I misspoke - I didn't remove the magazine spring seal ring out of the 2 round limiter - I removed it out of the 5 round magazine tube. Same thing, though. The mag tube has no 'slot' that the magazine spring seal ring fits into. When the seal ring is inserted into the gun, you will be compressing it just a little, and when it goes into the tube it's going to want to expand, and that tension that is created is what holds the magazine spring seal ring in place.
Thanks for the video Todd! I second the request for the FFT 7-round mag install. Also, the extended carrier install. And...the trigger upgrade. Looking forward to them.
As I can, I will. I’m still getting used to this camera setup and I’m honing my video editing skills. Some of these requests are going to be difficult projects, but I will get to them, for sure
Had no idea these things used an unlined clamshell forend, I would've expected a metal heat shield since the gas system is right under it. Lol, and as they say, you never have trouble with anything until you try to do it on camera.
Looks like the OEM tube needs to be heated inorder to compromise the locktight fit from the factory. Also I think the 2 round extension may be a more affordable option if you want to have the ability to change the capacity from 5-7 in a pinch.
Do you think the spring retaining clip is necessary or would the cap work fine? I ask because the retainer removed allows the 7th round to fit more often w different loads.
Todd great video ,Just installed all you sold me . Titanium 7 round tube , Wolf spring, upgrade trigger set, Tritium night sites, Oversized @action release button ( square one ) and the Shorter stock. Still trying to figure how to mount the six round xtra round r@ck. All great quality and not hard to do if you watch your tutorials.
I have the Benelli M4's extended tube but I cannot fit the 7th round into the tube. I'm using the tube and spring that came with it but I can't get it to fit. I'm using Federal Personal Defense shells.
Hey Todd, for the Benelli specifically - I’m having a hard time understanding the 922R compliance part of things. Am I correct in saying that this mag extension can be in violation of that, but a full mag replacement isn’t? I’ve watched both videos and this option is far more preferable to the more labor-intensive magazine replacement, with the heat gun and all. Fantastic videos, I’m subscribed either way!
We don't serve the clone community and clone guns so I don't even try our parts on clones. Buy with caution as we have a no return policy and oftentimes our parts do not cooperate with clones.
will this work for a stoeger p3000??? i have the same problem of only being able to put 4 in the tube. ive heard they are similar to benelli so would a benelli mag extension work?
I have absolutely no idea. People say it's a clone, so if it truly is, then the answer should be yes. I'm trying to get a Panzer and won't have answers until I do.
@@FreedomFighterTactical www.classicfirearms.com/panzer-arms-m4-semi-automatic-tactical-12-ga-shotgun-3-5rd-inertia-driven-black/ Just ordered one today so I will let you know once parts and the shotgun comes in.
Old video, but great info. I live in MA and we have some very VERY stupid laws. In the configuration shown with the pistol grip stock you would be limited to 5 round magazine tube. If you swapped the stock to the traditional stock you could run up to a 10 round tube or extension setup. Anyways, appreciate the info in this video. Eying a Benelli M4. Currently have a Remington Versa max tactical for a shotgun.
If you get an “American imported” 7 round tube, foregrip and follower. Are those 3 paired with a “stock” recoil tube that had a 3 position now swapped with a 5 position recoil tube in compliance? There’s something to be said about if you get the collapsible stock you need 4 parts. But what if the m1014 already came with a 3 position recoil tube and you put a 5 position in to make it fully collapsible. Would you just need the 3 parts still or 4 parts ? Hopefully wasn’t too confusing. Thanks !
@@FreedomFighterTactical hey ! picked up a foregrip. But the right is a bit warped. The left is perfect 👌🏻. Am I able to just use the left and keep the oem right ? Or do I need both sides to state made in USA
@@AuziFox see the instructions on the website - the warp or bend is in every forearm but it will perform perfectly. See the instructions on the forend page and you’ll see
@@FreedomFighterTactical hey, thanks for the reply. Want to be clear. I am happy with the forearm and every purchase I’ve made through you guys. As per last message. wasn’t able to find anything on the instructions page stating if using one of the left or right forearm parts would be in compliance .
@@AuziFox I would think you would need to use both halves. Have you put them both on the gun as the instructions say? They're solid and they will serve you well.
I just got a m4 and just left the range , I was only able to get 4 shells in the barrel and 1 in the chamber ?? I thought its supposed to be 5+1. any thoughts to this? I was using 2 3/4 00 buck Winchester military grade [army green color]
Yeah me too. I brought the tube extension and I’m only able to load 6 shells, not 7 (5 factor + 2 with extension). $275 just to load one more round 🤦♂️.
Tru other ammo Box may have 2 3/4 written on it, however it maybe longer than other 2 3/4 ammo After fired shotshell most of the time lengths are the same
Yeah, the 5000 to 7000 calls I get about it each year along with all the appreciation from people for helping them understand it means nothing. Nobody cares. Pfft
I live in the District of Columbia which restrict me from having a pistol grip on my gun so what mods can I do to my M4 that would be legal? I would like add the two extension. Love your channel!!
I’m sorry, but I don’t have an answer for you regarding D.C. laws. I’d talk to someone local who knows the ins and outs of the law there. You likely can do what you want to the gun without any issue, except add mag capacity or change the stock, but someone local can advise you on that…
I installed my 2 round tube extension from a different company, lets call them KZ. Well, my factory follower would not pass the threaded portion in their tube, so my extension wouldn't allow me to hold any extra rounds. It turned my Benelli into a 5 and 1/2 round shotgun. Has FFT ever heard of this issue with their tube extensions? Did i do something wrong? I took my follower out and put it into the tube extension and it wouldn't go through it. The follower should be able to pass all the way through the tube extension, correct??
Im no expert on such matters, but Yeah, I would think so! Maybe your extension tube is out of spec! I would definitely call the extension tube manufacturer and get their recommendation on this situation!
You do a masterful job of taking what should be a 4-minutes video and stretching it out to almost 17 minutes chattering away about the most obvious information. It's like you believe your viewers have the intelligence of a 5 year old. Other than that, nice video.
The fact that the shotgun is limited from the start makes me not want to send money to Binelli. Gun companies without respect for moral citizens. Binelli, Beretta, FN, Sig. They all look down on free people.
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I misspoke - I didn't remove the magazine spring seal ring out of the 2 round limiter - I removed it out of the 5 round magazine tube. Same thing, though. The mag tube has no 'slot' that the magazine spring seal ring fits into. When the seal ring is inserted into the gun, you will be compressing it just a little, and when it goes into the tube it's going to want to expand, and that tension that is created is what holds the magazine spring seal ring in place.
Instablaster...
AFAIK, you can't. My stuff isn't sold in Canada and I don't know of any other alternatives at this time.
Lock that bolt back before assembly. Makes it a bit easier to get things back together.
Shotgun 101.
Thank you
Would like to see you put out vids fitting your parts to all the clones hitting the market....
Yes
Panzer
M2 & M4 !!!
MAC m1014 is awesome
I did it..your videos are the best instructional out there. Thx again.
Awesome!!! Happy to have had a hand in helping
Thanks for the video Todd! I second the request for the FFT 7-round mag install. Also, the extended carrier install. And...the trigger upgrade. Looking forward to them.
As I can, I will. I’m still getting used to this camera setup and I’m honing my video editing skills. Some of these requests are going to be difficult projects, but I will get to them, for sure
Much obliged to you, sir. I prolly would have had a lot more difficulty on my M2 without your advice. Godspeed!
I found using the angled snap ring pliers works great as you can keep them across the plug when removing it
Very informative and educational. Thank you
Thank you! Just got my stock m4 today. Can't wait for the extra capacity!
Super helpful video. Thank you
Thank you for the instructions. Couldn’t see myself figuring this out without your help.
Changed mine out had feeding issues with the 7th round .so the 5 round spring definitely needs to be upgraded to the 7 rounder
I learn a lot about extending the barrel.
So this will give u 7 in tube and 1 in chamber and then if I ghost load it should hold 9 shells correct
Yes... with most 2-3/4 inch shells. Some are too long and you'll only get 6 in the tube.
Great! Can you please do a video that replaces the 5-round magazine with the FFT 7-round tube?
Soon
Got my m4 today .... Gonna need one of these ASAP.
You know we have them but they go fast
Hey Todd, how about doing a video on adding a 2 round extension on the Panzer EG240 shotgun.
Appreciate your interest in me doing this, but I don’t have anything, at all, to do with clone shotguns.
Had no idea these things used an unlined clamshell forend, I would've expected a metal heat shield since the gas system is right under it. Lol, and as they say, you never have trouble with anything until you try to do it on camera.
Thanks, your the Man!!
Great video 👍🏻
Im in the works of gaining an m4 and this is definitely simple
Good stuff. Appreciate you posting.
If you don’t have snap ring pliers, what can be used instead ?
Do you know how to extend the Emperor shotgun from a 5 shot to a 7 shot
any difference between getting the +2 extension tube versus getting the full length 7 round tube? just looks? obviously a difference install
for all intents and purposes, they will function the same.
@@FreedomFighterTactical easier to install the +2 extension tube right?
Looks like the OEM tube needs to be heated inorder to compromise the locktight fit from the factory. Also I think the 2 round extension may be a more affordable option if you want to have the ability to change the capacity from 5-7 in a pinch.
I had an issue with the spring snagging inside of the extension.
@jeffreydommer7147 I ended up getting the proper 7 round tube (as the shotgun should come with) and its perfect
Good information
VERY HELPFUL 🌴😎🇺🇸🇨🇱🇮🇱🌴
Why would one go with the Plus two extension instead of just the seven round full size magazine tube?
Thanks for this information was very useful!👍🏼
Thanks for the video!!!
Can we add this extender in california?
Outstanding video! Thank you!
you’re welcome!
Do you think the spring retaining clip is necessary or would the cap work fine? I ask because the retainer removed allows the 7th round to fit more often w different loads.
Thanks for the info
Thank you for the update
Thanks for the info!
Where can I get the spring you mention in the video ?
thanks for the info, preciate it.
Thank you. I need that
Why didn't you put the snap ring limiter in the 2 round tube BEFORE you put the spring back in the gun? Screw it down, and you are finished.
Thanks for the help
You're welcome!
Todd great video ,Just installed all you sold me . Titanium 7 round tube , Wolf spring, upgrade trigger set, Tritium night sites, Oversized @action release button ( square one ) and the Shorter stock. Still trying to figure how to mount the six round xtra round r@ck. All great quality and not hard to do if you watch your tutorials.
Will this work on the M4 clone from Turkey?
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Can’t wait to receive my M4 ordered a few weeks ago and start working on the upgrades soon...I guess probably still months away 😢
I’ll cross my fingers for you
This is awesome do you do any modifications in your shop for clients? I'm in San Diego
sorry, no
Good video 👍
This isn’t allowed in Nj correct?
I have the Benelli M4's extended tube but I cannot fit the 7th round into the tube. I'm using the tube and spring that came with it but I can't get it to fit. I'm using Federal Personal Defense shells.
i have a video on this subject here in the fft video list
Hey Todd, for the Benelli specifically - I’m having a hard time understanding the 922R compliance part of things. Am I correct in saying that this mag extension can be in violation of that, but a full mag replacement isn’t? I’ve watched both videos and this option is far more preferable to the more labor-intensive magazine replacement, with the heat gun and all.
Fantastic videos, I’m subscribed either way!
anytime you add capacity, 922r comes into play. a 7 round tube counts as a 922r part where the extension does not.
9:33 looks at all my tube fed guns that do exactly that. Is that wrong?
Fantastic, thanks
Do this work on the Panzer M4 ???
We don't serve the clone community and clone guns so I don't even try our parts on clones. Buy with caution as we have a no return policy and oftentimes our parts do not cooperate with clones.
Good shit. Thx.
Where can I purchase the two round extension tube
Does this work with the Panzer close?
Don’t know. we don’t test our parts on clones.
I’m curious if there are different size oring pliers?
I don’t understand your question…
The oring pliers you used..does 1 size fit all? Medium size pliers? Small pliers? Thank yiu
There are different size pliers - I can't recall the size on these but they aren't big.
Should you add thread locker to the extension tube threads?
Not at all
@@FreedomFighterTactical awesome thanks
I prefer the one piece extension that is one solid piece instead of two. Looks cleaner and no seams.
Anyone know if this will fit the black aces M4 clone?
Thank you
Will it fit a Copalla T4?
we don’t test our parts on clones so i have absolutely no idea
Does anyone know if I can keep the tube extension on in Louisiana
Great video keep up the good work
Thank you, Derek. For watching, and for the feedback - means a lot to me.
Thanks for being you!
👊🏻
will this work for a stoeger p3000??? i have the same problem of only being able to put 4 in the tube. ive heard they are similar to benelli so would a benelli mag extension work?
I really have no idea…
Will this fit on the Panzer Arms M4 by chance?
I have absolutely no idea. People say it's a clone, so if it truly is, then the answer should be yes. I'm trying to get a Panzer and won't have answers until I do.
@@FreedomFighterTactical
www.classicfirearms.com/panzer-arms-m4-semi-automatic-tactical-12-ga-shotgun-3-5rd-inertia-driven-black/
Just ordered one today so I will let you know once parts and the shotgun comes in.
I had to cut down the Carlson 2 shot extension and weld it back together to fit proper
@@FreedomFighterTacticalit doesn't mine shows a gap and when I close it and hit the release the force pushes the receivers apart
is this legal to do it?
Old video, but great info. I live in MA and we have some very VERY stupid laws. In the configuration shown with the pistol grip stock you would be limited to 5 round magazine tube.
If you swapped the stock to the traditional stock you could run up to a 10 round tube or extension setup.
Anyways, appreciate the info in this video. Eying a Benelli M4. Currently have a Remington Versa max tactical for a shotgun.
great work!
Great info
If you get an “American imported” 7 round tube, foregrip and follower. Are those 3 paired with a “stock” recoil tube that had a 3 position now swapped with a 5 position recoil tube in compliance?
There’s something to be said about if you get the collapsible stock you need 4 parts. But what if the m1014 already came with a 3 position recoil tube and you put a 5 position in to make it fully collapsible. Would you just need the 3 parts still or 4 parts ?
Hopefully wasn’t too confusing. Thanks !
4 parts.
@@FreedomFighterTactical hey ! picked up a foregrip. But the right is a bit warped. The left is perfect 👌🏻. Am I able to just use the left and keep the oem right ? Or do I need both sides to state made in USA
@@AuziFox see the instructions on the website - the warp or bend is in every forearm but it will perform perfectly. See the instructions on the forend page and you’ll see
@@FreedomFighterTactical hey, thanks for the reply. Want to be clear. I am happy with the forearm and every purchase I’ve made through you guys.
As per last message. wasn’t able to find anything on the instructions page stating if using one of the left or right forearm parts would be in compliance .
@@AuziFox I would think you would need to use both halves. Have you put them both on the gun as the instructions say? They're solid and they will serve you well.
Awesome!!
Is this 922r compliant?
No. See the 922r page under the category "Learn" on our website
@@FreedomFighterTactical Thank you !
You’re welcome 👊🏻
You dont sell wolf springs do you ?
$35 vs $9 from Wolff directly……
i just got one.. so it's illegal to change it to a 7 rd tube?
See our 922r page under the LEARN tab to
Find out all about it
Nice video
I just got a m4 and just left the range , I was only able to get 4 shells in the barrel and 1 in the chamber ?? I thought its supposed to be 5+1. any thoughts to this? I was using 2 3/4 00 buck Winchester military grade [army green color]
Yeah me too. I brought the tube extension and I’m only able to load 6 shells, not 7 (5 factor + 2 with extension). $275 just to load one more round 🤦♂️.
Tru other ammo
Box may have 2 3/4 written on it, however it maybe longer than other 2 3/4 ammo
After fired shotshell most of the time lengths are the same
Why not put the seal spring retainer on first, then the spring in the tube, then screw it down. I think it will be a lot simpler.
Will these be restocked?
Yes, of course. Hopefully sooner than later
I did this exactly as instructed and only getting +1 the last shell only goes in 3/4 of the way in. What did i do wrong?
Try different Ammo. Works every time.
@@FreedomFighterTactical omg it worked! Lol
Heck yeah!
That does look like an easy installation.
So a full oem tube is compliant but a extension isn't?
Neither. See my page Learn 922r at our website.
Nobody cares about 922r
Yeah, the 5000 to 7000 calls I get about it each year along with all the appreciation from people for helping them understand it means nothing. Nobody cares. Pfft
Never been fired?
I don't want to hunt I just want to shoot clays and targets here in WV so it would be awesome to have 7 rounds
How can u have an m4 & not shoot it...???
I live in the District of Columbia which restrict me from having a pistol grip on my gun so what mods can I do to my M4 that would be legal? I would like add the two extension. Love your channel!!
I’m sorry, but I don’t have an answer for you regarding D.C. laws. I’d talk to someone local who knows the ins and outs of the law there. You likely can do what you want to the gun without any issue, except add mag capacity or change the stock, but someone local can advise you on that…
Limited shotguns are a mess. It's 2023 already.
Thumbs up
I installed my 2 round tube extension from a different company, lets call them KZ. Well, my factory follower would not pass the threaded portion in their tube, so my extension wouldn't allow me to hold any extra rounds. It turned my Benelli into a 5 and 1/2 round shotgun. Has FFT ever heard of this issue with their tube extensions? Did i do something wrong? I took my follower out and put it into the tube extension and it wouldn't go through it. The follower should be able to pass all the way through the tube extension, correct??
Im no expert on such matters, but Yeah, I would think so! Maybe your extension tube is out of spec! I would definitely call the extension tube manufacturer and get their recommendation on this situation!
👍🏼
You do a masterful job of taking what should be a 4-minutes video and stretching it out to almost 17 minutes chattering away about the most obvious information. It's like you believe your viewers have the intelligence of a 5 year old.
Other than that, nice video.
you’d be shocked at how much that is obvious really isn’t obvious at all to so many.
Boom boom
👍👍
2A🇺🇲
Wow the seal didn't come out of the limiter it came out of the magazine. We all make mistakes, thanks for the video.
I simply misspoke.
The fact that the shotgun is limited from the start makes me not want to send money to Binelli. Gun companies without respect for moral citizens. Binelli, Beretta, FN, Sig. They all look down on free people.
🇬🇪👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🦅🇺🇲🦅
Thank you
Thank you