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Absolutely not, the feet are likely meant to slide, just like the motorized at-at set, and making them not slide could damage the internal gearing even more
@@Clump666I could not get the forward/aft legs walk exactly in sync with the center legs. The speed during each step varies slightly. If you restrict any relative movement by adding rubber it will stress the gears. LEGO has studs and fixed distances. That makes making the step size you can create fixed at certain specific distances.
Wow, really enjoyed watching this. So sorry you weren’t able to get everything aligned well to make it work. I will have another look at the instructions but I am afraid I can’t make something this complex any simpler in the instructions
04:36 It’s not just you. This is why I like building other people’s MOC designs from rebrickable- order the parts, then spend as much time sorting through for a piece or carefully organising and knolling all your orders as you do building the set itself! 😂
Would actually be the opposite if the timing was off, the increased friction would be too much for the motor to overcome or it would break a gear. That's why it's smoother when its jacked up and the legs have zero resistance.
JBB's motorized AT-TE models are incredibly advanced. Never before have LEGO AT-TEs had mechanisms that move the front and hind legs like they do on screen, and you can tell just by looking at it how complex the gears and linkages are to make that happen. Honestly I have no idea how they came up with it. Definitely unfortunate that you weren't able to get it to work :(
9:45 if you hear that cracking sound you should turn the thing off and potentioally get ready to buy new gears, I remember working on something with school mindstorms set with a friend and I recall we grinded at least one gear like that
This reminds me of that really cool motorized At-At they released in ‘07, ‘08? What a great example of sacrificing the accuracy of the look - especially proportions - for the benefit of such a COOL function. I think this scaling probably prevents a designer from truly having their cake and eating it too. In order to make a motorized function that works properly but is also foolproof, design-wise, the look of the thing and the proportions will likely have to be sacrificed.
To add, this is why Lego designers go through SO MANY HOOPS to ensure a smooth build process. I think too few of us older fans truly recognize that effort in our assessment of quality. It is far from an afterthought on the part of LEGO designers. We MOC builders don’t go through that same effort, usually, and when we do, probably not to the kind of rigorous standard Lego does. It’s a trade-off, as with everything else in life.
After your tinkering, you had both legs on the same side moving at once. You should have them alternating. Front left and rear right, then front right and rear left.
The motorization is cool and all... but honestly LEGO AT-TE builds in that iconic crouching position always look so dang cool. I'm loving this series of Rebrickable reviews you're doing, though. Keep them up!
That is still pretty cool. I had an issue with *an Official Lego set* The speed champions James Bond Aston Martin DB5, there supposed to be something under the front of the car, but if I put those pieces on, then Front bumper could not fit. At the end, I left those bits out of it and just put the front bumper to the car. And I wasn´t modifying it, it was the official Lego design. Give that set a try.
Very impressive engineering underneath, but looking at it (with some robotics and engineering experience) I cannot diagnose the issue. Maybe I'll try to recreate just the motorized legs and see what can be done.
I dont have engineering experience but it you recreate just the motorized part of the build to see whats wrong, don't you think it would not show accurately the problems David faced ? cause of the lack of weight your model would have ? idk if that makes sense
@@svenoualpha9673 generally a good point, weight is easily overlooked. in this case, however, i think it's fine, as the issue to be diagnosed is related more to the mechanical timing or alignment imo. and even if that works fine, then you still know that the issue occurs somewhere between just the legs and the whole model.
The problem is clearly that the middle legs extend too far. Maybe it's a flaw of the original model, but I would make the middle legs retract inside the body more to allow the other legs to have more grip on the ground. I feel like the purpose of the middle legs is just to have support in the middle of 'steps'. The motion is just not thought out properly. Of course it's a completely different topic on how to actually achieve what I described.
@@RCmies Yeah unfortunately I cannot see a difference in the length of the middle legs between the working walking motion from the original model designer, and the version built by Solid Brix Studios, so I wouldn't say that's the issue with such confidence. It could be that the model works better with shorter middle legs, but assuming they are the same length in the working and not working versions, there should be a fix outside of that.
@@svenoualpha9673 True, I can try to simulate the weight distribution but I agree with Spoogle that it's more about mechanical timing or alignment. The weight might contribute to those issues.
I think it’s kinda wild how some people can find the piece they’re looking for amongst 1000s so quickly. I was looking for one specific piece in my mixed black pieces and it took less than 5 seconds to find it a bag weighing about 5lbs.
Amazing build. Would love to see a motorized AT-AT. Couldnt get passed that you didn't sort the lego pieces. All that time spent hunting and pecking to find a piece. I've got a large lego collection and gave been putting lego together for 40 some years I've sorted all pieces for such a long time I can't just randomly look for peices like a puzzle.
ok so. I've built various walking "machines" out of lego and learned that the most hard part to figure out is not the mechanism but to fix the original deisgn in order to support the mechanism. As some ppl are commenting, YES you DO neet to put rubber under the feet bc the slippery table ends up putting more stress on the thing. (you can also try it first on a carpet like texture terrain). Then, the alignment of the legs gears is indeed crucial but even if you match it perfectly they will end up getting out of alignment again due to the previous problem. To not wear your gears during the failed attempts you could implement the use of friction gears (used in technic idk the name sry). Last but not least, the weight is also an important factor. I'm sure you did try it without all the aesthetic panels and features, right?... check that as well. As far as "illegal" techniques i see none, they r unusual, sure. Hope you get it working. Cheers
Ah yes, the pre 2010 days of dumping all your pieces and sorting through them. I do miss those days, but I had more free time back then. Now I kinda appreciate the numbered bags (especially for larger sets like the UCS falcon.) But man, those were good times
I remember getting the 2006 Star destroyer for Christmas one year. I got about half way through the build, could not find a specific piece (after what felt like an hour of searching to 9 year old me) and just tore it apart and threw it into my Lego bin. I think that’s the only time that happened
Same with my Endor bunker, regret not listening to my mom about bigger sets, I would just open all the bags (that’s how it was at the time I think until late 08/09?) and for that set I opened them all up thinking I would them all, I did, but it was hard to find that one part (didn’t need it but wanted to 100% it
Man I'm sorry after all this work this is where it ended up. Don't let it drag you down, this obviously isn't your fault, you gave it your very best and this is just one project that didn't make it out of a thousand that did
Perhaps Lego should work on its own version. I don't recall if the motorized AT-AT sold well (or how well it did or didn't walk), but there is always a market for Clone Wars items, especially is you add a couple of clone troopers!
I think slight tinkering of Weight and Grip would make it look it a little better and maybe work smoother Tinkering: Weight (even if it’s just inside parts that we don’t see or need to see or have weigh down) Grip/Friction: The bottom should have the blue technic so the feet don’t “dangle everywhere” and some of the connection parts need to have looser movement (mainly the Connecting parts where the legs actually move) Power (Maybe find a slightly powerful battery, and/or Brand)
Its the smooth surface, the legs have no friction. The designer had it run on a lego terrain.. this is the same problem i had with the og mindstorm atat
unfortunate you couldn't get it to work. It really is am impressive feet getting a mechanised walking mechanism in such a small and compact model! It really shows how important it is to make instructions and model building comprehensible and easy to understand. I always spend alot of time and effort into making clear and easy instructions for my models on Rebrickable. It is always hard to objectively tell if your own instructions are easy enough to follow for others. You as the designer often know your build from the top of your head, but for casual builders or new builders it could be quite hard to follow someone else's train of thoughts. What I often do is look at Lego's official manuals and mimic their approaches and step-by-step build sequence (not as dumbed down to a single piece per step, but still understandable). I often test my own instructions as well, to see if everything checks out, and sometimes ask friends of family members that aren't lego enthusiasts if they can follow them clearly. No hate whatsoever to the designer, it is just incredibly difficult to get technic/mechanic models manuals to be easy to follow, and really shows the effort designers put into mocs making the buildable and enjoyable. People complaining instructions are too expensive or shouldn't cost money don't get how much time is needed to make them really good, let alone just make them. Maybe there will be fix in the future, and you will have a functioning walking AT-TE!
That's what came to my mind as well, I've considered adopting his mechanism to mine, but I don't think I have the parts to do that, I started to build a concept test and was not able to finish it. His system just has everything driven from the central legs by linkages, and only three gears that transmit the power to the central legs.
Thank u for another great video. Next time when u want to take a break from Geonosis, build and review at at by Edge of Bricks. Baufman made a review but I would really want to get your opinion about the model.
Sweet man😮 I thought you were going to do the bricks and minifigure clemson tour but hey that might be next.😅 😁👍 but I do have a question about LAN. I want to join LAN but do I joined a group like yours or do i make my own🤨. Just wondering
Iv been gathering parts to build that as well, dont give up on it david, maybe take a break from it and come back to it later, iv personally talked to jbb_777 he is a cool guy to talk to and he is an Engineer
Would it have a better shot if it was walking on something other than a slick wood table? Carpet? Or maybe stick some tread on the feet for some friction?
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Cool! Next Motorized M1 Abrams tank?
Come on show us this on geonosis
Real we need to see thet
You should put rubber pads on the feet so it doesn’t slide as much
Absolutely not, the feet are likely meant to slide, just like the motorized at-at set, and making them not slide could damage the internal gearing even more
@@ArcherJLady if it was built properly it’d be fine
@@Clump666I could not get the forward/aft legs walk exactly in sync with the center legs. The speed during each step varies slightly. If you restrict any relative movement by adding rubber it will stress the gears. LEGO has studs and fixed distances. That makes making the step size you can create fixed at certain specific distances.
@@ArcherJLady Maybe have rubber pads only on the front legs so it could pull the rest forward while not messing up the gears.
Custom technic can be so complex, especially if illegal techniques are used. Technic is already kinda finicky
Wow, really enjoyed watching this. So sorry you weren’t able to get everything aligned well to make it work. I will have another look at the instructions but I am afraid I can’t make something this complex any simpler in the instructions
does the surface it walks on make a difference?
@@correctopinion4708yes. It walks best on flat smooth surfaces. It has a hard time walking on carpet
needs more power for the motor it seems like
It looks like a turtle when it walks 😂this is so epic
Ok now I have to try this! Luckily I do actually have a degree in mechanical engineering so hopefully I can figure it out!
That actually explains a lot, honestly. 😂😂
Meticulously Following the instructions should make this work. Any deviation in any of the legs make it walk like a drunken turtle
04:36 It’s not just you. This is why I like building other people’s MOC designs from rebrickable- order the parts, then spend as much time sorting through for a piece or carefully organising and knolling all your orders as you do building the set itself! 😂
The way it walks now looks like it's sick and is dying.
A drunken turtle
It almost feels like the build is meant to be walking backwards, but is moving forwards. I don't know how to explain this
Ok make one that walks better and then talk
6:47 The table also has a lot less traction so it slides around more. I imagine that it would've worked on a carpet or something the first iteration.
Would actually be the opposite if the timing was off, the increased friction would be too much for the motor to overcome or it would break a gear.
That's why it's smoother when its jacked up and the legs have zero resistance.
JBB's motorized AT-TE models are incredibly advanced. Never before have LEGO AT-TEs had mechanisms that move the front and hind legs like they do on screen, and you can tell just by looking at it how complex the gears and linkages are to make that happen. Honestly I have no idea how they came up with it. Definitely unfortunate that you weren't able to get it to work :(
If you ever wanted a battle damage AT-TE that’s literally on its last legs this design mechanics is for you 😂
You seriously can NEVER have to many clone troopers. I wish I had all of them.
Just wanted to encourage you never stop building Lego you inspire many people
9:45 if you hear that cracking sound you should turn the thing off and potentioally get ready to buy new gears, I remember working on something with school mindstorms set with a friend and I recall we grinded at least one gear like that
This reminds me of that really cool motorized At-At they released in ‘07, ‘08? What a great example of sacrificing the accuracy of the look - especially proportions - for the benefit of such a COOL function.
I think this scaling probably prevents a designer from truly having their cake and eating it too. In order to make a motorized function that works properly but is also foolproof, design-wise, the look of the thing and the proportions will likely have to be sacrificed.
To add, this is why Lego designers go through SO MANY HOOPS to ensure a smooth build process. I think too few of us older fans truly recognize that effort in our assessment of quality. It is far from an afterthought on the part of LEGO designers. We MOC builders don’t go through that same effort, usually, and when we do, probably not to the kind of rigorous standard Lego does.
It’s a trade-off, as with everything else in life.
After your tinkering, you had both legs on the same side moving at once. You should have them alternating. Front left and rear right, then front right and rear left.
The motorization is cool and all... but honestly LEGO AT-TE builds in that iconic crouching position always look so dang cool.
I'm loving this series of Rebrickable reviews you're doing, though. Keep them up!
That is still pretty cool. I had an issue with *an Official Lego set* The speed champions James Bond Aston Martin DB5, there supposed to be something under the front of the car, but if I put those pieces on, then Front bumper could not fit. At the end, I left those bits out of it and just put the front bumper to the car. And I wasn´t modifying it, it was the official Lego design.
Give that set a try.
Very impressive engineering underneath, but looking at it (with some robotics and engineering experience) I cannot diagnose the issue.
Maybe I'll try to recreate just the motorized legs and see what can be done.
I dont have engineering experience but it you recreate just the motorized part of the build to see whats wrong, don't you think it would not show accurately the problems David faced ? cause of the lack of weight your model would have ? idk if that makes sense
@@svenoualpha9673 generally a good point, weight is easily overlooked. in this case, however, i think it's fine, as the issue to be diagnosed is related more to the mechanical timing or alignment imo. and even if that works fine, then you still know that the issue occurs somewhere between just the legs and the whole model.
The problem is clearly that the middle legs extend too far. Maybe it's a flaw of the original model, but I would make the middle legs retract inside the body more to allow the other legs to have more grip on the ground. I feel like the purpose of the middle legs is just to have support in the middle of 'steps'. The motion is just not thought out properly. Of course it's a completely different topic on how to actually achieve what I described.
@@RCmies Yeah unfortunately I cannot see a difference in the length of the middle legs between the working walking motion from the original model designer, and the version built by Solid Brix Studios, so I wouldn't say that's the issue with such confidence. It could be that the model works better with shorter middle legs, but assuming they are the same length in the working and not working versions, there should be a fix outside of that.
@@svenoualpha9673 True, I can try to simulate the weight distribution but I agree with Spoogle that it's more about mechanical timing or alignment. The weight might contribute to those issues.
I think it’s kinda wild how some people can find the piece they’re looking for amongst 1000s so quickly. I was looking for one specific piece in my mixed black pieces and it took less than 5 seconds to find it a bag weighing about 5lbs.
Amazing build. Would love to see a motorized AT-AT. Couldnt get passed that you didn't sort the lego pieces. All that time spent hunting and pecking to find a piece. I've got a large lego collection and gave been putting lego together for 40 some years I've sorted all pieces for such a long time I can't just randomly look for peices like a puzzle.
Your face of defeat at 9:44 David 😂😂😂😂😂
the motion looks so cool. I like that snappy movement at the end
ok so. I've built various walking "machines" out of lego and learned that the most hard part to figure out is not the mechanism but to fix the original deisgn in order to support the mechanism. As some ppl are commenting, YES you DO neet to put rubber under the feet bc the slippery table ends up putting more stress on the thing. (you can also try it first on a carpet like texture terrain). Then, the alignment of the legs gears is indeed crucial but even if you match it perfectly they will end up getting out of alignment again due to the previous problem. To not wear your gears during the failed attempts you could implement the use of friction gears (used in technic idk the name sry). Last but not least, the weight is also an important factor. I'm sure you did try it without all the aesthetic panels and features, right?... check that as well. As far as "illegal" techniques i see none, they r unusual, sure.
Hope you get it working.
Cheers
If lego ever does another AT-TE Set, they should try this. Great custom David
Ah yes, the pre 2010 days of dumping all your pieces and sorting through them. I do miss those days, but I had more free time back then. Now I kinda appreciate the numbered bags (especially for larger sets like the UCS falcon.) But man, those were good times
HOLY CRAP !!! this is sick !
I remember getting the 2006 Star destroyer for Christmas one year. I got about half way through the build, could not find a specific piece (after what felt like an hour of searching to 9 year old me) and just tore it apart and threw it into my Lego bin. I think that’s the only time that happened
Same with my Endor bunker, regret not listening to my mom about bigger sets, I would just open all the bags (that’s how it was at the time I think until late 08/09?) and for that set I opened them all up thinking I would them all, I did, but it was hard to find that one part (didn’t need it but wanted to 100% it
Man I'm sorry after all this work this is where it ended up. Don't let it drag you down, this obviously isn't your fault, you gave it your very best and this is just one project that didn't make it out of a thousand that did
Verge of greatness.... This close....
i have the parts. i'll try it out and ask my engineer friend what to do
Perhaps Lego should work on its own version. I don't recall if the motorized AT-AT sold well (or how well it did or didn't walk), but there is always a market for Clone Wars items, especially is you add a couple of clone troopers!
I think slight tinkering of Weight and Grip would make it look it a little better and maybe work smoother
Tinkering:
Weight (even if it’s just inside parts that we don’t see or need to see or have weigh down)
Grip/Friction: The bottom should have the blue technic so the feet don’t “dangle everywhere” and some of the connection parts need to have looser movement (mainly the Connecting parts where the legs actually move)
Power (Maybe find a slightly powerful battery, and/or Brand)
Once this is fixed it is only fitting that it is paired with Forged in LEGO's Republic Dropship
Stbricks has a more simple version on his channel that seems a lot easier to put together.
Also has a rotating turret!
Its the smooth surface, the legs have no friction. The designer had it run on a lego terrain.. this is the same problem i had with the og mindstorm atat
My first video shows it on a smooth surface. It actually walks best on a smooth surface. Any grip of a single leg will put stress on the gears
@@jbb7774does it work better on carpet or concrete? The legs look they are sliding a bit
9:30 You can see him go through all five stages of grief in real time
Amazing, this reminds me of the motorized AT-AT, they need to do something similar again.
Great now I need a brickfilm with this
That’s cool!
This is cool as hell
unfortunate you couldn't get it to work. It really is am impressive feet getting a mechanised walking mechanism in such a small and compact model!
It really shows how important it is to make instructions and model building comprehensible and easy to understand. I always spend alot of time and effort into making clear and easy instructions for my models on Rebrickable. It is always hard to objectively tell if your own instructions are easy enough to follow for others. You as the designer often know your build from the top of your head, but for casual builders or new builders it could be quite hard to follow someone else's train of thoughts. What I often do is look at Lego's official manuals and mimic their approaches and step-by-step build sequence (not as dumbed down to a single piece per step, but still understandable). I often test my own instructions as well, to see if everything checks out, and sometimes ask friends of family members that aren't lego enthusiasts if they can follow them clearly. No hate whatsoever to the designer, it is just incredibly difficult to get technic/mechanic models manuals to be easy to follow, and really shows the effort designers put into mocs making the buildable and enjoyable. People complaining instructions are too expensive or shouldn't cost money don't get how much time is needed to make them really good, let alone just make them. Maybe there will be fix in the future, and you will have a functioning walking AT-TE!
lmaooo it walks like one of the prequel cgi characters ❤
JK Brickwork did a motorised AT-TE 3 years ago and it works really well. But it's at a smaller scale than this one.
That's what came to my mind as well, I've considered adopting his mechanism to mine, but I don't think I have the parts to do that, I started to build a concept test and was not able to finish it. His system just has everything driven from the central legs by linkages, and only three gears that transmit the power to the central legs.
Cool!
Now imagine they motorized all the star wars stuff!
9:40 he looks like Pinocchio’s father 😂😂
Looks EPIC love how you made it walk done awesome job there 👍
For whatnot, I really want the 2021 501st Battlepack... So if it's not too expensive, I'm ready to bought a max of this legendary battleback! :)
Thank u for another great video. Next time when u want to take a break from Geonosis, build and review at at by Edge of Bricks. Baufman made a review but I would really want to get your opinion about the model.
Whatnot looks cool
You should use metal gear in a future video. It could work better.
Great! I need 65 more of them
AWESOME! 😮
you probally need to put it on a baseplate so it walks better, your table has no grip so its sliding
Wow thats so awesome 👍👍
Whats your opinion on cheesecake?
Overrated
Pie kind of guy..
Too rich. A slice of pumpkin pie for me
Geonosis finale by November?
Amazing! Do you think you could do it with an AT-AT, like the UCS?
Someone online has already been doing it, though I don’t think the instructions are public
Wow that's so cool!
That’s looks awesome!
I audibly laughed at 11:15
sick
This is like that old clone wars McDonald's toy on steroids
Hey man I’m looking at getting my first UCS build and can’t make up my mind. Would you go for the AT-AT walker or the Venator?
I'd suggest using a less smooth surface
Sweet man😮
I thought you were going to do the bricks and minifigure clemson tour but hey that might be next.😅
😁👍 but I do have a question about LAN.
I want to join LAN but do I joined a group like yours or do i make my own🤨.
Just wondering
I dont think its mission failed, I think its wasted
Creative
Look at jk brickworks he made on that’s micro scale and seemed rather good
But can this still be lifted by the republic dropship moc?
I was so hyped for this vid but im a lil let down very cool idea tho
Wow
This needs more power desperately going to the motor! Poor thing is struggling to move itself
Weber Walks
Oh. My. GOD!!!! I want it! I need it. I am going to build this right now but i donn't have the parts. and the time
Geonosis please
Looks like a drunk Zoid. Just buy a Zoid.
Would this work on the 2013 at-te?
I think i would lose my mind if i were in your position lol
Me too
Your whatnot says tom 9/28 at 7pm fyi
Bet, $5 I can fix it.
You…. you didn’t show us if this AT-TE couples with the “ultimate” dropship from your previous video..
Iv been gathering parts to build that as well, dont give up on it david, maybe take a break from it and come back to it later, iv personally talked to jbb_777 he is a cool guy to talk to and he is an Engineer
jb bricks did it easily
I think the problem is the surface it's walking and not the gears
Would it have a better shot if it was walking on something other than a slick wood table? Carpet? Or maybe stick some tread on the feet for some friction?
Wow.. At first I thought this would be cool to do for myself, but that's nothing for me 😬
Here so early www usually 11 months - 5 years late to a Brix Studios vid
Perfect for terrorising your pets
Geonosis
I’m doing This
It would work better if it was on a carpet.
Is the whatnot thing a scam? I dont wanna get scammed
As far as i know you wont get those cheap figs every one is talking about selling, people snipe them
@@biIIybob858 so is it a scam?
Noice
Hi
Link to AliExpress?
Motorized ucs at at? Anyone?