Ryan, today you were at Menards in Dubuque. You bought a new piece of carpet. The man that helped you out was my son. He thought it might have been you but he wasn't sure, he doesn't watch your videos, but he knew I did. Small world!
Thank you for sharing these insights into your life. My grandfather farmed a small plot of fruit and vegetables here in New England. It was always the best times going out to the farm. I am impressed by the the efficiency of your operation. You your brother and dad are truly blessed. Keep up the good work and God bless you and your entire family.
Today I had a load that had to go from lacrosse, wi down to dubuque, IA and coming up on a small town of Rockville I noticed a very familiar looking red truck and there was this large sign right off the road like a crazy person. Wish I could have snapped a picture. I love the channel watch all the time never thought I would end up in your neck of the woods and thought was cool and had to share.
Beautiful footage of you two out there working together love seeing that 4640 in action they were the beast in their day looks like they still are, be safe
My kubota disc bine has the tail boards like the Kuhn. I find it annoying that for it to lay the hay out as wide as possible they have to be removed and then they are not there when you need them. I like how the New Holland and JD’s can be left on all the time!
We mowed with a 4440 and 1431 new Holland. C4 all day long .downshifts to C3 on headland, throttle back to 1500 when turning around. Back to full throttle and bang it back to C4.
Be interested to see/hear yalls opinions on the crimper rolls versus the flail conditioner in the Deere. Which one dries faster what produces a nicer hay, etc. Looks like it's doing a real nice job and it's nice that it has that flip-over spreader to spread the windrows out more when you want to lay it flat. How much wider will it spread it with the side sheets removed, versus backed off all the way? Later! OL J R :)
Wow you cut your hay short! I’ve been told literally since I started mowing hay (around 14-15 years old) for good regrowth and faster dry down the stubble should be around 2 n a half to 3 inches high. Everyone does it different that’s what make these videos great! 👍🏻 Nice mower buddy. I’m 51 and like you guys been born n raised on a dairy farm and for last 30 years been hay sales and fairly large beef operation of around 100-150 cows most of the time and hay approximately 550 acres and a slaughter house that runs 80-100 cows a day thru 5-6 days a week. I run a do all the haying operations and take care of beef herds on the 3 farms (don’t have the stomach for the slaughter house operation lol)
Huh, so the clover leaves will turn black during drying if mishandled? Is that right? I wonder then how much turns black because of the flail conditioner versus the roller conditioner on the kuhn. Could be an interesting thing to look at as well between them. Also, is there plans for an update on the fields you seeded with the kuhn seeder back in spring? I know you had an update 2 weeks after planting where we could see the rows of initial emergence, but curious how well the grass has taken with seeder after several months. I recall at least one field/area was reseed from it failing to take hold with the deere seeder you guys have on the farm.
Shouldn't be much difference in the conditioners, IF the hay is dried down to proper moisture for baling... Now, one conditioner MAY WELL dry down FASTER than the other, which would be interesting to see... OL J R :)
Travis has mentioned the idea of having two disc mowers in order to help you get your hay crop cut faster. Do you think this Kuhn model would be a good candidate to be #2? It seems like your opinion is that it's #1. Thanks for the footage!
I like the video it's a nice comparison between the 2 mowers I like both of them I am partial to the John deer but the Kuhn is a very nice mower I would like to see a video of how it works in heavier hay fescue with some clover mixed in and maybe some orchard grass nice video
@@jameshavill4504 Kuhn makes JD's THREE POINT MOUNTED non-conditioning hay mowers, NOT their pull-type mo-co's... John Deere makes their own mo-co's which are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from Kuhn's cutterbar. JD does however buy the Kuhn mowers and paints them green in the three point hitch mounted disk mowers, they are the EXACT SAME MACHINE as the series 2 Kuhn 3 point hitch models. Kuhn uses a "gearbed type" monolithic cutter bar in their mowers... stamped steel halves welded together into which an interlocking series of gears are installed, each one spinning the next one down the length of the bar, which spins the disks installed on top of certain gears between the idler gears in the bar. Deere uses a MODULAR gear-type cutterbar on their mo-co's, which uses individual cast-steel or cast-iron "modules" with the gears inside to drive the disk, and these modular units bolt together so the gears mesh and drive each other... The disks are also larger so they turn slower to produce the same blade tip speed compared to smaller disks that have to turn faster to produce the same blade tip speed. Deere's pull-type mo-co's and 3 point hitch models have NOTHING in common, since they're from two different manufacturers! Later! OL J R :)
Do your colored sideburns have anything to do with your boating interests? Another question, do you really want to ted clover with the leaves being so fragile and all?
James havill no that’s a mower conditioner they do have the disc but there is the conditioner (rollers) behind the disc. Where I’m at in the south most farmers run the disc mowers and not the conditioners
They're so far north need the conditioner if you don't want hay on the ground for a week or two trying to get it dry, and almost certain to get rained on in that length of time, particularly with legumes. In the South we can get by with the 3 point hitch non-conditioning disk mowers because most of what we bale is grass, and it's SO much hotter and sunnier that we can make hay in 3-4 days or so down here versus up there, MUCH easier to get hay dry in 100 degree temps... Later! OL J R : )
No... cheaper to produce and can produce it on ground that's not well suited to row crops, but it's also cheaper and the price fluctuates A LOT with the local conditions and supply/demand. And, it's not "free" to produce-- seed, chemicals, and fertilizer all cost money, and fuel to cut, ted, rake, and bale as well, plus "overhead" like machinery and storage for the hay... it all adds up. Later! OL J R : )
They're not feeding dairy cows, which need the "extra performance" silage provides. They no longer have a chopper to chop their own silage, nor forage boxes to chop into and haul it, plus this farm is some distance away from their home farms where their old harvestores and silos are, and I'm not sure those silos are even "functional" anymore... I know they were storing corn for the cattle in one of the Harvestores, but that's it, and not "a lot" at that. They're basically set up for dry hay, and that's all beef cattle really need, maybe supplement a little with cracked corn for the feeders. Ryan got a guy to come wrap some balage for him last year, experimenting with that, but he hasn't said much about it either way, whether it was worth the trouble or not or how the cows did on it... They sell a lot of their hay off-farm so that is MUCH easier to do and more 'sellable' than wrapped bales (individually, which they don't do, and how do you sell tubeline wrapped bales LOL:)???) or silage (how do you sell silage out of the silo??). Dry hay works much better for selling-- take a load down to the auction and drop it off for sale, or load up and haul to a buyer or load his trailer in the yard and send him on his way... Later! OL J R :)
@@lukestrawwalker where I live. We make silage bales for cattle Individually wrapped balles. And it's mostly silage that we feed to cattle. Because that's helps gain weight lot faster. And hay is secundery feed. Ofcorse it's a bit more expensive. But you can see difference between cattle that has feed only hay. And cattle that has given silage. Another benefit of silage bales that are individually wrapped is, you can sell them. And bigger farmers usually do buy it. I suppose difrent country's has different way of farming and feeding the animals. For example. We grow corn only for silage. Harvesting it with foriger and putting in to the pit. Latter be used as a feed for dairy cows or in biogas plant to produce bio methain.
@@janisseinass6841 I take it you're from Europe... things work a little different here. To be sure, silage is "more nutritious" than dry hay, and wrapped hay is basically silage since it's fermented. The fermentation process greatly increases the digestibility and palatability of the forage, which is why it's more nutritious for the animals and they gain faster, produce better, etc. Which is precisely why silage is used very extensively in dairy cattle that need MAXIMUM nutrition to produce the most milk possible. BUT, beef cattle, particularly cows, have lower nutritional needs, so there's little advantage to feeding more expensive and hard to handle silage, or paying to wrap bales and stuff (particularly individually, which is higher cost than tube-line wrapped bales) so it comes down to "why bother" particularly when it costs MORE and is more difficult to handle. Pit silage is easier to deal with and cheaper than putting up silo silage, though losses are higher in pits (usually) than silos. In their area, most of the hay they sell is going to a hay auction, which would be difficult/impossible to do with silage, and even wrapped bales do not sell well here... no demand as dairies produce their own silage and thus little market for it, and beef cattle feeders only want dry hay, not silage. It's just the difference in how things are done here versus there... You have to produce what sells in your area, and fits with the local production scheme of things, not necessarily "the best" (ie silage) for which there is no local market or that's simply harder to put up and handle, impossible to sell locally, and isn't really necessary to feed beef cattle sufficiently for what you're doing. Later! OL J R :)
@@lukestrawwalker yeah. Markets are a bit different there. And you have to grow and make that's more profitable in your country. For example. Here we grow a lot of wheat and cannola. Because it has a good prices here.
It does, but it's a different type... flails, which is a spinning rotor turning "backwards" to the direction of travel, with spinning pivoting bars or tines sticking out of from it. As the mower cuts the forage off, it goes over the cutterbar and into the flails, which whip it upwards against a conditioning hood, a flat or curved sheet of metal, sometimes with diamond plate or other "texture" to it, which slows the forage down so it gets smacked and rubbed by the high speed spinning flails a few times before it gets discharged out the back of the mo-co. The flails are "meant" for grass hay, and work by "abrading the waxy outer layer" off the grass stems to make them dry faster. The Kuhn has conditioning rolls, which are intermeshing lugged rubber rolls that pinch, crush, and kink the hay stems between them, cracking them where they are forced to bend around the corners of the lugs and crushing them between the two rubber rollers, before expelling the material out the back. Rollers are made more for alfalfa and finer, leafier crops that can have leaves stripped off by the more aggressive flail conditioners. Both have their place, and some people prefer one over the other for their crops and conditions... Flails are cheaper to buy and maintain, though they do usually have a little more maintenance than rolls due to all the individual flails and pivot points on the single main drive roll the flails mount on, BUT they last a LONG time. Roller conditioners are more expensive to buy, and there's two rollers in there mashing together; no free-swinging flails to maintain, BUT when they get old and the rubber starts going, they are VERY VERY EXPENSIVE to replace or have resurfaced... Later! OL J R :)
@@josephgladish22 yea didnt see that video but a farm tractor with triple is alot of money ect...just figured a front and pull behind would be cheaper investment then a tractor with triples
Yes! Not a new thing, but I'm still concerned about wrong side coloring if he is using it as lanternas or to remember Right (green) from Left (red)! Lol
I thought clover is poison to the cows because it causes cow's stomachs to bloat. The only knowledge I have about it is from Yellowstone TV show :D Please teach me!
Clover (and many other legumes and even grasses) CAN cause cows to bloat, but usually when they overeat the stuff early in the season when it's VERY lush and green. Basically what happens is, the cows will eat too much, it ferments too quickly in the rumen (main stomach of the four-chambered stomach cows and other ruminant animals have) and produces too much gas, and they can't burp the gas up fast enough, causing the stomach to inflate like a balloon, which can eventually cause them to suffocate because they can't draw in enough breath to keep their blood oxygenated. The solution is 1) not turn in hungry cows into lush green pastures with bloat-prone forage growing in it (some plants are worse about bloat than others-- usually legumes like clover and some types of alfalfa are the worst, but even ryegrass can cause bloat in the right conditions... usually the higher "tannin content" of different varieties or types of clover or legumes make some less prone to cause bloat, or "low risk" of bloat compared to other "low tannin" varieties or types of forage which are worse for causing bloat). 2) cutting the forage for dry hay, which once it's dry and baled it's safe. 3) provide bloat blocks to the cattle, which is basically a sweet feed with an anti-bloat additive mixed in, which the cattle consume. Bloat is caused basically when the forage ferments in the rumen and forms a "foam" on top that they cannot burp up, the foam inflates like soap bubbles... the anti-bloat compound is basically an anti-foam agent. Once the hay is cut and dried down to make dry hay, the compounds that can cause the foaming issue in the stomach is inactivated in the forage, so it's no longer a problem. The biggest problem with clover is it takes a LONG time to dry and if it's baled too wet or handled improperly, it can mold or mildew quite easily and "turn black" in the bale. Those molds and mildews can make "dusty hay" and produce mycotoxins, basically "by-products" of the mold or mildew, which are chemical compounds which CAN be poisonous or injurious to different types of livestock, depending on what it is. Some molds can cause abortion of unborn calves or things of that sort. Horses are usually much more sensitive to such things than cattle are, but then again, horses are not ruminant animals like cattle, sheep, and goats. Later! OL J R :)
BIG BIG $$$$... unless you run an old one that's affordable, but would break down more. SP=one more engine and transmission and final drives and hydrostats and air conditioning and all that other stuff to keep up and maintain to do the SAME JOB that the tractor sitting in the barn is perfectly capable of doing with a pull-type mo-co... That's why... OL J R :)
If memory serves the JD uses a flail so a comparison is impossible. The story is flails strip the wax coating off of grass while conditioner crimps the stems. IE flails would work better on grasses and the rollers would work best on leafy plants like legumes. Have never run a flail mower so no personal experience.
Yeah I'd like to see that too. They bale mostly alfalfa and alfalfa grass mix and have been cutting it all this time with the JD flail machine and doing just fine. I've heard experienced hay guys say that the "flails are for grass" stuff is *mostly* sales hype; that they've had just as good a luck with the cheaper flail machines in alfalfa and legumes as the more expensive roller machines. Some guys swear by the rollers even in grass type hay, haygrazer (sorghum-sudangrass), etc. Some guys swear by the flails. Guess a lot comes down to local conditions and what you're cutting, and personal preference... Flail machines are cheaper to buy up front and less to go wrong, but there IS some maintenance with all the flails and their pivot points on the single flail rotor in the machine, but cheaper to fix and more forgiving of something that's not supposed to be there going through the machine. Rolls are more expensive to buy up front, but maintenance is usually a lot lower despite having two rollers with twice as many bearings and a pivot at each end to allow them to spread enough for stuff to go between them... BUT when the rolls get old and the rubber starts going to pot, or if something that's "not supposed to be there" gets pulled into the rolls and tears up the rubber, then repairs are EXTREMELY expensive compared to flails. Rolls usually take more power to operate than flails as well. BUT the rollers also crimp/crush the plants between them, splitting the stems and cracking them, versus flails that just sorta rub the outer layers off and bruise the plants and maybe kink some of the stems as it bashes the stuff on the way through before it gets tossed out the back... I mean, BOTH work, but it'd be interesting to hear their opinions and observations of which is actually doing the best job FOR THEM in THEIR CONDITIONS... (which might or might not apply to other folks elsewhere!) Later! OL J R :)
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Are we going to ignore the fact that Ryan's sideburns look like he had a FABULOUS weekend?
i was thinking the same thing
Instablaster.
Thanks for letting us sit in the air conditioned cab while you tightened that pipe in the hood
That was nice, LoL.
Ryan, today you were at Menards in Dubuque. You bought a new piece of carpet. The man that helped you out was my son. He thought it might have been you but he wasn't sure, he doesn't watch your videos, but he knew I did. Small world!
Never thought I'd hear one farmer ask another "do you have a spare gopro?"
Yep me to
Thank you for sharing these insights into your life. My grandfather farmed a small plot of fruit and vegetables here in New England. It was always the best times going out to the farm. I am impressed by the the efficiency of your operation. You your brother and dad are truly blessed. Keep up the good work and God bless you and your entire family.
The valley has to be the most scenic place out of all your farms. Must be nice to work down there, when its not underwater!
It's WONDERFUL to see not all green equipment. 😎🚜 Great video.
Thanks for taking me along with you cutting hay. The Kuhn looks like it’s doing a great job cutting 👍
Today I had a load that had to go from lacrosse, wi down to dubuque, IA and coming up on a small town of Rockville I noticed a very familiar looking red truck and there was this large sign right off the road like a crazy person. Wish I could have snapped a picture. I love the channel watch all the time never thought I would end up in your neck of the woods and thought was cool and had to share.
Thanks for putting together another great video!
Back in the valley😁👍 the mower does a great job😉👍
The Kuhn mower conditioners do a very nice job.
My arm got tried watching all the turns you had to do.Great drone work again! Thanks
Beautiful footage of you two out there working together love seeing that 4640 in action they were the beast in their day looks like they still are, be safe
My kubota disc bine has the tail boards like the Kuhn. I find it annoying that for it to lay the hay out as wide as possible they have to be removed and then they are not there when you need them. I like how the New Holland and JD’s can be left on all the time!
We mowed with a 4440 and 1431 new Holland.
C4 all day long .downshifts to C3 on headland, throttle back to 1500 when turning around. Back to full throttle and bang it back to C4.
awsome thumbs up and shared i like how the rows when u cut are nice and stright perfect for bailing great job
Be interested to see/hear yalls opinions on the crimper rolls versus the flail conditioner in the Deere. Which one dries faster what produces a nicer hay, etc. Looks like it's doing a real nice job and it's nice that it has that flip-over spreader to spread the windrows out more when you want to lay it flat. How much wider will it spread it with the side sheets removed, versus backed off all the way? Later! OL J R :)
Wow you cut your hay short! I’ve been told literally since I started mowing hay (around 14-15 years old) for good regrowth and faster dry down the stubble should be around 2 n a half to 3 inches high. Everyone does it different that’s what make these videos great! 👍🏻 Nice mower buddy. I’m 51 and like you guys been born n raised on a dairy farm and for last 30 years been hay sales and fairly large beef operation of around 100-150 cows most of the time and hay approximately 550 acres and a slaughter house that runs 80-100 cows a day thru 5-6 days a week. I run a do all the haying operations and take care of beef herds on the 3 farms (don’t have the stomach for the slaughter house operation lol)
Huh, so the clover leaves will turn black during drying if mishandled? Is that right? I wonder then how much turns black because of the flail conditioner versus the roller conditioner on the kuhn. Could be an interesting thing to look at as well between them.
Also, is there plans for an update on the fields you seeded with the kuhn seeder back in spring? I know you had an update 2 weeks after planting where we could see the rows of initial emergence, but curious how well the grass has taken with seeder after several months. I recall at least one field/area was reseed from it failing to take hold with the deere seeder you guys have on the farm.
Shouldn't be much difference in the conditioners, IF the hay is dried down to proper moisture for baling... Now, one conditioner MAY WELL dry down FASTER than the other, which would be interesting to see... OL J R :)
Travis has mentioned the idea of having two disc mowers in order to help you get your hay crop cut faster. Do you think this Kuhn model would be a good candidate to be #2? It seems like your opinion is that it's #1. Thanks for the footage!
Kuhn mowers are excellent. There's a lot of hay cut in our area and every one of them is using a Kuhn mower. Just fantastic machines!
Great awesome video Ryan
Cutting at "1.8 inches "🤔 I think that's when metric and imperial have a baby 😜
keep in mind the first mower had to mow what the tractor ran over on the second row
My experience at least with NH discbine it really made little to no difference.
One major problem with Clover is how much the Whitetail Deer loves to eat it.
I see a new look for you with the red and blue on your sideburns.
Those sideburns. First I thought that was blood. So that’s case IH on the right and John Deere on the left.
Red on one side, white down the middle, and blue on the other, for the 4th of July! OL J R : )
Great Vlog, interesting to compare the 2 mowers at the end
Another great video Ryan👍
Pretty country
The 4640 looks good with the 4060!
what kind of wheels and row spacing ..and tires that you run on the 4640.....looks good
Hey ryan what is your favorite tractor that you have on the farm
Neat windrowers. From the camera looks like that alfalfa is about in need of rotation.
One time I mowed 1 one gear below road gear at about 2000 rpm and it was fast.
Check out the old silo
Loving the hair Ryan haha 😆
How many acres do you have? That is some beautiful land!
Hello from France . Very good vidéos.
What happened that your right side burn looks red? Is that also from waterskiing? Looks like the machines are cutting nice.
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Loved the vid Ryan thanks..
Nice Khun commercial .
Great new look side burn one red one green from hair to beard
Hey Ryan love the videos awesome
Random question, why did you dye your hair red and blue?
I like the video it's a nice comparison between the 2 mowers I like both of them I am partial to the John deer but the Kuhn is a very nice mower I would like to see a video of how it works in heavier hay fescue with some clover mixed in and maybe some orchard grass nice video
Kuhn make the mowers for jd so really just depends what color you want to match your tractor
@@jameshavill4504 Kuhn makes JD's THREE POINT MOUNTED non-conditioning hay mowers, NOT their pull-type mo-co's... John Deere makes their own mo-co's which are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from Kuhn's cutterbar. JD does however buy the Kuhn mowers and paints them green in the three point hitch mounted disk mowers, they are the EXACT SAME MACHINE as the series 2 Kuhn 3 point hitch models. Kuhn uses a "gearbed type" monolithic cutter bar in their mowers... stamped steel halves welded together into which an interlocking series of gears are installed, each one spinning the next one down the length of the bar, which spins the disks installed on top of certain gears between the idler gears in the bar. Deere uses a MODULAR gear-type cutterbar on their mo-co's, which uses individual cast-steel or cast-iron "modules" with the gears inside to drive the disk, and these modular units bolt together so the gears mesh and drive each other... The disks are also larger so they turn slower to produce the same blade tip speed compared to smaller disks that have to turn faster to produce the same blade tip speed.
Deere's pull-type mo-co's and 3 point hitch models have NOTHING in common, since they're from two different manufacturers! Later! OL J R :)
Leaving your wingman behind.....lol
Do your colored sideburns have anything to do with your boating interests? Another question, do you really want to ted clover with the leaves being so fragile and all?
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is that your field there thats flooded ?
1:47 😂 what the hell is red in ur hair on ur sife burns 😂
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Is that the plate River at 4:48
20kph or 15mph isn't a problem! Kuhn's just eat the grass! If it breaks, it's probably your own fault
3:53 It's always something.
Is this the same stuff that Travis had to mulch up in his video yesterday?
Same valley, but different part of valley.
What’s his channel?
@@robertnold7939 "The Rest of The Story"
Ryan is there blood in your hair on the right side of your head?
Did you dye your hair?
Have you seen a difference between the two mowers?
Great video Ryan what's with the blue and red each side of your head
Blame the intern, she colored it. 🤣
BW YinYang read the description, it’s a video from 4th of July
Whats up with the colored hair?
Have you ever ran disc mowers on your farm and if you did what brand
Them 2 mowers are disc mowers
James havill no that’s a mower conditioner they do have the disc but there is the conditioner (rollers) behind the disc. Where I’m at in the south most farmers run the disc mowers and not the conditioners
@@dawsoneubank1432 they are still a disc mower the cuter bar is the same weather or not they have a conditioner on.
They're so far north need the conditioner if you don't want hay on the ground for a week or two trying to get it dry, and almost certain to get rained on in that length of time, particularly with legumes. In the South we can get by with the 3 point hitch non-conditioning disk mowers because most of what we bale is grass, and it's SO much hotter and sunnier that we can make hay in 3-4 days or so down here versus up there, MUCH easier to get hay dry in 100 degree temps... Later! OL J R : )
What happened to your side burn
I see Hannah found the hair die spray
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I think it was done for the 4th of July festivities...look closely, its blue on left and red on the right, and his white face=== Red, White and Blue.
How does he get the drone shots?!!?
Does travis have his own videos? He needed a go pro but ive never seen him except here
Look up " The rest of the Story "
@@evancool5268 i was watching ryan today and he mentioned that. Got em now. Thanks
I see you have two dogs look like Rocket are they brothers and sister to Rocket?
Where is Hannah, have not seen her in any recent videos
OK I got to ask what’s up with the red and blue sideburns
Fourth of July hair dye
What’s the age difference between the two mowers ?
I see the hair colour is giving ya a run for ya money still lol. Great video as always Ryan.
Thanks for the vid!
How many acres is that
What's with the colored side burns ?
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Check out farmer Matt 206 he uses a JCB Fastrac tractor to mow grass that thing can really move
Why are your side burns red and blue
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Hey Ryan!!
Is hay more profitable then corn?
No... cheaper to produce and can produce it on ground that's not well suited to row crops, but it's also cheaper and the price fluctuates A LOT with the local conditions and supply/demand. And, it's not "free" to produce-- seed, chemicals, and fertilizer all cost money, and fuel to cut, ted, rake, and bale as well, plus "overhead" like machinery and storage for the hay... it all adds up. Later! OL J R : )
Blue and red sideburns
You musta lost a bet with Hannah
Best video
What’s with the hair - did you go to a frat party??
Fourth of July hair dye
Whay you don't make any silage?
Clouver is great for silage
They're not feeding dairy cows, which need the "extra performance" silage provides. They no longer have a chopper to chop their own silage, nor forage boxes to chop into and haul it, plus this farm is some distance away from their home farms where their old harvestores and silos are, and I'm not sure those silos are even "functional" anymore... I know they were storing corn for the cattle in one of the Harvestores, but that's it, and not "a lot" at that. They're basically set up for dry hay, and that's all beef cattle really need, maybe supplement a little with cracked corn for the feeders. Ryan got a guy to come wrap some balage for him last year, experimenting with that, but he hasn't said much about it either way, whether it was worth the trouble or not or how the cows did on it... They sell a lot of their hay off-farm so that is MUCH easier to do and more 'sellable' than wrapped bales (individually, which they don't do, and how do you sell tubeline wrapped bales LOL:)???) or silage (how do you sell silage out of the silo??). Dry hay works much better for selling-- take a load down to the auction and drop it off for sale, or load up and haul to a buyer or load his trailer in the yard and send him on his way... Later! OL J R :)
@@lukestrawwalker where I live. We make silage bales for cattle Individually wrapped balles. And it's mostly silage that we feed to cattle. Because that's helps gain weight lot faster. And hay is secundery feed. Ofcorse it's a bit more expensive. But you can see difference between cattle that has feed only hay. And cattle that has given silage.
Another benefit of silage bales that are individually wrapped is, you can sell them. And bigger farmers usually do buy it.
I suppose difrent country's has different way of farming and feeding the animals. For example. We grow corn only for silage. Harvesting it with foriger and putting in to the pit. Latter be used as a feed for dairy cows or in biogas plant to produce bio methain.
@@janisseinass6841 I take it you're from Europe... things work a little different here. To be sure, silage is "more nutritious" than dry hay, and wrapped hay is basically silage since it's fermented. The fermentation process greatly increases the digestibility and palatability of the forage, which is why it's more nutritious for the animals and they gain faster, produce better, etc. Which is precisely why silage is used very extensively in dairy cattle that need MAXIMUM nutrition to produce the most milk possible. BUT, beef cattle, particularly cows, have lower nutritional needs, so there's little advantage to feeding more expensive and hard to handle silage, or paying to wrap bales and stuff (particularly individually, which is higher cost than tube-line wrapped bales) so it comes down to "why bother" particularly when it costs MORE and is more difficult to handle. Pit silage is easier to deal with and cheaper than putting up silo silage, though losses are higher in pits (usually) than silos. In their area, most of the hay they sell is going to a hay auction, which would be difficult/impossible to do with silage, and even wrapped bales do not sell well here... no demand as dairies produce their own silage and thus little market for it, and beef cattle feeders only want dry hay, not silage. It's just the difference in how things are done here versus there... You have to produce what sells in your area, and fits with the local production scheme of things, not necessarily "the best" (ie silage) for which there is no local market or that's simply harder to put up and handle, impossible to sell locally, and isn't really necessary to feed beef cattle sufficiently for what you're doing. Later! OL J R :)
@@lukestrawwalker yeah. Markets are a bit different there. And you have to grow and make that's more profitable in your country.
For example. Here we grow a lot of wheat and cannola. Because it has a good prices here.
I assumed the John Deere mower had a conditioner in it too.
It does, but it's a different type... flails, which is a spinning rotor turning "backwards" to the direction of travel, with spinning pivoting bars or tines sticking out of from it. As the mower cuts the forage off, it goes over the cutterbar and into the flails, which whip it upwards against a conditioning hood, a flat or curved sheet of metal, sometimes with diamond plate or other "texture" to it, which slows the forage down so it gets smacked and rubbed by the high speed spinning flails a few times before it gets discharged out the back of the mo-co. The flails are "meant" for grass hay, and work by "abrading the waxy outer layer" off the grass stems to make them dry faster.
The Kuhn has conditioning rolls, which are intermeshing lugged rubber rolls that pinch, crush, and kink the hay stems between them, cracking them where they are forced to bend around the corners of the lugs and crushing them between the two rubber rollers, before expelling the material out the back. Rollers are made more for alfalfa and finer, leafier crops that can have leaves stripped off by the more aggressive flail conditioners. Both have their place, and some people prefer one over the other for their crops and conditions... Flails are cheaper to buy and maintain, though they do usually have a little more maintenance than rolls due to all the individual flails and pivot points on the single main drive roll the flails mount on, BUT they last a LONG time. Roller conditioners are more expensive to buy, and there's two rollers in there mashing together; no free-swinging flails to maintain, BUT when they get old and the rubber starts going, they are VERY VERY EXPENSIVE to replace or have resurfaced...
Later! OL J R :)
Is it me or is his side burn red and blue
It's just you
Yall ever think of testing a JD with front pto mower and rear pull mower as a new mowing tractor
Ryan Katz they have before go look at old videos of the new holland it had one on front and then 2 on the back
@@josephgladish22 yea didnt see that video but a farm tractor with triple is alot of money ect...just figured a front and pull behind would be cheaper investment then a tractor with triples
Ryan Katz yea they was demoing it
@@josephgladish22 yea they are nice to have but cost alot to have
Ryan Katz yea if they was going to actually buy one I don’t think they can put that much money out of the farm that’s why the demo bunch of stuff
wow c-3 or c-4?! i would've gotten chewed out if i got caught in c-anything!!! lol B-2
Why is the side of your head red
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Red head now
Why is your hair red by your right ear?? Anybody else notice that??
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What’s up with the pink hair?
4th of july
Paintball9927 dang. Headshot
What happen to your hair
Anyone else notice that one side of his hair is pink and the other side is blue
I think this was filmed on July 5th time window as in one of his other vids showed some hair coloring for the holiday
anyone else notice the description?
Yes! Not a new thing, but I'm still concerned about wrong side coloring if he is using it as lanternas or to remember Right (green) from Left (red)! Lol
He dyed it red, white and blue, he is French
@@FoodwaysDistribution Ummm... no... AMERICAN fourth of July (Independence Day). OL J R :)
all grass you lay down need bigger baler
You've got to let the "Intern" show up every now and then! :)
I thought clover is poison to the cows because it causes cow's stomachs to bloat. The only knowledge I have about it is from Yellowstone TV show :D Please teach me!
Clover (and many other legumes and even grasses) CAN cause cows to bloat, but usually when they overeat the stuff early in the season when it's VERY lush and green. Basically what happens is, the cows will eat too much, it ferments too quickly in the rumen (main stomach of the four-chambered stomach cows and other ruminant animals have) and produces too much gas, and they can't burp the gas up fast enough, causing the stomach to inflate like a balloon, which can eventually cause them to suffocate because they can't draw in enough breath to keep their blood oxygenated. The solution is 1) not turn in hungry cows into lush green pastures with bloat-prone forage growing in it (some plants are worse about bloat than others-- usually legumes like clover and some types of alfalfa are the worst, but even ryegrass can cause bloat in the right conditions... usually the higher "tannin content" of different varieties or types of clover or legumes make some less prone to cause bloat, or "low risk" of bloat compared to other "low tannin" varieties or types of forage which are worse for causing bloat). 2) cutting the forage for dry hay, which once it's dry and baled it's safe. 3) provide bloat blocks to the cattle, which is basically a sweet feed with an anti-bloat additive mixed in, which the cattle consume. Bloat is caused basically when the forage ferments in the rumen and forms a "foam" on top that they cannot burp up, the foam inflates like soap bubbles... the anti-bloat compound is basically an anti-foam agent. Once the hay is cut and dried down to make dry hay, the compounds that can cause the foaming issue in the stomach is inactivated in the forage, so it's no longer a problem.
The biggest problem with clover is it takes a LONG time to dry and if it's baled too wet or handled improperly, it can mold or mildew quite easily and "turn black" in the bale. Those molds and mildews can make "dusty hay" and produce mycotoxins, basically "by-products" of the mold or mildew, which are chemical compounds which CAN be poisonous or injurious to different types of livestock, depending on what it is. Some molds can cause abortion of unborn calves or things of that sort. Horses are usually much more sensitive to such things than cattle are, but then again, horses are not ruminant animals like cattle, sheep, and goats. Later! OL J R :)
Great video. Looks like you have red on the right side of your face near your sideburn and blue on the left side in the same area. Someone pranks you?
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Why don’t y’all have self propelled mowers? You should try a demo
Will Johnson Gee I am sure they would love you to buy them one! XD
Why would they need one? They aren’t doing any custom hay
BIG BIG $$$$... unless you run an old one that's affordable, but would break down more. SP=one more engine and transmission and final drives and hydrostats and air conditioning and all that other stuff to keep up and maintain to do the SAME JOB that the tractor sitting in the barn is perfectly capable of doing with a pull-type mo-co... That's why... OL J R :)
Compare the crimper between Kuhn and JD
If memory serves the JD uses a flail so a comparison is impossible. The story is flails strip the wax coating off of grass while conditioner crimps the stems. IE flails would work better on grasses and the rollers would work best on leafy plants like legumes. Have never run a flail mower so no personal experience.
@@ArnieD17 Made sense, but from what I understand crimping drys faster.
Yeah I'd like to see that too. They bale mostly alfalfa and alfalfa grass mix and have been cutting it all this time with the JD flail machine and doing just fine. I've heard experienced hay guys say that the "flails are for grass" stuff is *mostly* sales hype; that they've had just as good a luck with the cheaper flail machines in alfalfa and legumes as the more expensive roller machines. Some guys swear by the rollers even in grass type hay, haygrazer (sorghum-sudangrass), etc. Some guys swear by the flails. Guess a lot comes down to local conditions and what you're cutting, and personal preference... Flail machines are cheaper to buy up front and less to go wrong, but there IS some maintenance with all the flails and their pivot points on the single flail rotor in the machine, but cheaper to fix and more forgiving of something that's not supposed to be there going through the machine. Rolls are more expensive to buy up front, but maintenance is usually a lot lower despite having two rollers with twice as many bearings and a pivot at each end to allow them to spread enough for stuff to go between them... BUT when the rolls get old and the rubber starts going to pot, or if something that's "not supposed to be there" gets pulled into the rolls and tears up the rubber, then repairs are EXTREMELY expensive compared to flails. Rolls usually take more power to operate than flails as well. BUT the rollers also crimp/crush the plants between them, splitting the stems and cracking them, versus flails that just sorta rub the outer layers off and bruise the plants and maybe kink some of the stems as it bashes the stuff on the way through before it gets tossed out the back...
I mean, BOTH work, but it'd be interesting to hear their opinions and observations of which is actually doing the best job FOR THEM in THEIR CONDITIONS... (which might or might not apply to other folks elsewhere!)
Later! OL J R :)
whats with the red and blue on ur head bro? hahahaha lol
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Hi from Chad
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What happened to his head?
Dollar to doughnut...his girlfriend had something to do with it... Ooof.
Read the description, it’s from the 4th of July
I give a F