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Two points: 1 Why do you think the Romans didn’t use flame throwers in battle - set the entire Germans or Celtic tribes they were fighting on fire, that would have meant instant victory, a far safer method of fighting then the close range hand to hand engagements with the risk of injury and death ? 2 According to Julias Caesar’s account of battles with the Germanic tribes he states that they had little body protection, other then the shield they carried which was soon rendered unusable, wore skin which only party covered their vast bodies leaving them exposed to Roman sword, archers and spears. Your video suggests otherwise.
Through action,a man becomes a hero. Through death,a hero becomes a legend. Through time,a legend becomes a Myth. And by learning from the Myth,a man takes action.
@@davidstewart5811 I believe that even those a specific quote is attribued to are not actually the first ones to have said so. In the numerous thousand of years that preceded their existence on Earth, many others before them have very probably said the same thing - but in different terms.
People have survived far worse then an arrow or bullet to the shoulder. Just look at most if not all our Medal of honor awardees. People have survived having IEDs take their leg or arm or several limbs. Some have even received prosthetic limbs & returned to combat & the military or police force. People including small kids get shot everyday in most liberal cities & even toddlers have survived gun shots what's an arrow.
Not a historical battle perhaps but the fighting is pretty damn close to actual hand to hand fighting- Anyone who has ever experienced a stampede of horses or cattle knows the fear that these guys must have felt listening to the pounding hooves and feeling the ground tremble beneath them. Good work!!
@@joefalkens9834 "Caucasian" originally referred to everyone from as far south as the Golden Coast of Africa, to Scandanavia, and east to the central Steppes and modern day Iraq/Afghanistan
just try and imagine in our modern world today, having to fight and try and win in this kind of warfare. stunning depiction and a great video puts me right back into my seat of total war.. great job guys.. bravo!!
Two thoughts: 1. This is probably the most accurate portrayal in terms of scale of the armies. It’s truly harrowing how these peoples amassed such organized and vicious armies - gives me chills 2. The amount of Wolf pelts worn by the Germanic army is probably a reason why the wolves are endangered (very sad actually)
In ancient times there could have been 10 times the amount of men in the video on the battlefield fighting real barbarians. Some people don’t understand how absolutely fucking massive the Roman army was for the time and millions who would die expanding the borders of the empire and the millions trying to push those borders back to Rome.
What’s even more incredible is that for every man in the army there was a few slaves and a few animals, plus everything else an army would need so it must looked even more massive.
The angles and camera shots you got during this battle really highlights how utterly visceral Rome 2 was as a total war game. It's a level of brutality that honestly hasn't been replicated since. Even with the newer WH games and the blood options it just looks comedic and silly. The team who worked on this game at the core really appreciated the time period and had a good vision for how to portray it.
A fantastic battle excellent shots. Loved the troops walking in. Would be great to see some strategic shots as the battle unfolded it was all close ups.
Cannot imagine the stress of marching days possibly weeks to go all that way to meet a fierce barbaric horde across the valley. Mental how wars were fought hand to hand combat. To fight 2 minutes with a guy to the death one on one must be sickening but to fight days face to face is bladdy mad!!
Please help get our Rome work modern pc and laptop!?!?!? Historian fact: Caesar’s Rome would defeat mid-evil Rome Byzantine Empires. If anything the Plague that exterminated 2/3rds West should have blamed not converted to monotheism. Rome before 300C had 400% the population and 1000% GDP and 10 x manpower and vast science and engineering knowledge intentionally destroyed by Christianity forced conversion from top down. All 21 supercomputers queried agreed mankind would been vastly superior and colonizing stars by now if Rome had not. Same with Japans culture adopted by Asian as founder of modern China Sun Yet Sun agreed with Japan 1924 sadly died far too early. As anthropologist it was stunning to learn just how similar Samurai and Roman culture society were. Humans lost and forgot such vast greatness falling back into ignorance and divisive superstition. Like the irony the Greeks adopting rather than fighting over gods, the most logical of tribes. Japan China and Korea adopted not fought over Buddha and gods. Valuing science above all as today. The Norse and Romans never had religious crusades either. What if? Cancer, wolves beauty, diabetes, Parkinson’s, depression all cured? 11 tolerable worlds within 40 years space travel from earth would solve overpopulation and immortality
Satisfying Epic battle. the most deadly's troop is the Praetorian guard and the most dangerous weapon is the javeline throw. in defense mode, his stamina is still a lot in battle
Good commentary , poor grammar , hmm , not just poor , very poor . It’s author was playing truant at high school. No malice in my comment ,it is just the truth , it is uncommon for a person that likes to read , as obviously the author of the comment does, , to have very bad grammar.
@Ryan R No. The Praetorians were also used in the field on the front line. Just look at the campaigns of Germanicus. Even the late Praetorian Guard was still mostly made up of Italians, right up until their disbandment by Constantine.
@Ryan R Sorry, but you're wrong. Again, look at the battles of Germanicus, in which Praetorian cohorts were on the front line in direct combat action. It's really as simple as searching it up.
‘quo minus enim vitae dulcia norit, tanto minus est mortis causa timere’ - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus The less a man is acquainted with the sweets of life, the less reason he has to be afraid of death.
0:04 Man that's a lot of legions. I thought rome only had about 28 or 30. But besides that it was awesome to watch. I love playing total war rome 2 a lot. I think the roman armor and military is just fascinating to me. Thank you for the fun content. :)
Love the video, just the first part almost threw me off when you said "An army of 6,000 roman legions marches" I was like damn, that's like millions of soldiers lmao.
I cannot comprehend this type of warfare, so up close and personal. You were face to face with another human being, both of you intent on the gory death of the other, and THEN facing the next man after, over and over again. No thanks brother.
From the moment I saw the units in the Roman side, I immediately knew that the Gaulic tribes weren’t going to win. If you had the right troops and even if they had no experience, you can easily defeat a Gaulic army with ease. I always kept my men stationary so they wouldn’t get tired and used my cavalry for rear charges. Worked every time.
What we overlook…..that in these battles…..all that it required was an arrow into your chest, or an axe splitting into your shoulder or your thigh……and once the bleeding begins….your finished!
Yea that's pretty accurate. This is exactly how armies would march and meet each other on the battlefield. Thousands of men engaging in open combat. Vicious and bloody.
Very good. I’ve been reading Caesar’s Legion as well as Caesar’s Commentaries on Gall. This production captures the size of the populations involved in these battles.
@@joshuacruz4244 oh, i see…I can’t read history? I do agree war is for men warriors, historically. I find modern depictions of women warriors laughable, skewed to fit the modern feminist narrative. It’s ridiculous. But i do watch a lot of battle history. Please don’t stereo type people based on your prejudices.
Amazing somebody would fight the legions in open ground where the phalanx would be almost unbreakable. Attack them in wooden areas would make it hard for them to form up
That's why Germania was Rome's last Frontier, the forests of Germania made Roman formations a nightmare and the local population was known for guerilla tactics and shock-warfare
@@HaiyeeeTrololol AND It just wasn't worth it to Rome.. A client state so to speak was much cheaper. If Rome had wanted to really conquer Germany they certainly could have anytime they wanted.
@@sultankebab1587 Tbf, that’s was mostly due to their versatility and absurd ability to mobilise huge numbers of soldiers quickly. The later stages of Roman expansion lacked pitched infantry combat since their enemies had learnt of their superiority in that regard. Carhae, Teutoburg etc. Early on though, when they were fighting in Gaul, Greece and against the italic tribes, they lawnmowered armies.
@@trtvitor1385 Empires seem unstoppable at first and then their enemys either learn how to defeat them or just become stronger and destroy the empire. What you said was no suprise lol.
@@WarriorofChrist612 Nope. Overextension is the main reason empires fall. British, Mongol, Roman, French all fell due to the fact they couldn't reliably control all of their territories since they were either spread out so far, or were too vast. No Empire has been destroyed by a stronger foe. Roman Empire fell from within, and had too many enemies for it to handle - couldn't patrol its borders with the size of them and the reduced military at the time. Empires also don't fall when someone learns how to defeat the army, as they adapt over time. Mongols learnt how to better siege European castles, as did the Ottomans despite them being obstacles early on in their Empire's reigns. The Romans incorporated more cavalry and light axillaries towards the latter stages of its rule to better combat Germanic tribes in the north and Persians in the east.
@@HandyDandy6 impressive yes, but when you’re an infantryman and watching your friends right next to you gutted, that all goes out the window. there’s a reason veterans don’t like new recruits because they glamorize hell
Great job. Fun to watch. Its like what was going on in my mind as a kid as i played with my armies & toy soldiers. Made me smile at that memory. I enjoyed the video.
- The key point to remember here, (if your the observing enemy leaders seeing the legions of approaching legions marching toward you) is that... > During the 500 year golden age of the Empire. The Romans never quit. - Beat them once, beat them twice. You will only find yourself facing an even larger Roman army a short time later. And this time, really, really, , , pissed ..! - As the Carthage general Hannibal found out after whipping Roman Legions for 15 years as far as the city of Rome it self. Trying to get the Romans to accept a peace treaty. - He ended up losing his unbeatable army & his head to the tenacious Roman will to conquer. And they ended up pushing into & finally destroying Carthage nearly a thousand miles away afterwards.
@@brianmccullough2420 Germanicus destroyed 2 Germanic tribes after Varus was ambushed so they did return, and many roman emperors led large raids into their land after Germanicus.
@@brianmccullough2420 what people don't understand about the conquer of the Germany is that the romans realized that it wasn't worth it. If they wanted to conquer it, trust me, after the Germanicus win they would have simply sent another army to expand their bounds.
@@Tross-fe1bq This is a good point and my statement "never returned" was definitely not accurate, however I believe the sentiment behind it was still accurate, which was the Romans where beaten and although they might have returned with an army that army no longer had the same goal as the original Legions of Varus, thus they did in a sense quit due in part to there defeat by an enemy. So in there case in made sense to fight the Romans.
Great animation and well presented video. I am troubled but the way the Romans are presented as more or less a mob. The Romans perfected the compact unit formation which allowed the rotation of the front line troops and insured a continuous presentation of fresh troops to face an enemy growing more tired as the battle wore on.
Holly Crap that was an amazing video the marching scenes perfect as always, the cavery charge awesome!!! I have a suggestion, it would be cool to do a thing where they fall back a couple of times to hold a better potision, kinda of like helms deep they fall back slowly then come back we a awesome and dramatic charge? Not saying do that but a battle like this. So in other words more strategy. 😀
The romans didnt struggle to fight in dense woods, they struggled when their dumbass general led them into a ridiculous ambush so obvious that all of said general's advisors were telling him not to go there but he was so infinitely braindead he still went.
Very interesting. When Rome was at its height the only way you could defeat them on a open battlefield was with a massive cavalry with expert bowmen like the Huns. If the majority of your army is foot soldiers then you have to ambush them in a forested area such as Arminius did. If you follow the teachings of Sun Tzu you will be victorious. Know your enemy and know yourself.
It helped a lot that Arminius knew them very well having been a leader on the Roman side before. The Huns more than matched the Romans in battle experience and leadership. But Rome prevailed until it rotted away from inside.
@@brianpetersen2364 Huns didn´t really do hit an run for anything but skirmishing if that is what you are implying. Common misconception about both the Huns and Mongols.
I only have one thing to say. The history of the Germans and the Roman occupying power in Europe was a completely different situation. The Romans only got as far as the Rhine and not over it. The Roman Limes was the border of the empire and final. This was the fact due to the Roman losses in the Battle of the so-called Teutoburg Forest, in which the hitherto undefeated Roman Empire had lost a total of 3 legions with man and mouse. The myth of the Undefeated Roman Legions had been broken. And the Germans largely retained their freedom and independence.
As a war vet, I question of the marching solders would be wearing full armor and shield until they were approaching danger zone! They often had camp followers, often amounting to greater numbers than the solders, and long convoys of supply wagons, often stretching out for miles! There would be great numbers that would be out hunting and gathering wood and such supplies as well! Formations also would not always be marching in such tight formations! There would be solders dropping out , to use the bathroom for example, and these tight formations would soon be stretching out for many miles! They would not be forming up like this till they confronted the enemy of felt they might be in danger, like being vulnerable to ambush for example! Although this looks very impressive, and it is, this is not how they would be marching most of the time! Very few large scale battles like this took place on wide open fields! The Germanic tribes would attack the solders in wooded areas, where the Romans would be in thin line where the front of the lines could not see the back of the lines, and the Germanic tribes would ambush the Romans in more skirmish like, with guerrilla warfare, then slink back into the woods, hopping the Roman's would chase them, where the Roman war of battle would leave them at a disadvantage and the German tribe would have the advantage! The Romans lost whole legions this way, but in the end, of course, the Romans wore down the Germanic tribes and many even joined the Roman armies! The opening scenes of the Gladiator movie was probably much more realistic! There was in no time were the Germanic tribesmen ever in such uniform clothing or shields!
Check out Roman history, you sound very interested but maybe an update could help , modern archeology and cross references evidences have now addressed those topics and several credible RUclips channels have good introduction clips to this stuff. Just an example of this , Roman soldiers did marched with equipment after the "marius reforms" at the end of the 2nd century bc. They even came up with a cute nickname for them "Marius mules". Also Germanic tribes equipment and tactics greatly improved overtime mostly due to prolonged contact with Rome and even often fighting in the legions themselves ( and by often i mean that Rhine and Danube legions were almost entirely composed of germans after the republic era ).
Nope. Rome's legions got rid of the camp followers and long baggage trains by making the individual soldier carry his equipment and rations, and they'd hunt after setting up camp for the night. Rome was more disciplined than your military was, they didn't get out of line, they didn't take bathroom breaks during marches.
they never learned it well, although they did best in ambush, Germanic keep trying to assualt Roman trops, worked a fedw times but over all, nah. Check out "Battle of the Long Bridges"
The Way they fought then is the way they fight now..first the archers ..that would be the arteliry..the calvary would be the tanks..and infantry charges..
yep the infantry definitely charge at eachother with swords and shields and engage in hand to hand combat....majority of modern warfare is done through long range firefights, ieds, aerial/drone assaults and bombings.
@@cainmagnetic9796 but the concept stays the same Archers weaken the ennemy (artillery) Cavalry takes care of threats too big for the infantry and allows enclosure of areas (block paths etc... with presence like vehicles) Infantry occupy ground and takes care of the small scale fighting
@@Vivi-xn9iz true but thing is the archers are actually on the battlefield. A drone can be piloted remotely by a person drinking red bull with their feet up.
@@cameronmyers743 no he wasnt. He clearly tried to emulate the Romans. The Nazi salute, the Eagle Standard and even the names of his battle operations were all Roman inspired. By his claim that the Nazi Regime was the third Reich is the suggestion of another Roman empire. Get your facts right before making incorrect comments.
Great battle!the strength,ability,and skill of a soldier is tested and seen.the strong and skilled lives.the weak and less trained dies.survival of the fittest.thank you very much for this war movie.more power to you all.
And that's how they learned never to fight the Roman Army in an open battlefield. Better instead to lure them into dense forests and swamps where their discipline and organization carried much less weight.
When I grow up I want to be a cameraman. He is immune to nuclear bomb, can time travel, breathe under water and even the most dangerous animals respect him and leave him alone
fuck me, 6000 legions is a lot, but it doesnt look like much - how the bloody hell did you fit 30000000 / 36000000 men in a battle and fighting another army... my god man, you are a true legend xd
Why is no one talking about the “6,000 legions”, the most Rome ever had at once were 37. They were typically three to six thousand soldiers. If there were 6,000 legions there’d have been at most 36,000,000 soldiers (more likely 30,000,000ish). The estimate for the total people in 200 AD varies significantly but I’m going to assume it’s 300,000,000. I don’t think I need to state the statistics to say that an army of this size at this time is unlikely, especially considering that the largest gathering ever recorded is about 15,000,000. Edit: I think it meant 6,000 troops, even though that is extremely different to 6,000 legions (and yes I’m aware that I’m only really writing this for myself at this point).
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Dude, how you can make the camera stabel when recording this?
Are you use any kind of replay mod or camera mod?
Two points:
1 Why do you think the Romans didn’t use flame throwers in battle - set the entire Germans or Celtic tribes they were fighting on fire, that would have meant instant victory, a far safer method of fighting then the close range hand to hand engagements with the risk of injury and death ?
2 According to Julias Caesar’s account of battles with the Germanic tribes he states that they had little body protection, other then the shield they carried which was soon rendered unusable, wore skin which only party covered their vast bodies leaving them exposed to Roman sword, archers and spears. Your video suggests otherwise.
This is almost exactly like the opening sequence of "Gladiator"! :)
Through action,a man becomes a hero.
Through death,a hero becomes a legend.
Through time,a legend becomes a Myth.
And by learning from the Myth,a man takes action.
that makes perfect sense
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I love this quote ! Where does it come from pls ?
If you are the author of this you are wise; if you did not you should attribute the creator so others can read and learn as well.
@@davidstewart5811 I believe that even those a specific quote is attribued to are not actually the first ones to have said so. In the numerous thousand of years that preceded their existence on Earth, many others before them have very probably said the same thing - but in different terms.
It's really amazing that they were able to capture such great footage of this battle.
Magic Air I think
Yea honestly it had me creamin and poopin at the same damn time
@@duragactivity seek treatment
Lol
And in High def even!!
3:56
Guy takes an arrow to the shoulder.
"Yeah whatever."
Then I took an arrow in the knee
That’s just small cut
People have survived far worse then an arrow or bullet to the shoulder. Just look at most if not all our Medal of honor awardees. People have survived having IEDs take their leg or arm or several limbs. Some have even received prosthetic limbs & returned to combat & the military or police force. People including small kids get shot everyday in most liberal cities & even toddlers have survived gun shots what's an arrow.
@@Riickastleey Is that fur?Coming out from your ears?
@@SlovenianMapper6 W pfp
Watching the ancient Romans march into battle must have been truly amazing. I hope I can time travel someday, even as a ghost.
lol!
Thumbs up to the camera man who was able to get this footage real close. Your job will be appreciated forever.
Probably got some kind of award, hopefully not posthumously ! 😮
plot twist: the cameraman placed his camera upon a hawk, that hawks flies through the course of battle
@@meetjeric I wonder what the weight of a hawk would be laden as such!
@@osborne9255 at least the weight of a prey it always carry
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Not a historical battle perhaps but the fighting is pretty damn close to actual hand to hand fighting- Anyone who has ever experienced a stampede of horses or cattle knows the fear that these guys must have felt listening to the pounding hooves and feeling the ground tremble beneath them. Good work!!
True White people (Germanic tribes) VS. brown race (Romans)
@@joefalkens9834 Romans were white...
@@rare5964 According to pre-ww2 Anglo-Saxon speaking word only Germanic people are true white. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordicism
@@joefalkens9834 "Caucasian" originally referred to everyone from as far south as the Golden Coast of Africa, to Scandanavia, and east to the central Steppes and modern day Iraq/Afghanistan
@@joefalkens9834 To be honest it doesn’t matter if Germans are the “true white people” they still got shit on both world wars.
just try and imagine in our modern world today, having to fight and try and win in this kind of warfare. stunning depiction and a great video puts me right back into my seat of total war.. great job guys.. bravo!!
Can't imagine the terror of being in a battle like that.
We have a few. Falulla , Saigon ,Stanlingrad, Kiev. Really upclose .
@@FrostyGerardo-kr7xs by far the closest one has to be Passchendaele in 1917.
@@jjrj8568 And verdun
Fuck ya. It would be exhilaratingly terrifying 😂
Two thoughts:
1. This is probably the most accurate portrayal in terms of scale of the armies. It’s truly harrowing how these peoples amassed such organized and vicious armies - gives me chills
2. The amount of Wolf pelts worn by the Germanic army is probably a reason why the wolves are endangered (very sad actually)
Wolves are extinct in most of Europe.
In ancient times there could have been 10 times the amount of men in the video on the battlefield fighting real barbarians. Some people don’t understand how absolutely fucking massive the Roman army was for the time and millions who would die expanding the borders of the empire and the millions trying to push those borders back to Rome.
@@saltyhamms10 Thing is, real life doesn't drop it's framerate if there are millions of men on the battlefield at once.
Yeah thats why there arent wolves in europe because they were killed 2000 years ago lol
@@WitcherGerd Wolves have been a danger to people in most of Europe until the 18th century, of course they'd hunt them to extinction.
The four minute walk is awesome itself
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But they never did a long march with the swords drawn !
@@knut-hinrichqwalter2463 it’s a game how could he possibly fix that
What’s even more incredible is that for every man in the army there was a few slaves and a few animals, plus everything else an army would need so it must looked even more massive.
The angles and camera shots you got during this battle really highlights how utterly visceral Rome 2 was as a total war game. It's a level of brutality that honestly hasn't been replicated since. Even with the newer WH games and the blood options it just looks comedic and silly. The team who worked on this game at the core really appreciated the time period and had a good vision for how to portray it.
The Germans wouldn't have been surprised by the cavalry charge by the Romans if only they had studied the beginning of the movie "Gladiator"
Brilliant 🤔
I thought the movie was made after the battle.
That movie's a joke, depicting a Roman by using a barbarian actor.
@@scintillam_dei Well even he was a auxiliary with roman citizenship the gladiator (spanish)
@@SenhorMag See "Greeks, Latins, Iberians and Jews were, and are, NOT Blond!"
A fantastic battle excellent shots. Loved the troops walking in. Would be great to see some strategic shots as the battle unfolded it was all close ups.
Especially as better camera mods are so popular, you can get all kinds of angles.
You make me want to play Rome 2 again ik being Rome is op but it's just them marching and being in formation is just so satisfying.
Rome is based.
Well the Romans were literally OP in their time so... lol
I would call that historically accurate.
Cannot imagine the stress of marching days possibly weeks to go all that way to meet a fierce barbaric horde across the valley. Mental how wars were fought hand to hand combat. To fight 2 minutes with a guy to the death one on one must be sickening but to fight days face to face is bladdy mad!!
The March at the start is kinda satisfying just the way all those troops flow in
not any dust....
@@tegunnit’s a game idiot
In reality, the soil of Europe is covered in blood because of the wars of ancient and modern eras.
The same as everywhere in the world but less than China
@@KhaiNguyen-vr8ce europe has had the most wars in history and the most major wars as well
@James Campbell same for casualties
@@KhaiNguyen-vr8ce Europe has had more battles since 16th century than asia has combined since dawn of time idk what your talking about
And plagues because people would just bury dead in massive pits
It's really hard to capture a good cinematic battle in Rome Total War
Congratulations man....
No idea what’s happening….zooming in on a group of 15 people at a time is about the worst way to show this
“On my signal, unleash hell.”
Gladiator!
@@joelfernandez2333 'People should know when they're conquered'...
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Historian fact: Caesar’s Rome would defeat mid-evil Rome Byzantine Empires. If anything the Plague that exterminated 2/3rds West should have blamed not converted to monotheism.
Rome before 300C had 400% the population and 1000% GDP and 10 x manpower and vast science and engineering knowledge intentionally destroyed by Christianity forced conversion from top down.
All 21 supercomputers queried agreed mankind would been vastly superior and colonizing stars by now if Rome had not.
Same with Japans culture adopted by Asian as founder of modern China Sun Yet Sun agreed with Japan 1924 sadly died far too early.
As anthropologist it was stunning to learn just how similar Samurai and Roman culture society were.
Humans lost and forgot such vast greatness falling back into ignorance and divisive superstition.
Like the irony the Greeks adopting rather than fighting over gods, the most logical of tribes. Japan China and Korea adopted not fought over Buddha and gods. Valuing science above all as today. The Norse and Romans never had religious crusades either.
What if?
Cancer, wolves beauty, diabetes, Parkinson’s, depression all cured?
11 tolerable worlds within 40 years space travel from earth would solve overpopulation and immortality
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Only JESUS CHRIST can save your soul from the flames of hell!
Ancient cameramen indeed brave to film this battle...
He must’ve known the cameraman never dies.
@@Inquisitor_Vex exactly!
I didn't know they had drones back then!
@@nightlightabcd but now you do
Satisfying Epic battle.
the most deadly's troop is the Praetorian guard and the most dangerous weapon is the javeline throw. in defense mode, his stamina is still a lot in battle
You say about your/unit self?
@@goldenhawk352 That's another guard unit, an entirely different Germanic Guard. The Praetorians would have almost entirely been Italic.
Good commentary , poor grammar , hmm , not just poor , very poor . It’s author was playing truant at high school. No malice in my comment ,it is just the truth , it is uncommon for a person that likes to read , as obviously the author of the comment does, , to have very bad grammar.
@Ryan R No. The Praetorians were also used in the field on the front line. Just look at the campaigns of Germanicus. Even the late Praetorian Guard was still mostly made up of Italians, right up until their disbandment by Constantine.
@Ryan R Sorry, but you're wrong. Again, look at the battles of Germanicus, in which Praetorian cohorts were on the front line in direct combat action. It's really as simple as searching it up.
‘quo minus enim vitae dulcia norit, tanto minus est mortis causa timere’
- Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
The less a man is acquainted with the sweets of life, the less reason he has to be afraid of death.
Watching this and all I can think of is
“Centurion Pullo!! BACK INTO FORMATION!!!!”
0:04 Man that's a lot of legions. I thought rome only had about 28 or 30. But besides that it was awesome to watch. I love playing total war rome 2 a lot. I think the roman armor and military is just fascinating to me. Thank you for the fun content. :)
I think he meant legionaries there cause 1 legion = about 5000 legionaries.
there are only 2 legions there for 5k legionaries in each legion
Exactly that's what I was joking about
@@hibonbon1900 It was a joke
I noticed that too and my first thought was "Holy Shit! 30.000.000 legionaries! The Empire is unstoppable!
Love the video, just the first part almost threw me off when you said "An army of 6,000 roman legions marches" I was like damn, that's like millions of soldiers lmao.
yep big mistake on my behalf
@@WarAndHistory. Either way, love the video keep up the fantastic work! People like you inspire me to make videos like this.
Actually 6.000 man was regular Legion size not without any reinforcement
@@KedelaiHitamPilihan-w4u actually they were more like 4500 in the republic then 5400 in the empire
@@abdelkerimmahfoudh8993 thnks for the corection im need read more about rome history
I cannot comprehend this type of warfare, so up close and personal. You were face to face with another human being, both of you intent on the gory death of the other, and THEN facing the next man after, over and over again. No thanks brother.
From the moment I saw the units in the Roman side, I immediately knew that the Gaulic tribes weren’t going to win. If you had the right troops and even if they had no experience, you can easily defeat a Gaulic army with ease. I always kept my men stationary so they wouldn’t get tired and used my cavalry for rear charges. Worked every time.
6,000 Roman legions sounds like quite a lot. 6,000 legionaries might make more sense
What we overlook…..that in these battles…..all that it required was an arrow into your chest, or an axe splitting into your shoulder or your thigh……and once the bleeding begins….your finished!
Definitely during the battle but the Romans were quite skilled with battlefield medicine just had to survive long enough to make use of it.
Yea that's pretty accurate. This is exactly how armies would march and meet each other on the battlefield. Thousands of men engaging in open combat. Vicious and bloody.
Very good. I’ve been reading Caesar’s Legion as well as Caesar’s Commentaries on Gall. This production captures the size of the populations involved in these battles.
Good stuff and Germania, Tacitus.
We have a Joan of arc here I see 😆
@@joshuacruz4244 what does that mean? Please explain.
@@pattywolford You're into warfare correct ? But a woman's place is not on the battlefield. War is for men not women.
@@joshuacruz4244 oh, i see…I can’t read history? I do agree war is for men warriors, historically. I find modern depictions of women warriors laughable, skewed to fit the modern feminist narrative. It’s ridiculous. But i do watch a lot of battle history. Please don’t stereo type people based on your prejudices.
Amazing somebody would fight the legions in open ground where the phalanx would be almost unbreakable. Attack them in wooden areas would make it hard for them to form up
That's why Germania was Rome's last Frontier, the forests of Germania made Roman formations a nightmare and the local population was known for guerilla tactics and shock-warfare
@@HaiyeeeTrololol Weren't they also ambushed in the Jewish revolt and lost an eagle?
@Ryan R Well the 12th Legion lost its eagle in the Ambush. So yes they were ambushed. Just read it.
@@HaiyeeeTrololol AND It just wasn't worth it to Rome.. A client state so to speak was much cheaper. If Rome had wanted to really conquer Germany they certainly could have anytime they wanted.
@@UAPReportingCenter It would have been Parthia 2.0 for Rome.
The German would've needed five times their number to succeed.
In reality, the Germans beat the Romans.
The things I would do to be able to go back in time to see one of these huge battles in person. I would do some crazy things
A very disciplined and very well led legion would be very hard to defeat on an infantry vs infantry engagement.
well, there is a reason why they had an empire.
@@sultankebab1587 Tbf, that’s was mostly due to their versatility and absurd ability to mobilise huge numbers of soldiers quickly. The later stages of Roman expansion lacked pitched infantry combat since their enemies had learnt of their superiority in that regard. Carhae, Teutoburg etc. Early on though, when they were fighting in Gaul, Greece and against the italic tribes, they lawnmowered armies.
@@trtvitor1385 Empires seem unstoppable at first and then their enemys either learn how to defeat them or just become stronger and destroy the empire. What you said was no suprise lol.
@@WarriorofChrist612 Nope. Overextension is the main reason empires fall. British, Mongol, Roman, French all fell due to the fact they couldn't reliably control all of their territories since they were either spread out so far, or were too vast. No Empire has been destroyed by a stronger foe. Roman Empire fell from within, and had too many enemies for it to handle - couldn't patrol its borders with the size of them and the reduced military at the time. Empires also don't fall when someone learns how to defeat the army, as they adapt over time. Mongols learnt how to better siege European castles, as did the Ottomans despite them being obstacles early on in their Empire's reigns. The Romans incorporated more cavalry and light axillaries towards the latter stages of its rule to better combat Germanic tribes in the north and Persians in the east.
@@trtvitor1385 “ Overextension is the main reason empires fall” Lists a few empires, and acts like all empires died due to overextension.
How it must have really felt to be there in the moment. So terrifying and grand at the same time.
War at any time has never really ever been :grand"!
@@nightlightabcd War is plenty grand. You'd argue that the mobilization of thousands against thousands of men isn't an impressive or imposing sight?
@@HandyDandy6 impressive yes, but when you’re an infantryman and watching your friends right next to you gutted, that all goes out the window. there’s a reason veterans don’t like new recruits because they glamorize hell
Great job. Fun to watch. Its like what was going on in my mind as a kid as i played with my armies & toy soldiers. Made me smile at that memory. I enjoyed the video.
Hahaha same
Props to the camera man who went back and filmed it
Still one of the best Rome Total War soundtrack by far, fits the video well.
Goosebumps right from the beginning.
6000 roman legions? jeez Rome kinda overprepared for this
- The key point to remember here, (if your the observing enemy leaders seeing the legions of approaching legions marching toward you) is that...
> During the 500 year golden age of the Empire. The Romans never quit.
- Beat them once, beat them twice. You will only find yourself facing an even larger Roman army a short time later. And this time, really, really, , , pissed ..!
- As the Carthage general Hannibal found out after whipping Roman Legions for 15 years as far as the city of Rome it self. Trying to get the Romans to accept a peace treaty.
- He ended up losing his unbeatable army & his head to the tenacious Roman will to conquer. And they ended up pushing into & finally destroying Carthage nearly a thousand miles away afterwards.
Cool Info
But in real life the Romans did try to conquer German territory, where ambushed and then never returned...
@@brianmccullough2420 Germanicus destroyed 2 Germanic tribes after Varus was ambushed so they did return, and many roman emperors led large raids into their land after Germanicus.
@@brianmccullough2420 what people don't understand about the conquer of the Germany is that the romans realized that it wasn't worth it. If they wanted to conquer it, trust me, after the Germanicus win they would have simply sent another army to expand their bounds.
@@Tross-fe1bq This is a good point and my statement "never returned" was definitely not accurate, however I believe the sentiment behind it was still accurate, which was the Romans where beaten and although they might have returned with an army that army no longer had the same goal as the original Legions of Varus, thus they did in a sense quit due in part to there defeat by an enemy. So in there case in made sense to fight the Romans.
the way that one dude just asked “Shall we be off, then?” In the middle of a frickin WARZONE had me dying XD
True White people (Germanic tribes) VS. brown race (Romans)
@@joefalkens9834 um ok....
Great animation and well presented video. I am troubled but the way the Romans are presented as more or less a mob. The Romans perfected the compact unit formation which allowed the rotation of the front line troops and insured a continuous presentation of fresh troops to face an enemy growing more tired as the battle wore on.
What a masterpiece! Please keep up the good work, TWB!
7:47/7:48 this new knowledge for me, Roma Legion can use their foot too for attacking enemies, although it seem as desperate attack :(
Holly Crap that was an amazing video the marching scenes perfect as always, the cavery charge awesome!!! I have a suggestion, it would be cool to do a thing where they fall back a couple of times to hold a better potision, kinda of like helms deep they fall back slowly then come back we a awesome and dramatic charge? Not saying do that but a battle like this. So in other words more strategy. 😀
The beginning of this Video was a Good Place to Ambush from Either Sides...
Everybody gangsta, until dense woods are involved. Ask Varus.
The romans didnt struggle to fight in dense woods, they struggled when their dumbass general led them into a ridiculous ambush so obvious that all of said general's advisors were telling him not to go there but he was so infinitely braindead he still went.
Too soon.
Very interesting. When Rome was at its height the only way you could defeat them on a open battlefield was with a massive cavalry with expert bowmen like the Huns. If the majority of your army is foot soldiers then you have to ambush them in a forested area such as Arminius did. If you follow the teachings of Sun Tzu you will be victorious. Know your enemy and know yourself.
Renaissance era pike formations would probably have been pretty good too. Of course they weren´t a thing at the time.
It helped a lot that Arminius knew them very well having been a leader on the Roman side before. The Huns more than matched the Romans in battle experience and leadership. But Rome prevailed until it rotted away from inside.
@@brianpetersen2364 Huns didn´t really do hit an run for anything but skirmishing if that is what you are implying. Common misconception about both the Huns and Mongols.
@@gyozop By the time they fought at Chalons, the Roman army was a total joke.
Not talking about firearms. Not sure what gave you that impression. @justvibing4796
I only have one thing to say. The history of the Germans and the Roman occupying power in Europe was a completely different situation. The Romans only got as far as the Rhine and not over it. The Roman Limes was the border of the empire and final. This was the fact due to the Roman losses in the Battle of the so-called Teutoburg Forest, in which the hitherto undefeated Roman Empire had lost a total of 3 legions with man and mouse. The myth of the Undefeated Roman Legions had been broken. And the Germans largely retained their freedom and independence.
I love how you used rtw 1 music. Its too epic
As a war vet, I question of the marching solders would be wearing full armor and shield until they were approaching danger zone! They often had camp followers, often amounting to greater numbers than the solders, and long convoys of supply wagons, often stretching out for miles! There would be great numbers that would be out hunting and gathering wood and such supplies as well! Formations also would not always be marching in such tight formations! There would be solders dropping out , to use the bathroom for example, and these tight formations would soon be stretching out for many miles! They would not be forming up like this till they confronted the enemy of felt they might be in danger, like being vulnerable to ambush for example!
Although this looks very impressive, and it is, this is not how they would be marching most of the time! Very few large scale battles like this took place on wide open fields! The Germanic tribes would attack the solders in wooded areas, where the Romans would be in thin line where the front of the lines could not see the back of the lines, and the Germanic tribes would ambush the Romans in more skirmish like, with guerrilla warfare, then slink back into the woods, hopping the Roman's would chase them, where the Roman war of battle would leave them at a disadvantage and the German tribe would have the advantage! The Romans lost whole legions this way, but in the end, of course, the Romans wore down the Germanic tribes and many even joined the Roman armies!
The opening scenes of the Gladiator movie was probably much more realistic! There was in no time were the Germanic tribesmen ever in such uniform clothing or shields!
Check out Roman history, you sound very interested but maybe an update could help , modern archeology and cross references evidences have now addressed those topics and several credible RUclips channels have good introduction clips to this stuff. Just an example of this , Roman soldiers did marched with equipment after the "marius reforms" at the end of the 2nd century bc. They even came up with a cute nickname for them "Marius mules". Also Germanic tribes equipment and tactics greatly improved overtime mostly due to prolonged contact with Rome and even often fighting in the legions themselves ( and by often i mean that Rhine and Danube legions were almost entirely composed of germans after the republic era ).
Marius reform dude
Nope. Rome's legions got rid of the camp followers and long baggage trains by making the individual soldier carry his equipment and rations, and they'd hunt after setting up camp for the night. Rome was more disciplined than your military was, they didn't get out of line, they didn't take bathroom breaks during marches.
Another amazing battle keep up the grind 💯
Wow i need a PC 😢i really hope one Day they make games like this to console cause gaming pc for games like this are very expensive
*6,000 Roman legions* damnn, thats atleast 30,000,000 roman legionaries, HAHA
You are correct, my mistake 😅
@@WarAndHistory. HAHA It's okay.
A rain of arrows would be so freaking surreal, just utter silence and darkened skies as a hail of piercing death swept across the army
One of the best videos on this website I've seen inna while
Nice to hear, that you used the original soundtrack from Rome total war 1. Awesome video.
hope these Germanic tribes learned never to attack Roman legions in open fields, giving them room to form their formations for defense "or" offense.
they never learned it well, although they did best in ambush, Germanic keep trying to assualt Roman trops, worked a fedw times but over all, nah.
Check out "Battle of the Long Bridges"
Damn this is fing badass !! I’m 10 yrs late to this party but idc
The Way they fought then is the way they fight now..first the archers ..that would be the arteliry..the calvary would be the tanks..and infantry charges..
Yes sir, still same tactics and rebellion still prefer an ambush attack
yep the infantry definitely charge at eachother with swords and shields and engage in hand to hand combat....majority of modern warfare is done through long range firefights, ieds, aerial/drone assaults and bombings.
@@cainmagnetic9796 but the concept stays the same
Archers weaken the ennemy (artillery)
Cavalry takes care of threats too big for the infantry and allows enclosure of areas (block paths etc... with presence like vehicles)
Infantry occupy ground and takes care of the small scale fighting
@@Vivi-xn9iz true but thing is the archers are actually on the battlefield. A drone can be piloted remotely by a person drinking red bull with their feet up.
@@cainmagnetic9796 but your drone cant control any ground, drones have more of a support role in gathering intelligence than bombing
Just gotta say, that barbarian at 7:15 was an absolute chad.
Ironic how Germany wanted to be the next Roman Empire..... then again literally everyone was trying to be the next Roman Empire.
If you’re referring to Hitler’s time, he was actually more inspired my Genghis Khan
@@cameronmyers743 no he wasnt. He clearly tried to emulate the Romans. The Nazi salute, the Eagle Standard and even the names of his battle operations were all Roman inspired. By his claim that the Nazi Regime was the third Reich is the suggestion of another Roman empire. Get your facts right before making incorrect comments.
Well,Rome showed the world what an empire should be. Choose your next Rome.
@@cameronmyers743 He was talking about the Holy Roman Empire
That one roman horseman riding straight in to a tree at 11:46 was awesome.xD
This was truly epic buddy. Hats off.
Great battle!the strength,ability,and skill of a soldier is tested and seen.the strong and skilled lives.the weak and less trained dies.survival of the fittest.thank you very much for this war movie.more power to you all.
I would need some “crank”to make it in those days.
So just vote for Trump. Same thing.
Props for the camera man who went thousand of years back to the past to make this footagr
I was just reminded of my childhood!)thank you to the author
i dont know which modes are in there but this is the best looking total war battle I've seen
Mods are in description
@@WarAndHistory. oh thanks mate
53 dislikes from Germanic Tribes. :))))
ROMA INVICTA!!!
Now its 90
purple roman guys are badass lookin like dude you cant tell me that theyre not cool
Those are praetorians
@@hotdogproductions1857 i dont think praetorian is ever in battle
Great battle with Rome 1 music is the best 🎶❤️
Gotta love the Rome 1 music being used in this.
And that's how they learned never to fight the Roman Army in an open battlefield. Better instead to lure them into dense forests and swamps where their discipline and organization carried much less weight.
True White people (Germanic tribes) VS. brown race (Romans)
When I grow up I want to be a cameraman. He is immune to nuclear bomb, can time travel, breathe under water and even the most dangerous animals respect him and leave him alone
Just imagine this game in VR, and you are one of the soldiers there.
Just play MORDHAU than. :)
0:06 6,000 Roman legionnaires! Not legions! That would be _way_ too many legions.
Amazing video man pls more of Rome 😍
The camera men also were careful not take pictures of airplanes because there were no flying objects at that time in history.. 😁
fuck me, 6000 legions is a lot, but it doesnt look like much - how the bloody hell did you fit 30000000 / 36000000 men in a battle and fighting another army... my god man, you are a true legend xd
I was thinking the same thing lmao
Why is no one talking about the “6,000 legions”, the most Rome ever had at once were 37. They were typically three to six thousand soldiers. If there were 6,000 legions there’d have been at most 36,000,000 soldiers (more likely 30,000,000ish). The estimate for the total people in 200 AD varies significantly but I’m going to assume it’s 300,000,000. I don’t think I need to state the statistics to say that an army of this size at this time is unlikely, especially considering that the largest gathering ever recorded is about 15,000,000.
Edit: I think it meant 6,000 troops, even though that is extremely different to 6,000 legions (and yes I’m aware that I’m only really writing this for myself at this point).
one does not simply play Total War without mods
present time,
the US: looks like someone needs some freedom.
ancient time,
Rome: looks like someone needs some aqueducts.
Holy.... this black violet Legion dudes :0
What if, you as a Germanic soldier couldn't find a wolf to wear?
you had to stay home 🤣😂
" 6000 LEGIONS" ???? (Thats 30 million soldiers) DOH!
The camera man is in creative mode
5:42 All those helmets moving was just chaos
Rome Remastered looks amazing wow 🤣
6,000 Roman legions with about 5,500 troops in each legion? This must approximate the entire population of the Empire at the time .....
Mistakes were made 😎
Epic battle 👍 nice , Rome will triumph 💪
great filming! All the drones and cameras that you needed to film this must have been very expensive I assume
I see an entire cohort of centurions LOL!
Yes I remember when Rome invaded with 30 million men also
It was a magnificent sight.
True White people (Germanic tribes) VS. brown race (Romans)
Какие были пацаны,это не актогон.....балдеешь,я с этим веком.....
E P I C ... the game that started it all..
? You mean the game that triggered the downfall of the series?
@@danb4900 for a small while maybe, now one of the most popular
"...they march out to meet the Romans head on."
Then it is a Roman victory.