"There are two things that every sailor fears" I thought those things were "1. Fire at sea 2. Seeing his MIL on the quay when he goes back home" ;) Thank you for putting this together.
Naah. MIL is not a problem. She can't go onboard without permission, so the sailor can just stay on the ship and she can do nothing. Sinking ship is a bit difference. Either you get of the ship right quick, or you are on unpaid eternal duty.
Algol was a British oil tanker that caught fire during a hurricane in Biscaya Bay, where the superstructure (and the cabins below) burned out. I was part of the firefighter crew who worked onboard while a new superstructure was installed at the old dry dock at Eriksberg Shipyard, Gothenburg, Sweden. This was the very last ship using the drydock. It is now used as a little downtown dock for rich locals.
I was a diver on the Piper Alpha in 1977, working from the rig Sedco 704 that was being used as both a surface supplied and saturation diving platform, and the thirty foot long, boat bumper at the near left corner I installed myself. (Refering to your photo here that shows the Piper from above, the two flare starcks projecting to the right.) During my work there, the near flare stack in the photo frequently leaked and caught fire in the middle, melting the flare stack enough to cause it to droop and eventually fall into the sea. I don't recall any special alarm at that. The divers and others working on the deck of the Sedco 704 simply watched with amusement abd sarcasn, In fact, I photographed one such event and still have an enlarged cibachrome print of that, black smoke curling up high above the helideck. In any case, we didn't expect the platform to last much longer, as the rust below the water was extreme. And that was eleven years before the awful disaster.
There’s an excellent documentary called Fire In The Night about Piper Alpha. Well worth a watch….it’s not one of those hyped-up type documentary films and it has many interviews with survivors and rescuers. Also, there was a tv show here in Scotland called Rescue about the RAF rescue helicopters up here and one of the episodes was about Piper Alpha. The guy who filmed was on-call the night of the disaster and went along. His footage is incredible. His name is Paul Berriff and he was also in NYC with the fire department during 9/11. I was 10 when the disaster happened and I live(d) on the west coast of Scotland. I remember it clearly as our wee village had already lost oil workers due to the Shetland Chinook crash a couple of years before. I was in Aberdeen 4 weeks ago and took my 20 year old son to the Piper Alpha Memorial and to the Maritime Museum as he wants to become a saturation diver. Both are worth a visit - the museum is incredible and the memorial is beautiful….it sits in its own rose garden inside a massive park.
I like the compilations. I've watched so much of your content that I considered listing it on my resume when applying for a Offshore Paramedic position on an Oil Rig that I was recently looking at. 😂 (All of my Maritime experience comes from RUclips)
Just out of curiosity- what does the paramedic do during the times that no one is hurt? Cause I feel like people don’t get hurt that often- maybe I’m wrong.
@ripwednesdayadams the position is for a Paramedic but a large portion of the job would be overseeing safety/health. Id guess a lot of checking gear, dealing with making sure personnel are using the appropriate personal protective equipment etc.
I’ve been telling my husband what all I’m learning about diving, boats, fires, etc. He just nods his head as I ramble on because he’s a former firefighter/EMT and diver and he has worked in a steel mill for 21 years as a mechanic who fixes things that break like giant dangerous hot equipment as I sit in my nice comfy home at my desk entertaining myself with these videos especially when chores and errands get long and boring.
I was talking to my dad about the Conception the other night. Tons of boat folks in Ventura worked on Peace, Conception, and Orion. In the 80s and early 90s they were fine to work on, but over time they just got run down. I used to do dock rat stuff for tips around the boatyard and the dive dock when I was a liveaboard kid.
You can never truly underestimate the third-world’s ability to abuse equipment, exceed all sensible loading guidelines, neglect maintenance, and disregard safety precautions. Their officials are also prone to bribery and getting offended when called out on this.
Thank you for doing a compilation video of fires at sea. These all seem to be the biggest such fires. But there are many more such stories. I kept thinking about the Scandinavian Star fire as one of the worst. I hope you cover this in your next video on fires at sea.
Working in IT for school districts I see this type of thing all the time. When running cable through ceilings we’re supposed to use what’s called plenum-rated cables. In the event of a fire, this type of cable is less likely to catch fire and contribute to it, but it costs way more than regular Ethernet cables that you use at home. Running a couple of 10 foot cables at home is no big deal. But running miles of cables throughout multiple buildings is a big deal. Unfortunately the district controls the finances and I have no say in it. I have to run what they brung. So sick of it, I retired early 2 months ago.
My experience with fire at sea was while aboard the USS Jason AR8 tied up in San Diego at 32nd St Naval Base, alongside Pier 1. We were preparing to go on WESTPAC and most everyone was on leave off the ship and I was standing watch, learning on a railing serenly looking out over the bay, when the Jason (15,000 tons) gave a lurch under me. I was like WTF? Next thing smoke is pouring out a stack and 1MC is blaring FIRE FIRE FIRE ... call away the damage control party ... etc. I was a PO in the damage control party but it took a few moments to realize I had to unstick my feet from the deck and get moving! Put on an OBA and went down a ladder to the boiler room which was filled with smoke, but no fire. Turns out a nicky new Fireman had stuck a torch into the boiler to light it off without first venting the boiler, and the gases exploded. He survived with some flash burns, the damage was quickly repaired, and we left for WESTPAC on schedule.
High-pitched hissing is the last thing you want to hear on a drilling rig... means something is leaking, probably gas. Holy fk that is scary. If youve never worked in the drilling field, its hard to describe how many hazards there are at any given second of the day, but gas, gas is the worst. It can be under so much pressure it launches the drillpipe up and out of the well, the linked pipes will grow taller and taller until gravity wins, then 90 foot stems come raining down from the sky. Thats IF it doesnt consume you in the flames first. Look up and live. Man...
33:15 I love the fact that the Somalian pirates wear _camouflage._ While raiding _at sea._ "Hey bro what will make us look scary?" "Camouflage." "Yes baas"
Some places were already using it (well kinda). A cable tie and an envelope with a note in it explain the situation, who to call a phone number and when it will be fixed and space to leave a question.. that's what my dad did and his teams at the slaughter house in Germany.
Your comment regarding decision making under extreme stress. People tend to fall back on the rules of "permission from higher authority". I was confronted with a decision of who to rescue first...Over 80+ individuals in the water from a burning vessel. Arriving, in the dark I was confronted with a sea of flashing personal strobe lights. All individuals were offshore platform workers that were being transported by a crew launch. All wore life jackets. Literally, my first thought..."How the f*uck am I and my crew going to rescue all these people? I figuratively grabbed my mind and said..."You start with one, even at the risk of not rescuing all.
Theres a third fear. I wasnt a big ship Capt. but owner , "Capt " of a center console offshore fishing boat. I played a rich mans game on overtime pay. Played well Ill add. I was scared out there twice Once while running in thru a thunderstorm , lightning hitting all around. You can prepare for it , lowering rods and antennas but your still the highest object. No amount of seamanship , experience offshore is gonna help. Its all about luck or bad luck. Day to day , trips when I pushed the envelope way to far I was confident I could stay afloat and obviously did. Fire! Most boaters carry this extinguisher the size of a tall can of hairspray that meets CG regs and saves tickets. I had 3 full size commercial extinguishers. 100 gallons of gasoline was under our feet. If boat catches fire you have two options put fire out or join the sharks. I am not sure I wouldnt rather cook. Im sure if and when it happened and real pain staeted , I would not be a happy camper chin deep in the open ocean and sun setting. I can already hear that music. Something bumps my leg and a warm burning boat would be the lesser of my fears. In closing, I took my g/f , her daughters and friend's at times. I was totally responsible for any and everything that happened. I had the best navigator there is and He never missed a trip. I am thankful and most proud that, I got everyone back , safe , happy ready to go again and smelling a little fishy. I give God all the credit.
Well, what's sad is that is the EXACT purpose of a BOP. It's designed to close off the well without having to activate the shear rams. The actual BOP that was installed on the Macondo well had some faulty batteries that powered the BOP in the case of a loss of power from the rig (known as a dead man switch) which automatically powers the rams to close off the well. The batteries were faulty, so they lacked the power to do their job. Basically, whem the rig crew finally hit the EDS button it was already too late. Had they hit the button before the explosions and the power failure on the rig, the rams would've closed as they were designed to, but being an oilfield employee myself, I understand how nobody wanted to make that decision without permission from the man in charge, as that could be a career ender. We're always told that safety starts with us and we ALL have stop work authority, but in an emergency we are all just slaves to the man in charge.
This whole Deepwater Horizon disaster smacks of the oil companies, as per usual, putting even a handful of dollars above the safety and lives of it's personel. It's bad enough that they make the safety systems fully manual (and even worse that ANY goddamned navy/coastguard will even consider approving it), but to literally muddle the waters by making it confusing to people if they even have the authority to scramble an emergency system at all can only be an attempt to earn/save a few dollars over the safety of the crew. Even with or without being an oil rig expert, this is pure madness and impossible levels of greed to the point of direct murder. On navy and coast guard ships, a fully trained sailor of any ran can and will immediately initiate emergency responses if one erupts. They won't wait for the CO's approval. They are trained to identify and understand the situation and act. And they are trained to know when a situation can be delayed to let the CO handle it from the start, and when not to wait for instructions. A fire or hull breach (as examples) will always be to initiate a response without waiting for orders. And the first order of response in both cases is to evacuate and seal the affected compartment/s. You can always prepare a team with the proper equipment and enter (in case of a fire) to put out the blaze or at least contain it till it burns itself out. And you can reenter and start plugging holes if the compartment is not fully flooded by being fully below water level (which the engineers and damage control officers will know if it is). But this muddying the waters can only be to keep the rig working to the last second above any safety. And once that is uncovered in an investigation, if there is proof of it, the people who ordered it to be like that from their safe offices ashore should automatically be looking at at least 3 years of imprisonment for each crewmemeber killed. 3 years for one dead. 6 for 2 dead, etc etc, and no release before time for good behavior or any other reason. Always the full sentence. Maybe that way, they will consider safety as an imperative rather than an unimportant issue of irritation and unnecessary waste of money.
When you realize this accident was 1000% avoidable. A man lost his daughter in a horrific way all because the people in charge were lazy and some not qualified. I hope they get some type of justice.
Okay, all you old Navy dudes. What's the first thing you take care of first, flooding bellow deck or a fire? Well according to damage control training it's fight the fire first then you take of flooding. I was the Corpsman but was trained up to be able to be an on scene leader but I found out my counterparts on the other NATO vessels had no damage control training at all!!! I asked them what do they do if everyone on the damage control team is killed or wounded. Their answer was to give up the ship. One of the British ships that sailed with us went down during the Falklands war.
Those poor men and women, familys involved in the whiddy island... 😢 The sea wanted beatleguease. She was horribly neglected by her owners, she was done. Only 11 years old ..She had lost her sister to scrap before her eyes, her back breaking. She could take no more. She went to the sea, the only place she could ble free. She protected many crew through her gritted teeth, she could take no more. She warned those around her but the only language those spoke was greed. Take care of your ship, respect the sea and you a happy sailor.
Rachel was in a prior abusive relationship. It is a SURVIVAL MECHANISM to, shut down to avoid conflict. I've been there Frank. I've spent a lot of time in therapy. I'm also a psychologist myself. I still seek therapy from time to time. It is not easy for any partner in a relationship when it ends regardless off who initiated the break up. You can bet Rachel spent a lot of time to reach her decision. I hope the two of you can co-parent successfully.
Good God... having to trip 8000 feet just before touching surface, or seabed, im unsure what they call that in the oil field when you are at the seafloor, I imagine "surface" just like anywhere else anyone drills. That Deepwater Horizon must've been *M A S S I V E*
In the oil industry when you consider the profits to be made, it’s usually cheaper to deal with the aftermath of the disaster than to make changes. Same principal as the Ford Pinto. When struck by another a vehicle a certain way they tended to explode. But the cost to fix the problem was more than the cost to simply pay out money for lawsuits. So they let people die.
See, now, i could survive all of these scenarios because I am simply too stupid to know that fire kills, so, it wouldnt. It couldnt. Dumb jokes aside, may all these folks, civilians, workers, government officials, any and all of them lost in these stories, rest in peace and Paradise with the Heavenly Father. These stories are tragic..
Imagine having paid full price for a ticket, only to have to piss overboard because the toilets are inaccessible, due to people who shouldnt be there. Its enough to annoy any reasonable person, and the perfect analogy for illegal immigration in my country!
I don’t understand how you can write off the ship then buy it back and repair it? Surely it’s written off as it’ will cost MORE to fix so here’s its value …. Insurance … now go buy another one
Cause Noone has thought it would be nice if you could turn it off and on. Haha. It's instant.I assume the amount of pressure coming through it.Won't allow otherwise of course a fucking paid engineer would have thought it'd be nice to turn it on after we turn it off. Atleast I hope so.
Dude there isn't any luck, get out there in a bad way in life and pray to your luck god(s) and see what happens. Superstition is for the gullible pagans, it's never a good thing, always a curse. Like shitmas.
"There are two things that every sailor fears"
I thought those things were "1. Fire at sea 2. Seeing his MIL on the quay when he goes back home" ;)
Thank you for putting this together.
Naah. MIL is not a problem. She can't go onboard without permission, so the sailor can just stay on the ship and she can do nothing. Sinking ship is a bit difference. Either you get of the ship right quick, or you are on unpaid eternal duty.
What's an MIL? I'm a dirty desert rat, we don't see much water, so nautical terms and abbreviations, I'm somewhat lacking...
Algol was a British oil tanker that caught fire during a hurricane in Biscaya Bay, where the superstructure (and the cabins below) burned out. I was part of the firefighter crew who worked onboard while a new superstructure was installed at the old dry dock at Eriksberg Shipyard, Gothenburg, Sweden. This was the very last ship using the drydock. It is now used as a little downtown dock for rich locals.
I was a diver on the Piper Alpha in 1977, working from the rig Sedco 704 that was being used as both a surface supplied and saturation diving platform, and the thirty foot long, boat bumper at the near left corner I installed myself. (Refering to your photo here that shows the Piper from above, the two flare starcks projecting to the right.) During my work there, the near flare stack in the photo frequently leaked and caught fire in the middle, melting the flare stack enough to cause it to droop and eventually fall into the sea. I don't recall any special alarm at that. The divers and others working on the deck of the Sedco 704 simply watched with amusement abd sarcasn, In fact, I photographed one such event and still have an enlarged cibachrome print of that, black smoke curling up high above the helideck. In any case, we didn't expect the platform to last much longer, as the rust below the water was extreme. And that was eleven years before the awful disaster.
There’s an excellent documentary called Fire In The Night about Piper Alpha. Well worth a watch….it’s not one of those hyped-up type documentary films and it has many interviews with survivors and rescuers. Also, there was a tv show here in Scotland called Rescue about the RAF rescue helicopters up here and one of the episodes was about Piper Alpha. The guy who filmed was on-call the night of the disaster and went along. His footage is incredible. His name is Paul Berriff and he was also in NYC with the fire department during 9/11. I was 10 when the disaster happened and I live(d) on the west coast of Scotland. I remember it clearly as our wee village had already lost oil workers due to the Shetland Chinook crash a couple of years before. I was in Aberdeen 4 weeks ago and took my 20 year old son to the Piper Alpha Memorial and to the Maritime Museum as he wants to become a saturation diver. Both are worth a visit - the museum is incredible and the memorial is beautiful….it sits in its own rose garden inside a massive park.
That documentary is indeed outstanding. Very respectful of the families and survivors and at times painful to watch but so well crafted and memorable.
I'm sick with a fever and seeing your upload made my day better
We're in exactly the same boat! Been sick with a fever for 5 days now.
Same here I'm sick with a high fever. Maybe it's the video 😂
it's been a month, are you better now? did you have any dreams during fever?
I really enjoy these compilations! There were 3 stories i have not seen yet! The best way to spend Saturday!
Careful now... if it's a waterbed there might be a sequel!!! 🇮🇪 ☘
I like the compilations. I've watched so much of your content that I considered listing it on my resume when applying for a Offshore Paramedic position on an Oil Rig that I was recently looking at. 😂 (All of my Maritime experience comes from RUclips)
🤣👌🏻
Just out of curiosity- what does the paramedic do during the times that no one is hurt? Cause I feel like people don’t get hurt that often- maybe I’m wrong.
@ripwednesdayadams the position is for a Paramedic but a large portion of the job would be overseeing safety/health. Id guess a lot of checking gear, dealing with making sure personnel are using the appropriate personal protective equipment etc.
I’ve been telling my husband what all I’m learning about diving, boats, fires, etc. He just nods his head as I ramble on because he’s a former firefighter/EMT and diver and he has worked in a steel mill for 21 years as a mechanic who fixes things that break like giant dangerous hot equipment as I sit in my nice comfy home at my desk entertaining myself with these videos especially when chores and errands get long and boring.
Did you get the job?
I was talking to my dad about the Conception the other night. Tons of boat folks in Ventura worked on Peace, Conception, and Orion. In the 80s and early 90s they were fine to work on, but over time they just got run down. I used to do dock rat stuff for tips around the boatyard and the dive dock when I was a liveaboard kid.
You must have quite a few stories to tell 🫠
Just watched your Doña Paz video last night. Great channel
Thanks
@@waterlinestoriesyou’re welcome
I really love your videos and your voice, i find it very soothing, nothing like a good maritime disaster video before bed!!
I’m glad I’m not alone in this sentiment. And I too watch this channel while in bed.
Careful now... if it's a waterbed there might be a sequel! 🇮🇪 ☘
That Virtuoso Brillante story was nuts
So exceptionally dodgy.
Deepwater Horizon was unbelievable! It is incredible as many people survived as there were.
EXCELENTE COMPILAÇÃO DE VIDEOS...
I find your content fascinating and really enjoy your insights drawn from experience. Thanks for the videos WS.
You can never truly underestimate the third-world’s ability to abuse equipment, exceed all sensible loading guidelines, neglect maintenance, and disregard safety precautions. Their officials are also prone to bribery and getting offended when called out on this.
Have you ever seen the Indian scooter 🛵 being used as a family 5 seater? With baby in footwells or baskets... 😮
I'm Filipino and corruption in the Philippines is overwhelming from the local to federal government.😢
I love this channel. Always interesting content and always very informative. I haven’t missed one video!
I love these comps. Do more please 💪
Thank you for doing a compilation video of fires at sea. These all seem to be the biggest such fires. But there are many more such stories. I kept thinking about the Scandinavian Star fire as one of the worst. I hope you cover this in your next video on fires at sea.
My dad has cinnections at Lloyd's so I have been there a few times to check out the operation. They insure everything.
Well done compilation. Keep up the excellent work !!
I install fire suppression systems for commercial use. They're not that expensive. 5k to save 250k 🤷♂️ seems like a pretty easy choice 🤔
Working in IT for school districts I see this type of thing all the time. When running cable through ceilings we’re supposed to use what’s called plenum-rated cables. In the event of a fire, this type of cable is less likely to catch fire and contribute to it, but it costs way more than regular Ethernet cables that you use at home. Running a couple of 10 foot cables at home is no big deal. But running miles of cables throughout multiple buildings is a big deal. Unfortunately the district controls the finances and I have no say in it. I have to run what they brung. So sick of it, I retired early 2 months ago.
My experience with fire at sea was while aboard the USS Jason AR8 tied up in San Diego at 32nd St Naval Base, alongside Pier 1. We were preparing to go on WESTPAC and most everyone was on leave off the ship and I was standing watch, learning on a railing serenly looking out over the bay, when the Jason (15,000 tons) gave a lurch under me. I was like WTF? Next thing smoke is pouring out a stack and 1MC is blaring FIRE FIRE FIRE ... call away the damage control party ... etc. I was a PO in the damage control party but it took a few moments to realize I had to unstick my feet from the deck and get moving! Put on an OBA and went down a ladder to the boiler room which was filled with smoke, but no fire. Turns out a nicky new Fireman had stuck a torch into the boiler to light it off without first venting the boiler, and the gases exploded. He survived with some flash burns, the damage was quickly repaired, and we left for WESTPAC on schedule.
High-pitched hissing is the last thing you want to hear on a drilling rig... means something is leaking, probably gas. Holy fk that is scary. If youve never worked in the drilling field, its hard to describe how many hazards there are at any given second of the day, but gas, gas is the worst. It can be under so much pressure it launches the drillpipe up and out of the well, the linked pipes will grow taller and taller until gravity wins, then 90 foot stems come raining down from the sky. Thats IF it doesnt consume you in the flames first. Look up and live. Man...
33:15 I love the fact that the Somalian pirates wear _camouflage._ While raiding _at sea._
"Hey bro what will make us look scary?"
"Camouflage."
"Yes baas"
And forest camouflage, not marine/urban camouflage too
It seems... really unlikely those were actual pirates, though.
Just think, if Lock out, Tag out (ISO 14118) was practiced back in 1988, Piper Alpha would have never happened.
Some places were already using it (well kinda). A cable tie and an envelope with a note in it explain the situation, who to call a phone number and when it will be fixed and space to leave a question.. that's what my dad did and his teams at the slaughter house in Germany.
Dona Pas - a story where everything that could go wrong went wrong
you should do a video on BC Ferries, The Queen of the north a 125 m RORO, she sank on the coast british columbia. march 22 / 2006
Thanks, I’ll check it out
Thankyou Waterline,
John Connolly has left the ship, also, the Land Rover won't start
Your comment regarding decision making under extreme stress. People tend to fall back on the rules of "permission from higher authority".
I was confronted with a decision of who to rescue first...Over 80+ individuals in the water from a burning vessel. Arriving, in the dark I was confronted with a sea of flashing personal strobe lights. All individuals were offshore platform workers that were being transported by a crew launch. All wore life jackets. Literally, my first thought..."How the f*uck am I and my crew going to rescue all these people? I figuratively grabbed my mind and said..."You start with one, even at the risk of not rescuing all.
In our country there is a good saying for this: "The eyes are afraid, but the hands do the job"
Theres a third fear. I wasnt a big ship Capt. but owner , "Capt " of a center console offshore fishing boat. I played a rich mans game on overtime pay. Played well Ill add. I was scared out there twice
Once while running in thru a thunderstorm , lightning hitting all around. You can prepare for it , lowering rods and antennas but your still the highest object. No amount of seamanship , experience offshore is gonna help. Its all about luck or bad luck. Day to day , trips when I pushed the envelope way to far I was confident I could stay afloat and obviously did. Fire! Most boaters carry this extinguisher the size of a tall can of hairspray that meets CG regs and saves tickets. I had 3 full size commercial extinguishers. 100 gallons of gasoline was under our feet. If boat catches fire you have two options put fire out or join the sharks. I am not sure I wouldnt rather cook. Im sure if and when it happened and real pain staeted , I would not be a happy camper chin deep in the open ocean and sun setting. I can already hear that music. Something bumps my leg and a warm burning boat would be the lesser of my fears.
In closing, I took my g/f , her daughters and friend's at times. I was totally responsible for any and everything that happened. I had the best navigator there is and He never missed a trip. I am thankful and most proud that, I got everyone back , safe , happy ready to go again and smelling a little fishy. I give God all the credit.
yaaaayyyy new video , Best channel thanks for the content
Well, what's sad is that is the EXACT purpose of a BOP. It's designed to close off the well without having to activate the shear rams. The actual BOP that was installed on the Macondo well had some faulty batteries that powered the BOP in the case of a loss of power from the rig (known as a dead man switch) which automatically powers the rams to close off the well. The batteries were faulty, so they lacked the power to do their job. Basically, whem the rig crew finally hit the EDS button it was already too late. Had they hit the button before the explosions and the power failure on the rig, the rams would've closed as they were designed to, but being an oilfield employee myself, I understand how nobody wanted to make that decision without permission from the man in charge, as that could be a career ender. We're always told that safety starts with us and we ALL have stop work authority, but in an emergency we are all just slaves to the man in charge.
This whole Deepwater Horizon disaster smacks of the oil companies, as per usual, putting even a handful of dollars above the safety and lives of it's personel. It's bad enough that they make the safety systems fully manual (and even worse that ANY goddamned navy/coastguard will even consider approving it), but to literally muddle the waters by making it confusing to people if they even have the authority to scramble an emergency system at all can only be an attempt to earn/save a few dollars over the safety of the crew.
Even with or without being an oil rig expert, this is pure madness and impossible levels of greed to the point of direct murder. On navy and coast guard ships, a fully trained sailor of any ran can and will immediately initiate emergency responses if one erupts. They won't wait for the CO's approval. They are trained to identify and understand the situation and act. And they are trained to know when a situation can be delayed to let the CO handle it from the start, and when not to wait for instructions. A fire or hull breach (as examples) will always be to initiate a response without waiting for orders. And the first order of response in both cases is to evacuate and seal the affected compartment/s. You can always prepare a team with the proper equipment and enter (in case of a fire) to put out the blaze or at least contain it till it burns itself out. And you can reenter and start plugging holes if the compartment is not fully flooded by being fully below water level (which the engineers and damage control officers will know if it is).
But this muddying the waters can only be to keep the rig working to the last second above any safety. And once that is uncovered in an investigation, if there is proof of it, the people who ordered it to be like that from their safe offices ashore should automatically be looking at at least 3 years of imprisonment for each crewmemeber killed. 3 years for one dead. 6 for 2 dead, etc etc, and no release before time for good behavior or any other reason. Always the full sentence. Maybe that way, they will consider safety as an imperative rather than an unimportant issue of irritation and unnecessary waste of money.
Story 1, gross overloading and no authority checks, is bog standard for the world.
*$$$ MONEY $$$*
Every single disaster had corporate greed, ie cost-cutting, at its root.
Fire & drowning - the worst ways to die. 😢
WOW! I learned people involved in shipping are shady af. Brillante dude enters chat
Glad you're putting all of your older content together for new viewers, but you forgot to put the chapter markers in the video.
@1:18:48 That's actually called a "runaway engine", not break apart lol.
When you realize this accident was 1000% avoidable. A man lost his daughter in a horrific way all because the people in charge were lazy and some not qualified. I hope they get some type of justice.
Okay, all you old Navy dudes. What's the first thing you take care of first, flooding bellow deck or a fire? Well according to damage control training it's fight the fire first then you take of flooding. I was the Corpsman but was trained up to be able to be an on scene leader but I found out my counterparts on the other NATO vessels had no damage control training at all!!! I asked them what do they do if everyone on the damage control team is killed or wounded. Their answer was to give up the ship. One of the British ships that sailed with us went down during the Falklands war.
Whiddy Island. The Betelgeuse must have been poorly designed and built to break in two just 11 years after manufacture.
Those poor men and women, familys involved in the whiddy island... 😢
The sea wanted beatleguease. She was horribly neglected by her owners, she was done. Only 11 years old ..She had lost her sister to scrap before her eyes, her back breaking. She could take no more. She went to the sea, the only place she could ble free. She protected many crew through her gritted teeth, she could take no more. She warned those around her but the only language those spoke was greed.
Take care of your ship, respect the sea and you a happy sailor.
Owner of ship files 1st lawsuit. Wow, must be a pro.
Rachel was in a prior abusive relationship. It is a SURVIVAL MECHANISM to, shut down to avoid conflict. I've been there Frank. I've spent a lot of time in therapy. I'm also a psychologist myself. I still seek therapy from time to time. It is not easy for any partner in a relationship when it ends regardless off who initiated the break up. You can bet Rachel spent a lot of time to reach her decision. I hope the two of you can co-parent successfully.
Good God... having to trip 8000 feet just before touching surface, or seabed, im unsure what they call that in the oil field when you are at the seafloor, I imagine "surface" just like anywhere else anyone drills. That Deepwater Horizon must've been *M A S S I V E*
"Don't find anyone" ALIVE!
The las time I was this early, I caught my girlfriend cheating 😢
💀🤣
Sorry bout that.
she said she was single.
Sorry
LMAO
The last time I was this early, her husband hadn't left for work yet.😳
So, whats are the consequences of you shutting off the valve without having authorization from the higher-ups aside not dying and savinv lives?
I haven’t the courage to board an Asian ferry.
Good they don't want you
Missing chapter markers and list in description.
Oops they’re up now
@@waterlinestories Thanks!
In the oil industry when you consider the profits to be made, it’s usually cheaper to deal with the aftermath of the disaster than to make changes. Same principal as the Ford Pinto. When struck by another a vehicle a certain way they tended to explode. But the cost to fix the problem was more than the cost to simply pay out money for lawsuits. So they let people die.
No background music please. I'm here for information not music. Otherwise excellent vids
27:30 TF is the ATF doing there?!?!
Missing bodies, floated off?
Nice!
good
See, now, i could survive all of these scenarios because I am simply too stupid to know that fire kills, so, it wouldnt. It couldnt.
Dumb jokes aside, may all these folks, civilians, workers, government officials, any and all of them lost in these stories, rest in peace and Paradise with the Heavenly Father. These stories are tragic..
Ever notice a safety inspection or celebration of safety just before a major disaster? What a coincidence, or wait.. the opposite thing..
Roll on Roll over.........l
Betelgeuse: the needed refurbishments recommended but not done - what a false economy! That company paid out so much more than they'd have paid.
My limited maritime experience was as a 13 year old, going to YMCA camp on a water-taxi, to Catalina, to go skin diving. That water-taxi was a POS.
Imagine having paid full price for a ticket, only to have to piss overboard because the toilets are inaccessible, due to people who shouldnt be there. Its enough to annoy any reasonable person, and the perfect analogy for illegal immigration in my country!
I don’t understand how you can write off the ship then buy it back and repair it? Surely it’s written off as it’ will cost MORE to fix so here’s its value …. Insurance … now go buy another one
25 years to reunite wtf
12:09 Holy Crap!
As with many tragic events, they are preceded by a series of errors. In the Maritime industry,99% of the time it begins with greed.
I got a shot of penicillin
Cause Noone has thought it would be nice if you could turn it off and on. Haha. It's instant.I assume the amount of pressure coming through it.Won't allow otherwise of course a fucking paid engineer would have thought it'd be nice to turn it on after we turn it off. Atleast I hope so.
Ouchy
Twenty-two hundred is ridiculous. Is this WOKE????
How quickly did you realize the owner of Truth Aquatics had to be🇮🇱?
Dude, really?
Mario Iliopoulos has to be 🇮🇱 also
@@richardmackendrick4342Every single time
Dude there isn't any luck, get out there in a bad way in life and pray to your luck god(s) and see what happens. Superstition is for the gullible pagans, it's never a good thing, always a curse. Like shitmas.
BTW Its pronounced of not awf.