@@omaewakontorru838 yeah until you meet him and then you'll piss your pants.... It's easy to point out their mistakes while watching, different story when you play ... I bet you're not even in ancient bracket so shut up
you guys are just pure trash, most divine and all immo player can crush in that bracket, but you guys still whine like I AM IMMORTAL SKILL BUT MY TEAMMATE SUCKS.
@@Noob796 what u said is true, but that doesnt mean what he said is wrong There is a very big skill difference between legend players, anyone who played in legend rank can tell that, He didnt say that some legend players can play in immortal or anything
I have a legend smurf for practice and an immortal account, and no the bracket is not unpredictable with a huge skill difference. Sure the academic knowledge may vary between two legend players based on how sincerely they learned dota but you all make the same unforced errors as Dotohleong mentioned, i do funniest things on my legend account and still easily get away with it.
Im legend 5 and i have never seen a carry who would build just a wraith band without regen. Ofc he would crush anybody in this bracket but these guys are even worse than normal.
I made it to legend 5 from legend 1 it's very huge skill different legend 1 are bunch of animals even they held the same medal So datoh need to be more specific
Datohleong is right, I was Divine rank 3 years ago when I stopped playing and gave my account to my nephew. This year I checked and the account was down to Guardian V - Archon 1. I played on unranked for 1 month to get a feel of the game again and played on ranked again. Now the account is banned for 1 year and was reported as smurfing :D
I like this content datoleong, playing while your giving us your thoughts, it gives us more idea to become more better in dota. Make more of this recommend this type of content in dota tutorials. 👍👍👍👍
@@ericnawamusic spirit vessel reduces healing and necro is all about killing things and regening quickly with ghost shroud (it amplifies healing for necro) and since ghost shroud also reduces magic resistance to necro vessel does more damage to him hence it is natural to buy vessel when there is a high regen hero in the enemy team.
Srsly im smurfing in low bracket and surely i dont care what others picked i just pick what I want. And rekting my enemies in the laning pgase via last hit denies and punish.
There is NO way this is legend bracket. Crusader i'd say. Archon at best. Or is the region Australia or something? I've been playing around the legend / ancient for the last year and i have NEVER seen players this bad. Especially the Gyro and the Pudge. Those two have to be crusaders.
im used to watching instructional videos and being kinda bored, but still learning. I learn with your videos and have fun while doing it. Thank you, earned a subscriber.
This type of videos is so informative! btw can u do more of this kind of video in divine bracket to show whats the different between divine players and immortal player in the future?
My 1st calibration is archon 4 (i play dota 1 back then) and all i did is just enjoy,keep playing and observe pro players and taadaa. Im divine 5 player now
This is a much better concept of what makes a good player/bad player. We can see the simple mistakes that differentiate the brackets here very clearly.
Theres no point in picking support as an immortal player in a legend game, why do u need to support a skillless legend player when you can solo the whole game by yourself as a core
@@sph41kraem83 yeah, the video is pretty helpful for CORE players but tbh honest the two of us arenonly ever gonna get there as supports That's why we need that support video
Lmao. Some people just cant theoritcly notice the diffrence in ranks but when its actually immortal in legend game you can see something is wrong there😂👏👏 Nice video you OP brain..
someone might have told you this already but there are weather effects you can turn off in the terrain settings under global. i got them years ago for one of the TI im pretty sure
Hi DTL can u make a video to explain how to win a game that enemy cores are outfarming ur team especially when they are carry or mid players? Im an ancient offlane player and I can understand your concept in this video. However in some games I can win my lane easily with my pt 4th role but our teammates just cant and result in losing the other 2 lanes very hard (sometimes they can feed 5times in 5mins), u just cant successfully gank them easily like what u did in this video. Can u give some techniques or concepts on how to win a game like this? Thank you so much.
I refuse to believe that a single game like this sums up the entire Legend bracket of the EU server. That's mainly because when I was in the Legend bracket two years ago I get my fair share of easy matches like these but also some really difficult matchups when the enemy team knows exactly what they're doing. One time I was playing PA, it was near late game and I was really fed when 3/5 of the enemy team built a fucking Aeon Disk to counter me and they fucking won.
I am very VERY *VERY* fed up with smurfs. They dont let us learn the game. Those all who u call herald and guardian are mostly bcoz of fkin smurfs in low ranks just having fun with us. People who are not able win rank in their tier make smurfs
This is a great topic, educational smurfing should be allowed to a limited extend. Or instead of smurfing do a video coaching your legend player friend. Showing how to climb at the different ranks would be greatly valued. Stuff like in this video where you say hero choice at Legend is not as important as mechanics & mindset. Or like how to climb playing the different roles.
This legend game is so different than my legend games (well i m archon 5) but still there are not players like this in my game.....They are atleast a little bit skilled....and i m also not that bad.
Hey DATOLEONG. I've seen some pros and high mmr players not upgrading but keeping their Magic Stick. And I also feel like 10 non-upgraded magic stick charges seems as equivalent as 10 upgraded magic stick charges. Is it true?
Yeah, idk how ppl on youtube got enemy like kotl 5 that leave carry, offlane wk carry without regen... and i got only meepo brood ta mid wihout counter, if my enemy core lose the lane while im offlaner they will 3 lane , im 3,6k
requesting you to teach us how to control units or illusions efficiently like naga, tb or helm dominator, necro book etc. And also you have mentioned on your previous videos on how to use the information on the map to our advantage, we would like you to elaborate more about that. like always, love your content here as I learned a lot especially the aggro in enemies' tower.
theres already another video on that topic from other channels. not to say datohleong doesnt make good content. but he has his own time limit too yknow
is it just me or that gyro is definitely not a legend lol cuz most of my game legend carrys do accually move around and play really well instead of that afk guardian playz alike xD
@@EverLastingLov prolly... i was once ancient party offlaner... after the patch i got down to archon core... so yeah i know the skills if a player is better than me...
i can go in immortal but i always meet throw gamer or player and sometimes i always meet feeder or a kiddy brain even u try ur best in game its always nonsense if u meet they kind of players
I am a support role but you make a 10 ways how to play meepo and my role was changed into mid lane, now you make a video offlane bh, i think im gonna do this thing too, your videos are helping my trash mmr 😆😆
should i create a new account, to smurf or whatever? (My current account was created years ago, with over 1,000 games played. Due to what seems to be Dota's dice system arranging total amateur players on my team to 'balance' the game, my MMR hasn't been able to climb and remains below 1,000.)
I feel like every game in my bracket, we manage to get an advantage early. Rest of team decides to go high ground immediately with only a 5k net worth advantage because “can’t let antimage get farmed.” Meanwhile, Last couple fights I participated in, I died really early. So me being there contributes nothing, so I shove out a wave. Manage to snipe a kill on antimage who is hitting our tower. Meaning I’m at base while rest of team is at their T3. Despite me not being there, they push anyways, I proceed to get flamed for not being with my team when I literally have to walk the entire map to get to them. Granted, I made some very questionable decisions in that game that ruined my efficiency, like joining those early game fights. I should probably just mute my team so that I don’t get dragged into every fight. But I feel like it ends up being a lose lose situation. Play safe, get reported for afk farming. Play with team, not have any items while their carry is split farming, comfortable knowing my team is on the other side of the map. But no one wants to listen to the guy who lost his lane, let’s go up onto high ground with the dude who got 10 kills into the most dangerous place on the map, and wonder why they suddenly jumped 5 levels after said person dies. Let’s blame the carry who had a hard lane and needs to catch up, and force him to wander around the map with the rest of the team.
"I dont want to pick another squishy hero" Picks bounty offlane
@@datohleonggez what were you thinking?
If that's a high rank game, he would be punish for that pick.
but he certainly has higher rank than the enemy so it doesn't matter here.
Its not squishy with vessel and solarcrest
If i am that gyro, i will punish him for sure
@@omaewakontorru838 yeah until you meet him and then you'll piss your pants.... It's easy to point out their mistakes while watching, different story when you play ... I bet you're not even in ancient bracket so shut up
'and someone trying to bomb my country?' I laughed so hard
As a Serbian, I kind of chuckled at that one
Ikr he is actually funny lol
Raja bomoh got your back man
Was the best part
When Datohleong said
"OMG so this is what items feels like"
I felt that
Legend bracket is mostly unpredictable.skill difference amongst this bracket is huge.
you guys are just pure trash, most divine and all immo player can crush in that bracket, but you guys still whine like I AM IMMORTAL SKILL BUT MY TEAMMATE SUCKS.
@@Noob796 what u said is true, but that doesnt mean what he said is wrong
There is a very big skill difference between legend players, anyone who played in legend rank can tell that,
He didnt say that some legend players can play in immortal or anything
@@salahaly8151 i can really tell that guy above you has a real big EGO problem... no one sa about "my teammate sux"...
@@salahaly8151 Yes bro , your skill difference is Legend 1-5, thats it
I have a legend smurf for practice and an immortal account, and no the bracket is not unpredictable with a huge skill difference. Sure the academic knowledge may vary between two legend players based on how sincerely they learned dota but you all make the same unforced errors as Dotohleong mentioned, i do funniest things on my legend account and still easily get away with it.
Im legend 5 and i have never seen a carry who would build just a wraith band without regen.
Ofc he would crush anybody in this bracket but these guys are even worse than normal.
You have never seen a carry who build wraith band without regen because you do not look at enemy items very often.
I made it to legend 5 from legend 1 it's very huge skill different legend 1 are bunch of animals even they held the same medal
So datoh need to be more specific
Datohleong is right, I was Divine rank 3 years ago when I stopped playing and gave my account to my nephew. This year I checked and the account was down to Guardian V - Archon 1. I played on unranked for 1 month to get a feel of the game again and played on ranked again. Now the account is banned for 1 year and was reported as smurfing :D
what server is that? that looks like guardian bracket in SA
SEA?
South America?
I have a legend smurf account and I'd say Legend rank is too random.
basically the 2 main type of player in legend
1.) Smurfs
2.) Ultra dumb players.
Is that hokusai as your profile picture?
3)Account buyer
4)who think he is god
2k scrubs way better than 3k shits tbh
@@xera201 who tf buys a 3k account tho
I like this content datoleong, playing while your giving us your thoughts, it gives us more idea to become more better in dota. Make more of this recommend this type of content in dota tutorials. 👍👍👍👍
until reported for smurfing... hahaha, SEA server like that.
This is why I absolutely love your content. I LEARNT SO MUCH (especially how you controlled tower aggro so meticulously)
same...and spirit vessel is counter for necro? how does that work? im new btw
@@ericnawamusic spirit vessel reduces healing and necro is all about killing things and regening quickly with ghost shroud (it amplifies healing for necro) and since ghost shroud also reduces magic resistance to necro vessel does more damage to him hence it is natural to buy vessel when there is a high regen hero in the enemy team.
I'm a Legend rank player. And I love fighting against people who claim to be Boosters and or Smurfs. And trust me defeating them feels so good :D
Or when you are legend 4 and you crush your divine 5 mid player so bad that he leaves the lane 😀
Is this legend for sure? That looked pretty crusader-ish for my standards :|
First item wraith band in legend ranked...
And we out here struggling to get to 1k
13:00 dtl rap god
I'm glad this 3 years ago video suggested to me by RUclips.
"I played 1 game" *has a double rampage and at least 6k gold after 20 mins
@@datohleonggez nah I know you wouldn't fake it but like in 1 game jesus
@13:00 "Thank you for staying at the end of the video sjgfsgdfuieyfuaigdgfigfeiuafsdfsdfsd and I'll see you in the next video" damn fast
The title should be " in the mind of a smurf player"
Srsly im smurfing in low bracket and surely i dont care what others picked i just pick what I want. And rekting my enemies in the laning pgase via last hit denies and punish.
that bruh moment on 7:36 made me laugh so hard, i started to cough. my parents thought i have corona, so they kicked me out of the house
Omg I just realized this video was uploaded before corona
There is NO way this is legend bracket. Crusader i'd say. Archon at best. Or is the region Australia or something? I've been playing around the legend / ancient for the last year and i have NEVER seen players this bad. Especially the Gyro and the Pudge. Those two have to be crusaders.
Upload more video bro I really love it, It heals my cancer gaming hahaha
I'm Archon 5 in SEA and found that even Ancient player here don't know how to use skill or build item.
2:32 in my head I was literally screaming *HE HAS NO REGEN BULLY THE SHIT OUT OF THIS KID STEAL HIS LUCH BOX*
im used to watching instructional videos and being kinda bored, but still learning. I learn with your videos and have fun while doing it. Thank you, earned a subscriber.
This type of videos is so informative! btw can u do more of this kind of video in divine bracket to show whats the different between divine players and immortal player in the future?
Divine = pre immortal xD
I am legend. After I watched yor video, I feel really small and shame of myself.🤧 Too much gap of skill to compare with the immortal player.
Git gud ok
My 1st calibration is archon 4 (i play dota 1 back then) and all i did is just enjoy,keep playing and observe pro players and taadaa. Im divine 5 player now
Just play to enjoy and review your game to improve your errors
@@ameameame I calibrated legend and I'm crusader now 😭
@@ameameame you made new account?
This is a much better concept of what makes a good player/bad player. We can see the simple mistakes that differentiate the brackets here very clearly.
Even legend bite on that manta bait.
u should do this more often nice video bro, really helpful :D
can you do another this legend game but you pick support?
Theres no point in picking support as an immortal player in a legend game, why do u need to support a skillless legend player when you can solo the whole game by yourself as a core
i just want to know what are the things to look for as a support.
@@sph41kraem83 yeah, the video is pretty helpful for CORE players but tbh honest the two of us arenonly ever gonna get there as supports
That's why we need that support video
@@sph41kraem83 see escaping the trench by rawdota or cookie smurf guide ...
@@sph41kraem83 You can search for dota alchemy, gameleap in youtube, they teach alot about support
nice video, but why you cast shuriken toss to enemies that are tracked?
that lion always timed his impale so good
1:00 I ll play bunty and laugh lol I love when u say bunty ❤❤❤
Morph shakie is better xddd
@@Awesome-1001 lol
he should play buntut
@@seino8890 xD
this is goddamn useful to me, I'm full supp and I really hate my friends getting AFK and leaving me alone in the lane (can't rotate)
I learned a lot from this
Thanks man! Keep it comin’!
The rain is a weather effect. You can't turn it off iirc
This is actually hilarious you need to do more of this, i'll even let you use my legend account
boost this guy
nice try
1:41 Savage... xD
1:11 love this momment
Lmao. Some people just cant theoritcly notice the diffrence in ranks but when its actually immortal in legend game you can see something is wrong there😂👏👏
Nice video you OP brain..
Now can you explain why you are not an ancient rank with a video?
By the way I love this video and I learn a lot from it.
someone might have told you this already but there are weather effects you can turn off in the terrain settings under global. i got them years ago for one of the TI im pretty sure
sick sick sick loved all the video you made me love playing dota 2
I member when you had got like a hundred subscriber, man what a improvement from you and your english also
13:00 the new rap god was born
"Don't buy vessel on bounty hunter it's bad because it says utility" - random legend magnus
I have a question, why do you not go magic wand?
Hi DTL can u make a video to explain how to win a game that enemy cores are outfarming ur team especially when they are carry or mid players? Im an ancient offlane player and I can understand your concept in this video. However in some games I can win my lane easily with my pt 4th role but our teammates just cant and result in losing the other 2 lanes very hard (sometimes they can feed 5times in 5mins), u just cant successfully gank them easily like what u did in this video. Can u give some techniques or concepts on how to win a game like this? Thank you so much.
I refuse to believe that a single game like this sums up the entire Legend bracket of the EU server. That's mainly because when I was in the Legend bracket two years ago I get my fair share of easy matches like these but also some really difficult matchups when the enemy team knows exactly what they're doing. One time I was playing PA, it was near late game and I was really fed when 3/5 of the enemy team built a fucking Aeon Disk to counter me and they fucking won.
Amazing video man! But how to get out of ancient? And do you stream?
13:07 dude what is that music name pls tell me
I am very VERY *VERY* fed up with smurfs. They dont let us learn the game. Those all who u call herald and guardian are mostly bcoz of fkin smurfs in low ranks just having fun with us. People who are not able win rank in their tier make smurfs
This video really helpfull bro
Please tell me how you cancel the creep agro while hitting gyro ?
Attack command your own creeps and stay out of the smaller aggro range
@@pavel7910 thanks so much pavel
I fucking loved this video man! Thank you for your time and hard work for us ❤
Wish you all the best
This is a great topic, educational smurfing should be allowed to a limited extend. Or instead of smurfing do a video coaching your legend player friend.
Showing how to climb at the different ranks would be greatly valued. Stuff like in this video where you say hero choice at Legend is not as important as mechanics & mindset. Or like how to climb playing the different roles.
This legend game is so different than my legend games (well i m archon 5) but still there are not players like this in my game.....They are atleast a little bit skilled....and i m also not that bad.
awesome, this vid was very insightful. thanks for this
Hey DATOLEONG. I've seen some pros and high mmr players not upgrading but keeping their Magic Stick. And I also feel like 10 non-upgraded magic stick charges seems as equivalent as 10 upgraded magic stick charges. Is it true?
that lion was dang good actually
Yeah, idk how ppl on youtube got enemy like kotl 5 that leave carry, offlane wk carry without regen... and i got only meepo brood ta mid wihout counter, if my enemy core lose the lane while im offlaner they will 3 lane , im 3,6k
Ur so good man
Love this channel
10:31 why doesnt u scare of Necro ultimate?
Really informative video, thanks!
somehow that lion is good as a sup and the other team has a bad one . lion is buying smokes understanding ur ganks and saving u
1:13 I really really feel u bro
haha datoh your video is fun to watch, your sooo smart, you should play in the pro scene team up with miracle 😄
Why do you buy Manta Style, not Linken Sphere?
How much clarity u bought bro this boontyhunter needs gallons of mana
thats bcs all the 3k player are smurfing on archons lmfao
been archon sea player and i feel like playing against 4k everytime
requesting you to teach us how to control units or illusions efficiently like naga, tb or helm dominator, necro book etc. And also you have mentioned on your previous videos on how to use the information on the map to our advantage, we would like you to elaborate more about that. like always, love your content here as I learned a lot especially the aggro in enemies' tower.
theres already another video on that topic from other channels. not to say datohleong doesnt make good content. but he has his own time limit too yknow
Dota's trademark: The Fountain Dive
is it just me or that gyro is definitely not a legend lol cuz most of my game legend carrys do accually move around and play really well instead of that afk guardian playz alike xD
...same thing in my mind...
@@MeloJayBalcuevaJr you've been playing with smurfs that's why.
@@EverLastingLov doesn't take a smurf to know starting with a wraith band + no regen = gg
@@CoachTomHilbig hahaha i know, i'm like WTF i'm an archon and i don't start with that item... maybe gyro was the smurf... lol...
@@EverLastingLov prolly... i was once ancient party offlaner... after the patch i got down to archon core... so yeah i know the skills if a player is better than me...
Its so good to watch this video, i like the way you teach us
HOW TF THAT GYRO A LEGEND?
Plz do more of this video
it's very useful and in the other hand veryyy entertaining to watch
We promise we won't report u 😌
can you do a video about the item build for bloodseeker and spectre
ecspecially spectre tho , cus i really want to play her
I dont really play rank since they added medals but what the hell happened...I thought legend rank is 3~4k but they look like 1k
"is someone trying to bomb my country?' WTF i LOLed so hard at this. xD
i can go in immortal but i always meet throw gamer or player and sometimes i always meet feeder or a kiddy brain even u try ur best in game its always nonsense if u meet they kind of players
can you do more of this vid? i really enjoy this..
Legend bracket is the purgatory of dota. Its a mix of great and bad players. Heck its even harder to get out of legend right now
I am a support role but you make a 10 ways how to play meepo and my role was changed into mid lane, now you make a video offlane bh, i think im gonna do this thing too, your videos are helping my trash mmr 😆😆
Very informative, so entertaining as well Good job sir.
Love your vids bro, more and more when possible pls 😀😀
i like datohleongs voice more than his game :D
Anyone willing to explain how he cancels aggro at around 5:41 before going back in?
Wish I could be coached by you :( I’m losing so many games as offlaner
Thats like guardian gameplay then legend, i think archon or legend in sea servers have better gameplay
This IS a SEA game www.dotabuff.com/matches/5098926443
I played morethank 6k games and I am stuck in divine bracket, maybe a video for what reason what seperates divine from immortal
why dont i have enemies gyro with wraithband
only teammates
should i create a new account, to smurf or whatever?
(My current account was created years ago, with over 1,000 games played. Due to what seems to be Dota's dice system arranging total amateur players on my team to 'balance' the game, my MMR hasn't been able to climb and remains below 1,000.)
I feel like every game in my bracket, we manage to get an advantage early. Rest of team decides to go high ground immediately with only a 5k net worth advantage because “can’t let antimage get farmed.”
Meanwhile, Last couple fights I participated in, I died really early. So me being there contributes nothing, so I shove out a wave.
Manage to snipe a kill on antimage who is hitting our tower. Meaning I’m at base while rest of team is at their T3.
Despite me not being there, they push anyways, I proceed to get flamed for not being with my team when I literally have to walk the entire map to get to them.
Granted, I made some very questionable decisions in that game that ruined my efficiency, like joining those early game fights.
I should probably just mute my team so that I don’t get dragged into every fight. But I feel like it ends up being a lose lose situation.
Play safe, get reported for afk farming.
Play with team, not have any items while their carry is split farming, comfortable knowing my team is on the other side of the map.
But no one wants to listen to the guy who lost his lane, let’s go up onto high ground with the dude who got 10 kills into the most dangerous place on the map, and wonder why they suddenly jumped 5 levels after said person dies. Let’s blame the carry who had a hard lane and needs to catch up, and force him to wander around the map with the rest of the team.
you deserve more sub ... nice content
I’m trying on dark willow pos 4 but winrate is quite low. Can u do a dark willow video?
I saw the stout... Holy shit this is a year old.
Love this stomping 😅
DATOHLEONG mr Datohleong can you make a "Why im not legend hard support"? I'm a support main and would really like to know the support mindset too!
Best. Video. Ever. BSJ, eat it!
Bro i love your all videos plzz put gameplays with commentary videos of midlnes