I think "eco mode" in a naturally aspirated vehicle (no boost) is a drive mode that forces you to take it easy on revs. I would argue that you could probably get the same MPG if you simply didn't rev out each gear while in sport/track mode.
I've never had any issues. For Scat Packs 392/6.4L Hemi: Maintaining regular oil & oil filter changes, every 6-months or 6K-miles (whichever occurs first) at a minimum is a must. Use correct oil and use the SRT Oil Filter. Dodge Dealers stock the SRT approved oil and SRT oil filter (best approach specially if under warranty). If you do a significant amount of aggressive driving, there's no harm in doing this more frequently...5-months/5K-miles or even 4-months/4K-miles. Challenger folks could always go with a 6-Speed manual Trans., as these vehicles do not have MDS. Anyone with the 8-speed Auto. Trans. (Challenger/Charger) could always have the MDS Delete Kit installed, specially if thinking about internal mods (Cam, drop-in forged pistons/rods, etc.).
6k your nutz I don’t wait past 3k miles with amsoil signature series 0w40 full synthetic not partial synthetic. Of course I own a cat and not a scat never the less 485 hp na driven hard could benefit every 3k change.
@@joshreynolds729 I got AMSOIL basically 2miles from my house I believe its the only or maybe 1 of 2 . In the U.S. It's the distributor/main hub but I agree wtf does dodge use shitty ass PENNZOIL. & semi synthetic at that. Straight garbage 🗑 for sure . AMSOIL is da shit . They were the first in providing a 100% full synthetic .. not like these other brands that claim it but their not. 4k should be good if you using the best oil. We old skool.. I would say 3k. But oils have progressed & these vehicles run pretty clean so..
Especially around the city 4cyl mode turns off and on a lot so that causes more wear. So always do sport in the city and I do eco mode if I’m doing road trips on the highway.
I drive my 21 scatpack widebody in all modes depending on where I'm going and what I'm doing and for the info about the hemi tick look in your performance features guide book on page 81 in the note section and it will explain about the tick!
I only use eco if I get caught driving around town in the rain or snow. Eco mode keeps you in 2nd gear from a stop, so you’re not spinning as easy on wet or snowy pavement.
I've got a 23 SP on order and will likely only use eco if getting caught in rain or snow (which I do not plan on driving in regularly if I can help it).
I'm 64 yo, just bought my scat new. I always drive in sport or custom w/tranny in sport. I hate mds engaged. I figure if you don't use it, well, it won't fuck up. These cars rock! Fastest hotrod I've ever owned. 😁
I noticed these hemi's don't like eco mode. You can put everything in street which is like eco...that only drops the gear down to 1 instead of 2 from a stop. I think eco does help with cooling as well...in keeping rpms low so you don't wear the engine faster. Other than that, you're only saving 1-2mpgs city. Maybe 3mpgs highway... It also comes down to how you drive! Great vid! Great topic!
Original Hemis 93 and 94 were designed for 180 thermostat and 10w-30 oils. Even the first SRT 6.1 . The EPA forced a 203 thermostat and thinner oils to burn off a tenth of emissions! So unlock PCM and install 180 thermostat and keep oil fresh and add Lucas stabilizer, you can't go 6k miles between oil changes with throttle wide open. Extended idling causes lifter wear. Under engine hours meter, the dealership can see averages on throttle position. Some people complain about mpg, service center says throttle open to 90% open at 60% of time. Just like the Blackbox records brake/throttle position and speed when airbags deployed.
Any body that’s says eco is fine. Why do u even get a muscle car get a Honda if u can’t afford gas fake frontin just too have a hemi but scared to take it out for a drive if it hurts ur pockets u shouldn’t even have a hemi
I took my 21 Scatpack from NW Ohio to Manhattan (8 hours one way) I took the turnpike and used Eco-mode basically the entire time other than when someone tried to test me every hour or so I’d jus switch to Sport rq. Round trip it was just over 1100 mile trip and I did 25.4 MPG from the time I pulled out the driveway to when I got home. Also had some fun in sport downtown so I’d say all in all Eco mode does its job considering I’ve had no problems with the car 3000 miles later.
I know the mds system causes issues, but I don't think driving in eco is what causes the problems. The internals are in the engine regardless of what mode you drive in. So I think it is simply the components in the engine rather than the mode you drive in. But I could be wrong. I only do eco mode when on the highway on a road trip.
@@jaredgonzalez8421 Multi-Displacement System. It's what shuts off 4 of the 8 cylinders during easy driving for fuel economy. Chevy has it too, but it's called something else.
@@jaredgonzalez8421 As far as I know, tune will disable it. On the Scat Packs, putting into Sport, Track, or Custom Mode turns it off. Maybe yours has the same feature. But I'm not sure.
I had a dealership tell me that my dodge charger automatically switches to eco mode when I drive but usly when I have it sport it doesn't switch but it did it on its own is that supposed to happen
Traction control uses brakes while driving. Traction control wears brake pads faster. My 2015 Outbacks rear pads wear faster than the front because of traction control. It kills gas milage also.
I drive in eco often at times🤦🏽♂️if I have hemi tick I’m gonna drive my car through the front of the dealership😤I’m thinking like is that what that ticking noise is or am I tripping. Now you got me about to go drive my car at 1am.
I put it in eco if I wanna just go cruising around town ow key and not tryna throw my mom back in her seat at every stop sign I. And unless I'm on my daily commute to work I keep it in custom not just to have all the power but also have all the sounds you get with it lmao
I have the MDS feature disabled in my tune, I drive generally in normal mode, because it uses less gasoline than Sport Mode does, I use Sport Mode when I get aggressive with it. Only the automatics have the MDS feature, and I would never use the ECO mode, I feel the same as you about that.
I don't know if the dodgers have the auto stop-start. Where engine turns off at the light but i've heard that's bad news. Just wears down your starter way faster
Sport mode is basically the SRT engine as it's meant to be driven. Not eco mode. If you want eco buy a prius. They give you Street mode as the default so that new drivers can basically get used to the power without it being insane like Sport or Track mode. Regularly scheduled oil changes and not letting your vehicle idle (excluding the 6 speed manuals) help to greatly lower the likelihood of getting the hemi tick.
Idling them hemis definitely bad. I knew about 4cyl mode in eco but i didnt even know the newer models have mds that affects the street mode but i noticed a difference now that you say it. I can confirm street/eco slip the trans in the lower gears when your light on the throttle my 19 has 14k miles
I use eco mode for drive to work. 40 miles one way, 1 highway. Average 27 miles per gallon. South Texas highway so not much of hills for mds to switch to 8 cylinders. Rt plus 2015 153k.
Honestly eco mode has been amazing for me on freeway drives (I'm actually impressed how much gas I save on it), but I only drive in custom mode (track trans, sport everything else) in the city and that seems to be a well balance. 5k miles in and no ticks yet. I had the dreaded tick in my previous 5.0 Mustang since the day I bought it for several years, but it never caused me an issue.
@@sipspurp6545 I was told that you can only deactivate MDS through HP Tuners (i would assume you could use Diablo Tuners as well) or a Tazer. I would go the HP Tuners because you have more options.
I drive my 21 Scat in Sport pretty much all the time. Was trying to figure out in a month when I have a 300 trip whether or not to use Eco. I doubt I will
Only time the v4 cylinder mode is even on its at cruise speed. If your not meticulous with maintenance of your hemi that's what causes issues. I have an 08 ram with mds and no tick thing has never had issues. But I follow recommended services to the T.
Whim I ride with my kids eco mode so it’s not so crazy loud and by myself track mode.u don’t think it’ll hurt the engine unless you floor it on eco.eco it’s just to cruise on the freeway but most of the time for me track is the best mode
I don't need anybody telling me how to spend my hard earned cash. I buy what I can afford and drive it when I feel like driving it. There's something new to learn about most new cars. I watch these videos for that reason only. My 2004 Kawasaki 1200 ZX12R will blow the the doors off my Scat Pack any day of the week. 10 sec qtr mile, 200 mph top speed. I don't have anything to prove. Alas my Kia Rio gets around 44 mpg hwy. Nobody lives forever, be careful out there. There's sidewalks on every corner. Cheers
I just bought my scatpack two weeks ago and every time I start it it’s automatically already in Eco mode? Is there anyway I can change that? I’ve just been changing it to Sport mode by reading and watching vids most Scat drivers seem to use Sport.
To have it start without the eco mode put it in the auto mode and tap the eco button. The green leaf will go off and now on every start it will be in just auto, not auto/eco mode. If you want eco back on go to auto and tap on the eco.
My thought is everything is turning and wearing while the engine is running and lifter and cam should not be under any more or less strain in either mode . Now the piston and rings and crank and rod bearings on the cylinders that are deleted in economy mode are under less stress but are still turning and still wearing but I really don’t know how much difference there wearing compared to the working cylinders. I wouldn’t think there would be a noticeable difference.
I'm still trying to figure out which came first, the chicken or the egg? Anyways, I have never tried to figure out how to go to eco mode. However, I'm in auto mode about 50% of the time. Does it cut 4 cylinders in auto? Sorry for my ignorance, I just get in the car and drive. Auto mode when I start out, and then sport or track when it's time to step things up.
Bro make me understand this i have a 2021 Charger Scatpack widebody when i click on "SRT PAGE" i see 4 mods. 1. Track 2. Sport 3. Costum 4. Auto So Which one of these Mods is Eco? Anyone explain it
I run Sport mode 95% of the time, Track mode 4% of the time, and eco or auto 1% of the time. I'm spoiled, it takes too loon for the 8 speed to shift ijn auto or eco mode. I will use eco mode sometimes in the snow because it starts out in 2nd gear. 85,000 trouble free miles so far!
I drive eco when it's traffic and I cant turn up, I have a heavy foot. Nothing to do with affording gas. I figured the drive modes where situational 🤷🏾♂️ Hence the titles Track, Sport and Street.
Once again, great video. Personally I’m more of a street/sport type of driver. At the moment the car is my daily and I spend a good amount of time in traffic so occasionally I’ll drop it in eco mode.
Cool videos great knowledge, can you do a video on track mode and sport ? I herd sport gives you more throttle response like bubbles or something and I’ve herd ALOT of ppl say track really messes up your transmission. Is this true ? Plz make a video I think it would be a very ingesting subject.
make sure you get extended warranty when you blow 1 of these 392's up mopar charge you 14,000 parts and labor , i have blown 3 of these up in 2 years SHIT HAPPENS , and by the way the car was meticulously sevice at the dealer.Still bougjt another 1 fun cars
We use it all the time ,on chevys and Hemis ,, when you use the eco mode you use it in traffic , so you don’t floor it got me . is a bit exaggeration. It is safe as long as your foot is steady on the gas . Friends of mine have 6.4 with eco mode for over 5 years with no problem .
I would never use eco mode just because I prefer power 24/7. I think the "hemi tick" is more from poor oil maintenance and leaving car in idle for long periods of time
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange Cranking the engine takes a tremendous amount of power from your battery, but as mentioned previously, the alternator recharges your battery while the engine runs. If you’re frequently going on short drives, though, the alternator might not have enough time to properly recharge your battery between pit stops - especially if you have an older battery. In the long run, frequent short trips can shorten your car battery’s lifespan
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange That's why I asked my first questions cause you talked about he "hemi tick" happening when you leave the car on for a long period of time, how long are we talking about?
The lifters have been revised for 2019+ model vehicles, not saying people still haven't had problems with those years and newer but just saying it just in case folks are hesitant on the engines itself. Good points on the heavy idling. Good thing is, people are paying attention a little bit more maintenance wise.
Crazy how maintenance is overlooked by so many people. Especially those who care so much about how it looks inside and out but don't care or are too cheap to pay for maintenance
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange exactly, neglect will get you into situations that could have easily been prevented. You even got the maintenance guide in the Uconnect system itself and still people just don't care or ignore basic, common maintenance.
@@jggcsrt yup. Unfortunately many people get the car because they think they can afford the monthly payment... then they realize insurance, gas, maintenance. And they decide that maintenance is optional lol
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange i just ordered a 22 widebody scatpack . Some of us just know better sir. And mines will be in the garage until sat when , I'm off work. My 87 cutlass will be driven on sun. Some youtubers you can learn from and some just copying off the last video. These cars will be worth something in the near future. I see a lot of taking delivery and selling on here. It blows my mind on what people do for clicks and likes.
I very rarely use Eco Mode in my Scat Pack. 90% of the time it's in Sport. The couple long road trips I've taken, I'll set it to Eco for cruising on the highway. Around town though? Nope. It's pointless. I much prefer the finely tuned throttle response in Sport too, it's so good. EDIT: I got the Carven R's installed on my 2019 Scat, best exhaust for the 6.4 hands down... ruclips.net/video/kB5tnyx9yDw/видео.html
I use eco mode and mostly drive 50mph since speed limit is 35...no matter what you don't save gas I fill up every 3days maybe 4... I average 20mpg but that doesn't mean anything
I may be new, hence the name "Novice_Lion", but I keep mine in Eco. More like it's the default setting since I found it some months ago. I'm going on 8 months with mine and (got it in June 2021) and even in Eco it can get up and go!
This is such a debated topic with no real facts out there. MDS is on a lot of cars, just called different things and yes 5 those issues follow over there as well. Get a warranty, keep your car running
Also another thing I noticed⚠️if you have an after market exhaust (like for me I have corsa) don’t drive it in eco. It does this weird blowing noise right when the cylinders cut to 4. Not sure if anyone else has this issue
No need 2 lie bout something like that. I had a RT for 3 years then traded it for 2021 cat brand new not even 3 months in I had a tick had 2 go back 2 the dealership
Also bro what's the link for the Air intake? I have a 2021 Scat widebody does the one you have will fits in 2021 Scatpack widebody? I know yours is 2020.
This my daily for work so It’s on eco mode but when am not I switch it to custom or sport really depends on the day and I never heard of the topic your talking about
I’ve never heard about the 4 cylinders firing in street. I know if you’re in street it switches to 6 cylinders to give you AWD. However, that’s only when the car senses it needs traction. Regardless it’s very rarely. Sport uses the same traction switch from RWD to AWD so unless you turn traction off you’re not forcing RWD anyway. Track even uses sport traction unless again it’s switched off.
With all you’ve mentioned I respect what you bought yours for but to be honest with having your car in eco or sport doesn’t or won’t affect your engines lifters. What does is your oil pressure making sure they are well lubricated. So the more you push your car aggressively the more likely that will or can happen. Has nothing to do at all with any mode you put your car in it’s not about saving gas it’s about saving the life of your engine. Do you research correctly before posting videos just so people will watch them.
Yeah this is true in a way but for someone who drives on the highway with eco mode for 2-3 years putting 10-15k miles on the high way it causes the 4 cylinders get more w&t when switching back to sport.
Louie, you make good content, won’t knock you there but this is straight BULLSHIT and borderline CLICK BAIT…and you know it. If there was any truth you’d have a lot more stories and content on YT about 392’s having this issue. Hell, there ain’t even a lot of 5.7’s with this issue. Stop it, you’re better that this.
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What are your thoughts on Eco Mode??
I think "eco mode" in a naturally aspirated vehicle (no boost) is a drive mode that forces you to take it easy on revs. I would argue that you could probably get the same MPG if you simply didn't rev out each gear while in sport/track mode.
I run mine on the Manuel mode is that bad ? Cause running it on Manuel it doesn’t go into eco mode
Police & State Troopers idle their Chargers all damn shift,…so idk
When I travel i use eco mode because it burns less gas never had a issue in either charger I owned.
Damn bro I was looking at ur vid n didn’t realize I wasn’t a subber to ur channel mad disrespectful lol just got a new subber keep the grind homie
Bro I hear not to drive my Scat in Track, Sport, street, and eco, bout to just push the car around my town😂😂😂😂, good video.
Lmfao! 😂😂 You ain’t lying!
driving your car can mess up the engine better just storing it in the garage
You right😂😂
I never heard street, I heard track can be dangerous, I ALWAYS hear eco will eventually be a problem...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I've never had any issues. For Scat Packs 392/6.4L Hemi: Maintaining regular oil & oil filter changes, every 6-months or 6K-miles (whichever occurs first) at a minimum is a must. Use correct oil and use the SRT Oil Filter. Dodge Dealers stock the SRT approved oil and SRT oil filter (best approach specially if under warranty). If you do a significant amount of aggressive driving, there's no harm in doing this more frequently...5-months/5K-miles or even 4-months/4K-miles. Challenger folks could always go with a 6-Speed manual Trans., as these vehicles do not have MDS. Anyone with the 8-speed Auto. Trans. (Challenger/Charger) could always have the MDS Delete Kit installed, specially if thinking about internal mods (Cam, drop-in forged pistons/rods, etc.).
6k your nutz I don’t wait past 3k miles with amsoil signature series 0w40 full synthetic not partial synthetic. Of course I own a cat and not a scat never the less 485 hp na driven hard could benefit every 3k change.
@@joshreynolds729 I got AMSOIL basically 2miles from my house I believe its the only or maybe 1 of 2 . In the U.S.
It's the distributor/main hub but I agree wtf does dodge use shitty ass PENNZOIL. & semi synthetic at that. Straight garbage 🗑 for sure .
AMSOIL is da shit . They were the first in providing a 100% full synthetic .. not like these other brands that claim it but their not. 4k should be good if you using the best oil. We old skool.. I would say 3k. But oils have progressed & these vehicles run pretty clean so..
Thanks I was worried 6 speed tremec lol
Good thing I got a six speed 🎱
Especially around the city 4cyl mode turns off and on a lot so that causes more wear. So always do sport in the city and I do eco mode if I’m doing road trips on the highway.
I drive my 21 scatpack widebody in all modes depending on where I'm going and what I'm doing and for the info about the hemi tick look in your performance features guide book on page 81 in the note section and it will explain about the tick!
I only use eco if I get caught driving around town in the rain or snow. Eco mode keeps you in 2nd gear from a stop, so you’re not spinning as easy on wet or snowy pavement.
I've got a 23 SP on order and will likely only use eco if getting caught in rain or snow (which I do not plan on driving in regularly if I can help it).
I'm 64 yo, just bought my scat new. I always drive in sport or custom w/tranny in sport. I hate mds engaged. I figure if you don't use it, well, it won't fuck up. These cars rock! Fastest hotrod I've ever owned. 😁
My 05 magnum did that back in 2010... Now my scatpack has MDS disabled
I noticed these hemi's don't like eco mode. You can put everything in street which is like eco...that only drops the gear down to 1 instead of 2 from a stop. I think eco does help with cooling as well...in keeping rpms low so you don't wear the engine faster.
Other than that, you're only saving 1-2mpgs city. Maybe 3mpgs highway...
It also comes down to how you drive!
Great vid! Great topic!
True that. Appreciate it Hem!
Original Hemis 93 and 94 were designed for 180 thermostat and 10w-30 oils. Even the first SRT 6.1 . The EPA forced a 203 thermostat and thinner oils to burn off a tenth of emissions! So unlock PCM and install 180 thermostat and keep oil fresh and add Lucas stabilizer, you can't go 6k miles between oil changes with throttle wide open. Extended idling causes lifter wear. Under engine hours meter, the dealership can see averages on throttle position. Some people complain about mpg, service center says throttle open to 90% open at 60% of time. Just like the Blackbox records brake/throttle position and speed when airbags deployed.
Any body that’s says eco is fine. Why do u even get a muscle car get a Honda if u can’t afford gas fake frontin just too have a hemi but scared to take it out for a drive if it hurts ur pockets u shouldn’t even have a hemi
But then people bash on people that have sxts or gts
I took my 21 Scatpack from NW Ohio to Manhattan (8 hours one way) I took the turnpike and used Eco-mode basically the entire time other than when someone tried to test me every hour or so I’d jus switch to Sport rq. Round trip it was just over 1100 mile trip and I did 25.4 MPG from the time I pulled out the driveway to when I got home. Also had some fun in sport downtown so I’d say all in all Eco mode does its job considering I’ve had no problems with the car 3000 miles later.
real talk tho if I’m jus crusin around I’m stayin in sport jus to have the power at my disposal like bro said
I hear ticking noise on my new 2021 charger hellcat when parked or idling
I know the mds system causes issues, but I don't think driving in eco is what causes the problems. The internals are in the engine regardless of what mode you drive in. So I think it is simply the components in the engine rather than the mode you drive in. But I could be wrong. I only do eco mode when on the highway on a road trip.
That makes sense. I could agree with that.
What’s a mds system
@@jaredgonzalez8421 Multi-Displacement System. It's what shuts off 4 of the 8 cylinders during easy driving for fuel economy. Chevy has it too, but it's called something else.
@@shannontaylor5173 how could I disable this in my 19 charger rt
@@jaredgonzalez8421 As far as I know, tune will disable it. On the Scat Packs, putting into Sport, Track, or Custom Mode turns it off. Maybe yours has the same feature. But I'm not sure.
I had the HEMI tick in my RAM, fortunately my warranty covered it. 3500 to fix.
I had a dealership tell me that my dodge charger automatically switches to eco mode when I drive but usly when I have it sport it doesn't switch but it did it on its own is that supposed to happen
2020 Scat Charger, getting 16mpg around town 24 mpg highway @ 75mpg with AC running. I wont use eco mode.
Traction control uses brakes while driving. Traction control wears brake pads faster. My 2015 Outbacks rear pads wear faster than the front because of traction control. It kills gas milage also.
What's more expensive, tires or brake pads lol
Tryna kill some new scatty drivers 😂 someone gonna see this, turn off TC, drive around and crash
Bought my first scat pack charger today and love it in all modes.
I drive in eco often at times🤦🏽♂️if I have hemi tick I’m gonna drive my car through the front of the dealership😤I’m thinking like is that what that ticking noise is or am I tripping. Now you got me about to go drive my car at 1am.
Lmao. Wouldn't worry too much. It's not a fact that it will hurt anything. It's just a subject of debate.
Most of them do tick. Mine does. 😅 even my dodge truck 5.4 L ticks
can't we disable eco mode on the fly while driving once you select sport or track ? Or do you have to be on park mode before you can disable eco mode?
Nope u can be driving and all u gotta do is push sport and u good 2 go. No need 2 park.
I put it in eco if I wanna just go cruising around town ow key and not tryna throw my mom back in her seat at every stop sign I. And unless I'm on my daily commute to work I keep it in custom not just to have all the power but also have all the sounds you get with it lmao
I have the MDS feature disabled in my tune, I drive generally in normal mode, because it uses less gasoline than Sport Mode does, I use Sport Mode when I get aggressive with it. Only the automatics have the MDS feature, and I would never use the ECO mode, I feel the same as you about that.
How do u disable it
00:58 I only got an sxt right now but even with rising gas prices I still push this thing every single day
I use slick 50 and Marvel Mystery oil anything that helps lubricate that motor better
I don't know if the dodgers have the auto stop-start. Where engine turns off at the light but i've heard that's bad news. Just wears down your starter way faster
Sport mode is basically the SRT engine as it's meant to be driven. Not eco mode. If you want eco buy a prius. They give you Street mode as the default so that new drivers can basically get used to the power without it being insane like Sport or Track mode. Regularly scheduled oil changes and not letting your vehicle idle (excluding the 6 speed manuals) help to greatly lower the likelihood of getting the hemi tick.
i have a prius and i want to get this scat i am just not prepared for the gas difference at all lmfao
Idling them hemis definitely bad. I knew about 4cyl mode in eco but i didnt even know the newer models have mds that affects the street mode but i noticed a difference now that you say it. I can confirm street/eco slip the trans in the lower gears when your light on the throttle my 19 has 14k miles
I use eco mode for drive to work. 40 miles one way, 1 highway. Average 27 miles per gallon. South Texas highway so not much of hills for mds to switch to 8 cylinders. Rt plus 2015 153k.
Honestly eco mode has been amazing for me on freeway drives (I'm actually impressed how much gas I save on it), but I only drive in custom mode (track trans, sport everything else) in the city and that seems to be a well balance. 5k miles in and no ticks yet. I had the dreaded tick in my previous 5.0 Mustang since the day I bought it for several years, but it never caused me an issue.
It's all good until your car won't start one day out the blue, ask me how I know. Ever since my magnum RT did that I have my scatpacks MDS disabled.
@@Davis2920022001 so you should always drive your car on either custom mode (track/ sport) than auto mode/ eco mode?
I got 91k miles on my scat, still no tick. Great car
Usually drive it on echo mode when cops/state troopers are behind me or in my area lol 😅 custom sport mode daily
My MDS is still active in track mode for me on my 5.7 Hemi Challenger. I have no idea why, but it drives me crazy! Great video!💪🏽
That’s weird. Appreciate it Doom!
@@louiexiii91 No problem! Keep up the great content!💪🏽
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Same, how tf do we fix that shit 😂
@@sipspurp6545 I was told that you can only deactivate MDS through HP Tuners (i would assume you could use Diablo Tuners as well) or a Tazer. I would go the HP Tuners because you have more options.
Why would they have an eco mode if it damages the engine? Trust the technicians that actually built the damn vehicle.
I drive my 21 Scat in Sport pretty much all the time. Was trying to figure out in a month when I have a 300 trip whether or not to use Eco. I doubt I will
Thanks for puttin this up Louie! We've talked about this in other vids. btw...can you share what you are averagin in sport mode mpg? Smiles not Miles!
Yes sir! I get about 12-13 usually.
While idling I have somewhat of a knocking sound anyone know what it could be... I have a 2019 scat pack charge 6.4
I’d definitely take that in and get it checked out asap
Only time the v4 cylinder mode is even on its at cruise speed. If your not meticulous with maintenance of your hemi that's what causes issues. I have an 08 ram with mds and no tick thing has never had issues. But I follow recommended services to the T.
Just buy it and leave it at the dealer. Take an Uber to and back from it though.
I have a 21 rt wondering if I should drive in sport and not have the eco kick in?
Whim I ride with my kids eco mode so it’s not so crazy loud and by myself track mode.u don’t think it’ll hurt the engine unless you floor it on eco.eco it’s just to cruise on the freeway but most of the time for me track is the best mode
I don't need anybody telling me how to spend my hard earned cash. I buy what I can afford and drive it when I feel like driving it. There's something new to learn about most new cars. I watch these videos for that reason only. My 2004 Kawasaki 1200 ZX12R will blow the the doors off my Scat Pack any day of the week. 10 sec qtr mile, 200 mph top speed. I don't have anything to prove. Alas my Kia Rio gets around 44 mpg hwy. Nobody lives forever, be careful out there. There's sidewalks on every corner. Cheers
I just bought my scatpack two weeks ago and every time I start it it’s automatically already in Eco mode? Is there anyway I can change that? I’ve just been changing it to Sport mode by reading and watching vids most Scat drivers seem to use Sport.
To have it start without the eco mode put it in the auto mode and tap the eco button. The green leaf will go off and now on every start it will be in just auto, not auto/eco mode. If you want eco back on go to auto and tap on the eco.
My thought is everything is turning and wearing while the engine is running and lifter and cam should not be under any more or less strain in either mode .
Now the piston and rings and crank and rod bearings on the cylinders that are deleted in economy mode are under less stress but are still turning and still wearing but I really don’t know how much difference there wearing compared to the working cylinders.
I wouldn’t think there would be a noticeable difference.
I Only use eco mode in rain & if my destination is 35 mins away all freeway
What if it’s just an auto with Eco turned off?
Great video bro love when you post💯🤙🏽
Appreciate you Fern!
Won’t lie I been driving in eco recently so I’m less tempted to gas it so I can get my mpg up 😭😮💨
I'm still trying to figure out which came first, the chicken or the egg? Anyways, I have never tried to figure out how to go to eco mode. However, I'm in auto mode about 50% of the time. Does it cut 4 cylinders in auto? Sorry for my ignorance, I just get in the car and drive. Auto mode when I start out, and then sport or track when it's time to step things up.
Lol you good man. Auto mode is pretty much street transmission, so yeah it does cut on 4 cylinder mode in auto.
how many mpg do you guys get on eco and on sport? i get like 13 on sport and 15 on eco
I get about 12-13 on sport. Never drove eco so wouldn’t know.
Bro make me understand this i have a 2021 Charger Scatpack widebody when i click on "SRT PAGE" i see 4 mods.
1. Track
2. Sport
3. Costum
4. Auto
So Which one of these Mods is Eco? Anyone explain it
Auto is eco I have a 2021 also
Auto is street unless you set auto to be eco. Go to drive modes, that’s where you’ll find eco
I have a stick shift scat pack n eco mode is not an option
I run Sport mode 95% of the time, Track mode 4% of the time, and eco or auto 1% of the time. I'm spoiled, it takes too loon for the 8 speed to shift ijn auto or eco mode. I will use eco mode sometimes in the snow because it starts out in 2nd gear. 85,000 trouble free miles so far!
I drive eco when it's traffic and I cant turn up, I have a heavy foot. Nothing to do with affording gas. I figured the drive modes where situational 🤷🏾♂️ Hence the titles Track, Sport and Street.
Wassup bro? Street mode only goes into 4cyl mode if light on the throttle. Also in street mode, if you put in manual, it stays in v8 mode💪💪
Appreciate the info Dam
@@louiexiii91 bro, I also recently found out that if you you push the drive mode button 2x it automatically puts it in custom mode
How long should you let it idle? Specially when you doing a cold start to let it warm up?
Just until the Rpm's drop from the initial warm up. That's what I do
I feel the same way, I only used Eco Mode once for a just a few minutes, Just to see if it worked.
Lmao same here
Once again, great video. Personally I’m more of a street/sport type of driver. At the moment the car is my daily and I spend a good amount of time in traffic so occasionally I’ll drop it in eco mode.
Appreciate it J! All about whatever works for you.
Cool videos great knowledge, can you do a video on track mode and sport ? I herd sport gives you more throttle response like bubbles or something and I’ve herd ALOT of ppl say track really messes up your transmission. Is this true ? Plz make a video I think it would be a very ingesting subject.
Appreciate it. I’ve actually already made several videos on both. You’ll find em in the catalog
make sure you get extended warranty when you blow 1 of these 392's up mopar charge you 14,000 parts and labor , i have blown 3 of these up in 2 years SHIT HAPPENS , and by the way the car was meticulously sevice at the dealer.Still bougjt another 1 fun cars
What’s the difference with Sport and Track mode? I have a Daytona RT i don’t think i have Track Mode.
Even harder shifts, no 8th gear, louder exhaust, tighter steering and suspension.
@@jizzyjake6783 That happens in sport mode as well
@@Murphys_Law9 yeah like that but even more haha
We use it all the time ,on chevys and Hemis ,, when you use the eco mode you use it in traffic , so you don’t floor it got me . is a bit exaggeration. It is safe as long as your foot is steady on the gas . Friends of mine have 6.4 with eco mode for over 5 years with no problem .
I would never use eco mode just because I prefer power 24/7. I think the "hemi tick" is more from poor oil maintenance and leaving car in idle for long periods of time
Doesnt it drain the battery fast if you keep turning it off on short trips as well?
@@skoluh drain battery? I don't get your question
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange Cranking the engine takes a tremendous amount of power from your battery, but as mentioned previously, the alternator recharges your battery while the engine runs. If you’re frequently going on short drives, though, the alternator might not have enough time to properly recharge your battery between pit stops - especially if you have an older battery. In the long run, frequent short trips can shorten your car battery’s lifespan
@@skoluh shortening your battery's lifespan? Why is that even a concern? I'm confused...
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange That's why I asked my first questions cause you talked about he "hemi tick" happening when you leave the car on for a long period of time, how long are we talking about?
I got a 18 honda civic ex plus
I bought 2022 Scat pack W buddy 5608miles I already put $20,000 to size Just in case something goes wrong.
When you get it tuned your tuner can tune that mds out,,,I love my Scatty
what would you ask for
@@meniss7284 Huh? There is nothing to ask a good tuner will do it automatically,,especially if it's straight piped like mine is
okay cool, chill I’m still young trying to figure out what car I want
@@meniss7284 I'm cool as a fan what you mean chill?
Sports mode is NOT recommended for daily commute driving either. It's a no win win situation
Is Dodge going to refresh the charger widebodiesfor 2023?
The Xiii merch looking dope 🔥🔥🔥
Appreciate you Win!
Yo bro,first of all congrats on new benz.!! What's the best way to wash your scatpack? Should I take it to carwash or do handwash?
Handwash or touchless car wash if you care about the paint.
The lifters have been revised for 2019+ model vehicles, not saying people still haven't had problems with those years and newer but just saying it just in case folks are hesitant on the engines itself. Good points on the heavy idling. Good thing is, people are paying attention a little bit more maintenance wise.
Crazy how maintenance is overlooked by so many people. Especially those who care so much about how it looks inside and out but don't care or are too cheap to pay for maintenance
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange exactly, neglect will get you into situations that could have easily been prevented. You even got the maintenance guide in the Uconnect system itself and still people just don't care or ignore basic, common maintenance.
@@jggcsrt yup. Unfortunately many people get the car because they think they can afford the monthly payment... then they realize insurance, gas, maintenance. And they decide that maintenance is optional lol
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange hahaha true
@@NJ_Scat_Hemi_Orange i just ordered a 22 widebody scatpack . Some of us just know better sir. And mines will be in the garage until sat when , I'm off work. My 87 cutlass will be driven on sun. Some youtubers you can learn from and some just copying off the last video. These cars will be worth something in the near future. I see a lot of taking delivery and selling on here. It blows my mind on what people do for clicks and likes.
I should have my scat here in a few weeks and I will never be in eco mode (mds). 100% i bought the car to race it not pace it.
Have you got a hemi tick ?
I haven't
I very rarely use Eco Mode in my Scat Pack. 90% of the time it's in Sport. The couple long road trips I've taken, I'll set it to Eco for cruising on the highway. Around town though? Nope. It's pointless. I much prefer the finely tuned throttle response in Sport too, it's so good.
EDIT: I got the Carven R's installed on my 2019 Scat, best exhaust for the 6.4 hands down...
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you should make a video on going over the performance pages 👍
Is auto mode the same as eco or street?
Auto mode is basically street mode
I use eco mode and mostly drive 50mph since speed limit is 35...no matter what you don't save gas I fill up every 3days maybe 4... I average 20mpg but that doesn't mean anything
Average 11.4 & fill up every 4days guess mpg really doesn’t mean anything
I may be new, hence the name "Novice_Lion", but I keep mine in Eco. More like it's the default setting since I found it some months ago. I'm going on 8 months with mine and (got it in June 2021) and even in Eco it can get up and go!
All about what works for you! Glad you’re enjoying it!
Only time I think about using eco mode is when it’s raining. But I still don’t. 😅
Where that AMG at tho ahahaha
Lmao it's waiting for me in my future bro!
This is such a debated topic with no real facts out there. MDS is on a lot of cars, just called different things and yes 5 those issues follow over there as well. Get a warranty, keep your car running
Also another thing I noticed⚠️if you have an after market exhaust (like for me I have corsa) don’t drive it in eco. It does this weird blowing noise right when the cylinders cut to 4. Not sure if anyone else has this issue
It's not going to hurt nothing bro drive that thing lol
Y’all really gonna make me Fred flintstone the scat😂😂😂
Lmao
I just had mines turned off
Hemi tick is more of a 5.7 issue, scats don’t have to worry.
🤣 not true at all? Even hell cats get hemi ticks . Any vehicle with a hemi can get this problem car or truck.
@@ds-ld1kb as i said, it's more of a 5.7 issue. Rarely do you see it on scats or cats.
Rare is not a proper word 2 use. I know plenty of cat and scat owners with ticks. (Plenty). So not rare at all.
@@ds-ld1kb why you lyin
No need 2 lie bout something like that. I had a RT for 3 years then traded it for 2021 cat brand new not even 3 months in I had a tick had 2 go back 2 the dealership
You know what dosen't have shitty lifters , hellcats and hellcats redeye
Also bro what's the link for the Air intake? I have a 2021 Scat widebody does the one you have will fits in 2021 Scatpack widebody? I know yours is 2020.
the DOD tears it down slowly
I never use mds mode. Fuck I look like lol
This my daily for work so It’s on eco mode but when am not I switch it to custom or sport really depends on the day and I never heard of the topic your talking about
How does it drive on eco mode, I’m picking mine up from the dealership next week and it’s going to be my daily driver
It feels more smoothly when shifting gears and it’s not as fast as any other modes
I’ve never heard about the 4 cylinders firing in street. I know if you’re in street it switches to 6 cylinders to give you AWD. However, that’s only when the car senses it needs traction. Regardless it’s very rarely. Sport uses the same traction switch from RWD to AWD so unless you turn traction off you’re not forcing RWD anyway. Track even uses sport traction unless again it’s switched off.
With all you’ve mentioned I respect what you bought yours for but to be honest with having your car in eco or sport doesn’t or won’t affect your engines lifters. What does is your oil pressure making sure they are well lubricated. So the more you push your car aggressively the more likely that will or can happen. Has nothing to do at all with any mode you put your car in it’s not about saving gas it’s about saving the life of your engine. Do you research correctly before posting videos just so people will watch them.
Yeah this is true in a way but for someone who drives on the highway with eco mode for 2-3 years putting 10-15k miles on the high way it causes the 4 cylinders get more w&t when switching back to sport.
I bought a hellcat and I drive eco lmaooo
Salute 🔥 💯 🔥
🤝🤝
My eco mode is called sport
Lol 100%
Why get the car if your gonna drive it like a Toyota 😂
I'm so confused now
Louie, you make good content, won’t knock you there but this is straight BULLSHIT and borderline CLICK BAIT…and you know it.
If there was any truth you’d have a lot more stories and content on YT about 392’s having this issue. Hell, there ain’t even a lot of 5.7’s with this issue. Stop it, you’re better that this.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Its not destroying mine, its destroying the next guys when i trade it in
Real talk……..
Sports mode