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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2017
  • So many of you have been asking about this for months so we finally address it. What is up with Catalonia?
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  • @GeographyNow
    @GeographyNow  6 лет назад +1199

    Fun unrelated side note: All those flags behind me on the chair I'm sitting on are actually part of my Halloween costume I'm wearing to a party. Anyway Enjoy this video. Jordan comes next week.

    • @juliesgamingscaletta7332
      @juliesgamingscaletta7332 6 лет назад +11

      Geography Now very controversial 😂☀️

    • @OxoKen
      @OxoKen 6 лет назад +23

      CATALONIA IS SPAIN

    • @sudocreme5080
      @sudocreme5080 6 лет назад +3

      Geography Now moist

    • @deadset15-hrvavik17
      @deadset15-hrvavik17 6 лет назад +3

      Geography Now notification squad is hereby

    • @Pherron
      @Pherron 6 лет назад +3

      Geography Now Thanks for the video! Always enjoy them! :D

  • @manuelbonet
    @manuelbonet 6 лет назад +1022

    1:13 Correct, but to some extent. Spain is divided into autonomous communities. Most of these, such as Aragón, Catalonia, Galicia, the Basque Country and Asturias, also have their own culture, language, traditions, cuisine...

    • @alonsogeesink-anton5343
      @alonsogeesink-anton5343 6 лет назад +5

      Manuel Bonet most*

    • @manuelbonet
      @manuelbonet 6 лет назад +46

      alonso geesink-anton Not all of them speak other languages

    • @abbyferrari
      @abbyferrari 6 лет назад +29

      That's what I thought... If Spain accepts the independence peacefully. All of the other regions would want it too.

    • @manuelbonet
      @manuelbonet 6 лет назад +85

      Abby Ferrari I doubt that. Most are happy for still being part of Spain.

    • @casrvsfv3172
      @casrvsfv3172 6 лет назад +51

      Manuel Bonet yes, because languages were established in the middle ages according to the nations back then, so a language means there was an entity that standardised that language some 1000 years ago, nothing more.
      Besides every region in northern Spain (the one not conquered by the moors, the medieval resistance of old) has a language, Aragon has a language, the Basques, Cantabria is the birth place of Spanish, Catalonia, Asturian has a language, Galicia has a language... EVERY MEDIEVAL KINGDOM HAS A LANGUAGE! The only difference is Catalonia, Basque Country and Galicia were relevant regions in the 19th century when the Romantic love for the dark ages revived medieval languages and only those three brought their medieval language back with Pompeu Fabra in Catalonia.
      Besides, it's quite an irrelevant argument based on ignorance, Venice, Genoa, Naples, Tuscany... Have their own languages in Italy, Brittany, Occitanie, Provence, Alsace, Gascony, Normandie... Had their own languages in France... *Do I go on with regions in Europe with separate languages?* the only difference is in Spain we encouraged them and there they banned them, now we see the consequences of being easy on regional symbology don't we? The French were far smarter.

  • @PLS-PG
    @PLS-PG 3 года назад +73

    Still waiting for Geography Now: Spain

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge 3 года назад +6

      Can't wait for that

    • @claupas24
      @claupas24 3 года назад +1

      We have to wait for 2 more countries yet

    • @t_nicki
      @t_nicki 3 года назад +1

      I'm waiting for Tajikistan 🇹🇯 and Turkmenistan 🇹🇲

    • @jorgeh.r9879
      @jorgeh.r9879 3 года назад

      Me too. It's coming soon

    • @murselpatpat4270
      @murselpatpat4270 3 года назад +1

      @@t_nicki I am waiting for Turkey brothers

  • @WildFreck
    @WildFreck 6 лет назад +334

    Do a video explaining Kosovo, I have no idea why people hate it and why it exist.

    • @calvinballiu4995
      @calvinballiu4995 6 лет назад +12

      WildFreck and the difference between Catalonia and Kosovo Kosovo mostly have albanians who are different from serbs and Catalonia they speak the same language

    • @BamBamGT1
      @BamBamGT1 6 лет назад +114

      the people of kosovo are a foreign population of albanians who started migrating to Serbia after the Ottoman Empire conquered Serbia. influx of more immigrants, higher birthrate, a few genocides against serb populations by the Ottoman Empire, and these albanians became a majority in that part of Serbia. When they wanted independence in the 90's. war broke out with Serbia. The UN intervened, bombed the Serbian capital, and gave Kosovo Independence. Oh and FYI, most of these albanians are muslim
      So in a nutshell, the UN forced Serbia to give up a part of it's historical homeland to a muslim immigrant population that failed to integrate. That's kinda something most people don't actually agree with. Is the UN gonna bomb your country next when immigrants become a majority in a part of your country?

    • @Artem-sp8rg
      @Artem-sp8rg 6 лет назад +49

      The fun part is that the same ones that recognized Kosovo will hypocritically reject Catalonia

    • @calvinballiu4995
      @calvinballiu4995 6 лет назад +9

      Artem It's because Kosovo and Catalonia are two different things. Catalans are spanish but kosovars are albanian

    • @Artem-sp8rg
      @Artem-sp8rg 6 лет назад +18

      calvin Balliu Both cases are quite similar in terms of political recognition, I’m talking about western countries hypocrisy when it comes to those issues. Which is very ugly...

  • @Guimaster127
    @Guimaster127 6 лет назад +475

    0:58 Just a thing: Aragon and Castille united because of a royal marriage, not a war.
    k thx

    • @Serfabiano
      @Serfabiano 6 лет назад +63

      Yet the marriage that united the regions into what would become Spain was not between the two people mentioned in the video, but between Queen Isabella I of Castile and King Ferdinand II of Aragon. He just mentioned a completely unrelated marriage

    • @Guimaster127
      @Guimaster127 6 лет назад +35

      That marriage was to unite the Kingdom of Aragon with the Catalan counties to form the Aragonese Crown, which would LATER unite with Castille with another marriage to form Spain.

    • @joanmm2930
      @joanmm2930 6 лет назад +8

      Tienes razón, he visto unos cuantos deslizes historicos importantes

    • @miguelangellazarosalcedo7315
      @miguelangellazarosalcedo7315 6 лет назад +1

      Sergio Fabian The couple he mentinoned in the video was the marriage that united Aragon and Catalonia

    • @joanmm2930
      @joanmm2930 6 лет назад +1

      Por favor, lee los comentarios anteriores en este hilo

  • @matthewellis2008
    @matthewellis2008 6 лет назад +123

    "after the zimbabwe episode" ahaHAHAH

  • @versguversgu8
    @versguversgu8 4 года назад +605

    If Catalonia wants to be Independent for having their own language and culture then Italy should be divided in like 40 000 countries.

    • @thanos5171
      @thanos5171 4 года назад +178

      Don't even start on the giant mess India would become if it were divided solely based on language and culture.

    • @Cosmopolitm
      @Cosmopolitm 4 года назад +16

      It's funny in both cases the north are developed and the south lazy

    • @versguversgu8
      @versguversgu8 4 года назад +28

      @@Cosmopolitm south are not lazy lol

    • @montimuros2837
      @montimuros2837 4 года назад +21

      If not culture and language, what should be the criteria for delimitating states? Besides, most Catalan independentists wish for a federal Europe.

    • @f1016
      @f1016 4 года назад +18

      It is not that they have to be forced to separate, it is just that those regions that want to be independent have the right to it.

  • @Icenri
    @Icenri 6 лет назад +188

    You missed quite a lot in this video, from the history of the union between Castille and Aragon to the political situation that made necessary the use of force by the Spanish law system, not the Spanish Government.
    Also, War of Succession wasn't a war between Spain and Catalonia, but, as it names properly says, about king's succesion.
    More info at Alexander Winter's comment.

    • @FerranLorenteV
      @FerranLorenteV 4 года назад +2

      it was not necessary piripiri, it wasn't the law, the lax permites a referendum

    • @aftp6646
      @aftp6646 3 года назад +3

      The majority of Catalonia did support the Habsburg candidate together with for example the Brits and Dutch. Catalonia lost big time when the centralist Bourbon won the battle. The Nova Planta decrees suppressed Catalan culture and language. They even closed the Barcelona university and built a huge fortress in Barcelona (La Ciutudella) to suppress the population.

    • @georgezee5173
      @georgezee5173 2 года назад +2

      @@aftp6646 You said they closed the university of Barcelona, but at the same time you omitted the fact that they moved it to Cervera (Lleida) instead, which is in the very centre of Catalonia. Typical Catalan separatist propaganda: telling half lies.

    • @yerip4657
      @yerip4657 Год назад

      ​@@georgezee5173saying that Lleida is in the middle of Catalonia just shows how little you know about Catalonia

  • @ezyzet
    @ezyzet 6 лет назад +140

    They'd get vetoed by Spain if they applied for an EU membership, I think

    • @_naianima_
      @_naianima_ 4 года назад +3

      Ur right

    • @aviaviavian
      @aviaviavian 4 года назад +1

      Does Spain have that power in the UN?

    • @LoboDibujante
      @LoboDibujante 4 года назад +19

      @@aviaviavian All the countries must comply to another state joining.

    • @shayne-1880
      @shayne-1880 4 года назад +2

      Moonlit Snowstorm Not in the UN, but Catalonia still would likely lose the vote

    • @paulaterry9305
      @paulaterry9305 4 года назад +2

      Unless Spain doesn't rejoin

  • @cromotocciano
    @cromotocciano 5 лет назад +34

    Everyone leaves out the Spanish civil war when talking about Catalonia or WW2

  • @willsaenz6320
    @willsaenz6320 3 года назад +93

    Catalonia: We want independence
    Spain: Ok, you probably can't play in La Liga anymore, then
    Catalonia: No wait

    • @jorgeh.r9879
      @jorgeh.r9879 3 года назад +9

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Buenísimo. El mejor comentario de aquí

    • @DavidDavid-cq2ly
      @DavidDavid-cq2ly Год назад +1

      welsh teams in the prem be like: disagree noise

  • @CopingMommy
    @CopingMommy 6 лет назад +23

    Hi, am not sure whether you will actually read this comment, but I have a five year old son, Lucas who absolutely loves your channel. He has taken a liking to geography and stumbled on your channel while searching for countries of the world. After he watched this video post on Catalonia, he gathered several books, placed it in a large box and asked me where you lived so that he could post it to you as a present. p/s those books are actually handwritten notes and drawings on countries and space, a project he started a few weeks ago. I found it too cute not to share with you. He tells me that he finds your videos very interesting and that you are very funny. I think my son has found his first "idol" haha. Thank you for inspiring my son to learn more about geography. Kudos for the good work you and your team do.

  • @guillermocaballero5998
    @guillermocaballero5998 6 лет назад +37

    As a Spanish citizen, the situation here is disgusting. Our government is weak and the outcome is very uncertain. It is all going to end up damaging both sides

    • @bongdonkey
      @bongdonkey 6 лет назад

      Pinche Spain!lol!!!!

    • @pythonmentor
      @pythonmentor 6 лет назад +1

      I really don't like how everything is going either. Would you have been fine with a referendum that was agreed upon on both sides and the outcome would have been respected?

    • @pythonmentor
      @pythonmentor 6 лет назад +1

      Álvaro Well, the Spanish constitution is quite backwards. If the people are not allowed to determine their own future and they are not able to change the constitution, then what sort of democracy is that? I suppose your reasoning for letting all Spaniards vote comes from the fact that it impacts all Spaniards. But if you compare it with literally anything else, only the person/people directly affected by something vote for something. The US can not join a trade agreement, even though it might affect other countries heavily. If you want to quit your job, you can do so without your employers consent, even if that means the bankruptcy of that company. Or to stay by the example of separating a region from Spain, it would affect literally everybody in the world, but they are not allowed to vote - for good reason.

    • @guillermocaballero5998
      @guillermocaballero5998 6 лет назад +1

      Matthias Schreiber I see your point. The Spanish constitution is not democratic at all and thus there's no reason to support it. I understand people in Catalonia, the Spanish government has always been full of flaws and instability. However I don't think quitting Spain is a good idea for them since they won't be accepted in the EU, another thing I deem as illogical.

    • @pythonmentor
      @pythonmentor 6 лет назад

      Álvaro I am glad you removed the offensive part of your comment :) If you make a point, then you have to explain, otherwise you could have not written anything at all and it would have been the same.

  • @n3ppy632
    @n3ppy632 6 лет назад +137

    Just to keep you thinking...
    You can only kiss yourself in the mirror on the lips

    • @akm7463
      @akm7463 6 лет назад +27

      Did you know it took five seconds to...
      ...to count five seconds

    • @NessieAndrew
      @NessieAndrew 6 лет назад

      Pallav B That's stolen from Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

    • @jeiku5314
      @jeiku5314 6 лет назад +1

      Silly commenter. There's a mirror in the way.

    • @augustd.3693
      @augustd.3693 6 лет назад +3

      *Insert head explosion*

    • @CoolioXXX52
      @CoolioXXX52 6 лет назад

      Why would that keep you thinking?

  • @dianfresaify
    @dianfresaify 6 лет назад +13

    i stumble upon Geography Now channel about a week ago, and i'm already binge watching everything. I don't understand why this channel doesn't have millions of subscribers yet, it's hard to find educational channel about countries in youtube that is political side free. i recommend this channel to all my student friends in Indonesia. Good work, Mr. Barby😃

  • @cristianrodriguez-zd9ok
    @cristianrodriguez-zd9ok 6 лет назад +178

    Though I was born in the US, my family is from the northwest region of spain (galicia) and the argument about how different catalunya is from the rest of spain is a very hollow one. Every area of spain has its own culture and separate traditions and holidays. Spain is not all flamenco and bull fights. There are 4 languages in spain which a ton of people don't even realize as well as extremely different cultures across the peninsula and the various islands (catalonia is not special in any way because all of spain is diverse). Also the argument i seem to hear a lot about the contribution of their economy being disproportionately larger than the aid and funding they receive is also flawed. Should new york city or other major economic centers across the country want independence here in the US because they contribute more to federal tax dollars, the economy etc. than the average american? No.

    • @miquelcanosasanteularia1678
      @miquelcanosasanteularia1678 4 года назад +7

      The difference is that you adopted spanish traditions and we did not

    • @goodaimshield1115
      @goodaimshield1115 4 года назад +17

      The funny thing is that bullfights as we know them now a days were born in Catalonia, and were super typical there, till they decided it was "too Spanish" (well, yes, Caloania is Spain, so obviously, everything Catalan is going to be Spanish). I'm not a fan of bullfights, but Catalonia's separatists argument is stupid. The day the rest of Spaniards decide fuet it better than jamón serrano they will stop producing fuet because it is "Spanish and not Catalan enough". Flamenco is a made up thing from the early 19th century and is only danced traditionally in a small region of Andalucía.

    • @GeoTren28
      @GeoTren28 4 года назад +16

      @@miquelcanosasanteularia1678 catalan traditions are spanish. Remember you're still Spanish and you will always be Spanish.

    • @Neilos-sd6ti
      @Neilos-sd6ti 4 года назад +2

      your argument is very hollow, culture/economy is no the only reason you have to take in account history and thee average catalonian who wants independence(even if it is/isn't a minority it is a right for people to decide their fate)
      if a country shouldn't be independent just because of culture why isn't all of europe a single unified country?

    • @Neilos-sd6ti
      @Neilos-sd6ti 4 года назад +1

      @@goodaimshield1115 romans had gladiators, do you see them still doing that? cultures change and evolve in 500 years spain might be something totally different than today.

  • @giratina4793
    @giratina4793 6 лет назад +79

    Plot twist: Catalonia is actually Portugal

    • @EbraeliVachari
      @EbraeliVachari 6 лет назад +1

      No, its actually Serbija

    • @mihajlo33
      @mihajlo33 3 года назад

      perhaps

    • @vgjl1824
      @vgjl1824 3 года назад +1

      Cataluña es española payaso

    • @VictorLdVS
      @VictorLdVS 3 года назад

      @@vgjl1824 tu sí que eres un payaso

    • @oier2995
      @oier2995 3 года назад +1

      @@vgjl1824 catalunya es serbia

  • @raultamudo160
    @raultamudo160 6 лет назад +312

    I am Catalan and you forgot to mention a big important factor. Catalan are divided some want Independence and many others like myself don't. This is not a Spain vs Catalonia thing but rather a Spain + Catalan Unionists vs Catalan Separatists. Also, the flag you showed on this video is NOT the Catalan flag. The Catalan flag is called "Senyera" and has no triangle or star and it's the official flag of the region of Catalonia. The "Estelada", the one you showed on your video, it's the unofficial flag that represents Independence from Spain.

    • @NejisMate
      @NejisMate 6 лет назад +39

      He knows that's the independence flag, that's why he's using it. We're talking about Catalan independence, not Catalonia in general.

    • @PrincessLockette
      @PrincessLockette 6 лет назад +3

      Raul Tamudo I just hope no one gets killed.

    • @NejisMate
      @NejisMate 6 лет назад +19

      Nobody will get killed! There'll be a few people ending up in prison though.

    • @raultamudo160
      @raultamudo160 6 лет назад +9

      Faridul Haque I speak Catalan with my dad and Spanish with my mother.

    • @mlm7751
      @mlm7751 4 года назад +7

      @@PrincessLockette is spain nobody will be killed is a safe country

  • @jcaam8094
    @jcaam8094 6 лет назад +322

    Every region in Spain has different culture, food, language etc does that mean Spain should be broken into 7 countries??????

    • @crisl6803
      @crisl6803 5 лет назад +46

      dude catalonia is way more discriminated, like waaaaaaay more. Most catalans first of all speak spanish as a second language, which doesn't happen anywhere else in Spain. And basically there are lots of economical issues involved, not just cultural

    • @shuepsx652
      @shuepsx652 5 лет назад +84

      @@crisl6803 You have traveled very little if you think speaking the regional language as first language only happens in Catalonia. I suggest you to visit small villages in Galicia, Asturias, León etc...

    • @crisl6803
      @crisl6803 5 лет назад +20

      @@shuepsx652 Yes but I'm not talking about small parts and a significant minority. I clearly said MOST, the MAJORITY of catalonia speaks catalan as a first. And that does not happen anywhere else in spain

    • @aaron_collen
      @aaron_collen 5 лет назад +30

      @@crisl6803 It also happends in Galicia and Euskadi. Trust me, I live here.

    • @akashmitra6411
      @akashmitra6411 5 лет назад +35

      Come to india.. 29 states speak 29 different language

  • @juliovnobre
    @juliovnobre 6 лет назад +1

    Living in Barcelona right now, that's a good summary of the situation. Keep up the good work!

  • @fxa93
    @fxa93 6 лет назад +7

    Fun fact, the war of the 1700s had nothing to do with Catalonia independence and everything to do with Catalonia supporting the Austria royal house instead of the Borbon. And they were also not the only region to support that claim as Spain was divided on who should be king.

    • @goodaimshield1115
      @goodaimshield1115 4 года назад

      And not all citizens supported the Austrian royal house. It was a civil war. When we say that this or that territory support x royal house, we are talking about the "official" inclination of its rulling elites, not about the actual population. And for the record, Catalonia first support was to the house of Borbon, till the president got killed and the supporters of the house of Austria took control. So it's not as easy, it was a civil war, which means that there will be people from the same status, social class, region, gender, age, on both sides. They also avoid explaining how the Bornon's policies opened the American market to Catalonia and that is one of the main reasons Catalonia is one of the wealthiest regions in Spain today.

  • @n3ppy632
    @n3ppy632 6 лет назад +88

    I love geography now, this channel is always fun and keeps me entertained and I hope it gets to 1 million subs soon

  • @TeenAtomsk
    @TeenAtomsk 6 лет назад

    Thanks for creating a video about what is happening here, Geography Now!

  • @Doire0710
    @Doire0710 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for all your info you make it super easy to understand! Glad you enjoyed Europe saying hello from Ireland!!

  • @anilatarannum
    @anilatarannum 6 лет назад +396

    Thank you for always keeping me updated!
    I have a question though - what's so wrong with a country with diverse cultures, languages, cuisines etc? I am Indian and most Indians can't even communicate that easily with each other because of language barriers. We have deep cultural contrasts. And issues do keep coming up but a multi-cultural society is not impossible, right?
    Unless the Catalonian people have been oppressed by the Spanish government over the years, I don't see the cause of conflict. Enlighten me, someone?

    • @HerzogTrollhausen
      @HerzogTrollhausen 6 лет назад +156

      Catalonia pays more taxes to the central government than they get back, because they are the richest region. Many Catalans now think they would be better off if they didn't have to pay any taxes to the central government, and in order to not look as if they were completely selfish, they say it's all because of "different culture", and because the fascist Franco regime suppressed them pretty brutally a few decades ago.

    • @joaopedropeixoto8558
      @joaopedropeixoto8558 6 лет назад +87

      Apparently, catalonians feel like they could be even richer as an independent nation because the spanish government takes a good part of the money earned there to invest in other places that actually need that investment. In other words, they thing it's not fair to give Spain so much money and not get a fair local investment in return. First world problems... right?

    • @eniombo
      @eniombo 6 лет назад +143

      You guys make it seem as if being rich and doing well is a good excuse for independence. By that logic anytime a region of a country is doing well economically should separate. The point of being a country is to help and that includes helping the poorer regions. My neighborhood is becoming richer than any other neighborhood around so I am going to become independent so the taxes just go straight to my neighborhood... that logic would be chaotic for any country. Look at Germany when they were separated, once they joined it was hard the first years but you look at them now and they are so powerful united.

    • @raghaviyer3097
      @raghaviyer3097 6 лет назад

      Danilo 5% was mentioned in the video :/ can i get the source of where you are getting this? Obviously for educational purposes

    • @Edumt91
      @Edumt91 6 лет назад +90

      For separatists the culture is only an excuse. The real problem is they don't want to pay for other poorer regions to get the services they get. They will always try and sell you the "oppression" of their culture, but there is literally nothing to back that up.

  • @denpadolt9242
    @denpadolt9242 6 лет назад +32

    A quick moment of silence for all the Zimbabweans that will have to wait, if the upload schedule remains consistent... 3 years to have their country counted.

    • @falathrim4322
      @falathrim4322 3 года назад +1

      and three more years will have to be waited...

  • @TimeBolt759
    @TimeBolt759 6 лет назад +38

    From what I've seen it think it's a disgrace to democracy on how both sides have reacted. Spain for all the reasons Barby mentioned and catalonia for seeking independence when less than 50% of the populous voted. Both sides need to sit down and just talk to each other before a civil war erupts.

    • @PrincessLockette
      @PrincessLockette 6 лет назад

      Timebolt Agreed.

    • @Alex-mv2dr
      @Alex-mv2dr 6 лет назад +2

      Timebolt most of the votations have less than 50% participation. Btw, somthing most people outside cant see ( and I understand) is that more than 50% participated but around 770k votes were taken by spanish police ( lots of footage in youtube if you want to check) so only 40 % could be counted.

    • @TimeBolt759
      @TimeBolt759 6 лет назад

      Alex I read about that actually so you are right about that. It's just that I feel that with the numbers that we do know about they can't make a decision like that. Something has to happen to allow catalonia to have at the very least more autonomy in my eyes.

    • @lokalcrow1470
      @lokalcrow1470 3 года назад +1

      Wow this is three years old but hey...
      So basically in almost every election in the last decades separatist parties have won by a big majority in Catalonia (this year's one got even better results), so we're not just going off of the referendum votes (where a big chunk of the population who were against it didn't vote because it wasn't Spain approved, you know the deal).
      And just as a side note believe me when I say Spain is very much not willing to talk about the independence any time soon. Of the main 5 political parties here, only one approves of a legal referendum be held (the left-wing one of course).
      I totally agree with you, but it's hard enough as it is to get Spain to sit, let alone talk or get to any kind of consensus.

  • @progunone4105
    @progunone4105 6 лет назад +1

    EXCELLENT INFORMATION! Thanks Brother

  • @revertrevertz5438
    @revertrevertz5438 6 лет назад +21

    You kind of forgot to mention a key point regarding EU membership. In order to enter the EU, there has to be a unanimous vote of approval. It is very likely that if Catalonia applies, Spain (and possibly other states) will not allow Catalonia's entrance into the EU. I also wonder how they will trade, since in order to have a treaty with Europe, they will have to do it with the whole EU, again Spain might just deny that isolating Catalonia form continental Western Europe

    • @bit0159
      @bit0159 6 лет назад +8

      Indeed, neither Spain nor France (which has catalan depatments) will never accept Catalonia as independent country. And other EU members which have secessionist movements in their country won't want this either. To accept Catalonia would mean they accept nationalistic tendencies and the divisibility of countries integrity. And a successful secession of Catalonia could mean that other regions of Spain want to secede as well.

    • @perrymanso6841
      @perrymanso6841 2 года назад +1

      Well in that case, Catalonia could negate to pay any Spanish debt towards EU, which would automatically put Spain in total bankruptcy

    • @rafafc4127
      @rafafc4127 Год назад +1

      ​@@perrymanso6841 that would isolate then even more, they would be saying the world "we don't pay our debts"

    • @perrymanso6841
      @perrymanso6841 Год назад

      @@rafafc4127 nah, It would say to the world "we don't pay illegitimate debts".

    • @rafafc4127
      @rafafc4127 Год назад

      @@perrymanso6841 and it is illegitimate because you want, right?

  • @jibeneyto91
    @jibeneyto91 6 лет назад +27

    Declaring independence per se doesn´t mean anything. A country is only a country if the other countries recognize it as such. We´re witnessing the responses from other powers such as the US and the rest of the EU pretty much ignoring Catalonia's unilateral declaration. Nonetheless, it sets a stage for future frustration and tension...
    Signed: A very sad Spaniard.

    • @Enleuk
      @Enleuk 6 лет назад +2

      The most powerful countries decide who else gets to have their own country. Representative democracy, where the elite holds the power, is not a good form of democracy.

  • @joecam6487
    @joecam6487 6 лет назад

    Thanks Barbs! You explain everything so well!

  • @morganortiz5001
    @morganortiz5001 6 лет назад

    Keep on doing this we love your work

  • @homopoly
    @homopoly 6 лет назад +14

    Episode on Sealand confirmed.

  • @melawanlupa1686
    @melawanlupa1686 6 лет назад +6

    I think it's not about Catalonia Independent, It's about Money and Politics...

    • @snowcold5932
      @snowcold5932 6 лет назад +4

      Melawan Lupa EXACTLY. Catalan independentists and government are just selfish and don't want to pay for their brother regions.

  • @liljack0234
    @liljack0234 6 лет назад

    Thanks for this!

  • @enter00louiez
    @enter00louiez 6 лет назад

    Great way to explain it Paul! THanks!

  • @newyorker9356
    @newyorker9356 6 лет назад +44

    Honestly, if Catalonia wants independence it should try to do it the legal way, this is not the way to gain independence and it will only make thins worse. Spain's constitution prohibits any kind of seceding referendum, so obviously if the Catalans try to do one, it would be considered illegal and therefore stopped by authorities. However the Spanish constitution allows something that few constitutions allow, which is to be changed. If the Catalans really want independence they should try to change the constitution the legal way, so that it would allow for a referendum. The problem is that most secessionists hate Spain and everything to do with it, they don't want to try to do it the legal way, they don't care how they get independence. For them the ends justify the means, and that's not a good thing...

    • @MBD12367
      @MBD12367 6 лет назад +14

      They've tried it many times. The Spanish government just wouldn't let them organize a legal referendum so they had no other choice. The Declaration of Independence of the US was illegal too btw

    • @newyorker9356
      @newyorker9356 6 лет назад +7

      Yes, the US declaration of independence was illegal, and it led to war... I'm just saying that if they really want to be independent they should do it the good way, and war is never good. Besides, they can't just declare unilaterally independence when they don't even know if a majority of Catalans want independence. There's clearly a lot of people that want independence and also a lot of people that don't. They tried to hold a referendum that failed (in the sense that the results cannot be taken seriously), and then declared independence. I just don't see how this is a good thing for Catalonia: basically no country in the world has supported this, thousands of companies are leaving Catalonia, its GDP is falling, there's tension and hate between its citizens etc. It's madness

    • @Enric.
      @Enric. 6 лет назад +8

      Catalonia has the 16% of the population (7,5 millions people)
      Catalonia elects 13% of deputies in the Congress (47 over 350)
      Catalonia elects the 7.5% of senators in the Senate (20 over 266)
      To change the Constitution you need a majority in the two chambers, and later the new Constitution must be voted by the majority of people in all Spain who obviously would vote against
      Catalans will always be a minority in Spain and the legal way you speak about is simply impossible
      the Constitution of Spain doesn't ban an independence referendum, it just bans an unauthorised referendum. So it can be done without changing the Constitution if it had the support of the Spanish Congress, government and king... but yes it's impossible too. This was was already asked and rejected, even when the Congress had the perfect situation to ask it (Podemos and PSOE could rule Spain together with the support of pro-independence parties if they accepted the referendum)
      Anything possible within the Spanish laws has already been tried and failed
      There is a much bigger and stronger hate from Spaniards to Catalans, than the opposite
      you could also say " the ends justify the means," to the Spanish government who is using any possible way to avoid the independence, such blocking websites, taking political prisoners, beating voters, spreading lies, increasing tension, radicalising people, doing such a huge a campaign against Catalonia and disrespecting its own laws

    • @tiorimas
      @tiorimas 5 лет назад +6

      Dude, if you want independence from Spain, go live abroad.

    • @Ciappi79
      @Ciappi79 4 года назад +3

      @@tiorimas That's exactly what they are trying to do: going living abroad Spain by separating :)

  • @alberto1234lr
    @alberto1234lr 6 лет назад +77

    Hi, I’m from Spain and I just wanna correct you a couple things and give you more info/context
    You said that ‘The president of Catalonia calls for a referendum and the Senate approves’ but no, the Spanish Senate did not approve it, the referendum law was passed on the Catalan regional Parlament, which was approved violating the Catalan ‘Estatut de Autonomia’ and the Spanish Constitution and therefore it’s unlawful
    - You also said that ‘The Spanish Government send the police to deliberately use force or violence against the people’ that’s completely not true, because it’s the Catalan Supreme Court that as a consequence of being the Referendum and its law ilegal, sends police to take the ballot boxes, but the Catalan nationalists were on the doors of the electoral schools impeding the police to fulfill a court order and as a consequence yes there was violence from and against the police, but it was not deliberately or sent by the government
    - Also the main problem is that Spanish constitution as many other countries like Italy or the US says that the country is unseparable or indivisible and if it was the case that
    Catalonia could be voted independent, it would be a matter voted by the Spanish people as a whole, since its to all of us and not a part only who belongs sovereignty
    - It would also be worth mentioning that in the non referendum of October 1st only 39% of Catalans voted to leave since only 2 out of the 5,5 million Catalans with the right to vote voted to leave, only a small number of people that wanted to remain voted (about 25,000) since the referendum was done by the nationalist, having against it half of the Catalan people and with multiple irregularities that you can google as there were people that voted more than once (a guy from Madrid voted 4 times xD)
    I love your videos and I know how hard and appreciate the effort to inform about such a complex matter in a short video, but simplifying and (unconsciously and unintentionally being manipulated by false facts) misinforming about this topic does not help
    I know this was a lot, and I don’t mean to offend you, the opposite to help you understand, but for most Spaniards this is a very serious topic, as one century later nationalist come back to Europe to draw borders, spread hate and discontent, without understanding the long history and politics of Catalan nationalism we are an easy target for demagoguery and selfish xenophobes willing to call democracy something that it’s not, since without law democracy becomes the tyranny of the mob.
    Peace ✌️

    • @TheJojolapatates
      @TheJojolapatates 6 лет назад +10

      I disagree with you on some points (notably the use of violence), yet, i'm sooooooo happy to read a constructive comment !!
      I'm a french catalan and i guess you know how hard it is to explain people that : no things are not that simple !!! No ! Catalan are not a population of all wealthy bourgeois eating white bread on the shoulders of all poor spaniards ! No ! Catalans are not the hopeless victims of Rajoy, the resurrected Franco ! That the majority of people is not supporting the independance....
      Thank you for your comment sir !
      Peace

    • @santiveronis4437
      @santiveronis4437 6 лет назад +3

      Alberto Lopez Rolo bien dicho

    • @slavhardbass8519
      @slavhardbass8519 6 лет назад

      +TheJojolapatates Tu es français ?

    • @TheJojolapatates
      @TheJojolapatates 6 лет назад

      +Argentino Loco Yep.

    • @neptuneconsus4992
      @neptuneconsus4992 6 лет назад

      TheJojolapatates do You speak catalan? Would You like to be part of a catalan country?

  • @63striker
    @63striker 4 года назад

    awesome description, thank you

  • @Chinookdog
    @Chinookdog 6 лет назад +1

    I’ve studied abroad in Madrid and am now taking a Catalan class so it’s definitely interesting seeing both sides of how Catalonia is viewed

  • @republikadugave420
    @republikadugave420 6 лет назад +61

    I come from 2030 to tell you all that the zimbabwe episode was amazing ... Effects were epic.. Those robot co hosts were funny as hell... I wet my granpa pants..

    • @agent2383
      @agent2383 6 лет назад +1

      Can u describe what u saw in more detail please about the Zimbabwe episode

    • @varana
      @varana 6 лет назад +3

      I assume Mugabe will still be alive.

    • @fasalsrrr
      @fasalsrrr 6 лет назад

      Lolll

    • @moriadine2517
      @moriadine2517 6 лет назад

      varana312 And oily.

  • @georgezee5173
    @georgezee5173 6 лет назад +72

    Funny that you put the Castells as their own tradition, since it's actually a Valencian tradition exported to the south of Catalonia (Tarragona area). And about the cuisine... Well, as any other region of Spain, they have a couple of dishes that are traditionally theirs, but that's about it, as it happens in every single country of the world having variety throughout its territory.

    • @_naianima_
      @_naianima_ 4 года назад

      _CASTELLERS_
      >:(

    • @legaljusto5946
      @legaljusto5946 2 года назад +1

      Sorry thats just not true. Im from Valencia, cousins of the catalans, and Catalonia and the basque country have so many unique characteristics, although it is true being part of Spain for so long their culture has become more "spanish like" overtime. It is called cultural assimilation.

    • @cristinamartinezjaumejoan1467
      @cristinamartinezjaumejoan1467 2 года назад +1

      "Els castells" were born in Valls (Catalonia). Whatever they were doing in Valencia, could be similar, but it is not Castells.

  • @user-ew2rn2pk1o
    @user-ew2rn2pk1o 6 лет назад

    Thanks for this video

  • @zyxwut321
    @zyxwut321 6 лет назад

    Good explanation. Thanks, Barbs.

  • @leendt
    @leendt 6 лет назад +389

    If the reason was up with Indians now then India would be divided into 31 countries

    • @guilhermehazam9688
      @guilhermehazam9688 6 лет назад +43

      Leen DT it would probably be better for all tho, less centralized power is always better

    • @federichzoller
      @federichzoller 6 лет назад +25

      In India the Hindi belt though being a drain on the south has never really tried imposing their languages and cultures.
      This has save India. Nehru though initially sceptical after a partition did the right thing. Right now though an economic arguement holds ,majority south Indian feels a visceral connection to the Gangetic plains and its Holy lands.
      But bjp trying to create a bogey of national security with regards to a threat to national integrity is undermining the cause for India.
      The beef issue has alienated so many malayalis that it's sad.

    • @Sanatani_kattar
      @Sanatani_kattar 6 лет назад +12

      Leen DT we are happy with India..

    • @rainbowpaillettes8404
      @rainbowpaillettes8404 6 лет назад +3

      Leen DT actually it would dived even further Pondicherry and daman and diu wanted to be a seprate countries in 2012 but the uprising's media coverage was censored.

    • @TheSinnical
      @TheSinnical 6 лет назад +1

      typical pointless commie bs..

  • @akim953
    @akim953 4 года назад +7

    I've been waiting for the episode of Spain coming up soon :)

    • @gerryxavier8833
      @gerryxavier8833 3 года назад +1

      Somalia isn't even up yet.

    • @adamender9092
      @adamender9092 3 года назад +1

      It's finally up

    • @akim953
      @akim953 3 года назад

      @@adamender9092 thx for announcing me!

  • @MohsinKhan-cx6ru
    @MohsinKhan-cx6ru 6 лет назад

    Very informative video.Thanks

  • @Josue-qb7cq
    @Josue-qb7cq 6 лет назад +1

    Good job for such a short video, as a half Aragonese/Texan myself... having grown up in Aragon and having many Catalan speaking friends... good job, you have your work cut out for you for the Spain video, I hope I can help you out with it Barb.

  • @tomithy-6253
    @tomithy-6253 6 лет назад +7

    Love how non-spaniards are suddenly the experts of Catalonia, the point is that whilst Madrid has been very heavy handed in this; their referendum was still illegal in a constitution they pushed forward. Not to mention the fact the referendum had only 38% turnout. So tl;dr Catalonia is off its nut

  • @CaesarAugustus.
    @CaesarAugustus. 6 лет назад +31

    It wasn't just Rajoy, the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional as it blatantly defied Articles 2 and 92.
    Catalonian politicians didn't care and went ahead with the referendum anyway.

    • @martacaga
      @martacaga 4 года назад

      of course they did, this country is a democracy, which means that the people decide what they want the goverment to do, not listening to what the people say is antidemocratic

    • @andresduques2013
      @andresduques2013 3 года назад

      @@martacaga there's a constitution and some procedures that they have to respect, it's not up to the people

  • @smithy_1158
    @smithy_1158 6 лет назад

    Thank you for explaining cause I had no idea how to understand all of what was happening. Clear and understandable. Thank you.

  • @danielhaller9379
    @danielhaller9379 6 лет назад

    Really, really well done!

  • @dantoxism8538
    @dantoxism8538 6 лет назад +125

    Question is: *What is down in Catalonia?*

  • @thejking
    @thejking 6 лет назад +67

    One day I'll will hold a referendum to declare my house and garden independent I already know it will be a 100% in favor since I live alone. I have a vastly different culture then other ppl around me so it's legit.

    • @martacaga
      @martacaga 4 года назад +1

      us catalans have the right to autodetermination, if youre not catalan you should shut up

    • @Didagg
      @Didagg 4 года назад

      Actually first you should declare yourself a municipality and then a province and then an autonomous region and then a contry

    • @oscarmartinezaustin9164
      @oscarmartinezaustin9164 4 года назад

      @@martacaga so just because youre from there you should decide over a territory that is spanish?

    • @nobrang5146
      @nobrang5146 4 года назад +4

      @@martacaga you can't even take a joke. No wonder you fell out of relevance

    • @martacaga
      @martacaga 4 года назад

      Óscar Martínez austin it’s not spanish if the people don’t want it to be. el poble mana, el govern obeeix!

  • @F3tcher
    @F3tcher 6 лет назад

    Very professionally done

  • @je.thecougarlover
    @je.thecougarlover 6 лет назад

    Great video

  • @Lateatnightpioneers
    @Lateatnightpioneers 3 года назад +20

    Could someone tell me exactly which section of freedom does the rest of Spain restrict to Catalonia? What right is that one, that is being denied? Which action of their life is forbidden by the police? Are the given privileges at the expense of the other regions, due to nationalist blackmail, not enough spoil?
    Two considerations:
    1. Only half of the population voted for secessionist parties, from which not all would agree with a truly eventual secession. Stop generalizing so simply.
    2. Its not a Catalonia vs Spain thing, dont confuse terms. Catalonia is essentially Spain, its a part of the whole. If you removed cooper from bronze, it wouldnt be called bronze anymore. You cant just refer to them as separated entities. Stop confronting terms and the people behind those terms.
    Considering this, my question is: is the so called "freedom" revindicated in this video suggesting that a 40% of the catalans has the right to steal a piece of Spain to the rest of catalans and to the rest of spanish? Is this suggesting the dictature of the minority above the mayority?

    • @gonzalo4295
      @gonzalo4295 3 года назад +3

      👏

    • @perrymanso6841
      @perrymanso6841 2 года назад

      About your considerations.
      1. You're giving for granted that the rest who didn't vote for pro-independence parties are pro status quo. In the 2015 Autonomic referendum, the unionist parties just took the 38% of the votes, using your same logic, the 62% voted pro independence?
      2. Catalonia is part of Spain, and you use an alloy comparison, well, I could compare It to a company and therefore, Catalonia cannot be forced to remain as an associate.
      Also, you call about stealing a piece of Spain? Catalonia doesn't belong at all to people who doesn't even live in It, the rest of Spaniards should have a vote in a unification referendum, of course, but never on an independence one.

  • @pabuthedumbnerd
    @pabuthedumbnerd 6 лет назад +265

    So... are they gonna play in the World Cup?

    • @theokchannel2081
      @theokchannel2081 6 лет назад +10

      Pabu's Animations or la liga

    • @sirrhynus4280
      @sirrhynus4280 6 лет назад +36

      Would we still have El Classico?

    • @conorsheehan5957
      @conorsheehan5957 6 лет назад +20

      Rien B. No more El Classico. Just Real v Atletico

    • @gametimewithjamie
      @gametimewithjamie 6 лет назад +2

      not this one its too late they were still (and kinda still are) part of spain so they missed the world cup qualifiers if they can be independent before 2020 they will be able to play in the qualifiers for the world 2022 and the catalonia soccer players wont be able to play for them as they have played for spain some players like Gerard Piqué,Busquets ,Fàbregas and so on wont be able to play for them only spain

    • @rabasi8330
      @rabasi8330 6 лет назад +4

      It'll prob be like AS Monaco playing in Ligue 1, Swansea City in the Premier league or Toronto FC, Vancouver Whitecaps FC and Montreal Impact in the MLS.

  • @Roel93
    @Roel93 6 лет назад

    I love you for staying objective on this matter, Barby!

    • @Rodrigo-zj7jj
      @Rodrigo-zj7jj 3 года назад +1

      He is an absolute ignorant, and his ignorance made him say fake information that half a million people watched...That's not being very objective

  • @robertvalcin
    @robertvalcin 6 лет назад

    Great job

  • @snowcold5932
    @snowcold5932 6 лет назад +56

    Little details:
    -You kept using the estrellada, the flag independentist catalans use. The actual flag of Catalonia doesn't have the triangle and star, they added it on the model of Cuba's flag to represent a rebellion against spain.
    -Carles* Puigdemont, not Charles

    • @NejisMate
      @NejisMate 6 лет назад +15

      He knows it's the independent flag, that's why he's using it. We're talking about Catalan independence, not Catalonia in general.

    • @Enric.
      @Enric. 6 лет назад +7

      It's called estelada, no estrellada

  • @macflay1981
    @macflay1981 6 лет назад +55

    Every region in Spain has is own culture, and there are several languages across the country. And every region is an autonomous region.

    • @perrymanso6841
      @perrymanso6841 2 года назад +5

      SO WHAT? xDD This mantra that spaniards repeat like parrots give you zero valid points on "why not" Catalonia should secede...

    • @lucacardoza2533
      @lucacardoza2533 Год назад

      @@perrymanso6841 Every region in Spain has is own culture, and there are several languages across the country.
      And every region is an autonomous region.

    • @perrymanso6841
      @perrymanso6841 Год назад +1

      @@lucacardoza2533
      1st- The majority of Autonomous Regions have NOT an own language.
      2nd- There's territories with major differences with other territories in terms of history, legacy and invasions, so that's another difference.
      3rd- Try to name a country in which It's territories have bigger differences between them...

    • @lucacardoza2533
      @lucacardoza2533 Год назад

      @@perrymanso6841 relax mate, i was only teasing you by answering with the same exact comment as the comment you replied to. where are you from by the way (for credibility)?

    • @perrymanso6841
      @perrymanso6841 Год назад

      @@lucacardoza2533 What has where I'm from to do with the credibility of my words? There's was some data I put out wrong?

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 6 лет назад

    Thanks. Am linking this to my Facebook to help inform those of my generation who are in this, as in many things modern, clueless.

  • @ramonluque1850
    @ramonluque1850 6 лет назад

    Nice vid!

  • @joseignacioalonso9454
    @joseignacioalonso9454 6 лет назад +42

    I'm a Spaniard and I find myself kind of undecided about this issue. Although I know this is a very complex topic, some of the information you gave was incomplete or wrong. It is really difficult to get an objective point of view here since the media is very polarized, but this is what I got:
    1.- the referendum didn't have all the "items" to be legitimate or legal because it is against the Spanish Constitution since the power is behold by they whole Spanish population and not just a region. Besides, it has been proven that many people vote several times and still all the votes where around forty something percent, which isn't representative for such a decision. And the vote in the Catalan parliament didn't have enough support to approve independence but still they did.
    2.- the Spanish government reacted late and excessively. This problem comes from before and they should have listened to the demands of, not only Catalonia, but many other regions about the economic distribution. I don't know how it works, but if many regions are asking to rethink it, they should at least sit down and talk, all of them.
    3.- Catalonia was a part of the Kingdom of Aragon, governed by several dukes. Now, what it was the kingdom of Aragon is divided in 4 regions more or less, in which 3 of them Catalan is Spoken and they share a similar culture, so it is not so unique, but still different just like any other region of Spain since we are a union of kingdoms.
    4.- I don't understand nationalism in any side, since I believe we should cooperate and work together to become stronger in this globalized world as Europeans.
    5.- at the same time, I get that if so many people (close to 50% but polls say it's not, but idk anymore) want to change something, we should talk about it and find an agreed solution. Although I don't think breaking up is the solution, there should be a middle ground where we could find a solution that satisfies both sides.
    I know it is so complex and depends on the perspective of the beholder, and yes, I can be wrong. Probably I am.

    • @JTZFX
      @JTZFX 6 лет назад +4

      Given that their independence will probably ruin Iberia, it's probably best that they stay within Spain. The economic crisis is only just fading, and them leaving will hurt everyone; Spain, Them, Europe...
      Only about 40% voted that day. It's true that maybe another referendum now, after what has happened might give a majority of independence seekers, but the fact of the matter is that it's not sustainable for anyone. As you rightly mentioned, United Europe is the end goal here, not another Middle Ages reminiscent collection of hundreds of underdeveloped, weak European states. The way forward is together. I'm sure they have their issues, but we're a democracy, and we solve things together, by discussing them, not by declaring independence and plugging your ears.
      In conclusion bud, it is complex, but dont let that turn you away. It's the future of our country at stake. So pick the side that you think will best benefit Europe and Spain as a whole.

    • @yoelmio741
      @yoelmio741 5 лет назад

      @@JTZFX As a Spaniard I would love the EU being a country. It would help a lot in the economic aspect.

  • @lvtn23
    @lvtn23 6 лет назад +88

    The war of Succesion wasn't over Catalonia's independance but over the Spain's next king, please, do more research before saying stuff like that.
    Greetings from Valencia, a Spanish bordering region of Catalonia.

    • @PrincessLockette
      @PrincessLockette 6 лет назад +1

      Tony Studios Question, how do you Valencians view this whole situation?

    • @ttg001
      @ttg001 6 лет назад +11

      Sarina Alexa It's very difficult. If you had asked this in 1934, the previous Catalan independence declaration, most would have agreed. But right now, there many Spanish nationalists here. So most are against it.
      Something is clear, the project of "National Spain" is not coherent with culture and history. We should rebuild Spain as a plurinational state with real self-government, kind of like what Bolivia is trying, yet not succeding.

    • @MortanAMrk
      @MortanAMrk 6 лет назад

      Tony Studios seems like valencia cf are beginning to become a better team again

    • @casrvsfv3172
      @casrvsfv3172 6 лет назад +5

      Dimas Terol it is perfectly coherent with history, I agree with federalising Spain but giving historical legitimacy to lies is not something I agree with.
      Catalonia was Roman in Hispania, part of Visigothic Spania, ALL THE SAME AS THE REST OF SPAIN FOR A MILLENNIUM and then a cultural region formed by separate counties in resistance against the Moors, all under the influence of the County of Barcelona and all vassals of the Franks. Then all Catalan counties joined Aragon after a century of being a vassal independent confederation of counties, turning into a region of Aragon. When Aragon joined with Castile to form Spain, Catalonia joined as a region of Aragon. It revolted in the 17th century after Phillip IV tried to create the _unión de armas_ (union of weapons) a union of military forces so all regions contributed the same to the Spanish army, Catalonia wanted to keep contributing less, so it revolted. In the War of Succession Catalonia mostly supported the Habsburg family, but the Bourbons won and Catalonia had all its privileges and regional institutions abolished as the Bourbons imported the French system, where all the French were the same in privileges and administered from the capital. After that Catalonia defended the Spanish identity and border against Napoleon and participated in the Spanish constitution of 1812. Then came the civil wars like the Carlists with Barcelona supporting Isabella II and Gerona supporting Charles... Catalan political separatism appeared at the end of the 19th century with the Romantic movement like German nationalism or Italian nationalism. The Catalan language was brought back from oblivion and Catalan symbolism too. Then came Franco in which Catalonia fought on the republican side mostly and then democracy.
      Naples was a nation until 150 years ago, Venice, Bayern, Prussia, Lombardy... ALL of them were nations during centuries more than Catalonia until recently. Provence, Venice, Naples, Genoa, Alsace, Brittany... ALL of them have regional languages. *What makes Catalonia a nation? When it was a vassal confederation at best some millennium ago during a century and has been linked to the rest of Spain every other moment in its history?*

    • @casrvsfv3172
      @casrvsfv3172 6 лет назад +3

      Dimas Terol saying Catalonia is a nation because of culture or history is *absolutely untrue!* If Catalonia is a nation, what is Naples? Genoa? Venice? Bayern? Prussia? Alsace? Brittany? Normandy? Texas? California? Florida? Provence?... *If Spain is not a nation NO MODERN NATION IS A NATION!*

  • @VishalSingh-ln4mi
    @VishalSingh-ln4mi 6 лет назад

    You're awesome barb

  • @senthilveeran1723
    @senthilveeran1723 6 лет назад

    good information.

  • @santiagotraveraznar2266
    @santiagotraveraznar2266 6 лет назад +26

    I love your videos and I know you try to make them as understandable as possible (which you actually manage to do really well), but I believe that this one lacks some historical context and some more information and facts to undertand what the issue really looks like:
    -First, in 1707, it WASN'T a secession war or a war for independence, it was a SUCCESSION that apart from involving most of Western Europe it also created a "civil" war inside of Spain between the Crowns of Castille and Navarra (supporters of the bourbon pretender), and the Crown of Aragon, in which Catalonia was a part of it.( supporter of the Austrian pretender to the throne).
    -The current government of Catalonia doesn't actually have a majority of the popular vote, in fact they don't even get to 50% of the voters, they just have more seats in parliament because of the electoral system, where some regions inside Catalonia have the same number of seats regardless of their low population as Barcelona, for example.
    -The people of Catalonia aren't opressed at all, and enjoy the benefits of the full democracy that Spain really is; regardless of what the secessionists call the central government. You just have to come and visit Barcelona to see it :)
    Just wanted to add that, because the picture is really much more complex, and I believe that you make it seem like everyone in Catalonia agrees with independence and the methods that the regional government is using to get it.

    • @snowcold5932
      @snowcold5932 6 лет назад +2

      santi traver Thank you

    • @oliverraven
      @oliverraven 6 лет назад +2

      All good points, but the reason the separatists have a majority of seats without a majority of the popular vote is not that all provinces have equal representation in the Catalan Parliament (they don't). It is partly because Lleida, Tarragona and Girona are deliberately given slight over-representation, but also because of how the d'Hondt method of proportional representation - not to mention the 3% threshold within Barcelona province itself - favours the larger parties over the smaller ones.

  • @alaymn7870
    @alaymn7870 6 лет назад +46

    You know, living in an era of globalization, it's depressing to see regions wanting independence everywhere

    • @Neilos-sd6ti
      @Neilos-sd6ti 4 года назад +2

      Globalozation will never unite everyone people still keep the identity and culture even if influenced by others and even the caralonian independent movement isn't only about culture its also about history and economy, since the 18th and the events after its only natural such a thing happened.

    • @carlitoselcremita7816
      @carlitoselcremita7816 4 года назад

      Quinto Licinio Cato well,separatist movements in spain are the closest thing to globalization.Bc they literally want to import ppl inside and other cultures.

    • @alaymn7870
      @alaymn7870 3 года назад

      @Swamp Thing I am curious why you think globalization would be bad for humankind

    • @zedave7817
      @zedave7817 3 года назад

      @Swamp Thing I see where you're coming from. I guess from a cultural standpoint it's the price we pay for a more economically globalized world.

  • @levonclark9604
    @levonclark9604 6 лет назад

    FILLER WEEK IS BACK YAY!!!

  • @NostalgiaChubby
    @NostalgiaChubby 6 лет назад

    thanks!

  • @PrincessLockette
    @PrincessLockette 6 лет назад +85

    I really don't know how I feel about any of this, but I hope another civil war doesn't happen and I also hope no one gets killed. Good luck Spain and Peace 🇪🇸❤

    • @MeinUnterkampf
      @MeinUnterkampf 5 лет назад

      If civil war comes, it will be over in a few months

    • @_naianima_
      @_naianima_ 4 года назад +5

      If that happens, I will go to another country >:(

    • @carlescpi7536
      @carlescpi7536 4 года назад

      Noooo

    • @carlescpi7536
      @carlescpi7536 4 года назад +3

      Espanya roba

    • @_naianima_
      @_naianima_ 4 года назад +5

      @@carlescpi7536 Catalan?

  • @marinnah656
    @marinnah656 6 лет назад +184

    okey i'm spaniard and i'm gonna try my best to give you some facts that are objetive and not very spoken in the media:
    You know what? there are really good comments in this section, read them and ignore mine if you want
    The independentists have been around (with representation in the government of the region i mean) since democracy was established back in the 70s, they were given like a special "taxes plan" to pay less, but with the crisis of 2008 where a new goverment was voted they removed that. Also a lot(soooo much) of corruption cases appeared, everywhere, in the central goverment and in catalonia's goverment too (they even created a new party to you can say "cover up", thats difficult to explain, look for "3% cases" if you want to know more). As Barby said, Catalonia has a great debt with the central administration and the health system is a chaos, but instead of fixing the system, fighting against corruption and solve real people problems, they are using all of this like a smoke screen, to keep hope and people attention away and mantain the power. Every region of Spain has his own culture and for me that's what makes this county unique and beautiful, we are sick of corrupted goverments and i wish this situation serve as a way to change people's mind and start focusing in what is important

    • @azzyfreeman
      @azzyfreeman 6 лет назад +18

      This is the most sensible comment

    • @elisolerarrufat2601
      @elisolerarrufat2601 6 лет назад +5

      I'm catalan and that's true. But I also have to say that spain has also debt with catalonia.

    • @alexander4543
      @alexander4543 6 лет назад +18

      eleco elecos No it doesnt, a central goverment cant owe money to a regional administration, that doesn’t make any sense

    • @arnau9638
      @arnau9638 5 лет назад +2

      haha i see that in your "facts" and speech you can see clearly which is your subjective opinion about the matter

    • @catalunyallibertat7
      @catalunyallibertat7 5 лет назад +1

      Amics, no perdeu el temps responent a Ignasi Planas. He is too far gone...

  • @shastabellcalligraphy1779
    @shastabellcalligraphy1779 6 лет назад

    Great job! You handled a controversial topic really well!

  • @MiguelAngelYanezDiaz
    @MiguelAngelYanezDiaz 5 лет назад +2

    Hey! Love your channel btw. Also there's a lot of stuff you either kind of missed or got wrong, though. I live in the Valencian country and am always studying and reading up on these topics of Spanish national identities within the Spanish state. If you'd ever like, for the autonomous and disputed regions episodes per se, I'd love to chat up with you! HUGE fan, btw :)

    • @degstoll
      @degstoll 2 года назад

      Wait... You said Valencian country?

  • @patricioborras3544
    @patricioborras3544 4 года назад +13

    Little mistake!
    Never was a war between Spain and Catalonia. In those times the Kingdom was Aragon or Valencia in front of Castilla. even in that time Catalonia wasn't a nation.....just a Condal.
    Anyway not your fault, there are a lot of fakes and bad intentions

    • @patricioborras3544
      @patricioborras3544 3 года назад +1

      Swamp Thing it’s a pity! I gave real data, and you started crying. Take in to account you must study Portugal history and France, just to understand what happened internally in Spain. And why Catalonia don’t complain against France. Or Olivenza conflict... and you finish a point whit LOL... and I speak catalán lenguaje as well Valenciano, the father lenguaje. Don’t make simple that is not.

    • @patricioborras3544
      @patricioborras3544 3 года назад +1

      Swamp Thing you don’t need to insult me. Rather answer or read my statement: never was a war between Spain and Catalonia. And in that moment Valencia was a Kingdom, and Catalonia had only the level of a condal. That my statement.

  • @genghiskhan9962
    @genghiskhan9962 3 года назад +4

    Llarga vida a Catalunya (i Espanya també)

  • @nereasaiz5143
    @nereasaiz5143 6 лет назад

    Yes ! Basque country next please !

  • @chito2294
    @chito2294 6 лет назад

    yeah there's no doubt you should do an episode on the basque region. and it should be a long one at that.

  • @leolarav
    @leolarav 6 лет назад +3

    There are several inaccuracies in this video, can I contact by e-mail or something?

  • @andervillacian8909
    @andervillacian8909 6 лет назад +127

    I'm from the Basque Country and this topic it's a little bit complicated, because nowadays there's a lot of tenssion in Spain and you can't trust only one media. Because either catalonian and spanish medias aren't objective and none of them say all the truth. By one side, the referendum had not all the necesary legal guarantees and in the other side, Spain doesn't want to dialogue. In the european aspect, there're a lot of regions which are culturally very differents of their country. Personally, I don't know what is better, but I hope one day the spanish government allows the dialogue and the autodetermination, for regions such as mine, Basque Country, a linguistically, culturally and historically separated region.

    • @sudocreme5080
      @sudocreme5080 6 лет назад +10

      Ander Villacian of topic, but I hope the Basque gets the right to self determination.

    • @PrincessLockette
      @PrincessLockette 6 лет назад +4

      Ander Villacian Wait a minute, You Basque people don't have self-determination yet?

    • @sudocreme5080
      @sudocreme5080 6 лет назад +7

      Sarina Alexa to my knowledge, no. Article 155 of the Spanish constitution forbids any part of Spain to secede, so that means that even if the majority support leaving Spain, it is not legal under Spanish law. That’s why the Basque group ETA was fighting a guerrilla war, because Spain wouldn’t allow the Basque Country to become independent.

    • @luisbreva6122
      @luisbreva6122 6 лет назад +2

      Ander Villacian The spanish government gave the option to talk to the independentists several times. The nationalists are the ones who dont want to talk.

    • @NejisMate
      @NejisMate 6 лет назад +4

      Luis Breva, the spanish government has never properly given the opportunity to talk about independence. Rajoy doesn't want Catalan independence at all costs.

  • @Housewarmin
    @Housewarmin 6 лет назад +1

    Wait after Zimbabwe? I need a video in THIS lifetime!

  • @joniksj9237
    @joniksj9237 6 лет назад

    thanks for doing the gn catalonia episode

  • @juanalvarezdetoledo3848
    @juanalvarezdetoledo3848 6 лет назад +54

    I'm from Barcelona and I have been carefully following this political confrontation for years, which only recently appears to be reaching levels never seen before. Democracy is a beautiful word, and separatists constantly use that word to justify their actions. However, what this video fails to address is that all the political milestones that the Catalan regional government have been achieving are ANYTHING but democratic. To put it into perspective, in the Catalan parlament, separatists represent 47% (official numbers) of the population while non separatists represent 53%. However, they have a narrow majority of seats which has allowed them to carry through their so called "proces" (process for independence). They approved both the law for the referendum and the law for disconnection without allowing the opposition congressmen make amendments (BASIC right never violated before in that parliaments history) and both laws went against both the Spanish constitution and the estatut (essentially the Catalan constitution). The laws were passed with SIMPLE MAJORITY (any referendum around the world demands QUALIFIED majority, but they knew they didn't have the seats for that), and the laws did not state any minimum participation for the voting, because they knew non separatists would NOT vote as a form of protest. Overall, its a political movement based on imposing one sides believes and ideology through a regional government that has no interest or affection for the other half of the population that does not share their views. As a regional government they can legally and legitimately strive for independence by collecting the necessary support in madrid to ammend the national constitution, thus legalizing a regional referendum. People that don't live in Catalonia have no idea what its like to not be represented or defended by your regional government, SEPARATISTS are NOT the victims here people. Thats all I wanted to say, hope it gives you guys more insights on the situation, have a good one!

    • @rao803
      @rao803 6 лет назад +2

      Go back to Castille and leave Catalans alone

    • @juanalvarezdetoledo3848
      @juanalvarezdetoledo3848 6 лет назад +13

      YOU leave the Catalans alone. A minority of separtists aren't idelogically superior to the rest of Catalonia. You people don't even represent 50% of the population, so you have no business in manipulating democratic institutions such as the Parlament for your own selfish, supremacist, nationalistic agenda. P.S. If your're not happy go find an island somewhere in the Atlantic and colonise it.

    • @rao803
      @rao803 6 лет назад

      You obviusly know nothing about Catalonia. These Catalans you mean are Castillians like you, they are not Catalans, they are immigrants that don't want to integrate in Catalan culture. We Catalans want independence. And yes, we are more people than them.

    • @juanalvarezdetoledo3848
      @juanalvarezdetoledo3848 6 лет назад +15

      Why are you more Catalan than them? They were also born there, speak the language, and share a common culture. Thats a border line neo-nazi mentality. You think you are a superior race, that's pretty sad. Let me remind you of something: Legally speaking, we are all the same and have the same status, so there is no way a minority, let me repeat that- A MINORITY- is going to impose there convictions and ill concieved notions of a false state on the rest of the population.
      If you are not happy with your Catalan neighboors, leave. Bye bye.

    • @rao803
      @rao803 6 лет назад +1

      I think you should check your reading comprehension. It's not that I am more Catalan than them, it's that I'm ethnically Catalan, while the 95% of them are ethnically castilians like you. They don't have Catalan as their main language, they came here during the Francoism, they are colons. I'm sorry, but it's how it is. It is not a coincidence that the independentists are majority in Rural areas where Catalan is the majority language, while the more castillian is the main language in a city/town the more pro spanish people are in there. Look at Hospitalet, Cornellà, Santa Coloma, etc.
      Then, I never said that I'm superior, maybe you have a inferior complex and you look at us as superiors, I don't know. I just said the truth, in Catalonia there's catalans ethnicals and castilians. And we are not a majority, look at the Parlament, we have always won the elections, and in the last ones, pro constitution parties only had the 39% of the votes... Do you really think they are majority? Then why don't they win the eleccions?

  • @ChefRafi
    @ChefRafi 6 лет назад +327

    What countries will accept their embassies? Let’s see. 🤔 who is Catalan here?

    • @rubenzito19
      @rubenzito19 6 лет назад +51

      Chef Rafi's Awesome World I am a Catalan :)

    • @ChefRafi
      @ChefRafi 6 лет назад +4

      Rubén I Miss Barcelona. We can’t get horchata here!!

    • @Enric.
      @Enric. 6 лет назад +34

      I'm a Catalan. The situation is very complicated because the Spanish government has a much bigger power than the Catalan one

    • @danielferreira4005
      @danielferreira4005 6 лет назад +12

      I know you are pretty freaking happy with this, so would I be, but do you think everything will go as smooth as you want? And how long do you think it will take to be considered a country by the UN?
      Not judging just want to know the opinion of the people living it. ahah

    • @dabreucosta
      @dabreucosta 6 лет назад +16

      I’m spanish

  • @lad.rushank25
    @lad.rushank25 4 года назад +1

    Man it would be so hard for you if you try to make a video on Kashmir !!!

  • @agomezh387
    @agomezh387 6 лет назад

    Nice!

  • @ThvictormanixhT
    @ThvictormanixhT 6 лет назад +120

    You didn't mention that a lot of companies are leaving the region and specially the big ones and hence their "economic might" will stay in Spain.

    • @ernestfabrega9378
      @ernestfabrega9378 6 лет назад +8

      The ceos leave, the actual factories and workers and the services to this workers can't really go anywhere.
      I mean if you want to sell to the world its a good idea to produce near a harbour, Madrid is as far of harbours as it gets. Just my opinion thou no real data to back it up.

    • @georgezee5173
      @georgezee5173 6 лет назад +29

      You have a pretty big harbour in Valencia, and more Spanish harbours facing the Atlantic sea. Don't get it wrong: Barcelona was heavily favoured by Franco because of its location, close to France (and therefore, closer to the rest of Europe), creating among other things the SEAT cars factory and forcing people from poorer areas of Spain to migrate to Barcelona and its sorroundings as an inexpensive workforce (Extremadura lost almost a third of its total popuplation during the 60s because of that). The thing is now Catalonia is under different economy rules based on being in the EU, and an independence would mean stop being a part of the EU. If that ever happens Volkswagen (current owners of SEAT) would not hesitate for a single second to shut their plant in Martorell down and make their cars in different factories throughout Europe (which includes Spain and its factory in Navarra). The mere loss of Volkswagen in Catalonia would mean losing around the 7% of its GDP. Only by losing Volkswagen (which would definitely happen). Just think about the rest of big European companies that operate in Catalonia and want to stay under the umbrella of the EU... It would be a total disaster for Catalonia's economy.

    • @ChristopherSobieniak
      @ChristopherSobieniak 6 лет назад +1

      Spain certainly has the upper hand there.

    • @laragedupeuple6897
      @laragedupeuple6897 6 лет назад +3

      you didn't mention that spanish government was forcing em to leave catalonia (for example, seat said they were being told to leave)

    • @alexander4543
      @alexander4543 6 лет назад

      La Rage du Peuple Right, the 1000 companies that left Catalonia among them their most important banks were all "just told to leave"...

  • @deaconodon1681
    @deaconodon1681 6 лет назад +13

    Loved the video! But just thought I should point out that I think you’ve made a historical mistake, you seem to suggest that at the marriage of Petronilla of Aragon to Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Barcelona occurred when Catalonia was already a part of Aragon and this union made it a realm of the Spanish crown when in fact this union meant the county of Barcelona became part of a personal union with Aragon and it was not until the marriage of Ferdinand II of Aragon to Isabella I of Castile in 1469 that Barcelona’s rulers became the same as those of Spain (and it began its journey to becoming a part of Spain)

    • @aftp6646
      @aftp6646 3 года назад +1

      Indeed. Catalonia was never part of the region of Aragon. Catalonia was part of the Crown of Aragon. A confederation. Catalonia was an independent entity. It was only really absorbed by the central state after Catalonia backed the wrong candidate in the War of Succession. The Suppression after that loss was massive.

  • @kirstene013
    @kirstene013 Год назад

    A question I ponder daily

  • @razgrizraven
    @razgrizraven 6 лет назад

    So, at least we know when he's gonna do a Sealand video.

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday 5 лет назад +5

    This is the kind of stuff that I find super fascinating. I had never even heard about this. I doubt Spain would want to lose Barcelona economically.

    • @Ciappi79
      @Ciappi79 4 года назад +4

      This is exactly what's happening. They are forcing them to remain despite Catalans never wanted to be part of Spain. But because it's economically relevant Spain is using the force and violating civil rights to avoid them leaving.

    • @GeoTren28
      @GeoTren28 4 года назад +8

      @@Ciappi79 what have you read lmao, the Catalans gave full consent to be part of the Kingdom of Spain, there's no civil right violation.

    • @Ciappi79
      @Ciappi79 4 года назад +3

      @@GeoTren28 No sorry that's not true. They were conquered, never expressed the willing to join Spain. Anyway that's not the point what happened centuries ago as self-determination is about what people wants now. Also colons in former America swore to their kingdom England before traveling to the New World, but they turned to a declaration of indipendence anyway later. Do you believe USA shouldn't be independent and go back to England?

    • @GeoTren28
      @GeoTren28 4 года назад +2

      @@Ciappi79 İ wish America didn't exist, that's a different topic though. America gained independence from the Constitution by creating a war and being backed up by the French, Spanish and Portuguese. Canada, Australia, Ireland, etc. gained independence because the UK became weak and no longer invested in their countries. In order to gain independence, Catalonia would have to start a war and be backed up by at least half of the UN states (by recognising the country). Last I checked, Catalonia does not have an army and has no support from any country, not even the famous Kosovo. Similarly, if Catalonia were to be independent, this would mean the Basque country and Galicia would take the advantage and be free.

    • @GeoTren28
      @GeoTren28 4 года назад +6

      @@Ciappi79 also, you are very stupid, sorry to say it. Go check the Spanish history: Catalonia and Aragon became one single empire, but Catalonia was never its own. The Crown of Aragon (which included Catalonia) fully consented to being unified with the Kingdom of Castile. Spain was not even existing, so it did not conquer Catalonia. What happened is that Castile and Aragon-Catalonia unified. if that Constitution was not signed, Catalonia would be its own country to this day and Spain would've never existed.

  • @enricc1
    @enricc1 6 лет назад +6

    Carles Puigdemont not Charles Puigdemont lol

  • @eduardpuiggarcia6584
    @eduardpuiggarcia6584 6 лет назад +1

    I know a lot of argentinian people and they are soooo nice people and they´re accent is so beautiful. Love you from Barcelona

  • @leeolsson5271
    @leeolsson5271 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you! Short and sweet explanation. Just what I needed.

  • @ShahedVideo
    @ShahedVideo 6 лет назад +123

    My upper lip can kiss my lower lip and vice versa

    • @zamzamazawarma928
      @zamzamazawarma928 6 лет назад +4

      It's easier with the upper lip though.

    • @casrvsfv3172
      @casrvsfv3172 6 лет назад +1

      Then your lips kiss very badly yo need two lips to kiss properly

    • @imtiazqureshi2412
      @imtiazqureshi2412 6 лет назад +2

      What!?

    • @mansen2712
      @mansen2712 6 лет назад +4

      ShahedVideo my ass cheeks are kissing all the time too!

    • @Diogatos
      @Diogatos 6 лет назад +9

      i knew i had to open this comment

  • @fahimtajwar1989
    @fahimtajwar1989 6 лет назад +4

    If Catalonya becomes a country what will happen to Fc Barcelona?
    Will Catalonya have a good football team to play in the World Cups?

    • @JTZFX
      @JTZFX 6 лет назад

      Probably not because most of their players aren't Spanish, let alone Catalans, hahahah. They also wont have any regional leagues to play in...

  • @terugi
    @terugi 6 лет назад

    Just wanted to say I admire your posture very much, mainly is videos like this one or the Israeli one. I'm excited about the disputed territories after Zimbabwe, but how about a "big cities" series after that? Showing NYC, London, Tokyo, Lima, Sao Paulo, Shaghai, Lagos and so on.

  • @CoolioXXX52
    @CoolioXXX52 6 лет назад +1

    El Clasico is gonna be great this year