Love this duo! Nick!!! Been watching NZ and listening to his old pods about it! Shannon is the best but I always love hearing from the OG and my favorite Australian player
Caroline beating Teeny would run entirely counter to your theories about "shiny people," Shannon. Teeny is among the shiniest players ever seen in this show. You're still in the mindset that strategic merit translates *directly* to win equity, and I think we've seen that it doesn't. That doesn't mean that strategy discussions are moot, just that they need to consider this "inherent likability factor" when arguing for win equity. This is Kenzie and Charlie all over again.
Likeability is subjective. To me Teeny comes across like a whiny child and is the least likeable person in the game in my opinion. The clear smarts and self confidence of Caroline, Genevieve and Rachel would be much easier to like and respect. I'd even prefer Sue, she's a mess but also a badass.
@neonarachnid Yes, but you're not in the game. We've consistently seen that the people on the island appear to really like and respect Teeny. Even if a player doesn't like them, they should still be able to see how much everyone else does. Part of being socially aware and good at the game is being able to recognize the natural charisma of players like Teeny, Fabio, and Kenzie and appreciate how dangerous it is.
@@abrahamgrigsby9300 Fabio won Survivor against a very strategically competent players like Chase and Sash and Chase was generally pretty amicable. He did this by basically just not playing Survivor.
@@thefoxoflaurels3437 That's exactly my point. Some people just have charisma, and that makes them dangerous to bring to the end no matter how "little" or "badly" they played. A good story/reason to want the money can help, too. In the end, it's a game for a million dollars, and most people are going to vote for the person they most want to *have a million dollars*, not the person who necessarily "played best."
That GIF is from a Brazilian soap opera called Senhora do Destino. The characters name is Nazaré Tedesco and she is played by Brazilian actress Renata Sorrah! Yes, Brazilian survivor fan here 😂
Nick 😍 Huge agree that Gabe just didn't resonate for me, but I do enjoy everyone else left. Lmao love the tangent to discuss memes. Shannon trying to figure out what Nick has and has not picked up about the fan reception this season due to his social media hiatus was also very entertaining! I'm definitely on team Shots in the Dark though.
This actually has been the scenario in at least half of new era seasons, Nick.42, 43, 46 at least followed this same format of the smaller "threats" eliiminating bigger ones and carrying goats to the finals. Arguably 44 as well... 44 had Carolyn and Heidi being kept through for the finals.
Exactly. Take the limited window shot on Kyle. The chances of Kyle winning next week are higher than Gen and Teeny making up. (But did you see her pushing the hammock?) Lol. I still defend the Sol vote. It wasn't her fault everyone semi lost their votes. See wasn't close to Sol. She had to just the issue cuz she said his name. She's not a maniac, but she's not the only one playing... It was overblown in my opinion.
Why are people so convinced the 5 are a solid alliance? Andy said "us 3!" Like he always does. Two walked up and Rachel covered with "us 5!." Then Andy didn't vote with them. May as well be a woman's alliance. 😂😂
I think they took out Kyle to vary immunity wins, not cuz he could beat them and consensus. I don't think Genevieve is next nor should she be. They all voted Sol. (Except Teeny ) Whatever. Tired of arguing. We'll show you all, lol.
Love this duo! Nick!!! Been watching NZ and listening to his old pods about it! Shannon is the best but I always love hearing from the OG and my favorite Australian player
Nick + Shannon = the best combo.
I love Nick's insights, as always!
Caroline beating Teeny would run entirely counter to your theories about "shiny people," Shannon. Teeny is among the shiniest players ever seen in this show. You're still in the mindset that strategic merit translates *directly* to win equity, and I think we've seen that it doesn't. That doesn't mean that strategy discussions are moot, just that they need to consider this "inherent likability factor" when arguing for win equity. This is Kenzie and Charlie all over again.
Likeability is subjective. To me Teeny comes across like a whiny child and is the least likeable person in the game in my opinion. The clear smarts and self confidence of Caroline, Genevieve and Rachel would be much easier to like and respect. I'd even prefer Sue, she's a mess but also a badass.
@neonarachnid Yes, but you're not in the game. We've consistently seen that the people on the island appear to really like and respect Teeny. Even if a player doesn't like them, they should still be able to see how much everyone else does. Part of being socially aware and good at the game is being able to recognize the natural charisma of players like Teeny, Fabio, and Kenzie and appreciate how dangerous it is.
@@abrahamgrigsby9300 Fabio won Survivor against a very strategically competent players like Chase and Sash and Chase was generally pretty amicable. He did this by basically just not playing Survivor.
@@thefoxoflaurels3437 That's exactly my point. Some people just have charisma, and that makes them dangerous to bring to the end no matter how "little" or "badly" they played. A good story/reason to want the money can help, too. In the end, it's a game for a million dollars, and most people are going to vote for the person they most want to *have a million dollars*, not the person who necessarily "played best."
@@abrahamgrigsby9300 Oh no I was agreeing with you, just replied to the wrong person.
That GIF is from a Brazilian soap opera called Senhora do Destino. The characters name is Nazaré Tedesco and she is played by Brazilian actress Renata Sorrah!
Yes, Brazilian survivor fan here 😂
Good to know that there's more of us here
lets gooooo My Country mentioned!
I’ve always loved Nick ✨
Love you nick
Nick 😍 Huge agree that Gabe just didn't resonate for me, but I do enjoy everyone else left. Lmao love the tangent to discuss memes. Shannon trying to figure out what Nick has and has not picked up about the fan reception this season due to his social media hiatus was also very entertaining! I'm definitely on team Shots in the Dark though.
Agree. Don't care who wins in a good way.
Shots in the dark. It's like attorneys general.
This actually has been the scenario in at least half of new era seasons, Nick.42, 43, 46 at least followed this same format of the smaller "threats" eliiminating bigger ones and carrying goats to the finals. Arguably 44 as well... 44 had Carolyn and Heidi being kept through for the finals.
Yes all super fans. Hard season for each player. Monika was laying well when she went out. Rome, Aisha. Gabe. Great players. Sue is good. Imo. Andy❤
Exactly. Take the limited window shot on Kyle. The chances of Kyle winning next week are higher than Gen and Teeny making up. (But did you see her pushing the hammock?) Lol. I still defend the Sol vote. It wasn't her fault everyone semi lost their votes. See wasn't close to Sol. She had to just the issue cuz she said his name. She's not a maniac, but she's not the only one playing... It was overblown in my opinion.
i think Genevieve ''plays dead'' a little bit,to try and survive.
Kyle was the best move.
How did Kyle not when the challenges… he literally won them
Why are people so convinced the 5 are a solid alliance? Andy said "us 3!" Like he always does. Two walked up and Rachel covered with "us 5!." Then Andy didn't vote with them.
May as well be a woman's alliance. 😂😂
Wassupp daddy nick
I think they took out Kyle to vary immunity wins, not cuz he could beat them and consensus.
I don't think Genevieve is next nor should she be. They all voted Sol. (Except Teeny ) Whatever. Tired of arguing. We'll show you all, lol.
Sam was ok until he tried to get Sue out. He Genevieve git labeled as counter to the flow in the same episode.