I can feel the tension and the stress your feeling myself as you try and manipulate those planks into position without losing your mind. and I also give you credit for finding solutions without walking away and packing it in for Good. You've Good Job Mark! I truly mean that, can't help but think! that when we have to endure hardships in the end they pay off and it reward is great as long as we never quit.
Funny you should mention that. I recall starting one myself but I didn't get very far. In retrospect I wish pushed through it to the end. I would have been a lot further ahead by now.
Wow. After viewing the progress and finally seeing the process, I can’t agree more with the notion of Instagram vs reality on this! Bravo and thanks for giving us the angel’s share of the distilled video.
The struggle is real in this. It's much more realistic than the impression I got on instagram. I knew it was tough, but this really showed how tough it was.
That must have been an exhausting day. I can hear the stress in your voice and see the tension in your back and shoulders. Thank you for including us in your journey
Stoked to find this channel. The 2.4mR is an amazing class. I spent a few years dabbling as a coach more than a sailor. You’ve made an interesting choice of keelboats for your first cold mold effort and it looks like you’re doing a great job. Very cool project!
Welcome aboard. For the record, I didn't make the choice. My work is customer driven and that's what the customer chose. We actually considered a stitch and glue plywood version first.
For post-steam box bending, in addition to the hot iron and wet rag, you may find useful the steamer of the sort that tailors use. It shoots a jet of steam from a flexible hose. The one I use is the size of a tea pot. It is electric and heats up quickly.
When I was an apprentice joiner we sometimes used to strut down from the ceiling with scrap battens to hold down odd shape timber while the glue set it saved unsightly pin holes after . Have you considered this
Beautiful boat the 2.4. Also having been brought up sailing cold moulded dinghies great to see the process. Would be interested in you thoughts on using plastic bags for streaming the complex curves. It supposedly allowed the plank to be on the mold as it is stream. This is not a suggestion as you are the expert.
Hi Graham. Plastic bags for steaming work very well but they are best suited to certain situations such as when you have a part that would be awkward to get in place before you loose your heat. Canoe gunnels are a good example. The don't need steam anywhere but on the last two or three feet. They would require a ver long steam box and they would cool off too much long before one person could get them in place. I have used plastic tubes made of bubble wrap for such a glue up and I also used old fire hose for several years but its smaller diameter made it a little hard to slip in place. For the 2.4, the planks are so small it doesn't make sense to try and use them. The shapes are just very complex and the challenge is that the planks need to conform to an extremely specific shape in order to sit just right. Getting them into the general shape, no problem. It's the last little bit that needs special attention and the bending iron is doing a good job of getting there.
i became confused between the 2 boats. are you moving them in and out of your garage including the concrete floor fasteners, or is it a time gap for editing? i want to thank you, not just for the time and effort filming and editing, which is a new thing for many people doing cool things... i want to thank you specifically for being very precise, but flexible. you clearly are on the sane side of the ocd tendency that binds people up, including myself. i like that you strive for perfection but understand that it doesn't exist, and that when you miss something by a hair you stop, think, but not for too long, and figure out how to deal with it while on camera so we can all learn from not only your extensive knowledge, but from the knowledge you gain as you do make mistakes. primarily, i want to thank you for, without mention, and i'm hoping maybe you can add an episode about general tool care, SETTING YOUR PLANES DOWN ON THEIR SIDES!!! i don't know how many amazing craftspeople i've watched who do amazing work and then slam their planes down or set down chisels bevel up. yes, they must be sharpened, and yes, it's fun in it's own right, but when you're in the middle of a project, how often do you really want to do that, esp if there's a screw or nail or even grit on the table WHY wouldn't you just make it a good habit? i have an old book here that i want to share with you too, "how to work with tools and wood", made by stanley. pocket books 1952. even if you are experienced, it's a great reference for what you are hoping to find at a garage sale. this is not a plug. if you see a stanley number 5, 6, 12, whatever you can look that up, and if you know you need something, you can figure out what to look for, by number. also... if you come across a bucket of OLD rusty paddle bits, before they started putting grooves and holes in the center, and you grind them down slowly and keep them cool, you have a set of chisels that say their size right on the back, and they can be used to make rabbet planes as well. when you mentioned buying a tiny one i thought "hmmm... making some sweet little concave, convex and flat planes would be a sweet new episode"... keep them coming. and PEOPLE, if you don't remember to like and subscribe... remember now. it's free information on our end. i only just realized i need to make this my OWN new habit. for the little blow out with the nails, consider looking up stewart-mcdonald and dan erlewine. with your banjo stuff i suspect you're familiar. when bb king needs lucille repaired... dan's the man. it's applicable to anything, and if you "aren't making a guitar", you can use the knowledge and fudge it with plenty of slack. I'm sure you'll need to edit or delete this due to verbosity but this is for you, not us. I went back through your whole history and double checked that i had liked them all, because yes i did. if you ever want to build a live oak stem/keel with the largest root and all that... i don't think a nordic style will fit in your (HUGE) garage, due to width, but i am in southern california and if i "branch out" i could easily find you something down here. i frequently pull over when i see trees being taken down, and say "hey, wait, can you just drop that in my driveway instead of chipping it up?" i've never had a refusal as they save hours and don't pay for disposal. research santa barbara tree species. we have 456 and local tree surgeons are a great source for people like us, although you have to specify no eucalyptus varieties, as their grain twists backward north of the hemisphere, like toilets. it was introduced to cali for railroad ties before they figured this out, and it just twists and cracks. if you buy it from down under it's a beautiful, insect repellent timbre but still with a grain twist, but up here it's virtually unusable. sorry i couldn't be more concise. CLICK TWO SPOTS PEOPLE, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE!
Willis, you just won first prize for the longest comment I have received to date. Shoot me an email with your address and I'll shoot you some stickers if that is of interest to you. In answer to you questions, the dory is complete and dispatched to its new owner quite some time ago but we are working our way through the footage as time allows and releasing the videos as often as possible. The 2.4mR Project is currently in the workshop. we are a few months ahead of the stage you see it at in the videos, and just as with the dory, working away through the footage, trying to catch up. I decided to leap frog the release of videos between the two projects, hoping to keep pace with progress on the 2.4mR project. not so much luck there but better than with the dory I suppose. When I am done with those two series, I can consider videos on other subject such as tool care, etc. I have quite a list actually, but little time to tackle it. As for using your crooks. Very generous offer but maybe not super practical getting those up here. When the pandemic is over and the border opens up, perhaps there is a trip down your way that could see me crossing paths with your supply of wiggly wood. I am certainly familiar with Dan Erlewine. Good man. if that is up your ally you should look up" twoodfrd" here on RUclips. Thank you for all your kind words sir, and enjoy the show.
Could you not make a hand held bending iron and clamp the wood at the bottom or top and work your way along the board a bit at a time pining as you go. Great job. Keep well and stay safe.
I suppose but we’re talking about a few struggles over a short time. There’s only so much screwing around looking for the perfect solution that you can afford to do. Sometimes the hard way is the easiest and fastest way.
I hear you but using the sticks has the advantage of spreading the pressure over a larger area. I’m trying to avoid stapling through the face of the planks in the areas that will get varnished so I’m stapling on the glueline.
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I can feel the tension and the stress your feeling myself as you try and manipulate those planks into position without losing your mind. and I also give you credit for finding solutions without walking away and packing it in for Good. You've Good Job Mark! I truly mean that, can't help but think! that when we have to endure hardships in the end they pay off and it reward is great as long as we never quit.
There was plenty of walking away but I really had no choice but to come back. In the end it’s my stubbornness that gets me through it.
You demonstrate the patience of Job. Reminds me of making balsa wood aeroplanes as a kid. A brilliant video thanks
Funny you should mention that. I recall starting one myself but I didn't get very far. In retrospect I wish pushed through it to the end. I would have been a lot further ahead by now.
Wow. After viewing the progress and finally seeing the process, I can’t agree more with the notion of Instagram vs reality on this! Bravo and thanks for giving us the angel’s share of the distilled video.
It felt worse than it looks too.
The struggle is real in this. It's much more realistic than the impression I got on instagram. I knew it was tough, but this really showed how tough it was.
We'll try to show you some more of the trials and tribulations in the next couple videos.
That must have been an exhausting day. I can hear the stress in your voice and see the tension in your back and shoulders. Thank you for including us in your journey
Just one of many but working that tuck was particularly crazy making.
Stoked to find this channel. The 2.4mR is an amazing class. I spent a few years dabbling as a coach more than a sailor. You’ve made an interesting choice of keelboats for your first cold mold effort and it looks like you’re doing a great job. Very cool project!
Welcome aboard. For the record, I didn't make the choice. My work is customer driven and that's what the customer chose. We actually considered a stitch and glue plywood version first.
Mark, Check out waxing irons for ski tuning. They are not expensive, have no holes and are half the size of a clothing iron.
Thanks. I'll check those out.
For post-steam box bending, in addition to the hot iron and wet rag, you may find useful the steamer of the sort that tailors use. It shoots a jet of steam from a flexible hose. The one I use is the size of a tea pot. It is electric and heats up quickly.
When I was an apprentice joiner we sometimes used to strut down from the ceiling with scrap battens to hold down odd shape timber while the glue set it saved unsightly pin holes after . Have you considered this
I used that method just the other day on something. All depends on how cooperative the ceiling is. Mine is pretty cluttered with a lot of storage.
Travel irons are quite small and very cheap. I bet you could make good use of one.
Beautiful boat the 2.4. Also having been brought up sailing cold moulded dinghies great to see the process.
Would be interested in you thoughts on using plastic bags for streaming the complex curves. It supposedly allowed the plank to be on the mold as it is stream. This is not a suggestion as you are the expert.
Hi Graham. Plastic bags for steaming work very well but they are best suited to certain situations such as when you have a part that would be awkward to get in place before you loose your heat. Canoe gunnels are a good example. The don't need steam anywhere but on the last two or three feet. They would require a ver long steam box and they would cool off too much long before one person could get them in place. I have used plastic tubes made of bubble wrap for such a glue up and I also used old fire hose for several years but its smaller diameter made it a little hard to slip in place. For the 2.4, the planks are so small it doesn't make sense to try and use them. The shapes are just very complex and the challenge is that the planks need to conform to an extremely specific shape in order to sit just right. Getting them into the general shape, no problem. It's the last little bit that needs special attention and the bending iron is doing a good job of getting there.
@@Nomadboatbuilding I am really enjoying this series and learning. A piece fell into place on lofting and really like the tin can for bending.
@@grahamm2015 That's good to hear. Glad I'm making things understandable.
i became confused between the 2 boats. are you moving them in and out of your garage including the concrete floor fasteners, or is it a time gap for editing? i want to thank you, not just for the time and effort filming and editing, which is a new thing for many people doing cool things... i want to thank you specifically for being very precise, but flexible. you clearly are on the sane side of the ocd tendency that binds people up, including myself. i like that you strive for perfection but understand that it doesn't exist, and that when you miss something by a hair you stop, think, but not for too long, and figure out how to deal with it while on camera so we can all learn from not only your extensive knowledge, but from the knowledge you gain as you do make mistakes. primarily, i want to thank you for, without mention, and i'm hoping maybe you can add an episode about general tool care, SETTING YOUR PLANES DOWN ON THEIR SIDES!!! i don't know how many amazing craftspeople i've watched who do amazing work and then slam their planes down or set down chisels bevel up. yes, they must be sharpened, and yes, it's fun in it's own right, but when you're in the middle of a project, how often do you really want to do that, esp if there's a screw or nail or even grit on the table WHY wouldn't you just make it a good habit? i have an old book here that i want to share with you too, "how to work with tools and wood", made by stanley. pocket books 1952. even if you are experienced, it's a great reference for what you are hoping to find at a garage sale. this is not a plug. if you see a stanley number 5, 6, 12, whatever you can look that up, and if you know you need something, you can figure out what to look for, by number. also... if you come across a bucket of OLD rusty paddle bits, before they started putting grooves and holes in the center, and you grind them down slowly and keep them cool, you have a set of chisels that say their size right on the back, and they can be used to make rabbet planes as well. when you mentioned buying a tiny one i thought "hmmm... making some sweet little concave, convex and flat planes would be a sweet new episode"... keep them coming. and PEOPLE, if you don't remember to like and subscribe... remember now. it's free information on our end. i only just realized i need to make this my OWN new habit. for the little blow out with the nails, consider looking up stewart-mcdonald and dan erlewine. with your banjo stuff i suspect you're familiar. when bb king needs lucille repaired... dan's the man. it's applicable to anything, and if you "aren't making a guitar", you can use the knowledge and fudge it with plenty of slack. I'm sure you'll need to edit or delete this due to verbosity but this is for you, not us. I went back through your whole history and double checked that i had liked them all, because yes i did. if you ever want to build a live oak stem/keel with the largest root and all that... i don't think a nordic style will fit in your (HUGE) garage, due to width, but i am in southern california and if i "branch out" i could easily find you something down here. i frequently pull over when i see trees being taken down, and say "hey, wait, can you just drop that in my driveway instead of chipping it up?" i've never had a refusal as they save hours and don't pay for disposal. research santa barbara tree species. we have 456 and local tree surgeons are a great source for people like us, although you have to specify no eucalyptus varieties, as their grain twists backward north of the hemisphere, like toilets. it was introduced to cali for railroad ties before they figured this out, and it just twists and cracks. if you buy it from down under it's a beautiful, insect repellent timbre but still with a grain twist, but up here it's virtually unusable. sorry i couldn't be more concise. CLICK TWO SPOTS PEOPLE, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE!
Willis, you just won first prize for the longest comment I have received to date. Shoot me an email with your address and I'll shoot you some stickers if that is of interest to you.
In answer to you questions, the dory is complete and dispatched to its new owner quite some time ago but we are working our way through the footage as time allows and releasing the videos as often as possible. The 2.4mR Project is currently in the workshop. we are a few months ahead of the stage you see it at in the videos, and just as with the dory, working away through the footage, trying to catch up. I decided to leap frog the release of videos between the two projects, hoping to keep pace with progress on the 2.4mR project. not so much luck there but better than with the dory I suppose. When I am done with those two series, I can consider videos on other subject such as tool care, etc. I have quite a list actually, but little time to tackle it.
As for using your crooks. Very generous offer but maybe not super practical getting those up here. When the pandemic is over and the border opens up, perhaps there is a trip down your way that could see me crossing paths with your supply of wiggly wood.
I am certainly familiar with Dan Erlewine. Good man. if that is up your ally you should look up" twoodfrd" here on RUclips.
Thank you for all your kind words sir, and enjoy the show.
Are you using 1.5mm thick cedar?
Double that. 3mm
Could you not make a hand held bending iron and clamp the wood at the bottom or top and work your way along the board a bit at a time pining as you go. Great job. Keep well and stay safe.
I suppose but we’re talking about a few struggles over a short time. There’s only so much screwing around looking for the perfect solution that you can afford to do. Sometimes the hard way is the easiest and fastest way.
A ski wax iron would work as a smaller one.
Tyson Anderson great suggestion. I hadn’t thought of that.
love your work, but the lightbulb fixture is just stupidly dangerous
I don't disagree one bit. I was always worried about forgetting to turn it off and burning the place down. It's since been permanently retired.
For a shorter iron search for “travel iron”.
I’ve since found something that a luthier turned me onto.
To staple down your planks try that yellow nylon woven packing tape. Staple trough that and the tape can be pulled and removes all the staples!!
I hear you but using the sticks has the advantage of spreading the pressure over a larger area. I’m trying to avoid stapling through the face of the planks in the areas that will get varnished so I’m stapling on the glueline.