Roman Republic Vs Carthage: Battle of the Trebia River 218 BC | Cinematic
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The Battle of the Trebia (or Trebbia) was the first major battle of the Second Punic War, fought between the Carthaginian forces of Hannibal and a Roman army under Sempronius Longus on 22 or 23 December 218 BC. It took place on the flood plain of the west bank of the lower Trebia River, not far from the settlement of Placentia (modern Piacenza), and resulted in a heavy defeat for the Romans.
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The year is 218 BC the place is tje River Trebia in Nothern Italy
On one side an Army of The Roman Republic
On the other side an Army of the African Empire of Carthage which dominates the western Medditerrainian
40 Years prior Rome clashed with Carthage in the First Punic War after 23 years of Fighting Carthage suffered a crushing defreat.
But then a 27 year old Carthiginian General rose to power and plotted his revenge against rome his name was Hannibal
Hannibal's first move against Rome was to sack the Roman held city of Saguntum not far from modern day Valencia.
Rome was enraged the Second Punic War had begun Hannibals first move was to take the war to the ennemy in Spring 218 BC his Army including 37 War Elephants set out on a epic march across the Alps to invade Italy. During the treacherous 500 mile march Hannibal lost Men,Supplies and Elephants.
By the time his Army entered Italy it had been reduced to just 26'000 men however in Hannibals first brief encounter with the Romans he used his agile Numidian Cavalry to ambush and outmenuver a small Roman force
Rome was alarmed by Hannibals bold invasion and sent two legions to deal with him once and for all the leader of this force was the Roman Consul
Sempronius Longus
A Roman legion consisted of 5000 men including light and heavy infantry with cavalry in support a common Roman battle tactic was to march the almost unstoppable legions forward in an attempt to overthrow the enemy in brute force but Longus's army contained many new recruits inexperienced in battle
In the winter of 218 BC longus and his reinforcements joined 2 more leigions on a wide plain in Northern Italy the River Trebia that cut through the plain is freezing cold but fordable.
The Roman commander Longus is an aggressive and arrogant leader he values quick confrontations and he's desperate to fight knowing Victory at Trebia will bring him personel glory and wealth and Longus has good reason for optimisim he has 40'000 infantry 10'000 more than Hannibal.
But the Roman Cavalry is weak tired and reluctent to make detail scouting experditions persuming a ambush on the open plain is impossible.
Hannibal is camped just a few miles away across the River Trebia Hannibals Infantry the survivors from the long Alpine crossing are the best tougthest and most loyal of all his troops and his large elite cavalry is unparrelleled.
If the Roman Army is victorious Hannibal's dream of conqouring Italy could be gone forever but if he wins he will be able to strike at the Roman heartland and even Rome itself
the stakes are high
battle is imminent
Chad
Gigachad
@@rome5189 why are you saying Chad???
@@danielannett1019 chad is a compliment
@@kylecrane3054 oh ok
The best use this game has had is for portraying historical battles and doccumentaries in youtube.
Hannibla was a brilliant commander, he trusted his troops. Especially his Heavy Libyan Fighters who have again and again proved themselves as excellent fighters and didn't let him down. They served him well and were a key unit in his army.
Carthaginians and Numidians fighters not freaking Libyans?
@@djamelbouch3670 Carthaginians are Tunisians while Numedians are Algerians
@@djamelbouch3670 He had local Libyan fighters too go look it up.
@@mordakaiser.3423 and Libyans which lived between the two go look at the map they both boarder Libya.
@@djamelbouch3670 Yes freaking Libyans, go check your geography and history.
Hannibal was a gigachad
What's that.Was he Jewish?
@@donaldgoodinson7550 No, just a badass alpha male. That's what GigaChad means.
@@ThermoNuclearCopium Oh,I see,ever heard of it before.I'm sure a lot of wifes agree.
@@donaldgoodinson7550 Yea look it up, there are a ton of memes about it.
Carthaginian of Phoenician descent of Levantine blood
Basically Lebanese
This doesn't include the significant fact that Hannibal induced the Romans to cross the freezing cold Trebia River, which many of the troops having to wade through water chest deep. The Romans were thus fighting hypothermia, as well as the Carthaginians. Hannibal had kept his army in camp longer than the Romans, made sure they had a warm meal before the battle, and had them rub oil on their skin to ward of some of the effects of the cold and freezing rain.
I think you never experience real freezing temperature? How oil can withstand freezing temperature, especially for very southern people of carthagena? Something is not correct in the animation of nake gaul warriors...
@@new_svitolad what about he ordered some hot soups from deli store before starts war🤪👍👍
@@sockerfield warrior must fight on empty stomach. If it is full any injury cutting belly is deadly, especially with hot soap filled.
@@new_svitolad I agree 👍
@@new_svitolad
Morale is more imporant than the actual fighting ability of the soldiers or their ability to sustain injurities. Infact the main reason these things are important at all is that they boost moral. Most battles are lost due to the army running away which happens after only fairly small percentage of the soldiers are actually killed. The vast majority of deaths happen after an army has started running away and not in the battle itself. If a battle is won few will die or be injured. In this case, the centre of Hannibal's army routed and many of them died but they were made up of gauls that Hannibal was able replace fairly easily after this battle. Soldiers on a full stomach will feel better and thus be less likely to run away. Ancient warfare is more psychological than physical.
Very good video :D Really like the detail provided and the information provided of what happened during the battle :)
Rome VS Persian Empire
Great way to really tell of these battles. Nice job! Subscribed.
Hannibal set those Gauls up for failure.
Yes! So few people realize or acknowledge this.
The lead sling shot of the Baeleric slingers was almost as deadly as modern bullets.
Yeah . Going through the armor of light tanks and armored vehicles. Who needs guns, when you have slings...
@@nicolafiliber3062 What are you talking about? What do 'light tanks and armored vehicles' have to do with warfare during the Punic Wars? Sheesh!
@@davidmurray5399 You wrote, that slingshots were almost as deadly as modern bullets. Modern bullet originally could pierce the armor of light tanks in the 30s before WWII, if shot from a standard machine gun. So, I thought, if you put Balearic slingers against German T-1, they could do some damage... You think what you state, sunshine.
Very nice reconstruction of this battle. I think the Romans of this period fought in their three line formation of Hasti, Princeps, and Triari. You cannot really model this with a total war engine though.
I mentioned that at the start lol
Why do you say you can't do this in Total War? Even the OG Rome Total War had Hastati, Principes, and Triarii. Just separate them into three lines.
@@MarkHoppusy It is not a real good simulation of the Triple Axes formation that the Republican army used. What the Romans did was to split the basic 8 rank battle line into three battle lines. The Hastati and Principes fought three ranks deep, The Triarii two ranks deep. In game terms, you would have 2 thirty man units and one twenty man unit facting off against one 80 man enemy formation. I admit that this is kind of picky, but this was my line of reasoning for making that statement. I think it does a much better job of modeling cohort battles.
@@cliffordjensen8725 ah makes sense. I think you can modify unit sizes but ultimately it's not as malleable as real groups of soldiers.
@@MarkHoppusy there are mods to where you can stretch units 1 row/line thin
Una inesattezza, ad Annibale dopo l'attraversamento delle Alpi erano rimasti una decina di elefanti.
Interesting the Roman centre made it out of that.
Really brutal looking. I think the older the wars were, the more painful and slow the instruments of death.
Historical battles are by far the best on this channel
A Genuine Battle Of a Superpower[Carthage],LED by the Military genius Hannibal Barca,and the Rising Power Of The Roman Republic...Rome Certainly Earned the Right to Rule by Overcoming an adversary Such as The Punics/Carthage...Excellent imagery🤘👍👍👍👍❤️
Hannibal was a great general. He won many battles. But lost thew war.
He never got the needed support from Carthage and was unable to win over enough Italian tribes to really overcome Rome. After winning Cannae he could have attacked Rome but held back as he was unsure what the Italian people would do. Eventually as well the Roman Navy improved to the point that they became the leading sea power in the mediteranean which by blockading Carthage left Hannibal out to dry. The Romans were good at learning from their mistakes and loses and improving their army constantly.
@@roberthickerty390 Correct. Exact description of what happened. It should also be remembered that Hannibal lost the final battle "at home", in Carthage by Scipio (Africanus) who had fought Hannibal from the first day in Italy and who had learned and understood how to fight him.
@@angelosecchi4053 I still believe he only lost that battle due to his elephants getting spooked and charging back into his own right flank decimating his own men and getting over run before they could get it together. We will never know...
@@roberthickerty390 plus he knew he couldn't hold out a siege on the city of Rome as he didn't have enough supplies or men because as you stated Carthage wouldn't send any reinforcements to the Italian peninsula. So he just roamed around Italy sacking and fighting smaller battles for 10 years or more, can't remember the exact amount of time.
This is an amazing video!
Excellent graphics - if i recall correctly Hannibal forced the battle before the Romans had breakfast thus fighting on an empty stomach. Also the Romans forded the freezing river then had to wait a long stretch before actual fighting - it must have been miserable hungry and cold...
Hannibal was smart and made the Romans Miserable as much as possible before the battle! Too bad, in the end he lost the war.
@@ccptube3468 whats that old quote? "Hannibal knew how to gain a victory but not how to use it", I think it was.
@@theEpicxY I don't think it was up to him though.
The Carthaginian senate refused to send reinforcements and he had no siege equipments to advance and lay siege to Rome.
Hannibal was a realist and military genius, it must have killed him to not be able to advance on Rome.
Yes, he also hid 2,000 men - positioned the night before - in a relatively open area to attack the Romans in an ambush. Outstanding reconnaissance. This battle was the cruder version of the Battle of Cannae, where the Roman infantry center did not escape his colossal trap.
I thought that Hannibal lost most of his War ELEPHANTS crossing the Alps.
After this battle Hannibal only had 1 remaining
he had roughly 100 or so before his crossing
It might have turned out differently if they'd had cavalry instead of "calvalry" :)
turn on CC if my accent bothers you that much 😅
@@WarAndHistory. oh c’mon, then I’d have nothing to bitch about.
@@fred_2021 haha no, you’re right. I don’t know what accent/language pronounces L’s as V’s.
Não demora para lançar o vídeo da batalha do lago trasimene se tu puder faz uma história alternativa em que nível ganha a batalha contra Cipião africano e ataca Roma de pois
Concordo.
Very good. I enjoyed this. 😉
Where did Hannibal get the war elephants?......
North Africa had a native elephant which the Punics used, instead of the Indian elephant which the Greeks used.
Hannibal always had an answer to the Roman's strengths.
Love it!!
Hannibal was willing to sacrifice his precious valuable Elephants for this Battle to reign hell on Rome that is a true admiral quality or General losses don't matter only the gains
Great battle
Un vero piacere di notte.
Wait a minute. With the Romans, you mixed up right and left. What is the right flank is to the right hand of the general who is behind his troops. A right flank clashes with the left flank of the opponent. Got it?
Well spotted 😅
Agreed. The flank descriptions were very confusing.
I might also suggest learning how to pronounce "cavalry". It's not "calvary".
@@indyspotes3310 thanks G your only the 118th person to mention that 👌
@@WarAndHistory.
Would now be a bad time to mention that it's "YOU'RE only the 118th person,,,"? :)
Awesome!
Love it, the Dublin Lad living in the States Narrating 👍💙
Know & have watched others talk about ancient battles. You kept me watching…..Sure we used go to Eng & kick their arse before McMorrow fecked it all up 💚
Hannibal, eternal hero, was about to give FREEDOM to the World, we will never know why he did not devastate and destroy Rome forever, it must have been poetic how this great hero trampled the imperial eagle in Cannae, but Hannibal takes all the laurels, a leader of FREEDOM, HAIL Hannibal !! ⚔🔥
You can like nations better than others, but lets not sugar coat things. If rome was destroyed here carthage would just assume the role of expansionist superpower.
Few have ever actually fought for pure freedom, almost every man fights for freedom of their own people not others.
Even today the "peacekeepers" really just make things work out for them.
Modern day libya was invaded for "freedom" but it actually just turned the area to a warzone and became a target for resource extraction.
@@resentfuldragon england fight for resourses and colonies
Because he had no siege equipment.
Erm , Freedom??? Even Hannibal didn't have freedom, he was beholden to the Carthage Government. I have no idea how free or not free Carthage was. But i have my suspicions there isn't alot of daylight between the two then superpowers. Hannibal as a General though is reknown throughout history and all military training. His drive was revenge combined with brilliance.
The carthage nobles n senators got jealous of him n stopped funding n supporting him...anyway they pay the price
ESPECTACULAR, FELICITACIONES
The Namibian cavalry rode without saddle nor reins.
*Numidian
Hannibal's cause was doomed from the start. Rome's philosophy was that they didn't need to win every battle ,they just had to win the LAST battle. How many legions did Hannibal destroy? And they came right back with twice as many. Almost like they were ants.
No, Hannibal screwed up by not marching immediately on a defenceless Rome. His tactics were flawed ~(hoping Roman allies would turn on Rome) and then running around Italy for years was a disaster which ended up in the complete destruction of Carthage. He was also hampered by internal Carthaginian politics who did not want to see him succeed.
@@GHOST5663
No, not marching on Rome was very likely the right call. After Cannae Rome still had 10000 soldiers manning the walls of Rome and within a week were able to raise 8000 more soldiers. They also had 11000 surviors of Cannae that likely would have made to Rome faster than Hannibal could because Hannibal would be traveling through enemy territory, so they probably would have been able to muster 29000 troops to defend Rome. These numbers aren't enough to beat Hannibal in battle but they are definitely enough to defend a fortified city from Hannibal's army. He can't starve the city out either as he would be in the middle of enemy territory with no way of supplying his army if they tried to blockade the gates of Rome. The only possible way Hannibal could have benefited from marching on Rome would have been if it had spooked Rome to make them surrender to Hannibal.
Hannibal's italian campaign was hardly a disaster, he managed to cause southern Italy to defect and Italy's second most prominent city. He also kept at least 100000 Roman troops occupied dealing with his much smaller army at all times. That's 100000 soldiers who aren't sent to other theatres of war. Had the other Carthaginian generals been competent they could have taken Sicilly, kept a foothold in Sicily and kicked the Romans out of Spain. Sadly for Hannibal the other Carthaginian generals are terrible so they lose basically every battle he isn't there for.
Roman's officer's are a bunch of cowards. Fleeing the battlefield, without telling the other heavy infantry.
Looking at this, I wonder how many American men could fight this way? How many could actually survive living as they had to live.
given time ... all of them... we would adapt.
I suspect you could find some hints by studying the American Revolution and the hardships they endured.
@@indyspotes3310 I agree. Those men put up with hardships beyond anything we see today. We have too many people today that if they lose their phone they cannot function.
Nicely done
Fun Fact: Hannibal's elephants were scared of squealing pigs once Rome set them on fire and they started squealing the elephants got scared and ran, Blessed Be.
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Why were battles in this time period so big in comparison to, say, Medieval battles? Am I correct in thinking European warfare did not again reach this sort of scale until the 1600/1700s? Or was it earlier?
Only a few elephants came down from the mountains.
Great battle 🙏
what is ur gpu
RTX 2080 tI
I don't understand why the Roman army in history was more concentrated in its infantry than cavalry.
Easier to train, cheaper and the were better in most situation. Good luck tryng to defend a bridge with just cavalry. Also frontal charges where suicide for horses at that time
I guess the Roman generals wouldn't have appreciated them breaking out in Christmas carols, praising the soon to be King of Kings
Hannibal Genius second to none
Very good illustration and awesome graphics but it would be even betta if the talking would be in latin language and english ( subtitles) sounds very odd.
Cav -al- ry, now repeat after me...... CAVALRY
Turn on CC my guy, I have an accent so it sounds like Calvary
@TotalWarBattles ps video is good. Thank you for the upload.
😆
What happened to all the dead bodies?
There didnt seem to be much strategy/tactics to the Romans.
incorrect, they were winning until Hannibal's maneuver
Aníbal bem que tentou , mais Roma! já tinha um bom planejamento de estratégias para combaterem mesmos com as adversidades.
SEMBILAN BULAN......
SUNAT ISTRI mu... SUNAT....
SEMBILAN BULAN....
SUNAT ISTRI ISTRI mu.....
SUNAT.... SUNAT........
Again, great summation and dramatization of this battle.
I always wondered how they gave there orders out in battle specially if they hid ppl how do they know when to attack if they can not see what’s going on in the battle
Реконструкция основана на рассказе последнего легионера, дожившего до наших дней.
так же как на куликовском поле я даже знаю соседа его в аптеку пропускают без очереди , там даже написано для ветеранов куликовской битвы без очереди🤣
Cannibal VS Comans.
I always wonder why all films/documentaries/ on Roman, show Roman defeated, losers, destroyed by enemies, when actually they built the largest western empire that lasted over 1000 years!!!
Io abito qui vicino in provincia di piacenza e ho visto tutto
what mods did u use?
Description
Liked it! Just one thing though...
CAV ... CAV... CAVALRY!!!
Calvary is the hill they say Jesus died on.
You keep saying cal instead of cav.
Hard to pay attention and hear Calvary over and over again.
Ugh sorry had to say
Wait, didnt just a couple of elephants actually make the alpine crossing? And wasn't it spring-time?
Yeah I think only 1 made it.
@@claysimpkins7490 Then why are there dozens of elephants here in the snow? :p
@@gard86 well only 1 made it, hannibals elephant. You do realize the trek he made through the Alps right?
It could possibly do with some more blood.🤣
بربر شمال افريقيا .من نوميد وقرطاج لبين ومورتانين لا يتحدون لو اتحدو .لحتلو العالم في دللك الزمان .كانو لديهم افضل فرسان دللك العصر النوميدين ..
قرطاج فينقية
Italy Delenda est!
Is this really Med2? It looks like it’s definitely Rome2
It's rome 2
The weak video: I even haven´t knew who are Romans and who are Carthaginians.
Poor. The confusion over left and right flanks in this vid is awful. Right flank of one army does NOT face the right flank of the other army.
It's Cavalry ,Not Calvery .
Why does the narrator keeps calling Cavalry "Calvary"... 🤦♂️😳
He’s not, he has an accent
@@WarAndHistory. No. Listen carefully. I have the same "accent".. Irish. He's saying Calvary... That's a location in Palestine where the Crucifixion happened. The word is Cavalry.
it’s CAVALRY, not “calvary”
Just imagine today’s animal rights activist with something with this 😃
I guess times were a little different back then 😃
CAVALRY not “CALVARY.” Cavalry are mounted soldiers. “Calvary” is where Jesus supposedly was crucified.
Incorrect... its Horse Bois!!!!
It's CAVALRY - cav al ry - NOT calvary. Please learn the difference and pronounce CAV AL RY correctly.
Rome had way too many trash generals
It’s cav alry not Calvary. Calvary is where Jesus was crucified
Почему снег идёт? Откуда в Италии снегопад. Бред
Βελτιώστε την μετάφραση, είναι....απλώς μετρια
Hannibal was black dude was from Africa
Excellent video. A review of the battle for me. Loved it.
One small thing? Please learn to pronounce "cavalry," 😆 Thanks!
Oh my! I see a bunch of people razzed you on "calvary." Sorry for piling on. 😆
I have an accent my guy... but glad to see someone in the comments with some self awareness as opposed to all these NPCs👍
@@WarAndHistory.: guess what? JUST ABOUT every other channel where the word "cavalry" is frequently said, the narrators make the same "error." Those of us who quibble about such things should NEVER work on submarines or space stations. 😆
La batalla de Trebia no fue así. ¿Dónde está el río Trebia, que los romanos cruzaron calándose de frío hasta los huesos? Faltan todas las maniobras previas con las que Hannibal condujo a los romanos a la derrota. Este video es un desastre y desinforma.
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Trebbia with 2 b !!!
Ponlo en español.
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Rome woulda crushed the ottomans
@@malekith5529 👶🏻
Hanni didnt lost ele.
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Iberian.....
Sorry, I do not know what battle this is supposed to be but it certainly does not support Lake Trasimene. Longinus was a typical patrician idiot who thought he knew best. The Romans moved forward, in fog along a narrow front, deaf and blind without scouting ahead and were drawn into a trap by Barca's forces engaging and then withdrawing pulling in the romans until cutting off their retreat and then attacking the flank. The romans were trapped, essentially in line of column, hit hard with the lake on the right and no escape route.
thanks for spotting that my friend.. here is lake Trasimene = ruclips.net/video/PlVGPgA0rog/видео.html
It’s “cavalry” not “calvary”
Please do not documentary
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@@WarAndHistory. mean do not voice over
@@AbdullahFarooq21 why
@@WarAndHistory. because cinematic battles looks more good with pute sound effects please do not voice over you can add texts
I’ll be rotating back and forth 👍🏻
This is the worst description of the battle I've read. You forgot the Romans standing for hours in the cold weather w/o breakfast. Then again forcing the Romans to wade across the freezing river. Hannibal had his men rested and fed a hot meal. There's lots more I;m leaving out. Man do your research much better.
Read the top comment that’s why it’s pinned
Cavalry, not calvary.
Calvery? 😂😂😂
CAVELRY.
its actually spelled "Cavalry" you autist
Cavalry not Calvary and Legionary not Legionnaire. Shame, otherwise interesting
Where does it say Calvary??? Please show me…
Not "Calvary" but "Cavalry"
turn on CC if my accent bothers you that much 😅
Do you speak English? It’s not calllvary , The word is C A V
🤡 you
Calvary? Cavalry! Learn your words!
🤡you
And now they’re all dead all those guys every last one.