Pastors & Power: How to Avoid Unhealthy Leadership - Diane Langberg - 13 FrontStage BackStage
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Most pastors do not enter the ministry with the intention of misusing their power and authority, and yet instances of abuse occur. In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by internationally recognized psychologist and counselor, Dr. Diane Langberg, as they discuss some of the unrecognized trappings of power and how to develop a healthy understanding of ministry leadership.
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Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Diane Langberg on why some pastors work harder at protecting the institution of Church rather than the people of the local church: “Part of what happens, and has certainly happened in the American church, is that we see ourselves as serving the system, rather than children who are called to obedience to Jesus Christ.”
Diane Langberg on a key component pastors need in their lives to help maintain healthy leadership: “I would encourage all those in leadership to have people in their lives with whom they can speak the truth, and who will say it back to them. And a place where they can be safe…. In terms of understanding ourselves, we need other voices to help us do that.”
Diane Langberg on the danger of pastors misusing their God-given authority: “Yes, we're created in the image of God and therefore have power and authority in this world and with others, but it must look like him. It isn't there to feed our goals, our higher numbers, our fame, all of those things, which is where it gets very messed up. Because we use the power that has been God-given not to bear his image and look like him, but to gain for ourselves.”
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In order for a pastor to receive care from the church when they need it, they would have to be humble enough to acknowledge their need and receive care. Many pastors I’ve rubbed shoulders with can’t or won’t do this- even when their insecurity and woundedness is plain to the “sheep” around them.
Humility heals or preserves you from lots of ills that afflict the proud.
Humility is key. Here is a great conversation on humility >> ruclips.net/video/2tsL59xXd68/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Hope you find it interesting... blessings!
I was at a church for 10/11 years...in leadership...cooking/feeding for 50-100 every week ....my heart wasnt to get recognized....it was to serve....
I found plout after i had to leave...the leadership didnt like from the beginning...
What I went through left me with SEVERE PTSD ...THE man who says hes pastor did exactly what u explained ....Theres MUCH MUCH more...💔😭🤦
HELP!!
One will not be able to make disciples and raise up leaders if they are not transparent and humble enough to own their weaknesses. Excellent leaders are surrounded by others who hold them accountable. They realize it is for their own good.
Gerald, yes, that is the great challenge. Are leaders willing to be authentically humble and own their weaknesses? Do they believe in the leaders around them and take onboard the sincere feedback they are providing to them? Great insight here: "Excellent leaders are surrounded by others who hold them accountable. They realize it is for their own good."
Well said.
This was very helpful as I have stepped away recently from my home church of 6 years due to new pastors spiritual abuse. Thank you
About protecting the system, unfortunately is not only in America. Unfortunately it is all over 😢
THANK GOD FOR THIS LIVE!!
Glad you found this episode meaningful. Blessings!
Never put any pastor on a pedestal. They are not God.
Trust me if you meat a really good person loving and esteeming that person high is very natural. The problem is when the church allow this to blind their eyes....or when the.ministers begin to take that love for granted and think of that love as their entitlement and not unto God for the sake of Christ.
I just stopped going to organized church for the first time in my life, because of unrepentant spiritual and verbal abuse from my pastor. I am a widow. Somehow, I am now evil to most of whom I thought were my brothers and sisters in Christ, I thought we agape loved each other. I was not the only one abused over all these years, the "pastor" has a blood trail quite far behind him. The rejection and abuse culture is almost worse than the abuse itself. THIS IS NOT CHURCH. I no longer want to participate in the audience of performances from the pulpit. "The theif comes to steal, kill, and destroy." These so called pastor's, and their precious puppet leadership team, are the thieves that The Good Shepherd was referring to in this verse in John 10. We don't have a clue what a scriptural gathering of God's people really is in the western world. Right now my 5 children and I gather with a couple dozen of compassionate believers who also left that so called "church". Those that left were either abused themselves, recognized our trial as true, or saw the claws and fangs of the wolf, ever so cleverly disguised as a sheep, pretending to be a child of God. The blasphemy in the pulpits and church leadership. Puts a whole meaning on "Thou shalt not use the name of the LORD your God in vain."
We are a mess, and we are deeply loved by the LORD, while disdained by this world. Who knew that that being spotted by the world is so prevalent inside the 4 walls we call "church". James 1:26-27
#letGodbetrue
I get it. I'm right there with you. God bless you and your group.
@@StandUp777 Thank you for your compassion. 1 Thessalonians 3:12
@@christine_fernandez you are most welcome. God loves you so much!
@@StandUp777 Oh, how He loves us!
Healthy people are able to be self reflective. The fact that a certain Pastor or leader doesn’t is the only clue you need to determine that he is not healthy.
It seems that abusive pastors actually never learn to apply the gospel to their own lives and their own suffering and seek to make their own "gospel" by making sacrifices of those who are under their care as offerings of atonement to their own hearts and wounds. =(
A sad reality, unfortunately, in many cases. This is one of the reasons we are committed to working with pastors, to help them overcome some of their own brokenness. God can work through us if we are willing to allow him to work in us. Blessings!
They should be confronted every time they abuse their flock.
There are several gifts Paul spoke of: Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, and Teachers. Where is Pastor? And why is the "pastor" the most prominent and treated as the most important? Where does scripture teach or model this? Where does it teach that one person has authority over a group of people? Pastor gets a salary plus offerings, benefits, cars, homes, etc. Where does scripture teach that? It doesn't. THAT is the root of the problem. Organized religion and a booming business that has zero to do with the true church. Just read Acts. Bad root, bad fruit.
Exactly!!!
The tree is bad the fruit would also be evil.
I think what is sadly lacking in the church today, by the congregation, is discernment. The pastors say all the things they have been trained to say, to make themselves look good (instead of lifting up the Lord) and people fall for it hook, line and sinker, please people Wake Up, pastors do not replace Jesus, most are broken, fallen, sinful, fallible humans like the rest of us, to greater or lesser degrees please, pray for discernment!
Pastors are just human being, they need not to act as if they are superpower. They have no power at all outside God. I don't know if they are really called by God. All saved Christians are called by God for His purpose and glory. If the pastors are special why does in the book of Jeremiah called pastors as brutish?
Bro one humble suggestion.
If you hosting a guest your intro cannot be 4 odd minutes in before your viewers get to hear from him/her.
Try to improve this please.
Mark Cancia, The Salvation Army
Blessings, Mark! Praying for you and The Salvation Army
More pastors are already controlled by the devil because of their greediness for filthy lucre. They want easy money that's why they too are no longer open to advices from other pastors. Their assistants are younger so tbat tbey could be easily manipulated and dismissed if they commit mistakes.
Thank you for good talk together. What is teh limit for not good pastorship? I have been suffering from not getting engaged talks for 40 years, priests haven't dedicated themselves more than just during the talk,, not got to know me, not gone deeper where change and growth can happen. OK, normal ones can manage themeselves, but not when in dire need in harsher situations. But maybe it is I who am wrong in this respect? They themselves certainly have said they don't have to do anything further from some esae in the moment, support more superficially without engagement.MAybe itäs me needing sth outside their scope/task. And it should be the (Swed.) Diacon/helper (Idk the term of profession in English), since only they can interact with society..
Sorry. It is difficult to understand what you are saying.
I have friends we met that were pastors probably surprised and confused too. I know they made jokes cause it was so ridiculous
Love the advice to have counselors from another denomination. Otherwise you are just working out of an echo chamber.
Thank you. Blessings!
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