"Incentivize Bad Behavior" - San Francisco's INSANE Plan To Sue Stores That Close Due To Theft
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
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The stores that closed should sue the city for its failure to provide basic services including police protection.
The store owners should hire security
@@christiancsq Why pay taxes then ?
@@christiancsq
@@christiancsq I live in SF. They have security already.
@@christiancsq Thanks for your worldly insight, 14 year old.
Meanwhile, Florida is holding criminals accountable.
From what I heard Gavin was trying to make FL look worse than Californica
Its by design they want to make CA inhospitable so people leave and they always bring their bunk ideology with them. Happening in texas and Co. They want to flip the states. @@johnnygavita
@@johnnygavitacrime is not cool. Thats hollywood BS. Fix the culture.
Why is no one talking about potentially imploding a once booming and expensive like San Francisco and New York, where normal businesses leaves and CHINESE Foreign investors comes in and rent / buy the places at a massive discount. While future down the road they’ll fix it when the Investors are already here. The Democrats (Chinese) controlled are deliberately setting up their ‘liberal’ cities for china to come in a buy/control
Kinda sad that we feel like we have to CLAP for THAT .
Mayor of St Louis, Tishaura Jones just announced a new law that's proposed to hold gas stations and convenience stores accountable for all the crime that happens in their parking lot and in their store. Maybe try holding the criminals accountable and putting them in prison.
What else do you expect from the governor of that state?
Join a UNION people
Watch the stations close
So a law in a specific state that targets hood-stations with shitty owners should concern everybody on the internet?
@Jojokicksass2 give power to the employees
This new law is some dystopian level insanity.
Got a story in my feed a few weeks ago about a store owner that marked up the price of everything to $1000.00 and you get discount when paying.
actually a big brain move, since he operates at a "loss" he doesn't have to pay taxes to a government that doesn't do its job.
“The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them.”
Is this yours ? It’s great
Where does the quote come from?
Great analogy
Is that Dr Seuss?
I love this analogy!
California is done.
Are you from California?
@@SamuelClemente7718 nope
@@SamuelClemente7718stay there
YEP .... As San Francisco goes, goes CA... follow the game trail...commonality GOV NEWSOME.. every F*CKED UP politician, has come from San Francisco
@@smithusa321 California is the size of 6 Eastern States! Just for perspective. 👍
There 13 states in the EAST COAST. 3 IN THE WEST
I was there in SF on vacation and from my rental car everything was stolen, it was bizarre. I called the police and they said it happens every 10 seconds.. 😒 very sad to see the city going down
Yes my my friend's ex wife is still there she out a note on her car I guess it's the thing to do ..states cars opened and unlocked nothing in it ...from what I gathered the insurance company arw tired of paying for windows
Its like they want to destroy law abiding taxpayers! 🤯
As soon as the law is passed, every store should submit a paper saying they will close in 6 months
Yeah and I’m sure you will pay their bills
@@user-pq7jj3vs3eleave the state. Go somewhere conservative that won't cooperate with some fucked up marxist run nightmare .
Don't wait for the law to be enacted. Close your business down NOW and get out while you can.
@user-pq7jj3vs3e Are you offering to pay their bills while they are losing money to theft? A proposed ordinance would empower people to sue supermarkets that close without giving the city six months' advance notice. So if the businesses give notice now, they don't have to stay an additional 6 months. Always have the city on notice that they will be closing.
@@user-pq7jj3vs3e How stupid can you be? Close now or close later - Close now save money, closing later costs more.
These stores are going to start avoiding California all together.
No lol California is still one of the most desirable states. Just certain neighborhoods in certain cities.
@@nicholasnoriega1205lol ur delusional. California is done
Your so smart
Hopefully. They all need to pack up and leave. So the citizens have no food to eat. Then let’s see what happens.
@@nicholasnoriega1205So only certain cities have super high taxes?? Only some towns have ridiculous laws??
Okay.
I work at a store that you mentioned and according to policy, we can't stop theft in any way. In fact, we have to be courteous to the thieves
Next time you should give them caps, T-shirts, etc, with store advertisement 😂😂😂😂
Well I hope you are looking for a new Job before the one you work at closes
@protestthisyouloser1093 I appreciate your patriotic concern brother and yes I am. I am north of 50, veteran and no college. However, I have developed dozens of skills and it keeps me employed. It's the best path for someone in my position
U need to gtfo of there bfore somthing happens to you.
@@kennethblachlyjr3040 Good luck to you sir!
My home, my place of birth and family heritage for 2 generations GONE!! 😢😢😢
never give up! San Francisco is full of great people! im in the bay. we have to vote and run these politicians and thugs out of our beautiful state!
I’m really sorry. I can’t imagine! I wonder where the people like you are…. Why aren’t people raising hell
@@chunkafunk81can you not vote left?
@@protestthisyouloser1093 troll
@@protestthisyouloser1093 hahahaha!
give notice and then keep the store empty for the 6 months
You're still paying rent for those 6 months though.
Still will cost you less than being robbed everyday forever @@JoeBlow-fp5ng
Shouldnt have to waste your time and resources with rent, minimal staff and other items for an additional 6 months. Look no one really cares about CVS losing money. But what about a mom and pop shop that has been destroyed, lost everything, losing money, they have to stay open for 6 more months???
@@JoeBlow-fp5ng the rent is probably still cheaper than how much they lose a day in theft plus you will not be paying any wages.
@@JoeBlow-fp5ng if you rent, you have to honor the lease regardless.
All the grocery stores should pack up and leave now.
Isn't that what California wants
It's $950 in total items stolen in one trip. They just visit multiple stores/same stores repeatedly and are treated as misdemeanor thieves. If the city passed this madness, I'd empty the shelves of anything that is too hot/valuable. Secure the rest of the essential items. Cut staff to bare minimum.
It’s a profitable crime ring now.
Lmao at that Chapelle story that had nothing to do with the topic, and his attempt to save it 😂
Where was he going with that story? Geez!!
😂😂 idk what makes Adam think he has to add on these irrelevant stories.. just get straight to hit point Adam!!
I've got second hand embarrassment like I have every time Adam is on.
Adam makes me look smart
Imagine you a high school student who wanna transfer to a better school but your current school threaten to sue you IF You do that
you have school choice now?
In socialist utopia, why would you ever wanna leave. Stay forever please. You will love it or else
Not a good analogy
@professionalpookie It's a fantastic analogy.
@@professionalpookiearmchair critic care to offer us other options?
This is like the St Louis mayor saying he's gonna sue gas-stations for getting robbed all the time.
No, this is like that Dave Chappelle story 😂
St. Louis is a she mayor... Even worse
SHE. St Louis Mayor is a black female. The one subgroup WE CANNOT afford to elect to leadership positions.
Wonder why St. Louis is like that maybe ask ur ppl
@@jenghiskhan69😂
“Services” are not “obligations”.
Getting sued might be cheaper than leaving it open for 6 more months
You still have to find another store to open in your location after the 6 months is up or you can be sued. True story.
This is a failed society.
Deliberately destroyed society
gynocentricism runs amok
A communist society, which is always a fail
Due to parenting
From the ashes [SOMETHING] shall rise...but what?!
This is pretty mild for California, cali actually tried to pass legislation to tax people who moved out of state. The leadership in California are literally insane
I cited this fact the other day. Person did not believe me. Do you remember what they called it? There was a name for this act but I can’t remember.
@@For891California exit tax
Correct. And, they wanted to tax you over the next ten years following you moving out of state.
@@denniswaterman3982imagine this 😂😂😂 dude, no wonder everyone flocks out of that clown state
This should be *totally* illegal to do at the federal level. Once someone moves out of a state, they have no more obligations there.
If that was my Walgreens or cvs , you come in and shoplift . The cameras go off and the doors get locked . “ now you can’t leave” ….
“Now yous can’t leave!”
It would stop immediately.
PBD asking Adam for his take & then rushing him to wrap it up is hilarious 😂
Yesterday I was at CVS and I bought something and then forgot I needed something else and I asked the cashier to hold the stuff I just bought so nobody would think I'm stealing. The manager said, "who cares everyone steals here." WTF?
Only the dumb people pay for stuff. I am one of the dumb ones
I would have then asked " so I can get the item I forgot for free!?" 😮🤔 Seriously, what do they expect if they never prosecute the criminals? They often don't even want to press charges.
Tell her I care.
That’s so sad.
Her employer cares but s/he just can't do anything about it given the evil policies of Marxists.
Ridiculous, city government begs these businesses to come in and then they don’t provide protection now they want to punish business. How can a business stay when it loses money. How about we punish criminals.
It's insane that this is even a discussion
"I left my store, in San Francisco."
🤣
I'm in Northern California.
Last week i watched a man walk out of Safeway grocery store with half a shopping cart without paying!
When i told the employees, their responce was, "typical night", "I dont care, my life isnt worth it when those that run the business dont care"!
Okay, they'll just past their losses to us customers!
What you want the employee to do? Fight back and possible get his ass kicked? Possibly fired because he fought the robber?
The employee could sue afterwards the thief could sue afterwards. The stores know this so it’s a lose lose for everyone including customers.
What you should have done was said “Ok?” Then filled up a whole buggy and walked out.
I wouldn’t pay shit in Cali if no one else is.
Gavin Newsome to Target “Why should I pay you $300 when ppl are just walking out.”
@@marwynthemasterful6369that's still wrong....
@@InTheZone85 100%. But why break your back when everyone else is using a wagon. It’s the govt’ fault. Not yours (unless you continue to vote for the same ppl)
Exactly... now be a good girl and continue paying your ever-increasing taxes like we told you to.
Get ready home owners, you will be doing something similar to your home.
They wont because this is a garbage story with red herrings everywhere.
@@Mageroethlol…. And you’re a russian bot 🤖
There is a grocery store or chain in Japan. it doesn't have any products on the shelves. it has images and prices of the products. You select what you're shopping for by pushing the buttons. When you're done, your bank / credit card is charged and your groceries are delivered within the hour. I see that happening everywhere at some point to 100% stop theft.
Now you are getting to the why this chaos is happening. It is by design so people will accept what the globalists want for the world which is to go digital so control is easier since surveillance and control of our digital money will be easily managed. People will actually accept a cashless society and even martial law when criminals are being protected. But first, create the problem before offering the solution.
And funny thing that your story is about a store in Japan when petty theft is not really a problem and you can accidentally leave your stuff behind and return to find them untouched as a rule. Your story was more about convenience which is part of the digital solution the globalists want us to accept.
They will offer safety and convenience as their guise for control and we will be "happy" even though we won't own anything in the future.
In woke cities, the delivery people then get robbed.
I would quit ordering stuff and let the shelves go empty and then give the government my 6 month notice.
The local business association should file a counter suit against the city for not providing security so they can do business.
The stores need to sue for all the inventory lost due to the lack of protection and prosecution of thefts!
No, the stores should be made to give proper notice for many reasons. 1 of which is that people need groceries to live and have been forced to rely on these stores to survive. Plus many other reasons I won't list now. But on the other side, the State is on to the corruption of these grocery chains. Play stores carry millions of dollars of insurance that literally pays for the stolen goods. Furthermore, these stores will pay $100K for inventory, then turnaround and claim they have lost $100 Million..and when audited, will produce evidence of only $200K worth of shrinkage!!! The point here is that the government there is on to these corrupt grocery stores and how they're illegally overinflating and then keeping astronomical insurance proceeds and then double backing to give fraudulent numbers to the public. These are the real reasons why the state of California is doing this and thank God somebody has the balls to do it
@@a1travel692 Well, there wouldn't be any petty theft in the first place for these so called greedy store chains that can be used as an excuse if criminals are not to steal again and again since in other states, stores can use the same pretext if petty theft is not rampant.
The 7 Eleven I go to has a security guard at the door. Sometimes 2 in San Francisco downtown area.
That's ridiculous
The last month for that store would be hell on earth
And their employees unsafe
Why is no one talking about potentially imploding a once booming and expensive like San Francisco and New York, where normal businesses leaves and CHINESE Foreign investors comes in and rent / buy the places at a massive discount. While future down the road they’ll fix the law when the Investors are already here. The Democrats (Chinese) controlled are deliberately setting up their ‘liberal’ cities for china to come in a buy/control. What this is doing in lowering the value of a city for a foreign power to BUY it
Imagine putting this much leg work into regulating, instead of just doing basic policing.
@@Transbloop Policing is only one part - why arrest criminals when your DA won't prosecute them? Maybe voters shouldn't elect the son of terrorists, who literally promised he would not prosecute crime.
Like pulling troops out of a war zone.
Upside down world.
Democrat utopia
Bizzarro World from Superman is what comes to mind
The Democrat insanity and 50% of people in the country support it. Why.......a decadent and crazy society, victims became criminals out of nowhere
I was in downtown Manhattan and everybody hopped the train. Its outtta control
Tom always on point 👏 👏
Funny.. Adam hardly ever is 😂
If you announced a store closing 6 months early you couldn't retain employees and everything would be stolen including the plumbing in that time frame.
I love how fired up Vinny gets!! Thats the Yonkers in us Vinny!!! ✌🏼
If only Americans felt this way and. Acted
I wonder if the grocery protection act says how many hours the store has to stay open per day?
What is he giving the thieves 6 months notice to go steal more. What kind of thinking is this. No wonder everything is so messed up
Wouldn’t it be a good move for the businesses to start suing the cities to cover their losses?
Businesses realize it's cheaper to have shoplifters than to hire security
@@christiancsqNope. The margins are so thin that you need to close the business.
@@christiancsqwhy should they need security?
The people on your team are thieves. Stop stealing.
Good luck when these businesses close. Say goodbye to your jobs.
Businesses will lost the sue......justice is corrupted, specially serving Democrat's interests
My parents from Montana have relatives that were living in San Francisco they went down there like 25 years ago and when they got back they said they're never going to San Francisco again because it is a mess was a mess that
It’s official….some people have totally given up on self governance.
They can do silly things like limit inventory and drastically shorten store hours. Many will likely leave before the law passes.
Good points
Given the limited options, this isn't a bad idea. When forced to play the game, become absurd to win the game.
Black knight the shit out of the law.
Stores close, property values plummet.
That’s freaking crazy!!!!
ITS NOBODY'S BUSINESS. They want you to give them advance notice for closure but they do not give you notice for ALL THEIR SHADY doings.
They want advance notice so that the community can remove all of the inventory before the store closes for good.
I’m wit you 😊
Corporate America is passing these costs to us that actually pay
I’m still trying to figure out the purpose of that story…… You just had a Sacada moment. PBD is a savage 💀 😂
It’s like that in the Central Valley too. Most things are locked up and you have to page an employee to unlock it for you. Only with this economy, some stores don’t have enough employees to unlock it. I shop online mostly. It’s a huge inconvenience.
"Lots of great ideas come from 1984."
-Liberals, unironically
I joined a UNION
I work in Pittsburg Ca, it’s one of the cities in the country that Target closed stores. All due to crime and theft.
This is happening all over the state.
Even insurance companies are pulling out of California, making home insurance prices increase due to less competition.
I’m surprised the Walmart in Pittsburg is still open.
It's pretty scary, the downtown in SF is 95% closed now: no Union Square, no Westfield mall, no Nordtrom, Macys, FAO Schwartz. Oakland is the same; San Jose is getting there, and so is Los Angeles. This is caused by State policies, not just local idiocy.
Insanity... Time for some big changes in our country folks!
It’s almost midnight….and I’m STILL trying to understand that Chappelle reference 😂
Me too
they should make laws that you can't fire employees for confronting shoplifters.
Blame the store owners for that
Who wants to stop a shoplifter while earning minimum wage?
@@christiancsq i blame management for that.
@@christiancsq who's asking you to stop shoplifters? just 'cause you're a whip don't get in the way of the rest of us men trying to put a stop to it.
regular employees should not be confronting shoplifters, they are not law enforcement and put themselves and others around them in danger trying to confront something they're not trained to do.
That said I am in favor of private security for these stores. Its clear the government is doing nothing.
If this passes... I bet there will be a lot of not so random fires.
Facts smhl
This is putting business owners in a very tight corner
Yep, there are already a lot of random fires in the name of climate change.
what good does chaining the freezer does do ? so u go unlock it and hand them the item then they skate ....
That is sad San Francisco is so bad. The stores should Sue them back for not protecting them. That is the truth. Walmart wallgreens cvs should Sue California...real talk
no one will open another business in SF...and businesses will never re=open again
I really want to see this
Conversation tanks @11:10
Once your city is so screwed you know no new business investment will be coming for the foreseeable future, things like lawfare seem like a reasonable means for keeping the remaining business from leaving 😆
Never heard the term law fare before lol. It so true, and makes sense. Are these ppl out of there mind? What’s the goal?
There always a vacuum. You guys need to stop watching FOX
@@SamuelClemente7718we aren't watching fox or cnn. That's why we are here.
Stop making excuses. Your team is a pile of shit. The people stealing are on your team.
@@coldtruth6354Easy, when the property value collapses and the whole place become ghettos, they’ll buy the land on the cheap them come hard on crime and begin to remodel the city for the wealthy.
@@coldtruth6354 In the age of "91 indictments" you never heard the term lawfair???
I know Atlas Shrugged isn't a very easy read... But it is prophetic as hell. Government creates problem. Government provides "fix" for problem that makes business impossible. Government makes it illegal to close.
Guess who had medicare and social security right before SHE DIED? 👍😂😂
@@SamuelClemente7718 I don't care if she moved to Venezuela and started a commie revolution. She was right when she wrote the book.
@@SamuelClemente7718 Didn't the government require people to pay into these social programs? So if you pay for it especially by force, then you gotta get something out of these programs just like if you pay taxes, then you expect those taxes to be used properly instead of mishandled through graft and corruption.
HOwever, if the government made it a choice, then only those who paid into the system can enjoy the so-called benefits of those programs while those who opted out should not bother the government about social security and medicare.
@@whatevergoesforme5129 nothing worth more rhen your HEALTH!!
@@SamuelClemente7718 What has that got to do with what I said about government forcing people to pay into the system which nullifies what you said about Ayn Rand since those social programs were forced on her.
Oh, we’re already way past insanity
12:22...that rolled off the tongue hey
Maybe they should address the root of the problem instead.
The root of the problem is single-party rule for 60 years.
Ayn Rand wrote about this very exact thing in Atlas Shrugged. I'm surprised that book is never discussed on this show.
They are new to this outlook on beliefs
They have slowly had the wool lifted from their eyes, especially Adam.
As someone who lives in the Bay Area it’s absolutely infuriating to go to a store and have to wait for someone to open something. They are rude and don’t like there job so what we are doing is shopping online or having other shop for us cause it’s frustrating AF
I agree we would like notice
Insanity continues…
Anybody else think they're trying to clear out the city so they can buy up the land cheap and convert it into a "15 minute city" experiment?
I remember reading an article about a guy in California who priced everything in his convenience store at 951 dollars even a candy bar, the trick was that once you went to the counter and paid for it he would charge you the regular price.
There's no bathrooms n san Fransisco and it's Windy and Cold 🥶
If they own the property keep the stores open. Leave one employee and have zero merchandise.
I worked at Target & the same people would come in fill up shopping carts and go out the front door. If we tried to stop them, we would get written up
I live by that walgreens. pretty much all the products for sale require an employee to unlock something or get it for you. I am surprised they lasted this long.
I think the exodus of California by businesses and wealthy individuals is just beginning. Any business/individual capable of leaving will and no one will come in to replace them. The government will continue to do whatever necessary to keep the taxes rolling in so more and more extraordinary punitive taxes/regulations will have to be implemented.
I believe they were trying to implement a penalty (tax) for those leaving. They need to pay an exit tax.
I live in California.
None what both are saying. IS TRUE.
Ask me anything. I live here.
there is no mass exodus of California. all right wing propaganda. propperty still going up.with multiple buyers trust me. i live here
@@davidstasiowski6728You should volunteer to pay their exit tax.
I think California especially these big cities in Cali. It will be a state of uber rich and mega poor, there will be absolutely no middle class. That's just my prediction but it will be interesting to watch bc it's one big social experiment which unfortunately hurts alot of just normal people who want and will work for relatively decent lives
Then....Lawsuits from employees once they're harmed by these thieves.
Here in Nevada theft under $1,200 is a misdemeanor
Liar. Republicans will never allow it
The stores don't get a written notice 6 months before they're robbed ❗🙄
Next they will fine people who don't give 6 months written notice before moving out of California.
Umm they already are trying to do that. A wealth tax if you leave CA.
Plot twist : they already tried.
I remember when we moved from Sacramento to Memphis Tennessee for my husband's job in 2013 the state tried to make us pay for registration for our vehicles in 2018 🤣 my husband called the DMV and they tried to say that we had to tell the State that we left my husband laughed and said get off the crack pipe and we didn't leave Nazi Germany and we didn't have to tell you shit our cars have been registered in the state of Tennessee since 2013 so we don't owe DMV anything!!🤣🤣🤣 They slithered away after that!
Couldn't believe how massive the Fed Ex operation is in Memphis. They must be the largest employer there.
@@travisn346 they went union?
@@SamuelClemente7718 I honestly don't know.
@@travisn346 mm. Interesting. What the minimum wage in Memphis?
Best part is… the next closest grocery store is only ONE MILE AWAY. LOL
I work in S.F. and just when I think things couldn't get any worse, this idiotic city government tops themselves. I hope these stores band together and sue the crap out of the city and each individual city council member, plus Mayor Breed.
What good would moving the theft threshold back to $250 do when they don't even enforce it at $950?
Yeah, and they could just go multiple times a day!!
Any theft of these stores is wrong and an offense!
@@christinemaclean3718 Yes, theft is theft but the degree can be addressed differently since punishment should fit the crime and not be overly unjust, especially when there are also extenuating circumstances, in my opinion, since I don't believe in the one size fits all solution.
Try taking $950 from a bank...
Or even $250!
The BANKS took $10 Trillions from Americans.
Republicans turn a cheek along with corporate democrats
Do you know what happens when they give six months' notice? All of a sudden you have a run on workman's comp claims, I've seen it happen the employees will start turning in bad backs and anything else they can think of.
The idea that a businesses don't want to go out of business really come on😢😮
San Fernando Rd in Glendale is losing its 99 cent store. The street is full of vacant stores.
I recall some story about how when crows leave one of their flock on watch and a predator gets through, they attack the watch before they attack the predator. We should take a page out of that book and take these leaders to task.
Let me tell you that being an employee at any of these stores also has to suck. My first job out of high school was at a shoe store in a small town, they had ridiculous policies when it came to theft. You had to have 100% visual contact with the suspected thief at all times, while also needing to find the shoe box they stole from, while also having to get a manager/supervisor, AND you couldn’t detain them or anything. Well needless to say, we had a lot of theft since the manager/supervisor was ALWAYS in the back office “working on something”. The district manager would come in to go over numbers/performance, and it always fell back on us for not being “more aware & vigilant”. I swore I’d never work another sales/food service job again, it’s the worst.
PBD to Adam : “I’m trying to figure out what was the point of that story.”
Will San Fran be bailing out hese business for 6 mos? I doubt it. Thus law is just paper.
I am so glad I got the hell out of that God forsaken state.
Ya California not for everyone
I’m not a lawyer, but this seems like a slam dunk and great counter suit for the stores, draining California’s already empty coffers.
Yup. Your not a lawyer
@@SamuelClemente7718 you're
What constitutes bad behavior?
Is it what a person can put on display for all to see, or how a person behaves behind closed doors?
Depends on the outcome.
If what happens behind closed doors is a deal with a hitman, then yes that’s bad behavior.
If what happens behind closed doors stays behind the closed doors, then it can’t be considered bad behavior as bad behavior is based on the behavior’s affect on society.
@@antibull4869 The outcome is an effect. It is more then the outcome, since a couple of people hiding their wrongs, may have the power to dictate lives outside their doors, but their actions behind closed doors only affect them, and how they choose to use their resources. It appears there is too many factors for the common person to understand, even the wealthiest can't mustard up a plausible answer. Modern society says to pick and choose to accommodate their interest, but thousands of years prior to that perception. History proves that behavior destroyed your kingdoms and empires.