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The Problem With Professional Disc Tournaments
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- This weekend the Minnesota Majestic went down which opened Jefferson's eyes to some of thje major problems disc golf tournaments are currently going through
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Cale has done more for the world of disc golf in MN then the PDGA itself
Minnesota is wonderful no matter how many Somalians try to ruin our reputation.
Local hero imo
I think the whole premise of this video is a bit odd. Why should the mass public care if there is a historic local tournament? I can't think of a single sport where there are storied local events that the top pros regularly show up and expect to make the same money. Maybe disc golf should focus on the pro tour and focus it's effort on the biggest tournaments so we can develop a history that has a sustainable future.
Because this channel just exists to bitch about literally everything while not even being able to read a script fluidly.
I agree with everything you guys are saying about A-tiers. Would love it if you came to Santa Cruz for Masters Cup next year. It's an awesome tournament that is being forgotten.
I got 2 minutes in to it, not enough cheese served with the whining. "Lighten up Francis".
That same day post prod coverage by GK was amazing! I was watching it almost immediately and let me tell you, that tournament was incredibly awesome to follow. A nail biter of an end and it was a pleasure to be able to watch! Thank you GK Pro an thank you DG World for highlighting this tournament for us all.
Man… I was wondering what happened to your other channel… but after watching this video, I knew the voice immediately. Glad to see you in a different Genre but not surprised with how close it is 😉
I have been watching and enjoying you guys for a while. I enjoy @Birdogiedg also. Today's analysis is what I have been looking for. It had more of that "ESPN" of the late 90s early '00s feel. (likely at some of its best) The old school box score style analysis is refreshing and engaging (at least when the play allows). Please continue to stretch the dynamic of your content and the variety of information you provide.
Pro discgolfers are like bands in the 80's travelling in a van to their next bar gig. Remember Jukebox heroes or Vic Ferrari? Most never made it but we sure loved the bands.
Love the gkpro same day vids, hard on jomez given they all literally play
Luke and Paul on coverage both played the Majestic
@@BigJuice77 oh wow, didn't realize. That's crazy impressive. From a competitors perspective I do respect prioritizing rest.
Jefferson is out of touch. High-level A tier is going to go away because there is no coverage? 🙄
No, it will just be played and won by hungry 1000 + rated locals and regional players. Which is fine, its an A tier!
I talked to a cameraman with gk pro before the lead card on Friday and was shocked when he said the video would be made available later that night.
Great vid boys!
The Tar Heel Open was an A tier this year. Nathan Queen, Evan Smith, Grady Shue, Jasper Tyll, Shultz, Schweberger, Ariel Walker, Emily Beach, Paige Shue and local hero’s Nate, Gage, Brad, Logan, Wes, Taylor, Marc (YeetStreet), Jonathan, Rich, Juda, Zizzy the list goes on and on. Gotta keep an eye on those youngsters in MJ18. The winner was 13 and the youngest player was 8.
Friendships made from that three day event are priceless. Best TD award is gonna be tough this year. Bone, Matt, Marc it’s gonna be a battle.
The local scene going on for sure! Going to Junior Worlds is gonna be interesting.
I feel like they need to switch up 80% of the courses on the tour. Their is plenty of beautiful course that could and would challenge pros. They get used to playing the same courses and with diffrent courses maybe some shorter courses where they have to use strategy then strength. This course was beautiful. I feel like switching courses would make more people watch and bring more money in for the pros. But im new to the sport so im probably wayoff lol
Kept waiting for Swiss to breakdown FPO that had zero coverage. Unless I'm missing something somewhere.
No comment on Adam yelling at someone on the chase card after he missed a putt?
They did comment
Presnell gave his account of the event in a Reddit comment:
“When Adam was about to putt, the chase card had someone/a player (not sure who) smack what sounded like their leg with their disc about 5 times very loudly. Adam reset, then missed. Definitely threw him off his rhythm.”
I liked the coverage that GK did
Where was the Majestic tournament held before Blue Ribbon Pines became a course? BRP has only been around for about 18 years or so I think. They said it went back 40 years. Was it Kaposia?
The Majestic started in 1987 (37 years ago). It's been held at Kaposia at least 20 times over the years.
The last time the majestic was played at VisionQuest was actually 2017. Cale got it wrong in the press conference.
Vision Quest opened in 2015, and the Majestic was held at Kaposia, BRP, and Vision Quest that year. The Majestic was also held at BRP & Vision Quest in 2016 & 2017, as well.
Love the vids and news updates, but please do not post the video with a screenshot of the tournament winner. Was finishing the final round coverage this morning and seen your video while scrolling. Many disc golf fans watch the tournament after completion and it is frustrating to already know the winner. Keep up the good work, but please be mindful when posting future vids.
Is there going to be any post production of the FPO at The Majestic?
You guys should go to CCR open in Lansing MI the weekend before DGLO q-series and the course is sweet
Very Jefferson friendly. Not so Swiss friendly
Every hole should have some local group who represent that whole. For example. I can see kids from boys and girls club surrounding the T-pads. But you have to give them a reason to come out. How about free clinics? How about a kids tournament the day before for them even if it’s a a different course near by. How about having food truck event scheduled the same weekend. How about having a local band concert?
I spotted you in the crowd following lead card
I played a B-tier this weekend in Red Feather Lakes, CO and because last card follows first, got to follow the pros. Nate Metzier edged out Joel Freeman for the W and I must say there is nothing like watching a tourney live. Video is ok but gives no real sense of surroundings.
Can you bring the merch back??
like a afdo in rochester older running event at 51 years
Right
If you want more people to attend or screen watching tournaments a lot more connections need to be made. Making national and local connections through other groups like Boy and Girl Scouts, YMCA’s local businesses associations etc.
For tournaments to gain more event attendance more needs to be offered at the tournament than just watching disc golf. There should be clinics, community rounds and small competitions that pros either lead or participate in with non pros. Honestly I’d rather be playing disc golf than watching it. And if I’m not a player and I am a fan then I want to have as much interaction with the people I’m a fan of.
Admittedly the purses in even the best-paid events of 2024 are comical compared with PGA purses in the 1960s. Of the top 10 PGA earners in 1965, the earnings ranged from $140K to $58K. And those are in 1965 dollars.
Who won FPO?
OHN
The problem with this......... done
That A tier was almost as good of a watch as the one Presnell one imo.
Is the problem having tournaments spoiled with a video thumbnail of the winner? Second tourney in a row for me spoiled. First the pro tour highlight thumbnail, now this. Please let it stop!
Live sports can't be spoiled my guy
Luke Humphries spoiled it pretty bad for me at hole 17.
Facts facts facts
Thumbnail ruined it for me…
This guy obviously has zero business sense. A 15 second ad CAN be effective if done right.. And if you need to rely on "support" from businesses to fund your sport- you do not have a legitimate product to sell. Disc golf is where it deserves to be right now. Too many people think this sport should be compared to high paid professional sports in every aspect. The demand from the public for a product dictates the inflow of money. Just because you love a sport it doesn't mean it should be a massive mainstream success. And be careful what you wish for. You may find out that THIS IS the best time to be involved in the sport.
The Problem With Professional Disc Tournaments: we are a small youtube channel that gets paid like a small youtube channel, and we want to get paid more, with money from somewhere (we don't know where)
Well if all the higher ups in the PDGA didn’t spend all the Members $$ on personal parties, dinners. More money to the players and courses wouldn’t be in question. If it wasn’t for the volunteers, the Pro tour and the PDGA would be unable to function and be would be flat broke. Follow the money.
-41, now that’s boring/too easy of golf.
Why is every thumbnail and video titled "this is what's wrong with disc golf"?
No history on the event??? Did you even step foot in the pro shop? They have a picture of all the past winners on the wall!
No money in disc golf? Or just this event? Ray didnt even charge spectators Friday and Saturday.
Why did pros play this event? They didnt have to travel to another event for 2 weeks (Iowa). Why not sign up and play while you're in the area.
There's a story why earnings money declined after 2005.
I don't really understand what you're complaining about.
Wah and spolier whiny babies are wah too.
Everybody thinks that getting people to donate money for payouts is easy until they try to get people to donate money for payouts.
All athletes consider disc golf a joke till they are challenged with carrying thier own bag and walking 18 holes on a wooded course. Proved that fact last weekend with a newbe.
Damn, that person must be wildly out of shape of they can't carry a bag for 18 holes. I got a cart, then stopped using it because it's honestly not hard at all to carry a full bag around. And it was harder to bring the cart places since it was a backpack cart to top it off.
I'm personally about 60 pounds overweight and play disc golf on ski hills semi frequently. It's not that difficult to carry a bag and hike 8-10k feet at the same time. The hardest part about disc golf is just being consistent.
People don't care about disc golf. Maybe about a million people in the world. That's literally nothing.
Thumb nail spoiler
Proper socialism here with donations for better content. Money for the people by the people
What?
Would ypu guys mind not putting the winner of the tourny on the thumbnail? I just got out of work and had been waiting to watch the last round of the preserve, but now i know the winner from the thumbnail. like, at least dont show him holding the damn trophy.
Video was great, but i would have waited and watched tomorrow. If gk pro is so on top of it, maybe you guys shouldnt be. otherwise i have to unsubscribe and i dont wanna miss the videos. I just dont want spoilers on the same damn day.
No one has to put their lives on hold just because of someone else
Stay tf off social media geez . talk about spoilers but still scroll yt is literally insane
Yea. Some channels don’t think about spoilers. And least give it a few days . Not much to ask.
@@NRafa7 you don’t get views by waiting till you’re ready.
@@waynebryant1857 He could’ve just left off the winner on the thumbnail. That’s it.
So many bad takes in this video.
Inflation kiddo
Non-DGPT tournaments are more fun amd entertaining to watch than stuffy old Pro Tour.