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Worked with these, Ghettotecs and Alloytecs when they were new and frankly thought they were all boat anchors. But good on him for doing something different and following the dream he had when he was a P plater. Yes he could have put an LS in it but then he'd be just like everyone else. Respect mate. And good content FB.
We were given a VY ute *FOR FREE!* ... and have a *3582 on the shelf* ... and an *intercooler* ... Could be some steam pipe, stainless, and a few hours hanging off a welder from some budget friendly fun!
@@HAZZA24937 I hear that too. I just tell them the ecotec is just an evolution of the older V6s and the motor had form at the Indy 500 and is cousin of the Repco F1 engine. People tend to shut up after that.
@@brendonburgess9721I used to hate these engines and always regarded them as rubbish and gutless but having owned a few of em including a boosted one for several years it’s changed my opinion!
@@needmoreboost6369 imo they should have been turbo from factory. It's like they're made for it. They sound so hollow and low compression normally, throw on a turbo, they liven up and sound way better
Excellent Joe Average build on a budget, good work mate, disregard the haters, most probably couldn't do what you can, and have done. Keep up the good work
@@ackjaycuz8848 I’m guessing it was setup incorrectly and wasn’t properly tuned. 7 psi leaning out is more dangerous than running 15-20psi with correct fueling.
@@TheWretchedWorld nah was tuned at a shop and custom kit I have turbo'd NA Barras to make 400kw reliable. Just haven't been able to see a reliable eco turbo daily
@@ackjaycuz8848 Mine has been going since march 2020 and the only issues ive had was 1 coil pack going out and a heater tap failing. Both unrelated to the turbo setup just old age. I can think of several others all running at least 12psi all headache free. You are either unlucky or the tuner doesnt know what they are doing.
This was always the dream set-up back in the day, my 2nd car was a burgundy VS Berlina, I thought it was the s#*t especially since my 1st car was a Camira
With the way young guys are buying up AU falcons and stuff, these could be the new go-to for cheap easy power. Just look at the prices for old LS1s now.
We never appreciated the 3800 till it was gone, In australia we just need to see how the USA loves them. Excellent build, great Fullboost info delivering real facts as usual 😊 So to find a VY L67 4L60
Got a VS from 1995 still, high compression build, forged, balanced, ported, high-ratio cam & rockers (514 lift) build on an ecotec with a 4l60e 5DD. Great fun daily, kills stock V8 manuals of the line, XR6 turbos, suped up Mazda 3s... Just good fun. It's no drag race beast just my fun daily that's been built to last another 400k 👌
When you think about it.its tuning and sensors keeping both the V6 and the Barra alive.take that away they botb blow up at nothing power...coolant issues are easy to overcome if you no how
Noice👍 Serious question...is the older buick 3.8 more responsive/parts available to upgrades or is the 3.8 ecotec better supported/performing? Great vid guys👌
Eco are better supported but have way more junk parts on the market. These days the old Buick have little stuff for them but what is available or custom ordered/made are top quality. Also when it comes to boost the older engines are better due to stronger pistons, rods and thick heads and suitable CR for boost and detonate far less for the same timing, also the rod ratio is massively better on the old ones. The only real advantage the eco has for boost is the cross bolted mains but as far as I have seen neither have issues regarding the mains/caps anyway.
LOVE IT!!! Good on him. I don't know why more people don't turbo these things and the Buick V6 from the earlier Commodores... That was pretty impressive, and all on an unopened motor by the sound of it... With a Hi Stall this thing would embarrass many LS powered Commos
@@cancan8467 Don't be mad, embrace it... If he fitted an appropriate sized converter and changed the diff gears this would be running low 12's... All with a stock, unopened Ecotec
@@cancan8467 what’s silly? My uncle’s mate got pumped by a supercharged V6. In a Supercharged V8 commodore. It was either Supercharged V8 or Turbocharged I don’t exactly remember but he got pumped in the race. So nothing is silly about that guy’s comment
Jesus, did anybody else hear that high-pitched frequency In the background of the audio? Was like nails on a chalkboard. Car is dope, but dang that audio killed that video for me.
Love the video as always ...what's that anoying ringing or beep noise u can here the whole way threw yous talking ...is that the mic doing that ? Only on this video it's doing it ?
@@Mikey_Perth That's one of the main reasons I stuck with cars with the pre-ecotec. Exceptional longevity, reliability and good on fuel. I had a 2015 nissan company car about 5 years ago but went back to a VP after having several major issues with the nissan leaving me stranded. Also very dangerous when the traction control kicked in a few times making me lose control and it would always turn back on every time you started the car. Another engineer at work ended up having it, he too gave it back and bought a Skoda haha.
Push it to the manga Walk along the razor's edge But don't look down just keep your head, or you'll be finished Open up the manga Past the point of no return Reached the top, but still you gotta learn how to keep it
Nothing wrong with the old Motorola chip in these delcos.. just need to find a old laptop to run DOS.. I've been able to squeeze 600hp with a 3bar MAP and temp sensor in the lim... hard part if finding a Tuna (PUN INTENDED) that wants to work with it.
@@jakebennett2613 Plus The1's enhanced BIN is well ahead of kalmaker. I remember the first time I came across kalmaker after nearly a decade of using TP and 12P on my own and other people's projects, I thought "wtf is this sh!t?" parallel printer port license dongle lol.
not bad, would boot along pretty well, guess the diffrence is a green top will be making well over 300kw with same boost. but nice to see something diffrent
@@fullboost most of those are the fault of the owner not wanting to spend any money refreshing a 20 year old engine and expecting big power out of a 400k taxi motor with thrashed bearings
I changed it from the flash based as they are shit for boost. it has a NVRAM chip in it now so I can tune realtime, and it reads twice the amount of cylair as the flash based.
And the 5L were about 120rwKw, HSV 185 package were about 130-135. I restored a VP a few years ago and did a mild 3.8. Baby 212/212 cam with 470 lift, higher comp pistons. And the usual pacemakers, CAI box etc etc... That made a tad over 140 at the wheels. Certainly woke it up. Much bigger gains than I expected for the mods (mainly cam). Never dyno'd mine before the restro but on the same dyno a stock VN made about 90 at the wheels and for an experiment we loaded the HSV SV3800 tune and it lost power to sub 80rwKw lol.
With the stupid money people are asking for clapped out old barras and ls motors, I could see being not a bad option for a fairly low budget. Even be good for swapping into an old 4x4 or something. 250rwkw is really going to wake up an old Land Rover or something like that.
@@ozzylambo8793 No mate, LS are great engines it's just that the cunts are fucking everywhere, like fucking EVERYWHERE to the point its just getting very very boring... Even Barras are becoming that way. It's just way more interesting to see something different, to see someone build something that ain't a fucken LS or Barra...to many sheep.
Love a good turbo eco. The l67 is the same rods as a stock eco. But yeah they have lower compression. 8.5-1 vs 9.0 for eco’s. The rods you want to make 700hp come out of a L32 engine. Found in usa. Stock eco will live. If you go to a mls head gasket. Stock gaskets are the weak point.
The rods for l67 definitely are beefier and have a different pin diameter. Ring gap is the biggest importance to get these to survive under boost. I wouldn't waste my time with l32 rods they're pretty heavy and not cheap like they used to be. A stock set new and delivered with tax is $650-800. Have arp bolts fitted and then resized , theirs $800-1000 The forged rods with arp hardware work out cheaper and have a better factory accuracy balance. Head gaskets are an issue on them but the MLS are known for issues on these too. Unsure if it's non reccomended Ra finish on blocks and heads and people just slap them or what the issue is. Studs and stock gaskets are also a tried combo. A lot harder to seperate a gasket if you get zero head lift.
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Defo more of this type of content guys! Meet the owners etc 🤙
A 2K Buick.....sweet!!
Great to see regular people builds :)
Worked with these, Ghettotecs and Alloytecs when they were new and frankly thought they were all boat anchors. But good on him for doing something different and following the dream he had when he was a P plater.
Yes he could have put an LS in it but then he'd be just like everyone else. Respect mate. And good content FB.
Gode has spoken
@@d_arnz93 werri gud
I don’t know, I’d argue this is one of the best engines made. That’s just me though haha
@@TurboTPI not just you
We were given a VY ute *FOR FREE!* ... and have a *3582 on the shelf* ... and an *intercooler* ...
Could be some steam pipe, stainless, and a few hours hanging off a welder from some budget friendly fun!
Doesn't even sound like it's a question of 'if' at this point. So WHEN will this be happening?
@KLJ Performance Gotta get Motorvation37 out of the way first then we'll see what other parts we need to have a crack at it
For the people who say why bother with the V6 have you ever heard of a Grand National? Same basic motor
Exactly. Obviously never heard of a GN
So many commodore nuts scoff at me when I suggest doing this and I bring up the Grand National and they say “huh… that’s a different motor though?”
@@HAZZA24937 I hear that too. I just tell them the ecotec is just an evolution of the older V6s and the motor had form at the Indy 500 and is cousin of the Repco F1 engine. People tend to shut up after that.
@@brendonburgess9721I used to hate these engines and always regarded them as rubbish and gutless but having owned a few of em including a boosted one for several years it’s changed my opinion!
@@needmoreboost6369 imo they should have been turbo from factory. It's like they're made for it. They sound so hollow and low compression normally, throw on a turbo, they liven up and sound way better
Excellent Joe Average build on a budget, good work mate, disregard the haters, most probably couldn't do what you can, and have done. Keep up the good work
Love these budget builds, takes me back to the earily days of zoom magazine.
Good old days
Love it. Sleeper. I know some people hate the mang, but Porsches sound almost the same and no one gets upset about that.
Nicely done! Good simple setup also a respectable kick of power for the amount of work done on that engine!
One of the cleanest VYs I've seen in a while, love the budget minded build.
Please do an update when he puts in the new block!
cheers. it comes up good on video. It has a few dings and scratches
@@jakebennett2613 wouldn't be a daily without a few dings and scratches 👍
Pretty good power from a stock 3.8! Imagine one of the old C.O.M.E racing 4.2 strokers with the huffa??? 👌👌👌
Or just pistons and rods to help it.
Cornfedboost is building a turbo stroker V6 he also sells turbo manifolds check him out
Pistons rods bigger turbo bigger fuel system e85 head studs turbo cam Valve springs💪
Really good power with so little changes :)
Hope you guys get the views you deserve for this kind of content. Nice work as always !
Very similar build to mine, but im on e85 and running ls7 style maf card on the delco pcm. Great reliable daily shitter with a bit of punch.
Reliable?? How man I had a safe 7psi that shat it self
@@ackjaycuz8848 I’m guessing it was setup incorrectly and wasn’t properly tuned. 7 psi leaning out is more dangerous than running 15-20psi with correct fueling.
@@TheWretchedWorld nah was tuned at a shop and custom kit I have turbo'd NA Barras to make 400kw reliable. Just haven't been able to see a reliable eco turbo daily
@@ackjaycuz8848 Mine has been going since march 2020 and the only issues ive had was 1 coil pack going out and a heater tap failing. Both unrelated to the turbo setup just old age. I can think of several others all running at least 12psi all headache free. You are either unlucky or the tuner doesnt know what they are doing.
That high pitch whistle was a bit vexing, but still nice tidy sleeper
Nice one! Such a simple setup but be fun!
I'd say the tinted tail lights are holding it back.
Shhhhhh you'd be wrong
Agreed, though you could always chuck some VZ Calais Front and Rear lights...
Yeah.... too much weight
Great to see people going the road least travelled and making great power with the original style engine 👌
This was always the dream set-up back in the day, my 2nd car was a burgundy VS Berlina, I thought it was the s#*t especially since my 1st car was a Camira
With the way young guys are buying up AU falcons and stuff, these could be the new go-to for cheap easy power. Just look at the prices for old LS1s now.
We never appreciated the 3800 till it was gone,
In australia we just need to see how the USA loves them.
Excellent build, great Fullboost info delivering real facts as usual 😊
So to find a VY L67 4L60
Got a VS from 1995 still, high compression build, forged, balanced, ported, high-ratio cam & rockers (514 lift) build on an ecotec with a 4l60e 5DD. Great fun daily, kills stock V8 manuals of the line, XR6 turbos, suped up Mazda 3s... Just good fun. It's no drag race beast just my fun daily that's been built to last another 400k 👌
It's not blue and a Ute by any chance.
@@xxxneoxxx no mate, Botanica sedan.
Up the mang 🤘
Love the budget builds. Good on him last of the Holdens he wont loose money thats a keeper.
Actually sounded great on the dyno
Ah wow. That looks like fun. Can we get more videos on it? Does old mate have a channel we can follow?
nah no channel.
What would you wanna see on this car ???
Great budget build, good on him!
When you think about it.its tuning and sensors keeping both the V6 and the Barra alive.take that away they botb blow up at nothing power...coolant issues are easy to overcome if you no how
what's causing the high pitched ringing? it's killing me 😅
F OATH. so annoying
Spot on well done 👍🏼
Noice👍
Serious question...is the older buick 3.8 more responsive/parts available to upgrades or is the 3.8 ecotec better supported/performing?
Great vid guys👌
Eco are better supported but have way more junk parts on the market. These days the old Buick have little stuff for them but what is available or custom ordered/made are top quality. Also when it comes to boost the older engines are better due to stronger pistons, rods and thick heads and suitable CR for boost and detonate far less for the same timing, also the rod ratio is massively better on the old ones. The only real advantage the eco has for boost is the cross bolted mains but as far as I have seen neither have issues regarding the mains/caps anyway.
@@3800S1 Hey thanks for the info. Much appreciated 🙏👌
LOVE IT!!! Good on him. I don't know why more people don't turbo these things and the Buick V6 from the earlier Commodores... That was pretty impressive, and all on an unopened motor by the sound of it... With a Hi Stall this thing would embarrass many LS powered Commos
That is just a silly comment ,
@@cancan8467 Don't be mad, embrace it... If he fitted an appropriate sized converter and changed the diff gears this would be running low 12's... All with a stock, unopened Ecotec
@@cancan8467 what is silly mate
@@cancan8467 what’s silly? My uncle’s mate got pumped by a supercharged V6. In a Supercharged V8 commodore. It was either Supercharged V8 or Turbocharged I don’t exactly remember but he got pumped in the race. So nothing is silly about that guy’s comment
Awesome content guys 👌🏼 different but cool car
Jesus, did anybody else hear that high-pitched frequency In the background of the audio? Was like nails on a chalkboard. Car is dope, but dang that audio killed that video for me.
Yeah some background noise coming out of a factory I'm not sure what it was.
@@fullboost I don't know if my ear just picks up that frequency more, but dang, that was rough haha
Nah, sounds like electromagnetic interference.
Yeah, it got me too.
Took me too long to realise it was the video, thought I was having a stroke or something
Builts like this are cool be good to see more
Thats sick, some stock tail lights and shes a beaut
Love the video as always ...what's that anoying ringing or beep noise u can here the whole way threw yous talking ...is that the mic doing that ? Only on this video it's doing it ?
hell yeah brother...
So this is un opened just turbo etc bolted on ? Sounds good awesome build i want to do something like this
Very good video.
Nice Super mag 👌 👍
700km a week! Thats mint
I'm doing about 800-1100km a week in my clapped out VP. Damn things won't die.
@@3800S1 generally impressed!
@@Mikey_Perth That's one of the main reasons I stuck with cars with the pre-ecotec. Exceptional longevity, reliability and good on fuel.
I had a 2015 nissan company car about 5 years ago but went back to a VP after having several major issues with the nissan leaving me stranded. Also very dangerous when the traction control kicked in a few times making me lose control and it would always turn back on every time you started the car. Another engineer at work ended up having it, he too gave it back and bought a Skoda haha.
The Buick 3.8 V6 is tough as nails
@James Doe ?? That's what it comes with from the factory
@James Doe buick 3.8 is what the ecotecs that same factory in all pre vz commodores were.
@@dilsher12 it's a ecotec not a buick. similar engine but has its differences
Pretty sure the last of the Buicks went into VNs VPs VRs
@@Khalid-gw4gw my VT had an ecotec not a buick. Ecotecs I believe started in the VS.. I think
Push it to the manga
Walk along the razor's edge
But don't look down just keep your head, or you'll be finished
Open up the manga
Past the point of no return
Reached the top, but still you gotta learn how to keep it
alot of people rag on turbo ecotecs but stock motors with a set of valve springs can handle 400rwhp all day. big increase from stock.
Nothing wrong with the old Motorola chip in these delcos.. just need to find a old laptop to run DOS.. I've been able to squeeze 600hp with a 3bar MAP and temp sensor in the lim... hard part if finding a Tuna (PUN INTENDED) that wants to work with it.
You don't need to run DOS, TunerPro runs on Windows and can be used to tune these.
Depending if you want to run tuner pro or Kalmaker, I've been running Kalmaker for over a decade as that what was available back then.
@@TinShed kalmaker is way too expensive for what it is. for that kind of money you may aswell spend abit more on a haltech.
@@jakebennett2613 Plus The1's enhanced BIN is well ahead of kalmaker. I remember the first time I came across kalmaker after nearly a decade of using TP and 12P on my own and other people's projects, I thought "wtf is this sh!t?" parallel printer port license dongle lol.
kalmaker is shit
What the heck is that ringing through out the video🥹
Love it
not bad, would boot along pretty well, guess the diffrence is a green top will be making well over 300kw with same boost. but nice to see something diffrent
Judging by how many broken green tops we've seen lately maybe not. 🤔☺️👍
@@fullboost most of those are the fault of the owner not wanting to spend any money refreshing a 20 year old engine and expecting big power out of a 400k taxi motor with thrashed bearings
@@anthonypllu3864 I saw one of those green top things on a pallet at the wrecking yard today, made me think of all the youtube comments about them.
Green top barras must be too expensive nowaydays. :)
Love as good sleeper 😎
Go the 3800 👍
Best daily.
How is that 4l60e living. Here in the states they brake in normal applications
with a select few mods and proper tuning they last...... most arent built or setup right so they break.
absolute piece of trash transmission
Decent power!
$2k Ecojet?
Huh would be interested to see if I could do it on my ZB Calais V
Eco techs came out with 200 at the flywheels so once is gone through a slop box probably around 150 ar the wheels
Not 200kw
Should update to a VY ECU, flash based tuning instead of memcal
I changed it from the flash based as they are shit for boost. it has a NVRAM chip in it now so I can tune realtime, and it reads twice the amount of cylair as the flash based.
The old 147/152kw Ecotec made 90-100wkws back in the day..
Pretty well spot on. My mates VX Ecotec auto with an exhaust and a panel filter made 95rwkw, I doubt either of the modifications helped though haha
@@boostbogan I remember back in the day the EF/EL and the AU would make a tickle over 100wkws..
And the 5L were about 120rwKw, HSV 185 package were about 130-135.
I restored a VP a few years ago and did a mild 3.8. Baby 212/212 cam with 470 lift, higher comp pistons. And the usual pacemakers, CAI box etc etc... That made a tad over 140 at the wheels. Certainly woke it up. Much bigger gains than I expected for the mods (mainly cam).
Never dyno'd mine before the restro but on the same dyno a stock VN made about 90 at the wheels and for an experiment we loaded the HSV SV3800 tune and it lost power to sub 80rwKw lol.
@@3800S1 JMM was getting 170wkw out of EF/EL’s with head, cam and exhaust and no ECU tuning..
Is it possible to get flutter sound on it?
YEAH BOI
179hp@flywheel standard on an l67
Refreshing to see something most mechanically minded peeps could do
Why aren’t you running water through the turbo
It wasn't thirsty
I'm a Holden guy .. but I hate commo v6's , roughest running bags of garbage.. I have, and will always prefer to own a I6 be it ford Nissan or Toyota.
Not the 3.8 they’re tough as, alloys are a waste of space, though
@@mitchell5064 Tough but still crap.
Insane opinion
V6's are just shit
Each to their own
The old eco are a tad underrated
Is the opposite side plenum part of the kit or is it modified that way???
you can buy them separately
With the stupid money people are asking for clapped out old barras and ls motors, I could see being not a bad option for a fairly low budget. Even be good for swapping into an old 4x4 or something. 250rwkw is really going to wake up an old Land Rover or something like that.
Awesome build great info, roughly how much for a conversion like this ? 🇦🇺💯🍻😎
if you get someone to build it for you about 14k. this is all backyard built so it owes me about 8k including the car
Cost under 4500 $$$
running turbo on ecojet nice but msd coils thats a crime worse then stock ones
Mine got 130kw at the wheels @346,000 k's
Congratulations, you are part of the 130kw club
Basic questions were not asked. What did it cost ??? U state budget build. What was the budget 🥴 ???
$8k including the initial car
Id rather see a review on the ek civic in the background
There you go. 👉
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benchtorque shout out - "tinted tail lights, not legal, not a street car"
Tinted windows ain’t legal but I bet you got them. Does that make your car not a street car? Peanut.
@@ozzylambo8793 hear that whooshing noise? that's the joke going over your head.
Yea cool joke that no1 liked. Or understood.
Full boost didn’t even like it. Let’s face it if it wasn’t me commenting they wouldn’t have even liked your reply.
Ah yes, the ol' 'I tint my lights so they work less.' 🤦♂️
What's that horrible noise?
My ears are ringing...
More interesting than another boring LS....🤦
Only a Barra fairy would say that.
@@ozzylambo8793 No mate, LS are great engines it's just that the cunts are fucking everywhere, like fucking EVERYWHERE to the point its just getting very very boring... Even Barras are becoming that way. It's just way more interesting to see something different, to see someone build something that ain't a fucken LS or Barra...to many sheep.
Love a good turbo eco. The l67 is the same rods as a stock eco. But yeah they have lower compression. 8.5-1 vs 9.0 for eco’s. The rods you want to make 700hp come out of a L32 engine. Found in usa. Stock eco will live. If you go to a mls head gasket. Stock gaskets are the weak point.
The rods for l67 definitely are beefier and have a different pin diameter.
Ring gap is the biggest importance to get these to survive under boost.
I wouldn't waste my time with l32 rods they're pretty heavy and not cheap like they used to be. A stock set new and delivered with tax is $650-800.
Have arp bolts fitted and then resized , theirs $800-1000
The forged rods with arp hardware work out cheaper and have a better factory accuracy balance.
Head gaskets are an issue on them but the MLS are known for issues on these too. Unsure if it's non reccomended Ra finish on blocks and heads and people just slap them or what the issue is.
Studs and stock gaskets are also a tried combo. A lot harder to seperate a gasket if you get zero head lift.
Rods are so much different in L67 Mate have a look
The mang mobile
I like it