Crazy A$$ Professor Terminated For 'Reprehensible' Comments About The Evaluation Black Students
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Georgetown Law has fired Professor Sandra Sellers after she was recorded disparaging Black students on a Zoom call with another professor. Video of their conversation was reportedly leaked on social media by a student.
The law school initially said there would be an investigation but today, Sandra Sellers was fired. Georgetown Law Dean Bill Treanor released an updated statement this afternoon saying, " As I wrote to you last night, I am appalled that two members of our faculty engaged in a conversation that included reprehensible statements concerning the evaluation of Black students. I have further reviewed the incident and have now spoken to Professor Sellers and Professor Batson, giving each the opportunity to provide any additional context. I informed Professor Sellers that I was terminating her relationship with Georgetown Law effective immediately."
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She tried to resign, so she could move on to another school.
That law school dean fired her ass so now she’s radioactive to any other law school
@CENTRAL LIVEWIRE That’s why termination is the only recourse bc that stays on your record
@@TheLuscious exactly.
@@TheLuscious As well she should be!
She will get a job at Yale.or at college in Virginia they love ppl like her
I'll be so happy when Black Folks as a whole,, wake up and stop trying to gain "equality" in a system that doesn't even see us as a human being. We as a People Group have enough finances, creativity, clout and know how to do this thing on our own. 🖤🤎🖤🤎
by pointing out a something you know is true.
I have thought that all of my life
@@deepee4323 how do you know the race of her "lover?" How do you even know if that is or isn't her "lover?" Also, go on and Google Black Wallstreet.
Say that for all the hershel walkers in the back
I disagree, they know we are human but out of hatred or jealousy they treat us so. Like a man who beats his wife, he knows she is human but because of whatever he looks down on her.
I love it when they get caught these people are everywhere
This is sick !!
What about the ones who were not caught!!
Yes they are.
The problem is that you have pay your hard earned dollars for a quality education, and you get BS like this. Refund please!
It is not only in LAW school, it is in everything and everywhere !
Everything and everywhere? Does that include YOUR behavior?
Everywhere! Even Meghan Markle couldn’t escape it. This false wicked ideology is permeated throughout the globe.
@@greysea9807 what behavior would you be referencing to, noticing a hate filled people’s actions on a daily basis? You know nothing about the person you’re commenting towards so how do you know their behavior?
It starts in high school and lower grades. I remember our high school counselors trying to discourage us from going to college.
@@greysea9807 enjoy YOUR success!!!
She's not the only white so-called professor who feels that way. They were Both very comfortable having the conversation.
That's right.
True. It is a bit baffling to me how with all the racial injustice issues coming to the forefront in recent years, a veteran law professor would think such blatantly racist comments were ok to record on video.
@@peaceseeker9927 Typical thinking patterns of these people. Ugh!
@Golden1is Me He sure did but kept it low.
feels what way?
When I was in grad school I had a professor who kept giving me a B+ on papers while my peers got A’s for sub par papers.
One of my white classmates and myself switched papers- she submitted mines and I submitted hers. She got an A on my paper and I got a B on her paper ( she had previously got straight A’s and the structure etc was the exact same)
I called a meeting with the academic director and demanded an explanation
My professor was hotter then fish grease when she had to not only give me my A but change all my other grades.
♥️
Quick thinking. I must learn your ways. Glad you were able to expose her!!!
I had a similar challenge.
You're definitely not the first black person to do a switch test, probably a right of passage for all black folk before hitting 30 smh
I had that happened to me before also and used the same method. The difference was I wrote the exact same paper and the only change was the names. Guess who got excellent feedback and who needed revisions.
Now they need to evaluate all of ger Black students grades and recommendations or lack of.
I tried this. Backed up my complaint time and time again. Took it to the student union took it to the 'independent body' and I lost. What I discovered later is that the governing body were made up of people who had association and ties to university's - not one on the board were from outside the institutions structure!
THE WHITES BEEN PUTTING THE HEAVY METAL “LEAD” IN VACCINES FOR BLACK CHILDREN SINCE THE 1940’s. LEAD KEEPS PEOPLE DUMB AND WHITE PEOPLE STILL MAKE SURE LEAD IS PUT IN THE VACCINES. I SHOULD KNOW, I HAD LEAD IN MY VACCINE WHEN I WAS A CHILD. REMEMBER THE SAYING, “Get the lead out”!
How did she get a professorship anyway? She doesn't seem smart or really brilliant.
@@alexstone3822
The irony of that comment lol
Good! I'm glad she got fired! Goodbye!
And she's one of those that will say that there is no systemic racism.
Great point. Denial is a main strategy for racists.
@@peaceseeker9927 what was the racist part of her statement?
@@robinsss You post this so-called question on every black site like we don’t know who you are. Go somewhere the answer to the question is You
black people drop out of college at a high rate, everything is not systemic racism
@@lisaprude4159 good answer
These folks are going hard, willing to throw away everything to be evil.
I've made that exact observation as well. 😒
Self-Destruction! 😎✌🏽❤
It is evil to say the nba is dominated by 6 eight black men.
Damn that's true and I won't be condemned to hell saddling up next to these people.
( if you can call them people because they seem inhuman)
It's the white way of life, they hate their money and home but hate us more so they do stuff like this.
Gtown is too damn expensive for black students to put up with this mess. The student is the customer not the professor.
She didn't say anything that black people didn't know they say when they think nobody's listening.
She didn't.
But coming from her shows her being complicit is part of the implications.
I'm sure there were white students at those same ranks yet she chose to focus on the African American students which I'm sure are fewer in number at that school.
It's ridiculous!
@@blackberry4life482 I was thinking the same thing. All white students don't make straight A's. I'm sure she has more than one marginal white student.
@@pisces363
Exactly
So the bs she's perpetuating really doesn't even make sense.
And at first I was thinking nah she shouldn't have gotten fired... This is a teachable moment.
But then I was like, Nope... She knows exactly what she's peddling!
@@blackberry4life482 It just goes to show what she really believes. It's clear that she thinks most black students just don't have the intellectual capacity to do better. Those that do are "exceptions" to the rule in her mind.
@@pisces363
Exactly
I can't with these neanderthals!
Even though we have agency, she was to guide her students in the way she wanted them to go. Maybe, she should improve upon her teaching ability. Who evaluates her?
THAT PART!
👏👏👏TELL IT!!!
Sandra Frazier isn't everyone one their best behaviour when being evaluated? So of course this lump of ignorance probably got a good evaluation as she hid her bias.
@B Pedersen Firstly, I personally don't think you should assume that Black people may not be at the level required at this particular institution. The fact they passed the LSAT, most definitely, qualifies them for entry. Secondly, the teacher's teaching style, methodology, and expectations also are taken into consideration and should be stated and exemplified during the course of instruction; e.g., class syllabus, examples, etc. Thirdly, I went to Google Scholar and searched for: 'How to be successful in law school.' A plethora of articles were retrieved. Here's one such article: " Yale Rev. L. & Soc. Action 71 (1970-1971)
How the Law School Fails: A Polemic". Lastly, I believe it is unfair to make a blanketed statement about a particular ethnic group without knowing all the facts.
@@sandrafrazier7967 My goodness, she was speaking about the blacks in HER CLASS.
“Intellectual work filtered through the lens of race”👏🏿👍🏿
Every group of students falls into a distribution of performance in the class. There is the top of the class and bottom of the class based on their performance based on objective standards. A teacher expresses a feeling of angst when the bottom of the class is disproportionately black. That angst likely comes from an outsider accusing her of grading students based on race and pointing to the distribution of black students in the distribution as evidence. Instead the school fires the professor for expressing her feelings.
Could it be schools and students are "mismatched" as Thomas Sowell often puts it? No, instead this woman's OBSERVATION is evidence of her guilt and the implication that the school is better off without a professor making these kinds of observations will benefit the school and it's students.
What a bunch of morons.
Why didn't both of them get fired. They were both having the discussion.
I agree. I wonder if there is more to this video than what was shown in this one. Perhaps he did not make a comment that was caught in the recording, but we at least saw how he nodded a little bit to concur with her statements.
She's a woman. White men still get benefit of a doubt, usually. Of course, she said it, so there's also that part.
Professor Carr laid it OUT. And trust me, it’s happening all over the education system. It’s insidious.
Yes! I've heard many stories
The rabbit hole is deeper and wider than most people know...
Very much so!!
Most people must not have been paying attention for the last 150 years.
Rabbit hole been a Volcano for a while now.🌋
Snake pit...
Black people know the deal but the ones in denial get the most shine. Biden and Kamala let us know long before the Election, they don't have our best interests at heart and still got the majority of their votes from Black Democrats.
Black people have always voted for the lesser of two evils, so why should that change now.
When I was in college, I had a professor insist that I plagiarized an essay that I submitted. Although I vehemently denied plagiarism, she gave my superlative work an F. I took her before a review board to challenge my grade, and I dared anyone on the board to find even one phrase that I had penned in another author's work. I was subsequently given an A. She just didn't want to believe that a black person could produce such high quality work. It's disgusting!
I'm so sorry that the professor put you through this
God bless
Glad you persevered. I was the given the wrong compound for my Organic chemistry lab in college. After weeks I realized something was funny and discovered the teacher had written the wrong compound down for me. I could have failed the course. Glad I spoke up like you. I also ended up with an A in my course and hence they wanted me to get a masters in Chemistry as well.
@@trulimajor9773 That’s wonderful and congratulations to you getting your Masters in Chemistry. Its very interesting when we break negative stereotypes , it seems there be some professors who stand out as they will put more energy into breaking us compared to mentoring , uplifting students .
that's what they do, so we just get the knowledge and could careless about grades....
I had one like that too!!! He said i CHEATED on my Exams to GET OUT Early!! I did ask to Reschedule my Exam cause of My DAD passing away on day of Exam!!! I just couldn't concentrate!!!
I did take the Exam and Professor FAILED ME Anyway!!! What Makes me Sad is that this Professor KNEW MY DAD!!!
These types of implicit and explicit biases start from kindergarten and throughout our entire lives. It's exhausting...
Grow up
@@marohan Learn to spell. I saw your other comment and it barely made sense.
How do you know she was being bias? Most law school chases are graded anonymously (not sure about her class)? It seemed to me she saw a trend and was expressing concern about that trend. That's not being bias.
@@littlegothgirl8869 i read your comments as well. Look up the kid who had a .32 gpa. At the top of his class. You n roland would be better served. P.s. i graduated top of my class. Dont have a RUclips grammar doctorate.
Exactly! It's starts immediately upon entering their education system. Then we wonder why our students give up on education. Smh.
This is not their first conversation like this. They both felt comfortable talking.
Absolutely!!
Yeah - because they weren't doing anything wrong.
@Howard Hardy Trump didn’t these racist been here!
@@mbengland ooh yeah if ur a whites racist who 👏🏽 white supremacy smfh
Exactly, it's dinner table conversation for them
I think it’s funny. She’s a professor who isn’t smart enough in this day and age, not to say shit like that in a meeting that may or may not be recorded. Obviously, she’s one of the “low ones” as well.
My thoughts exactly. At least her fellow colleagues know not to blurt out certain statements at the wrong time and place.
@MD JG Yep. Just because someone has a title and a doctorate does not mean intelligence. Have encountered enough who are just as this woman and worse.
No. she doesn't care, do you really think she cares about what a black person thinks? Give me a break.
🤣🤣🤣
It's arrogance, not simply ignorance. They can be smart as anything, but they think they are above investigation, above accountability.
Multiply her by Millions! IN THAT CONTINUING PLAGUES OUR YOUTH!
do our kids perform in chicago or detroit schools or baltimore
@@marohan the reply was non specific more generalizing. more on targeting the failure of applications toward are youth in misidentified competency. She was open in the expression of her opinion; in that exposure bias was her character. Hope to never see her in a court room as representation.
When 74 million Americans voted for a white supremacist you know we had a problem.
Yes biden was voted until the people who say yall n if you dont vote for me you aint black. The victims who cant even use the internet according to him.
@@marohan Huh? 😕 They are both racist so any partisan argument of which president is more racist is idiotic.
How many students she failed on purpose?🤔🤔🤔
It happens. I had a professor I went to and ask for help in the class about assignment. And needing more understanding on a subject. No help no study group. Still failed me flat out. I chalked it. It happened again in a different class to a different black. He was not talking it on chin. He pointed out the professor would not help him to understand this very hard subject. After I believe the school decided to let him go. He ran into me. While he was working a study hall shift which I had never seen him do unto he got in trouble.
Can you say without question, it was done, because you're black, or was it either a) school policy (crazy, if so) or b) just an uncaring teacher?
I worked in college with professors. The opposite is generally true. I had several professors tell me to grade the black students more easily since they were not as prepared coming in the school as some of the white students. This was at a major highly ranked public university. While you can find examples of crappy professors, 9 out of 10 go out of their way to help black students. And help anyone as long as they are trying like any student.
Thank you because I always tell my grandson about this how many of these white teachers mark the answers on test papers wrong when they was right how many didn't get to graduate because of people like them
I want to know down thru the decades how many white teachers fail us, how many millions of us!!! How can they repay them that died, us that are still alive, just how can they repay us?
Even is the highest level of education , they still find a way to water down our accomplishments !
Why did you put a space before the comma? lulz
@@jbizzybrown8847 Just by mistake
@@peterpoint-dujour3299 What does "Even is the highest level of education" mean?
College
This is what Black students have to deal with all day everyday in AMERICA'S colleges and UNIVERSITY'S.
As Roland did....It's EXTREMELY important for black people to keep records at work and to document....document...document. People may have their feelings about Omarosa but she was smart enough to document her time in the trump administration.
Omarosa, though? Lol She was a willing participant in the duties of that administration up until the point when she got kicked out of the white house.
@@littlegothgirl8869 True.....but she was smart enough to keep records.
Dr Carr’s CRITICAL THINKING analysis on this topic is straight 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I agree
@Slique 2000 I agree. Racist acts can be covered up with another racist act. However when u have to ARTICULATE your racist act that makes for accountability or clarity
Definitely. He basically told all of us that this way of thinking and reaction happens so often and it goes unchallenged
@@mrcead facts!!! & now there’s a SLIGHT reckoning (slight bcuz it isn’t as sever as it can be) they’re gaslighting our ppl with terms like cancel culture & Karen is the new N word bs. Dr. Carr is what our ppl need
She was trying to figure out WHY black students underperform. We need teachers like her!
This is why I did my college courses online with no profile pic.
The sad part is you had to even ‘think’ of hiding your appearance.
Yup, me too. It's ridiculous that we have to do this just to get a fair shake. Smh.
🙄 you guys are crazy
Hmmm, I listened to her words carefully, and I honestly do not see anything wrong with what she said. If after an investigation, they find out she was purposefully failing her black students (she did say some fail , not all), then she should be jailed even. But now let's also look at the other side of the coin. If it turns out she was being transparent with grading her students, then we need to look within ourselves and ask why the black students were underperforming in her class or course. Its easier to look at this always as a race issue but sometimes, it might not be. Black people as well as other races, can also have in themselves traits that hold them back. As a Nigerian American, I hate to say that I've seen this more often. We need to not see everything as an attack so that we as a people are open to feedback that can enable us grow. If every negative statistics out there on the black communities, is an attack and no further need is seen to truly see if there is any truth to it, and adequate steps are taken by us to correct our issues that plague our communities, we are brewing another form of wahala within our communities.
I study law and I'm not surprised by her comments.
Please elaborate if you don't mind.
what was the racist part of her statement?
I've noticed with my personal experience that most individual's in the academia community especially law or legal studies do truly believe and treat others as subordinate or with inferiority not just race but gender too
@@rakishaeverett4636
Agreed
I definitely found it to be that they are very condescending.
The get very high minded.
@Rakisha Everett, good luck and great job. Come out and give these SOBs hell my beautiful sister!
Hahaha! All of that from a lady who can't even tech well enough to make sure her Zoom call was private. It's too rich. It also begs the question of how many others in her position think like them and how many were potentially unfairly graded as a result of these biases.
Absolutely. That should be investigated
Really though! Most people like her think and speak this way... what's good is that they are simply being asinine and imbecilic....
😆 😆
Well worded and written Andrea Benton
Don't downgrade for "axe" vs "ask" and "they" vs "their."
Here's one problem. It's the teachers responsibility to TEACH. In order to do that they have to treat each student as an individual. Many learn/think differently and come from different learning environments. I grew up in the inner city. Impoverished community. When I went from middle school to high school it was as if I was beamed to a different galaxy. It took almost two years for me to adjust. When I graduated and entered corporate america I was beamed to a different galaxy.
Second problem - for some teachers, black folks simply ARE whatever they think. There can be no success there in their mind.
i'm pretty sure...whenever those black students questioned her during class, she would've just seen them as being rude, dumb, etc.
bye, felicia.
Exactly. I'm an educator and you have to take a holistic approach. Everyone does not think the same. Education in general needs to be restructured because it favors a European point of view.
@Tango Salsa Heard.
I don’t think we’re behind as much as every student just learns differently and good teachers lean into that instead of forcing students into some kind of cookie cutter mode of operation
NO NO NO NO YOUR PARENTS SUPPOSE TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM SOLVED ALREADY. ANOTHER ITS OUT FAULTH FOR LETTING OTHERS TEACH US
@Tango Salsa go to 12:00 in the video. Excellent explanation provided, into the ways that “being behind” can manifest and come into play, related to this situation.
"This has nothing to do with race"
ALL WHITE PEOPLE
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice , umm ahhm umm ahhm umm um shame on you again."
- George W Bush.
You could see the other professor cringe. He wanted ZERO parts of that discussion.
Yes, but had it not been leaked he would NOT have said anything and people like him ARE APART OF THE PROBLEM BCUZ THEY SIT ON THE SIDELINE QUIETLY
@@TaurusHere EXACTLY!!
@@TaurusHere thank you.. if he was that uncomfortable he could have corrected her right then and there. And reported her himself. But he didn't... He wasn't uncomfortable about the comment.. he was uncomfortable that the comment was stated publicly. Big difference!!!
Yes! He should be fired too! It’s cringe that he didn’t say anything!
It didn’t appear that he cringed, it appears that he has a resting b**** face.
This is what a lawyer (white) told me after finish reading my evaluation by a paralegal (white woman) who didn't like me,
"This type of evaluation cam ruin your career."
That was her intention. It was personal.
He took a blank evaluation, re-did it, and gave me nothing but praise.
The legal field is brutal!
Does it also means that she’s been deliberately failing some because they were black?
Of course, sad
They should go back and check for bias with her black students grades
No
"Black students tend toward social justice" GEE I WONDER WHY, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE
Point taken 👍🙏🙏
Thanks, Caterfree10, for putting that on the table, I'm an accomplice.
Read several other replies before yours and yours was the first to state the obvious.
For me, your reply said it all and nothing else need be said. B1.
This proves that even “educated” people are ignorant. I am glad she got caught.
What did she say that was ignorant?
@@mbengland If she didn’t say something improper (which was not fully shown in the video)... she wouldn’t have tried quitting first. I would have fought if I knew I was being made up to be someone I was not (specially as a law professor). It’s noticeable she’s had this type of conversation before... that her black students don’t score as high as others. It’s a deeper conversation than a RUclips comment. Have a good week.
@@ereal4850 She tried quitting first so she could find a new job. I'm with you though - I would have fought if I was being painted as something I'm not. Not everyone is principled like that though. And it's getting harder for people to stand up to the Woke Mob. I mean - Piers Morgan just got canceled for saying he thinks Meghan Markle is lying. Which is something I thought anyone with half a brain knew. Crazy world. Have a great week too.
@@mbengland I think she knew as a professor she made a mistake BUT she is still too young to fully retire. So she did try to quit her job to get a new one. I’ve always pay attention to what are the issues in the world... as an American I am not a fan of monarchy’s. I do not believe in the old world (it’s history but I do not agree with it). It’s not about being ‘woke’ it’s about having consequences to your actions... I do not like Piers Morgan he is not a legit journalist (I had journalists courses at university) he is a GOSSIP columnist. So I do not have respect for that.
Why are so many people surprised by some of the of the things some people say
You act like only some white people are this racist
@@TheLuscious You'd be correct! Not all of them are. If you really believe that, then you must also believe most, if not ALL of the stereotypes about Black people. There are kind, decent people, from EVERY group. That's simple logic, even in this wicked world...Peace.
THE SURPRISED ONES WILL SELL YOU OUT
because u probably say it 2,
Especially people who worship rappers.
Book smart and common sense smart are two entirely different things.
For sure. I have met many book smart folks but when it comes to common sense their left on a ledge.
Momma use to say that educated fools are plentiful, book smarts but no sense, she did not lie.
And some people don't have either one, they believe that racism and bigotry will get them far in life and that within itself is why they do what they do, now I'm going to be truthful, they do what they do because it was taught to them, people don't grow up being racist, it's taught, and for her to be an educator makes it so much worse, even in the streets- you can't look up to someone who's downgrading you,(example: law enforcement) and you'll never respect someone who disrespected you, no matter the ethnicity or race, so it's a clear matter of disrespect and bias against someone who never even hurt them, once America accepts the fact that we're all inclusive,then this country will be great, and not until then, because these racist people need some mental evaluation and medicine for the ailments of racism.
What the hell?? I’m a public school board member and we recognize that we have had a higher percentage of African American students who are struggling with proficiency. This is occurring because we live in a city that has been ranked in the top ten WORST places for African Americans to live (based on differences in income, unemployment rates, and incarceration). So we are seeing the results of *generational systemic racism* and *generational systemic poverty* CAUSED by past decisions on moving blue collar, middle class industry AWAY from our black neighborhoods (and, yes, we also have pockets of almost completely segregated neighborhoods), past political leadership, and continued implicit racism. We are trying to END this cycle by supporting our African American students with INTENSIVE extra help in core standards. And we’re seeing CHANGE! HUGE change! The thought that our kids, after working themselves up to the first generation partaking in post-secondary education in their families, to then just be *beat down* at the collegiate level is heartbreaking and infuriating 🤬🤬🤬🤬!!!
If they will not treat you right,then don't expect them to teach you right.
With her time off she can research black history and black children genius there are many starting at age 4 yrs old ! She be surprised to find out that A black women Dr. Gladly inventor of GPS takes a lot a math, cell phone Video consoles, etc ect
The Hidden figure movie showcased the 3 black female mathematicians at NASA....who largely contributed to the first visit of the first guy to space or the moon.
what does that have to do with what she said
@@marohan it's fyi
I didn't know GPS was created by a black woman. Thank you!
It easy for them to just put black students down so sad.
Roland good information about this topic and as having a African american son in college studying to be a machiacl engineer I was having this same conversation with him unbelievable
he probably agrees with the professor.
And it's not like there's not a lot of black teachers or people who went to school to be a teacher or even professor the problem is the hiring process there's just not hiring us.
Racism... you just talked all the way around that fact
That i do know racism!
I was also thinking of a another fact that is at hand as well especially in my city
My thought was somewhere else.
Even tho my comment didnt match the segment having more of us in different jobs are just as important...not talking around a fact that is another fact👀
@@imaginethat5115 and why are we not in those jobs.... racism
This is old news. Pffft
Excellent point!
Pre -School, Elementary, Middle School, High School, Trade School, College, Universities are all the same you all on how other nations looks at Black ppls. My 13 yr old received the highest reading score throughout the Elementary school she was attending when she was in 8th grade and her principal refused to recognize her even though he always say to the students about the importance of reading but still during her graduation the principal still didn't recognize her efforts but he recognized students with good attendance. Smh. My child's father and I awarded our child ourself and explained to our daughter to always continue to strive and stay focus because we as a nation will always be hated upon whether it's good or bad.
if the blacks are doing badly, it's because she is not teaching them well.
☕️🐸
its college, there is a certain level of expectations
But, she magically teaches the whites, differently.
@@liecrusher3506 she speaks their language-so to speak. and makes no effort to communicate in ways that will help her non white students.
@@rondaallen7211 No.
She teaches the subjects that she's paid to. Of course, it would help if she or other professors assist those needing help, but this has nothing to do with her general observation, which most of you here, are in great denial of.
The fact remains, even with help, you're going to have top, middle and bottom students, which sadly, are mostly black.
To Dr Carr"s point of holding these law professors with intellectual bias accountable. There's case law such as Batson v Kentucky which deals peremptory challenges to which a prosecutor can select a all white jury. Now the law has been expanded that the prosecutor not only must state why s/he struck a black prospective juror but must also explain why they didnt use a strike against some1 with the same/similar background. Acts of racism is 1 thing but having to EXPLAIN your REASONING for racism is a whole different monster.
Astute observation.
You are so right about what you said
We need our own oversight committees. We need to have seats on the boards of every institution. Oversight, participation and control must be our goals!
so you can steal some money like Maxine and Jesse?
Welcome to the world of the Black professional.
They stay on code! Imagine how much more are there that u don't know about!
This is very common. With the Advent of social media I now know why I got the cold shoulder from several of my professors during my college years over 25 years ago.
I remember in the 11th grade, my English teacher gave me a 90 on an essay assignment. I looked at the front and back for comments which would show where I lost the 10 points. There were no comments on the paper. I went to her desk to ask why did I lose 10 points? She shooed me away and said I should be happy with the 90. I remember being pissed about it.
I’m African but born and raised in the Netherlands. When I scored the highest grade in chemistry class teacher straight up said to my face’ I didn’t think it would be you to get the highest score’ !! I was the only black except for mixed race boy and Chinese girl everyone else was white . Then found out the Asian girl who everyone made fun of her Dutch coz her family immigrated few years ago came next. On my last year I scored lower on my chemistry class the computer registered a score that wasn’t mine , she tried to give me a score that wasn’t on the original exam papers . Luckily I kept all of my exam papers and took it to the principal he demanded to see her computer and low behold my original score was there. She forgot to delete the old scores . Needless to say she wasn’t fired she said she made a mistake but I knew the truth.
black students are graded different, crazy how ppl never noticed where the stop really starts which is schools, these ppl have the power to pass u or fail u & its always some ps, like a essay or project & it keeps u from reaching your highest level smh
I attended a predominantly white high school. And there were a hand full of black kids there. We had our awards ceremony and the valedictorian's name was announced. Suddenly the room turned quiet as a black girl walked up on stage to accept her award. And we're talking about an auditorium that was packed with kids and parents. You talk about people that were shocked. You could literally hear a pin drop when she walked on stage to accept her award as the smartest person in senior class. To this day it still makes me laugh thinking about it.
@Barnabas Collins It's crazy, but sadly true that these things happen.
Now that I'm older I can identify specific racially biased issues I've experienced in High School. A guidance counselor (The Chair of the Honor Society) tried to prevent me from being inducted into the National Honors Society, as the only black inductee of my Senior Class, due to the grading error of my Junior English teacher. The error affected my GPA by a thenth of a point, and she was adamant about the deadline being passed for the induction. My teacher (a white male) even admitted to the error and vouched for me. It took my parents meeting with the lady and the Principal to set it straight. This lady really did not want me being the only black student graduating with honors. And to make it even more crazy, out class president was a black girl, who graduated with math Honors. They refuse to acknowledge academic excellence from us.
@@Miss_Dani_DWhit unfortunately some things never change. And if you stick your head in the sand and pretend that nothing is wrong they never will.
This happens in science and engineering a lot too.
Yes. It’s like their racism refuses them to see African Americans any better outside their negative stereotypes. When these negative stereotypes are broken, racist lash out
Her termination bankrupts any pension she had coming
she was adjunct, no pension.
@@misterj3133 Either way we got what we wanted. This racist unemployed and radioactive to all other legit law schools
@@misterj3133 :
So how many years has she been adjunct? Was she tenured in the past and went adjunct after retiring? She is of age and appears that this may have been her long time career .
This is happening in not only academic but in professional culture. Robert is not wrong.
Our children are subjected to systemic racism from kindergarten to college and even further in the workforce. We have to be willing to expose these people on EVERY level or it will continue. She most definitely deserved to be terminated and should seek psychological help.
So first, "lower ones". Anyone that is able to get into Georgetown is not a "lower one". Second, if the "lower ones" are not doing well in your class, you as a Professor should have office hours and encourage them to set up appointments. Third, you mean to tell me she has no other students that are performing "sub par" in her class? Why single out a certain race when referring to the students? It is clear at the least she has some bias and she sounds like a bigot. If some students are not performing well, I do not see what race has to do with that. Lastly, racism is everywhere including HBCUs. The school did the right thing by firing her.
At HBCU's it would be categorized as selective bias vs racial bias. AA's themselves have levels of bias behavior against one another. Sadly, we are a splintered race.
Like the old saying go-“What is your name when the door is closed?”
Now fire the man she was talking to. He didn't call her on it. Does he agree? Check his grading pattern.
This was a conversation of two people expressing their negative thoughts of analyzing her class grades. It’s when their thoughts affect students learning or grades then they should be fired. I would take it a step further and seek civil action against the professor if possible.
Yes but they must find that evidence first. Hope they do too.
The right complexion gets you protection...💯🤫🤬
As a 5th Grade ELA teacher, I can unequivocally state that cultural bias is present in the grading system; with or without a rubric system.
She’ll run for President and we’ll all drink the kool-aid! That’s how much confidence I have in the system...
Even in the work place, black workers are evaluated differently
Only a fool will let the enemy educate his or her children.
One down millions more to go??? Thanks
The bottom line is there are many black students who are behind and that is by DESIGN! But y'all going to completely ignore 9:16!!! Y'all need to stop!
Who ignored what Professer Carr said at 9:16?
as someone said, michelle obama was made fun of for getting good grades and called white, that is the design you need to focus on
She wanted to resign so she could go get her a job at Notre Dame. These people should be fired and not let resign every time they get caught.
I know I had professors who would mess with my grades. They marked guestions wrong when they were right. They like to give different versions of test to students. The versions have different complexities....
Excellent. Dr. Carr's insight was key and the example Roland gave was solid evidence. No surprise here. The foolish Law professor who was fired was speaking the mind of the institution itself, not just her own.
Serves her right!!!
GREAT DAY IN THE MORNING !!!
5 yrs ago I got out the military & enrolled at my local community college, I had to take remedial algebra. Me & a few students stayed after class one day to get extra help from the instructor and she took us to a teachers lounge. Inside were to other remedial math professors of African decent having a discussion about how their students saying how slow and stupid they were because they could not understand the basic concepts of mathematics & never can get 100% turn in on their homework assignments & questioned how they were able to graduate high school w/o knowing these remedial concepts...F.Y.I. The campus was in the Bronx & the students were black & Hispanic...so what’s the point? The point is white professors are not the only ones having this discussion & THE TRUTH is black students are not being educated properly in public schools (ex. the Baltimore student that finished above his class with a .13 gpa) & these universities are trying to meet a diversity quotas instead of students that should be there on merit....now that the Georgetown professor is gone, do you think those black students she was referring to will all of sudden finish at the top of there class? NO, all you did was put a band-aide over a gunshot wound that the white professor did not create...now with logic & reasoning, tell me where I’m wrong?
I totally agree with you. I am a black man in Atlanta and attended a PWI in Illinois for undergrad and I am changing careers and going into nursing at a 2 year institution. The program calls for college algebra, I took calculus and statistics in undergrad but they could not substitute them for college algebra, go figure, so I took college algebra. The other black students looked at me like I was some kind of Savant when I would make 100% on tests. Affirmative action has hurt us and this push for diversity quotas is even worse.
What more evidence do BP need to realize they need to get their passports and research places to live outside Amerikkka
This is why we should go to HBCUs...
My daughter’s 1st grade teacher at Dillworth elementary in Charlotte NC told my daughter that she will become of nothing. My daughter had a speech and learning disability. 24 years later my daughter has an A.A Degree with honers from Cabarrus community college because HBCU would not accept her low ACT scores. She went on and got into UNC Chapel Hill and now getting ready to graduate with her B.S in 2021. She is a hard worker and determined and that’s what counts.
let the the church say amen
Dam! Professor Greg was dead on.
It's amazing that they don't THINK! We're watching and observing them . . . too.
Ok I can go on and on about my experience at penn state as a “black” woman... My experience was just the antithesis of what this prof proclaimed. I was so discriminated against I should’ve been a multimillionaire.. I wrote an excellent assignment and the envy could hear a pin drop in the classroom after reading the piece. Same thing happened during my speech in 101. I had wanted to change my major to horticulture and was discouraged snarlingly by the dean of that program... I’ll stop here. What a freaking glass ceiling! Pioneering through a backwoods community full of subtle racism in 1987! (My parents who were business owners paid for my education out of pocket- no loans. But I was ntl stereotyped with the black pop as getting a free ride.)
Even if you did get loans that shit is anything but free
I would have absolutely loved to be a fly on the wall when she got fired lol. I bet she didn't expect to get fired over her conversation with her fellow disgusting human being she was on the call with. He needs to nd fired right along with her for not telling her to stop it now.
Why be appalled that they feel that way? At least her position is clear...can’t make her change.
Clear?
Now how many students has she failed or given a lower grade because of her bias towards Black students?
They need to take her pension if she got one there no telling what that witch has done
Yea, the truth is now "reprehensible ".
Dr. Karen 😬
Someone told on her and recorded it, so everybody involved wasn't complicit.
Dr Carr had time today... love him
My Man is THA BIZ!!! RIGHT? 😂😂😂
When I was in law school, we submitted papers anonymously to avoid possible bias.
I always thought you went to school to learn.
How can you be a superstar learning something new, unless you already know the work.
OMG! This is explains why I was humiliated in a writing class at Georgetown. The teacher had us write and then wrote 2 lists on the blackboard. 1 list for people who could stay, and another for those who had to leave the class. It was so embarrassing.
Dear Professor Sellers,
In liue of your "angst", we have taken steps to address your problem by offering you assistance. Specifically by removing you from our campus.
This sort of thing happens at every level.
Hate and racism is in every fibre of them. The other guy agreed with her, he should go too.
The stats bare out what she said. Everything is not racism
@@marohan Everything is about racism and guess who decided that?
Black people protest against racism. White people protest for the right to be racist in comfort. Their outrage only comes out when its pointed out and not the act of racism itself. Foh.
@@goonern4644 black professors say the same thing. Time 2 be honest with yourself
“I hate to say this - I end up having this, you know, angst every semester - that a lot of my lower ones are Blacks. Happens almost every semester,” Sellers says.
“Mmm hmm,” Batson says and nods.
“And it’s like, oh, come on,” Sellers continues. “Get some really good ones, but there are also usually some that are just plain at the bottom. It drives me crazy.”
“Yeah,” Batson says as Sellers shakes her head.
“So, I feel bad,” Sellers adds.
@@marohan This is my point exactly " time to be honest with yourself" says you. Well how about this for an idea, you first. You have no trouble seeing truth, justice and stats where its convenient until it's not. Hanging on your every word is what got us here. We're not listening anymore. Please understand that?
@@goonern4644 that is the problem, when you listen, you learn. A safe space is not going 2 solve that.
She was being honest and actually sounded concerned