These Captains Abandoned Their Passengers

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @roberttysec4122
    @roberttysec4122 2 месяца назад +32

    Things that we have learned:
    1) if Moss Hills is on your ship, it is going down;
    2) if Moss Hills is on your ship, the captain will abandon it;
    3) if Moss Hills is on your ship, you have a decent chance of survival.

  • @stonykark
    @stonykark 6 месяцев назад +94

    Moss and Tracey Hills, who saved everyone on the Oceanos, survived another sinking a few years later and repeated their acts of heroism there too. You can’t train people to be selfless, some people have it and some don’t.

    • @OriginalCoalRollers
      @OriginalCoalRollers 5 месяцев назад +1

      No shit like your the only one who knows that, did you google search that before your comment

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@OriginalCoalRollers what a fountain of knowledge...please tell us more oh wise one.

    • @Boo-dawg.
      @Boo-dawg. 4 месяца назад +3

      I think I would give up traveling by ship if I were them. They pay to travel on a ship and end up being the rescue crew all 2 of them. If they continue to travel by ship, they need the owners to put them on the payroll 😂

    • @Boo-dawg.
      @Boo-dawg. 4 месяца назад

      ​@@OriginalCoalRollersDid you Google how to be an asshole? Or does it just come naturally? Your comment was rude and unnecessary. I guess it's difficult to be the know it all and a keyboard warrior

    • @joshgiesbrecht
      @joshgiesbrecht 3 месяца назад

      @@OriginalCoalRollersyour insecurity over your own intelligence is showing when you act like this. Trying to do a ‘gotcha’ over someone else’s intelligence so you can feel better about your own. It makes you look like an utter idiot.

  • @borisstanislav4560
    @borisstanislav4560 6 месяцев назад +417

    One of those captains did not leave the ship, he accidentally tripped and fell on a rescue boat ok😂

    • @assasin19991999
      @assasin19991999 6 месяцев назад

      Thats a -420 IQ excuse from him 😂

    • @aidenbailey2402
      @aidenbailey2402 6 месяцев назад

      Pazo aborde cazzo!

    • @GrubbJunker
      @GrubbJunker 6 месяцев назад +78

      Right after he fell on a clean suit and got dressed in it by mistake!

    • @borisstanislav4560
      @borisstanislav4560 6 месяцев назад +66

      @@GrubbJunker he also fell on a beautiful Moldovan dancer by accident, he is 110% innocent of infidelity!

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 6 месяцев назад +19

      ​@@GrubbJunkerArrogant passengers expecting him to die for them. Buy a ticket you take the risk simple. So many narcissistics thee days

  • @NicklePickle426
    @NicklePickle426 5 месяцев назад +65

    Moss Hills- the Man, the Entertainer, the Legend... saves hundreds of lives on 2 different sinking ships! We salute you! 🫡🫡🫡

    • @sepharad58
      @sepharad58 5 месяцев назад +6

      Tracy and Moss Hills are amazing people.

  • @neosodon9895
    @neosodon9895 6 месяцев назад +158

    Telling the passengers to stay below decks on a sinking ship while fleeing themselves is the worst thing a Captain could do.

    • @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 6 месяцев назад +3

      If some people want to stay they can stay

    • @larsblankenfjell9814
      @larsblankenfjell9814 5 месяцев назад

      Yes this is not a Sea Captain, its a well dressed Clown, who never should be close to a command.

    • @jjernstt
      @jjernstt 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24passengers listen to the captain, bc most passengers have no idea how a ship works or how and when to react in an emergency situation. Passengers rely on those in charge, even in dire situations for escape to be orderly. No one would stay bc they want to, this isnt the titantic where women and children are only allowed on life boats 🤦

    • @godofhate4167
      @godofhate4167 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 When someone says "stay in your cabin" that's not giving the passengers an option to leave buddy. What a stupid take tbh.

    • @me67galaxylife
      @me67galaxylife 4 месяца назад +2

      @bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 You’re the kind of people to do the same as those captains do and you’re trying to justify it

  • @TeMpThAnG
    @TeMpThAnG 5 месяцев назад +12

    26:13 "he'll coordinate the rescue from his rock" i would love to have seen de falco's face when he heard that

    • @asantaimeep
      @asantaimeep 9 минут назад

      I actually burst out in incredulous laughter because ?!?! WHAT

  • @Corinne-v9c
    @Corinne-v9c 6 месяцев назад +54

    One thing I've learned by watching this channel...if I'm on a ship & I sense the least bit of trouble or shifting of the ship, I'm headed to topside of the ship *no matter what anyone says..especially the Captain or crew of the ship!*

    • @paulsimpkins5991
      @paulsimpkins5991 6 месяцев назад +7

      Morning..You got it right I would grab family's and say follow me..we ain't hanging around down below

    • @EShirako
      @EShirako 6 месяцев назад +15

      And if you can't easily find the crew, apparently try to find the musicians!

    • @jst1man
      @jst1man 5 месяцев назад +6

      Oh and remember, if all else fails, and no one gives direction, there's got to be a salary or Navy person somewhere.
      By the way props to those that called the coast guard! More could have died or not called.

    • @rafalIL29
      @rafalIL29 2 месяца назад +4

      And if anyone tries to stop me they will be treated as active enemy combatant

  • @kmacksb
    @kmacksb 6 месяцев назад +34

    The Sewol was such a clusterfuck. I still cannot comprehend the captains' actions in any of these cases, but that one especially infuriates me. So many young lives lost. :-(

  • @jandedick7519
    @jandedick7519 6 месяцев назад +62

    Thinking of those poor kids drowning in their cabins is utterly heartbreaking. I’m glad he got a big sentence. I did some work for a Korean man and the Korean children are taught to respect their elders and his kid were so well behaved. They don’t talk back and listen to their parents. Sadly they died because of this .

    • @oldmategio
      @oldmategio 6 месяцев назад +19

      Saw an interview with one of the mothers saying he simply can't forgive himself for telling his young girl to stay and obey the orders from the crew. she died

    • @hollieBlu303
      @hollieBlu303 5 месяцев назад +9

      The MV Sewol disaster has apparently pushed many teachers in Korea to teach critical thinking in direct contravention of their usual hierarchical social structure. What a horrendous loss. Tragic

  • @davidthorne5715
    @davidthorne5715 6 месяцев назад +14

    The heroism of people in these stories is often inspiring

  • @GarrisonFall
    @GarrisonFall 6 месяцев назад +13

    The story of the Oceanus is worth making a major movie about.
    You've made a very good story of the incident. Well done.

  • @oez-chan
    @oez-chan 4 месяца назад +15

    What I learned is when they tell you everything is fine and want me to go back to my room. Dont listen to them.

  • @SneakySammi
    @SneakySammi 6 месяцев назад +10

    It's important to have good leadership, but it's critical to have good management of your leadership. Hierarchies rot from the top down. Thank you for the great video!

  • @emilypower9748
    @emilypower9748 Месяц назад +4

    I love watching these sorts of videos and am glad I found another great channel! Especially love that there is a presenter instead of just a narrator!

  • @johanvanrensburg2436
    @johanvanrensburg2436 6 месяцев назад +21

    Once again thank you for your awsome content..!
    For a simple South African farmer this is my highlight when you release video’s.
    Dankie Maat, Ek waardeer..!

  • @kyleanuar9090
    @kyleanuar9090 6 месяцев назад +89

    Captain of Concordia is legendary in this category.

    • @rotekampfflieger-dr.I
      @rotekampfflieger-dr.I 6 месяцев назад +13

      captain shittino?

    • @CAL1MBO
      @CAL1MBO 6 месяцев назад +1

      Top G

    • @MUFCSINCE90
      @MUFCSINCE90 6 месяцев назад +17

      NO the Coastguard giving Shitino a bolocking on the phone is the legendary part 💯

    • @deiluxx
      @deiluxx 6 месяцев назад +6

      poor excuse of a man

    • @76biggdogg
      @76biggdogg 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@MUFC1933 you may have escaped the wrath of the sea scuttino but you won't escape my wrath . Get back on that ship !!

  • @josephdouglas6482
    @josephdouglas6482 Месяц назад +7

    "What rank are you?" "I'm the guitarist." That in itself is just a wild couple of sentences.

  • @MegCazalet
    @MegCazalet 6 месяцев назад +27

    I think the story if a Captain NOT leaving ship but surviving is the Captain of the Lusitania, Captain Turner. He thought he was the last person on board and as he rode the ship down, he was horrified to see there were still passenger who were dragged back into the ship or under, by the rushing water. He felt it was his DUTY and HONOR to go down with the ship. It sank from under him, and he was able to swim away and stay afloat and not die of exposure. He ended up surviving, being picked up by the famous Bluebell.
    There’s a 2015 article in the Atlantic about the reason and morality behind the tradition of Captains going down with the ship. Of course, they also talk about the Costa Concordia.

    • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx
      @PositiveOnly-dm3rx 6 месяцев назад

      The captain is responsible for what happened. It makes sense. What doesn't make sense is feminists saying "women and children first".
      Funny how 'equality' only matters when they are getting something good, but never when it's sharing things like at work deaths, or war. Or blame when it's Margaret thatcher making the decisions.

  • @amyr4242
    @amyr4242 2 месяца назад +6

    "Perhaps you can let me know in the comments how badly I've butchered those French names" - au contraire, that was one of the more accurate RUclips Anglophone history pronunciations I've seen to date, bravo!

  • @BrandanTheBroker
    @BrandanTheBroker 6 месяцев назад +69

    When the entertainment makes a better captain than the captain, maybe the guitarist should become a captain and the captain should become a janitor

    • @fable23
      @fable23 6 месяцев назад +10

      I wouldn't trust that captain to even clean the ship. As far as I'm concerned, the only position he's fit for is "Inmate."

    • @JosieJOK
      @JosieJOK 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@fable23 Yeah, most janitors I’ve known have had a better work ethic and attention to detail than he had.

    • @markmiller2263
      @markmiller2263 4 месяца назад +1

      JANITOR IN PRISON!

    • @LtBlankman
      @LtBlankman 2 месяца назад

      When that guitarist also is involved in another sinking ship and spearheads the rescue, he should be commanding and taking whoever runs ship safety as a whole

    • @JamesPilkenton-se5cx
      @JamesPilkenton-se5cx 29 дней назад +1

      Hey ! I,sir,am a janitor And a guitarist. I will permit no besmirching of my choices of employment nor my choice of entertainment. Let's go already !!

  • @smedleyx
    @smedleyx 6 месяцев назад +20

    I'm old, so it's always going to be the Python sketch where the announcement from the bridge is 'women and children first', he said, as the crew change into dresses and school uniforms
    The shame is that the captains who decide to go down with their ship tend to be far more valuable characters than those who ditched and lived (one of the strongest counterexamples to the Darwin awards)

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 6 месяцев назад +30

    Joke with Oceanos is that Greek for "Abandon Ship" is pronounced as "MeFirst".

  • @AndreasGlad-rq7vx
    @AndreasGlad-rq7vx 6 месяцев назад +73

    Nooo, you are wrong, they were not running away, they were leading "abandon ship" by example....

    • @rillawhat8142
      @rillawhat8142 6 месяцев назад +2

      😅👍🏾

    • @shanellmiller-c2t
      @shanellmiller-c2t Месяц назад

      One even accidentally slipped into a lifeboat.ish happens yk

  • @MegCazalet
    @MegCazalet 6 месяцев назад +10

    “If some people like to stay, they can stay” was an absurd, callous thing to say about the people abandoned on HIS ship. That certainly didn’t help his case. Nobody WANTS to stay.

  • @svanveer
    @svanveer 4 месяца назад +4

    An Italian captain entertaining an exotic dancer and trying to impress her by showing her his island. Doesn't get any more Italian than that ;-)

  • @oldmategio
    @oldmategio 6 месяцев назад +43

    Sewol is way worse not only bc it was full of kids, but also bc the SK coast guard rescue was a mockery.

    • @EShirako
      @EShirako 6 месяцев назад +1

      Or a farce...or a mockery OF a farce? It was utterly insane. They claimed everyone was rescued, "Yep yep yep, all passengers free!" 'Saving face' apparently entails 'punching yourself in the crotch' because I have NO idea how they thought that lying about survivors would ever have anything but a painfully-bad result.

  • @RedVRCC
    @RedVRCC 4 месяца назад +4

    Lmao that second one and the navy commander being like "you created this mess now get your ass back on board"

  • @cedricporter3993
    @cedricporter3993 Месяц назад +4

    How can these captains live without being absolutely disgusted of themselves? They are not even taking responsibility for their actions! And the first one has been given a new command? That's so sickening!

  • @riverbender9898
    @riverbender9898 6 месяцев назад +8

    No excuse for cowardice! Thank you.

    • @Corinne-v9c
      @Corinne-v9c 6 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly. I mean, how hard is it to just get on an intercom & yell "abandon ship" & for everybody to get on the deck of the ship where they would be the safest?

  • @csnipper524
    @csnipper524 5 месяцев назад +9

    The Sewol victims were filmed from the start, from an overloaded ship, a bad captain, and even worse a government that was worried about appearance than the lives of those passengers. This whole scenario was beyond shameful and disturbing.

  • @LemonCamel
    @LemonCamel 6 месяцев назад +18

    Always good vids and nice to rewatch once in a while. Your channel feels like a Mentor Pilot of the seas

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  6 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks. I'll take that

    • @Transberrylemonaid
      @Transberrylemonaid 6 месяцев назад +1

      Without the constant supporting of Better Help. 😂 also, I’m not losing my mind then? This is a reupload?

  • @stevenblack7928
    @stevenblack7928 2 месяца назад +6

    It is never a good sign when your officer in command has a mullet.

  • @5amH45lam
    @5amH45lam 6 месяцев назад +10

    It's unreal that the Captain on the Sewol ordered the passengers to stay in their cabins on a capsizing boat... while he evacuates! I can't get my head around that. It's like he _wanted_ them to die. Smh...

  • @deecawford
    @deecawford 5 месяцев назад +5

    I love these longer videos. So sad and could have been avoided, all of them.

  • @fatovamingus
    @fatovamingus 6 месяцев назад +7

    By now most of us have heard the conversation between difalco and schettino. I'm glad you left it out because it just sort of separates you from the rest. Again. They had t-shirts with some quote between DeFalco to Schettino.

  • @Jablicek
    @Jablicek 6 месяцев назад +25

    I just can't listen to any accounts of the Sewol. Those poor kids.

    • @corvinredacted
      @corvinredacted 6 месяцев назад +12

      Same. I consume a lot of tragic and upsetting tue disaster media, but the Sewol is the one I have a hard time not feeling genuinely sick over. Especially the footage of the ship just sitting there for ages as nobody does anything. It's over and done, but I can't seem to stop the urgent, "Do something, do something, there's time, God somebody just DO SOMETHING," feeling as if it's still actively happening in front of me. I get enrage-distressed just thinking about it.

    • @OriginalCoalRollers
      @OriginalCoalRollers 5 месяцев назад

      Sewol, sewol, sewol

  • @jasonarmstrong1305
    @jasonarmstrong1305 6 месяцев назад +25

    Man, I hate when I just fall into lifeboats... what a shame.

    • @HarryLime-ge6dc
      @HarryLime-ge6dc 6 месяцев назад +2

      That's just one of those unfortunate accidents like "I fell in the lifeboat! Oh my God!" Or "Honey, it's unbelievable, we were just talking and our clothes were blown off and I fell into her special area! I think I'm hurt!"

    • @sw9881
      @sw9881 3 дня назад

      Pretty serendipitous to fall into a life boat during an emergency evacuation😅😂

  • @Vampire296099
    @Vampire296099 6 месяцев назад +16

    Greetings from the Black Sea Romania. Love your videos. I love these compilations

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, good to hear. Would love to visit the black sea some time.

  • @TBblake
    @TBblake 6 месяцев назад +5

    Nicely done. You do a very good job giving the facts as they are.

  • @johnmchugh-dt7gg
    @johnmchugh-dt7gg 6 месяцев назад +8

    Thanks for a great video. I was already familiar with these three disasters but I really enjoyed your documentary. The first one about the ships entertainers saving everyone on board was fascinating .How the captain of that ship was not jailed for abandoning his passengers and allowed to command a ferry afterwards is crazy.

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes incredible.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 месяцев назад +2

      As a former arts section journalist in a conservative city, I was pretty proud of them, hearing the entertainers did that. A lot of my time was trying to promote the community, I was talking to incredible artists & musicians doing great work, then when we were fighting to save a music venue or a school program or get sponsorships/grants for large projects, so many people outside the sector spoke of artists as flighty, flaky, self-indulgent, less useful...it was so frustrating, esp bc in my experience, entertainers + other artists are as brave, resourceful, canny, & altruistic as any other person can be.
      lol except the magician from the Costa Concordia, who left another entertainer who was part of a sawing-lady-in-half trick locked in her box when the ship hit. She was the Legs so she couldn't even see what was going on. But she stayed to help passengers too when someone released her from her box.

  • @moiraatkinson
    @moiraatkinson 6 месяцев назад +4

    I’m getting more and more hooked on this channel. The narration is excellent, the stories well told and very interesting.

  • @Rose-SingingWolf
    @Rose-SingingWolf 3 месяца назад +7

    It’s murderous to tell passengers to stay below in cabins while a ship sinks.

  • @loobielou6965
    @loobielou6965 6 месяцев назад +10

    Yaaaaaas! I been hoping you'd drop a video today. 😍 thank you for making my Tuesday, much love from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  6 месяцев назад +7

      Awesome. I've got a Scottish story coming up in a few weeks. Watch me butcher the pronunciations. 🤣

  • @b.p.879
    @b.p.879 6 месяцев назад +7

    I would not have been surprised to hear "At 22:59 Captain Schettino fills his pants."

  • @JohnDLeo-rg8tc
    @JohnDLeo-rg8tc 2 месяца назад +3

    this is the saddest story. A monsterous act of craven cowardice murdering all those humble, obedient kids.

  • @DRAKED411
    @DRAKED411 6 месяцев назад +39

    As a captain myself this absolutely disgusted me.

    • @bluebelle8823
      @bluebelle8823 6 месяцев назад +5

      I'm glad we have a Captain in here saying that. It disgusts us but I can only imagine the way it truly makes some of the professionals in the comments feel.

  • @RaphBlade7
    @RaphBlade7 Месяц назад +4

    *The following are the musings of a Salty SEAGULL named EARL who just shows up in my posts whenever he feels like it!*
    [EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] 3:00 - "I'm surprised this SHIP was allowed to even leave port in this kind of condition! Seriously the the TITANIC was more sea worthy (some believe she would have survived if she hit the Iceberg head on rather than the glancing blow that crippled her and had she avoided the Iceberg completely she would have likely made it to New York) than this ship!" 3:15 - "If only its departure time had been delayed by repairs, she may have survived! Still sometimes a ship is just reached the end of her lifespan and its more cost effective to scrap her than try and keep the old girl afloat on a budget!" 3:19 - "A man who does not deserve to be called anything but CAPTAIN COWARD! Seriously he made a bad situation even worse! Had he and the crew done their job they would be considered heroes rather than bumbling cowards! He tells only the crew to abandon ship, does not send out a mayday, and as soon as help does arrive he flees to like the rat from a sinking ship that he is pushing elderly passengers out of the way as he does so! He ignores the maritime tradition of a CAPTAIN GOING DOWN WITH HIS SHIP which means the CAPTAIN will stay onboard until all the crew and passengers who can be saved are safe, only then is he allowed to escape! Its a tradition even older than the Titanic sinking which is probably the most famous example as Captain SMITH likely was fully aware the ship didn't have enough lifeboats to save everyone onboard (they also weren't filled to capacity) so he went down with it per maritime tradition of his day!" 23:46 - "CAPTAIN ROBERTO's mutiny was well warrented! He did what the CAPTAIN should have been doing rather than downplaying the severity of the situation! To me the 2nd CAPTAIN was a TRUE SAILOR worthy of his SEA SALT (SEA SALT is a SEAGULL METAPHOR for experience and grit which is why experienced SAILOR's are known as an OLD SALT cause they have accumulated a large amount of SEA SALT! Seriously that guy deserves a promotion to CAPTAIN and the CAPTAIN of the COSTA CONCORDIA needed to be demoted to SCUM OF THE SEA)! A SAILOR's duty in that situation is to ensure the safety of the passengers and if the CAPTAIN cannot do their job, then the next in the chain of command need to step up and lead his fellow SAILORs in doing their duty!" 24:59 - "Now the deputy Mayor is my kind of politician! A man of action who wants to be on top of the situation! You know you've messed up when a local politician is looking more competent than the actual ship captain!" 25:50 - "I totally understand De Falco's rage at the CAPTAIN's incompetence and excuses! He saw right through the CAPTAIN's BS for the coward and arrogant moron that he was!" 42:21 - "It baffles me how experienced CAPTAINs fail to recognize their duty to their crew and passengers! A good CAPTAIN doesn't abandon ship unless absolutely necessary (such as in the event they are injured, too intoxicated to lead, or impaired due to an injury that they sustained from the accident or in the process of trying to get the passengers and crew to safety)! I'm not saying a CAPTAIN literally has to die or actually go down with the ship, just that they should do everything in their power to lead the crew and passengers during a disaster and should they become incapable of doing so, then they can evacuate either temporarily (if their injuries can be treated allowing them to return to the ship later to assist with the rescue operations! That's why its a maritime tradition, as it all depends on the situation! If the CAPTAIN isn't capable of leading, incapacitated, or dead, then its up to the next in command to take charge and carry out their duty to the rest of the crew, staff, & passengers) or relinquish command to their direct subordinate cause they are no longer able to! Still its not like you can teach bravery and you never know how anyone will react in an actual emergency, as even trained soldiers can lose it upon their first taste of actual combat! Still CAPTAIN's need to be held accountable for their actions and inactions especially if they failed to do even the bare minimum of what they are supposed to!" 46:25 - "This is why its important to use correct Navel terminology! You want the Helmsmen to turn to port then say that! Also the helmsmen should have clarfied how he was supposed to turn instead of making assumptions as its not like they can read each other's minds! Its a combination of inexperience and poor communication between the crew that were on duty! Look I get the CAPTAIN is human and probably trusted his crew, but maybe if he had been present things might have played out differently!" 50:16 - "While it may sound perfectly reasonable and there is nothing wrong with telling passengers to remain calm in such a situation! I find the command to stay put worrisome as sometimes in a situation staying put can lead to your death, such as I don't know your cabin starts filling up with water! Also I think the cabins should have been evacuated and passengers placed in an area of the ship where they could escape either into available life boats, airlifted to safety, or if they need to swim to safety! Better to have them on deck where they can conceivably escape to safety than hold up in their cabins where they can drown! Seriously this is why ships need lifeboat drills so the passengers and crew know what to do! I mean I'm not going to fault anyone from refusing to stay put cause they are afraid for their lives as that's self preservation and there were high schoolers on board who should have been the first people evacuated off ship along with the elderly (unless the elderly person gives up their spot to save one of the young folk cause they didn't have enough lifeboats due to the nature of the disaster or because some lifeboats were damaged)!" 51:28 - "This is exactly why staying in one's cabin is a potential death trap! Better to be on deck with a life jacket waiting to get on a lifeboat, helicopter, or transported to a nearby vessel if it is safe to do so, than wait in an area that could make escape more difficult! Seriously sometimes passengers have to look out for themselves than blindly trust the CAPTAIN & CREW especially when they aren't being evacuated! Also CAPTAINs should air on the side of caution and inform the Coast Guard or other nearby vessels of the situation so they can render assistance if needed!" 52:18 - "Life jackets should have been handed out immediately in case the situation changed too abruptly for the captain and crew to act or failure of onboard communication equipment!" 52:29 - "Time is of the essence in an emergency so these things should have been ordered by the CAPTAIN before the authorities even arrived back when their communications equipment was working! Look I understand if some of the life jackets onboard became inaccessible cause of the ship listing and sinking, but you try and get as many people wearing life jackets or at least clothing to keep them warm! Heck if you have to throw some buoyant deck chairs or other objects that can float into the water to give passengers something to grab onto if necessary or have them hold onto said object! I'd be ripping off wooden doors, gather up every life preserver/ring, pool inflatables, and anything that can float to help people keep their heads above water if the ship does go down before help can arrive! Prepare for the worst as its better to be safe than sorry! Seriously flotsam in a sinking can save people's lives! I mean even ships that have life jackets and enough life boats can end up in a situation where they are unable to access certain parts of the ship where those things are stored and accidents can damage things like lifeboats or lifeboats can be defective or break down over time or be rendered in operable! Not all disasters are created equally and some can be worse than others especially if corners are cut or the crew is incompetent or inexperienced! Also again nobody can be fully prepared to deal with a disaster and even those with experience and training can panic or make mistakes/errors in judgment that cost lives but to me they dropped the ball with ordering the passengers to stay put and failing to ensure every life jacket and flotation device available was provided to the most vulnerable! Personally I think they should have evacuated the passengers to the deck or parts of the ship with easy access to the deck that way you can focus on the remaining passengers! Sure for people trapped in certain parts of the ship their best option is probably to wait and film what might be their last moments, though I wouldn't fault anyone from trying to escape if they were able enough to do so as they could end up escaping to inform others of the remaining survivors predicament! Yes, it may be risky but in that kind of situation it may be your best option to survive and potentially save others by alerting authorities of the situation!" 52:37 - "I wouldn't be surprised if they did lie about it being down, as not enough life vests is a recipe for panic! But its no like they couldn't ask rescue services to provide them with more or get as many on the passengers as possible! Heck if there are any pool noodles or other pool based inflatables onboard had those out to passengers and if need be find objects in the ship that can act as an improvised floatation device (deck chairs, wooden panels, etc)! Anything is better than nothing!" 52:49 - "This was where CAPTAIN LEE should have ordered an evacuation and asked what rescue services needed to aid him in evacuation of the ship, as well as inform them they need more life jackets for the passengers if authorities are able to provide them! Seriously this isn't rocket science, just common sense!"

  • @TimothyWiley-r2b
    @TimothyWiley-r2b 2 месяца назад +3

    Moss Hill is a hero, him and a few others saved hundreds of lives when the captain and most of the crew left.. these men need to remember the duties of captain and crew of a passenger ship are responsible for their safety, the Sewol ferry is the worst..., these men should ever have commanded any ship....

  • @adampflanzer4833
    @adampflanzer4833 4 месяца назад +3

    Love your work!! Could I make a suggestion/request that you reduce the frequency of that spooky white noise sweep sound effect? It starts to lose its efficacy and is quite distracting after awhile

  • @sandraburke1258
    @sandraburke1258 6 месяцев назад +1

    Young Man, your presentation of these events are spot on, laymans terms for those of us who are unfamiliar with waterline vessels.

  • @SaltyChip
    @SaltyChip Месяц назад +1

    "Why did you leave first??"
    "I had to show them how to get safe! How else would they know? I even turned back from time to time and would yell, "FOLLOW ME!" Im just glad of my quick thinking!"

  • @ReeceFranz-t7h
    @ReeceFranz-t7h 6 месяцев назад +2

    Really enjoyed your videos. I remember the Oceanos cock- up well and have read The Perfect Storm at least a dozen times. Fascinating and extremely sad

  • @SageWhite-Rose
    @SageWhite-Rose 4 месяца назад +2

    I think you did a fabulous job pronouncing those names. ❤🎉

  • @ryancase8858
    @ryancase8858 6 месяцев назад +5

    You start to cry at the moment of an emergency? I don’t think she’s cut out for this line of work.

    • @JulienGardner
      @JulienGardner 5 месяцев назад +3

      She s 25, 1 year of experience.

  • @PeterWalllace-m9y
    @PeterWalllace-m9y Месяц назад +3

    That Greek captain is a complete coward

  • @TheLexusKitsune
    @TheLexusKitsune 6 месяцев назад +4

    It wouldn’t be a proper video on negligent captains without Costa Concordia’s Francesco Schettino

  • @Taketimeout3
    @Taketimeout3 4 месяца назад +1

    Very clever. Using part of a ladder, or a shelf unit turned upways, and the pseudo industrial wall light gives the impression you are in a large space in a ship.

  • @philippal8666
    @philippal8666 Месяц назад +2

    When I scuba dive, I am responsible for checking my equipment, my buddies equipment, our computers, our dive signals to boats, our alternate air, knives, compasses and all safety equipment. It’s up to both of us as trained individuals to use it.
    When I get on a ferry, they lock the door to the bridge, the life jackets are locked, the lifeboats are secured. I am not trained, I do not have a clue, and as part of my ticket I’m paying for enough staff to assist with organising the lifeboats.
    I go far out to sea in small boats where a life jacket is all you get. But generally we’re all able bodied.
    I go out on hovercraft where a life jacket is all you get and you have to think who would do each child.
    The captain, or his next in command should be an able bodied adult. The captain has ultimate authority to the level of being able to put someone in jail. With those rights, comes something people weasel out of: responsibility.

  • @sajanim
    @sajanim 6 месяцев назад +7

    Oceanus Captain should have been jailed and had his license revoked.

  • @paulshelley8132
    @paulshelley8132 7 дней назад

    Thanks!

  • @tumultuoustenets1228
    @tumultuoustenets1228 5 месяцев назад +2

    26:07 the only correct response to hearing that the captain has committed dereliction of duty

  • @SaltyChip
    @SaltyChip Месяц назад +1

    to not even call for a mayday... that's wild human behavior there. Someone missed something for that person to be in charge of a ship of any size.

  • @SeaTravelr123
    @SeaTravelr123 6 месяцев назад +2

    Your French sounds pretty good mate. Wow... great reporting.. As a former crewmember, I always hoped that I would act in an honorable manner, should we meet a disaster, but one never knows until it happens.. thank you for such thorough reporting...

    • @waterlinestories
      @waterlinestories  6 месяцев назад

      🤣 thanks

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 6 месяцев назад

      I respect crew members.
      On one ferry trip I had an impression that it was incessant work. The ramp went down and half dozen men ran off, throwing their jackets to the men running in.

  • @oscartango2348
    @oscartango2348 6 месяцев назад +4

    The captain and executives of the Korean ferry should be sentenced to watch those kids videos, every day for the rest of their lives. Having to watch the last moments of all those children that they killed, might actually bring some perspective to their actions.

  • @jeffdundon9895
    @jeffdundon9895 3 месяца назад +3

    Wow.. good stories..ty

  • @csnipper524
    @csnipper524 5 месяцев назад +2

    The e captain of the Concordia was more concerned with getting his rocks off than keeping the ship off the rocks.

  • @infantry_man
    @infantry_man 6 месяцев назад +8

    "I will coordinate the rescue from my rock" what was the captain thinking?

    • @Balrog-tf3bg
      @Balrog-tf3bg 6 месяцев назад +1

      “I will escape”

    • @protector1990
      @protector1990 5 месяцев назад

      I have a feeling that if DeFalco could physically reach Schettino at that moment, he would be the one serving prison sentence now.

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE 6 месяцев назад +2

    As ex-RAN, it blows my mind that any captain is so cowardly as to leave the ship early.⚓
    Even if there's nothing more to be done, a captain still hesitates before going over the side.

    • @JohnSchofield-j4i
      @JohnSchofield-j4i 3 месяца назад

      Falsifying stability data places the culpability firmly on the regulatory authority.

  • @johnengland8619
    @johnengland8619 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks again for the content

  • @callummcdonald1625
    @callummcdonald1625 3 месяца назад +1

    Bro the captain in the first one literally took the George Costanza option without a hint of irony.

  • @minellechevalier1748
    @minellechevalier1748 4 месяца назад +1

    02:31 In Germany we called Ships like this "Rosteimer"!

  • @Name-ot3xw
    @Name-ot3xw 5 месяцев назад +2

    TFW the captain abandoned ship and the next highest ranking officer plays guitar down in the lounge.

  • @CarolAnn-gh9fl
    @CarolAnn-gh9fl 6 месяцев назад +5

    Oh come on…..he was just guiding the rescue effort from shore.

    • @Corinne-v9c
      @Corinne-v9c 6 месяцев назад +2

      While sitting on a rock...lmao!

  • @doggmansnapperdude3405
    @doggmansnapperdude3405 17 дней назад

    So the pic that keeps coming up of the first captain with that big grin started cracking me up haha it’s like yeah you know what I’m thinking I’m thinkin I’m gonna save my own ass with the quickness

  • @markchapman2585
    @markchapman2585 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome channel. I watched all the videos before. But it's definitely worth watching again. Cheers 🍻

  • @Saddletramp1200
    @Saddletramp1200 6 месяцев назад +3

    Ask any Mermaid you happen to see, Who's the biggest Coward? Captains of the Oceanos & Concordia, The Chickens of the Sea.

  • @JayPerry-p2n
    @JayPerry-p2n 6 месяцев назад +7

    You kinda down played the SEWOL. Those people/children could have been rescued. From the ships crew to the Korea coast guard to the South Korea government. No one did did their job and even kept others from trying to save them. 😢

  • @CensorshipGenesis
    @CensorshipGenesis 15 дней назад +1

    "If they wan to stay they can stay"!!! I never imagine that a ship captain could say such a ridiculous statement! Almost as unbelievable that later he was given another command! By the same employer company. Atrocious.

  • @mariecolette170
    @mariecolette170 Месяц назад +1

    Hasn’t everyone seen the movie Titanic? If you’re on a cruise ship and there is a huge boom! followed by lights flickering, then the ship starts listing..yea you’re in trouble. If ship personnel say “Everything’s fine, please continue enjoying yourself” That means it’s really serious trouble! You may have a small window to run 2ur room for ur passport, change your heels to Nikes, plastic bag for ur phone, charger, cash n cards..then run find a life jacket n get to the upper deck to assess whether it’s best to wait for a lifeboat or where to jump into the water!
    Do not listen to anyone who tells you everything’s ok. Think of that day in September in Nyc where they told the workers in Tower 2 to get back to work everything’s fine..the ones who listened never made it home 😢 You just can’t trust anyone with your life. Get out safely, make it back home no matter what.

  • @firstlast1047
    @firstlast1047 5 месяцев назад

    Story 2 at 17:35 you chide the captain for asking the retired captain for advice for "safe passage" . In addition to plotted course, visual look out, requesting "local knowledge" is part of a seamen's repertoire for determining safe passage.

  • @VDMDG
    @VDMDG 6 месяцев назад +2

    Your french is bit funny but seams your Greek is even funnier 😆🐬

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 месяцев назад +1

    I always think I've heard the Sewol story enough, that I am familiar enough that I don't need to hear it again or if I happen to listen to the story I'll know it enough that it won't affect me.
    I'm wrong. Every. Single. Time. Omg those children were failed so badly. I'll never be able to hear the Sewol mentioned without breaking into tears.
    Kids shouldn't be trained to be "obedient". There are a hundred more valuable traits to encourage + nurture in your kids that lead to good behaviour & keep them safer. Obedience for obedience's sake is dumb, dangerous, & brutal.

  • @samandbritt224
    @samandbritt224 6 месяцев назад +2

    Periu... per... par... fuck it, somewhere in Greece, you get the drift!

  • @fayecox9401
    @fayecox9401 4 месяца назад +1

    Definitely new subscriber here

  • @jimhaney6384
    @jimhaney6384 6 месяцев назад +2

    French built, Greek owned...
    This ship was going down, one way or another.

  • @ryangalante
    @ryangalante 6 месяцев назад +1

    Im jus curious, this is your world but isn't the gap between Chile and South pole the worse conditions in open ocean, Ive heard both.

  • @RaphBlade7
    @RaphBlade7 Месяц назад +1

    *The following is a continuation of the musings of a Salty SEAGULL named EARL who just shows up in my posts whenever he feels like it!*
    [EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] 20:56 - "Seriously the CREW shouldn't downplay the severity especially in a situation where the ship is listing! Look I get ships are built to be water tight but so was the TITANIC! Water tight compartments can become compromised and even modern ships can sink under the right circumstances! Tell everyone to remain calm and to start preparing for the possibility of evacuation! Don't just act like everything is hunky dory when people can tell that it isn't! I'd rather have passengers alert and prepared than not taking the situation seriously leading to them being unprepared and caught off guard which causes them to panic!" 21:55 - "This kind of order should be considered criminal and thus unenforeable! The CAPTAIN was clearly trying to protect his own @$$ like the arrogant moron that he is! He doesn't listen to his experienced predecessor or his ship's engineer and tells his communication officer to lie to other vessels offering assistance about the severity of the situation instead of the truth!" 22:05 - "BULL$HIT! If a communications officer knowingly lies or downplays the severity of an incident they know is serious cause the CAPTAIN ordered them to should be a crime, in addition to the captain making such an order should be illegal! There is no reason to withhold that kind of information from those offering assistance!" 23:07 - "Seriously this so-called captain is a peace of $HIT who is trying to downplay everything while his ship is completely out of his control taking on water, and he's too stubborn to accept it or focus on doing his duty!" 53:07 - "If I was the person in charge of the rescue team, I'd be prepared to send someone aboard to help me better assess the situation and coordinate with the CAPTAIN! The CAPTAIN also should have focused on evacuating the most vulnerable passengers such as high schoolers, mentally impaired, and elderly first! Ask if they can provide more life jackets for the passengers and deploy any lifeboats that are still operational and safe to do so! Even if the helicopter can't get everyone off, they can at least evacuate some passengers while preparing others for eventual rescue by other ships or air rescue as soon as they can arrive! The CAPTAIN should ask what information they need and explore any other avenues to get passengers to safety (lifeboats, nearby vessels able to take on passengers, and/or mobilize more rescue choppers)!" 53:39 - "This is where you say screw the CAPTAIN's orders and flee to safety! If any of the crew object, tell them the ship is flooding and that you don't plan on drowning cause the CAPTAIN is taking his sweet @$$ time to evaluate the ship! At least start ordering people to make their way to the upper decks as soon as you hear the ship is flooding! Still don't be a jerk and do what you can to aid your fellow passengers and the crew if need be!" 54:16 - "They should have been! Communication is key! If you can't use the radio, switch to FLAG SEMAPHORE if you have to! Seriously I'm starting to doubt the competency of the rescuers!" 55:40 - "If I was in charge he'd be placed in handcuffs as soon as it became clear of his identity! The captain reacted way too slow, ordered people to stay in their cabins, failed to even prepare to evacuate the ship when given the option to do so, and was the first to jump ship as soon as rescue arrived leaving everyone else to die! Your the CAPTAIN not a RAT ON YOUR SINKING SHIP!" 56:46 - "This is the PART that FILLS ME with RAGE! They trusted the CAPTAIN and CREW who betrayed that trust! I can't fault the rescuers as they probably didn't realize the severity of the situation onboard either due to poor or lack of communication or the speed at which the situation changed! I mean can't save passengers who stayed in their rooms without proper equipment especially once it sank! I'm sure they did everything possible and maybe there were some oversights (seriously the first ship on site should have been in contact with the cruise ship, pull out the SEMAPHORE FLAGs if the radio goes down)! If there is nothing more the captain and crew can do then abandoned ship! If your the CAPTAIN wait until everyone who can safely get off the ship is rescued and once rescued provide the rescuers with ever bit of information you have and then travel immediately to the ship overseeing the rescue efforts providing them with any information they need, answer any questions about the accident, and what you can do to assist in the rescue efforts!" 59:57 - "Its fittingly ironic that the sinking of this ship and the government's handling of the disaster managed to sink this woman's career and government which tried to downplay the incident where high schoolers were told to wait and drowned by the time rescuers reached them!"

  • @MegCazalet
    @MegCazalet 6 месяцев назад

    In addition to this channel, I recommend Bright Sun Films videos about the Oceanos and Costa Concordia.

  • @cale115
    @cale115 6 месяцев назад +1

    2 to 1 passenger to crew, holy shit, you would think it was a sailing ship

  • @davidhatton583
    @davidhatton583 4 месяца назад +1

    The reality is None of these men should have been Captains… they were All more concerned about their own reputation and survival than the major responsibility given them…. Although the Korean one was certainly screwed by his company too

  • @moxavenger
    @moxavenger 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nicely done stories. Sad Sewol story.

  • @rw2382
    @rw2382 6 месяцев назад +1

    There's no crying on the bridge!

  • @rillawhat8142
    @rillawhat8142 6 месяцев назад +4

    The first captain can definitely get a job as a policeman in America.
    He can completely disregard his job requirements, risk people's lives, and then simply get moved to another department! 😞

  • @Tom-sg4iv
    @Tom-sg4iv 4 месяца назад

    Not to forget Cpt. Hugo Larsen of the Scandinavian Star, saying he was the last man. Meanwhile rescueres see people in the burning windows.

  • @simba00784
    @simba00784 3 месяца назад +1

    Just fyi, a hard turn in a car the back wheels DO NOT follow the path of the front wheels in a car

  • @bazra19
    @bazra19 6 месяцев назад

    Re Concordia: You also have to factor in the SQUAT, the action of the bow and stern dipping below normal depth, also the role putting more vessel on one side into the water. Lose furniture and fittings, in my day all furniture was made fast to the deck, why not today.

  • @elzach0
    @elzach0 6 месяцев назад +8

    Currently laying some logs in the toilet, great timing 👍

    • @entr0pix
      @entr0pix 6 месяцев назад +2

      bro????

    • @borisstanislav4560
      @borisstanislav4560 6 месяцев назад +1

      TMI sir or madam.

    • @oldmategio
      @oldmategio 6 месяцев назад +1

      same here bud cheers

    • @elzach0
      @elzach0 6 месяцев назад

      @@borisstanislav4560 they were real rusty logs too. Took a bit of manpower to flush them out the line so to say.

  • @myparceltape1169
    @myparceltape1169 6 месяцев назад

    RoRo ferries can have water sloshing from side to side on the car deck, like the Herald of Free Enterprise.
    But I have a photo from 1965 of the car deck of a ferry where a one foot high walkway runs between both of the two lines of two vehicle lanes. It sailed from England to one of the continental ports, the photographer's destination was Germany.

  • @mariecolette170
    @mariecolette170 Месяц назад

    Everyone in my home came rushing into my room after I screamed “WAT THE F…!” After I heard the words “Captain wats his name from Oceanus got no jail time and was given command of a ferry” 😮
    Every ship I’ve ever been on always have Greek captains and crew. They’re always super professional, friendly, gracious and extremely good looking. I can’t believe this “captain” acted like such a douche and got no punishment. Guess he got lucky that the entertainment personnel did his job for him and no lives were lost because of them..emphasis on them!

  • @katewebber1131
    @katewebber1131 18 дней назад

    So basically in a lot of situations like this question or ignore the captain. Sad very sad. All those poor people.