhammer on the Doom knight in chaos knights. Less attacks than lance, worse range, same hit and wound profile as lance, and lance gets even better on charge
Cause after the charge you keep the rend and damage
Empty throne seems a lot worse than before
Archie looks so busted. If you can't muck him up with a mountain of cheap screens , he's gonna just wreck face.
Some rough mathhammer has him basically never dying to even some of the strongest hammers in the game, especially so with Mark of Nurgle.
Is that in one go or over the course of the game?
@@TheHonestWargamer Honestly? Probably even over the course of the game given his healing potential.
I don't think this means he'll necessarily be able to go fully buck wild without support and not die in every matchups but I think he's going to be functionally unkillable against many armies and will required sustained beat down from some of the heaviest hammers in the game to die against the armies that can.
Max sized unit of fulminators on the charge with AOA doesn't kill Regular Archie, assuming Archie has either best day ever or AOD, which is pretty safe to assume he'll have one or the other, and that's probably about the hardest hitting thing in the game on the charge barring maybe some of the new Khorne meme hammers from this book.
You're gonna need stuff that can really put the DPS down over multiple combats and hope he can't heal through.
A smart Archie player can easily use something to screen and disrupt some of this damage too and prevent him from dying most games.
Nurgle Marked Archie in Particular is especially heinous, lol.
Warp reality through a spell portal for a 18+9 inch teleport before you move.
Slabs to darkness? "or slaves to chop?
Holy crap, why all of this has to be so complicated...? 20 minutes in and my brain hurts already
Varanguard 4+ Rally.
"Lol"
Cant wait to shove 6-9 into my enemy just to wreck face and bring them back after fighting twice with Khorne Mark.
FAQ dropped recently. Some major changes.
Thanks for this Rob, was a great watch - question to any willing to answer, is there a difference between "your" combat phase and "the" combat phase?
"The" is anyone's combat phase
"Yours" is just in your turn
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Too bad the Eye of Sheerian doesn't seem to work if you coalition Archaon in Nurgle/Slaanesh/Khorne or Tzeentch as it mentions i"if Archaon is in a Slaves to Darkness Army". Like you are paying the same amount of points but lose one of the key abilities of the model. Bit of a shame.
I like that. Im not sure I even like allies tbh
Nah, that's as it should be.
Otherwise we risk going straight back to Archaon being better as an allied unit than he is in his own faction.
I hate that nurgle gets the best effects all the time. I despise nurgle and refuse to use the freakin mark.
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This tome was definitely not s tier at the end.
I can't say how much I don't want to play against this. Not because it is broken but because it is a literal bookkeeping nightmare.
Wish when skaven get there new book they get some love like this
Didn’t they just get a 3.0 book
It was basically the same I have both books they only changed like 5 to 10 percent of the rules and models and ether it was really good or huge nerfs for no reason
Votann to Darkness. So we all just gonna take a break when it releases til the nerf? Conquest is pretty great.
How is this even in the same league (heh) as the Votann book?
Basically no shooting, magic can be cranked but it's risky and to hit debuffs really hurt them.
I'm not saying it isn't a strong book, and I'd say that the 4+ Rally is a bit much. But your comparison is pretty hyperbolic.
Big fan of Conquest as well, but S2D is nowhere near as bad as Votann. They seem really strong and will be a big impact on the meta.
@@Lokd0wn Each unit is 10% better than their counterparts. This army will be 65% win rate easy. Come back here in 3 months and comment.
@@davedoffing8259 I'm going with 62% at 60 days, price is right rules.
@@Nodonn I was thinking 70% but was also using Price is Right rules.
its sad that slaves are better at khorne than blades are lmao
What a babe.
shame the knights lost their old hand weapons