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Ep 001 | A Decade Long Silent Faith Crisis | Faith Deconstruction Series
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2024
- Join us for a riveting journey as Jamie, my partner, unveils the shocking truth behind Bishop's worthiness interviews and his decade-long silent struggle with a faith crisis within our marriage. In this episode of Faith Unraveled, Jamie shares his profound experiences within the LDS Church, shedding light on the secretive nature of these interviews and their lasting impact on his mission. Delve into Jamie's participation in the Mormon and Gays focus group of Southern California, and brace yourself for a poignant recounting of a mission encounter involving a trans woman.
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“F…ing sex cult!” referring to Joseph Smith. Thank you for this quote! This is exactly how I felt about Joseph Smith from the very beginning of investigating the Mormon Church. I had so many people justifying polygamy and Joseph Smith’s behavior. I felt it was my fault for not having enough faith. I was RIGHT all along.
Great story! I left 15 or so years ago. Great hearing your perspective! Keep sharing!
The last straw for me at BYU was the prospect of one more worthiness interview. I left the university instead of talking to my bishop.
Excellent, all the way around! Production quality, background, sound, interview style, and the open, honest dialogue, are all going to keep me coming back for more. I've enjoyed your TikToks, and I see a great future for both of you on this new platform.
This means so much, thank you!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@Faith.unraveledWhere did this church come from because it's not the church Jesus started the Bible Disproves that lie
@@Faith.unraveledhello
I'm so glad you've started this podcast. Thank you.
I think you guys are Awesome! Thank you for what you do and your support for all of us! We need you! Our stories are So similar! It’s all hard, but so legit!
Thanks for this podcast. It's good to see others were going thru the same issues I was. At the start of my deconstruction, 20 yrs ago, it felt like I was the only one .
I Love This Podcast. Thanks so much for keeping it REAL. Deconstructing sucks. It’s so nice to not feel so alone in this crazy experience. Y’all rock.
RUclips just recommended me this video, and I’m glad it did. I’m a former Christian, but I still relate to a lot of the things you discussed. This was a great episode and I cant wait to check out more!
As is the probable case with many of us who have left, you and I have some similarities. Thank you for sharing your story!
What a great podcast! You guys are amazing! I’ll definitely be back!
This means so much!
I’ve been following you on TikTok for a while now and I’m so excited you started this! Hearing your stories is making me realize I need to fully document mine.
I lost my testimony 13-ish years ago but didn’t leave until 2021…so I have a lot. And somehow I still keep learning more.
So excited to see where this goes!
So many points that hit me right between the eyeballs and deep in my heart...
Thank you for sharing and i am looking forward to the next video.
I hiked a lot after I left the church. I hiked every Sunday instead of attending. That was helpful.
Your podcast is excellent
Hi Friend ❤Thank you so much for your content. You have helped me more than you know through my faith journey. I’ll be looking forward to this every week.
Talking real and honest without guile or guilt is not something acceptable in Mormon culture. That is why, when people leave it is so dramatic because it is very difficult to remain at any level or as a "Nuanced Mormon." As a "NM" you will feel like either not-measuring-up OR damaged goods in the society. I raised my family in the Twin-Oaks Valley Ward, served in that bishopric and in the stake high council, until my dramatic exit of the church in 2014. Almost ten years later I am so happy and see "The World," as my human family, the good and bad parts. My life is so much more balanced, real and joyful. 😊
Wow!!! We’d love to connect with you! Feel free to reach out! We’re both on FB 🙏🏻
@@Faith.unraveledWhere is GOD'S Church now
I appreciate you making more space for many. There is plenty of space for all.
As I watch exMo videos, while the most successful American scam implodes, I find myself grateful that I am not a true church. So much unpaid acting. So many lies. So much history to alter and bury. So much arrogance and pride. Policing normal humans is not possible. Pity the only true church. So tragic. So wasteful. So dysfunctional.
Thank you for sharing this story. I found it very interesting. I'm a new listener, so this may be addressed somewhere that I have missed. My hope is that while Jamie deconstructed his LDS faith, it provides an opportunity to discover a true relationship with Jesus. It sounds like he did a good job researching evidence (or lack there of) of Mormonism, but I can't tell if he similarly looked at the strong evidence of Christianity. Jesus warns of false gospels in Matthew 24: 4-5, so it shouldn't surprise us when there are false gospels being preached in our modern era. I'm praying for your journey.
Jesus Christ! Just let them find their own way! Worry about YOURSELF! That’s all that you are responsible for.
Why are you so upset? If they don't want engagement, they can simply turn comments off. I was respectfully to their opinion. Am I allowed to have one as well?
Alicia, one of your Tik toks is the first one I saw that I knew was "anti" that I didn't skip past and I am so glad I didn't! I had been struggling for years and your Tik Tok was the first time I allowed myself to really hear both sides. So thank you!
Wow!! It’s a crazy moment when “anti” takes a new meaning. Wishing you all the best. So happy to connect 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for bringing this out to the public. We need more podcasters doing this.
I am loving these Podcast. Your TikTok is one of my fav exmo accounts. I look forward to seeing what you release next.
I believe it was on Mormonism Live that I heard the explanation of "Think Celestial" as code talk for only the top leaders going all the way back to Joseph Smith, when talking about how in public, he would justify his plural marriages as "Celestial marriages" and therefor it justified him twisting words when the public would question him.
So Rusty Nelson saying 'think celestial' is really gross because it's a promise to men they will have plural wives, and if their current wife won't share him with others, she will be given unto another man....
I suppose the bishops who interviewed me weren't worthy because obviously their "gift of discernment" never kicked in. 😂
I just finished episode 1 yesterday - while I admittedly don't know a ton about the LDS church, there are some parallels with my background in the evangelical church community. l found ep1 very interesting, well produced, and it certainly is giving us all a powerful look into your and Elisha's lives. I think you're brave for doing it and have made very educated choices in your journey. We've messaged briefly about some kid issues in the past - I'm interested to see how that journey plays out for you too. I look forward to continuing on with the next episodes!
This means so much 🙏🏻
The very intimate questions from bishops are such a violation. Should be as simple as yes or no to the commandment.
I love your story. I was on the angry path too when I found out for the exact reasons. My husband didn’t want to hear it. I would sneakily listen to MSP next to him as well and he couldn’t take it. It was a trigger to him. He stopped going to church, but even now four years later we can’t talk about it. Everything else with us is fine & we still love each other dearly, but we don’t talk religion or politics with each other.
Love this! Very excited you are podcasting!
Great video. Thanks for sharing his story.
Love the halter top! Good on you! Hate that garments were forced upon us & don’t fit under so many cute clothes. Porn shoulders should not be a female shaming thing! Go you!
GREAT STUFF. Appreciate the honesty. Speak truth to power!
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
That bathroom story is awful. I’m so sad to hear that. I’m embarrassed to ever have loved and supported that church. I left the church 8 years ago and share so many experiences with this couple. I didn’t believe it anymore but thought it’s just what I should do. Married and raising kids. But it was so empty and unsatisfying. Church started to feel like a Fox News discussion group after 9/11 and even tho I wanted to believe and attend I just couldn’t bear it anymore. Trump was the final straw. The church isn’t what it says it is and isn’t even what it was when I was little. There were genuinely kind sweet people that accepted everyone. I thought my parents were that kind of people but they have fallen completely into the Trump cult. They are full of fear and anger and only interested in drawing boundaries and thinking about wars and end times. It’s all so opposite of what I thought we were doing.
I feel this so much 🙏🏻
I see that too in my last ward and my new ward in a more rural area. They go Republican/Maga without a thought. Benson said years ago you can't be a good Mormon and a good Democrat. What a terrible thing to say. Look at the parties now. Do you hear the church saying hey, Trump is evil don't vote for him, no just "it might be ok to vote out of your party. "
I can't stand the blindness.
@@BunchoevesAccording to the Bible what happened to GOD'S church
@@BunchoevesThat's my Question
This was a very thoughtful perspective. Thank you!
Thank you for telling my story !!
Loved what you had to say at 43:46-44:42 about Mormon's being encouraged to sacrifice the present for something to come in an afterlife, including tolerating abuse by a spouse. I've seen that exact scenario play out in my family to include the abuser referencing Nelson's "Think Celestial" talk to encourage overlooking the abuse.
It's interesting how many women are asked by bishops if they "enjoyed it" but never men. Maybe it's impossible for men not to enjoy it. 🙂
Very interesting and informative. May God’s choicest blessings be theirs ❤️✝️
Yess I love this and I love both of you guys🩵🩵🩵🩵
Lots of shunning..shaming obedience..pity the charity and love is on the bottom rung...the Saviour has left the building..
Great episode, really enjoyed it. excited to see what else you guys do
LDS outranks KGB
Beautiful!
Really good conversation. Thx!
Great episode!
I really enjoyed listening to your story! I have always been interested in the faith but only from a distance.
Thanks Matt
None of my children went on missions. Only one is currently active in the church. On the subject of polygamy, my Sunday school teacher said Joseph Smith never practiced polygamy!!! That was many decades ago. I’m sure the teacher has passed on and has found out J.S. WAS a polygamist.
While at BYU I gave up an internship in Chicago where I would have been living in a normal apartment building, you know, where a man could live next door--because the honor code office didn’t like it.
Loved this ❤
It often takes some maturing to trust yourself enough to trust your doubts.
When you left you were closer to Jesus, ask to just let his heart be one wit yours, you are free by his loving heart.
Nelson and Holland...RU guys watching this...the truth happening in your Church... thank goodness l didn't join LDS.. came close.
Please tell me the info on the priesthood?
I’m curious what your answer is to patriarchal blessing? Do these men just make it up? Is it delusion?
To think of this just creeps me out.
Honestly, this is adults talking to children about pornographic stuff. Stuff that is so illegal and they get away with it because they are clergy. So sickening
Seria bom que as pessoas que comentasse dissesse onde mora .Eu sou do Brasil
Why he referring to she when he was talking about you right next to you.... Why he didn't just say you.... I don't get it??
You picked the wrong photo for the storyline. This picture in the RUclips caption is classic: for those with two eyes to see, he looks a heckuva lot happier as a full-time missionary representing Jesus Christ and His restored Church than he does as an anti-Latter-day Saint RUclips co-host, ripping apart that same faith...
So many complexities! Jamie sobbed on his way home from his mission. He loved it. It’s amazing how many beautiful components can exist at the same time as such difficult realities. Thanks for taking the time to boost my content. Wishing you well.
Also, you might want to make a little correction, we’re not anti-Latter Day Saints. We’re anti-corporation of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. Very different thing as we love the people immensely.
How old are the kids
I'm disabled 😆 I'm already damaged goods.
When did you change from husband to partner... I'm pretty sure you used to call him husband!?
Trans going into the girls bathroom when they’re a biological male presents a problem that many women and their mothers and fathers would have a problem with.
I deconstructed like you, but this issue is at a whole other level
Creepy for sure..what a Weird organization
All these apostate whiners are going to face the judge day !!!!
Is not accepting a persons religious beliefs Religiphobia?
I’m not familiar with that term! But I know the word phobia refers to an irrational fear, which could reasonably be catalyzed by an early childhood traumatic event. Makes sense. But then again, fears caused by high that kind of trauma probably wouldn’t be categorized as a phobia. I’m thinking more complex trauma?
It should be. Organized religion is a pariah. Just believe in the tree star mustard seed creator.
@@marquitaarmstrong399I thought I was an atheist but I’m still mystified by this universe. I’m open to some deep creator god, even if it doesn’t actually exist, but because I want some direction to look in and some object of my hope and gratitude. But the Mormon Heavenly Father doesn’t exist. I have no confidence in the Bible or any other holy book. It’s so obvious how they are all man made. I enjoy going to this Korean Buddhist monastery and just chanting and meditating and listening to the discussion about how to live. It’s just human wisdom. Love and kindness and patience and acceptance. No father god necessary
@@Faith.unraveled What trauma causes a fear of sexual preference?
@@deanunterreiner6588 well, this is not my expertise, but I’m sure a lot of mental health professionals would say that the harm of bigoted and dogmatic religious indoctrination could cause someone a fear of being gay or a fear of gay people. It’s one of the major harms of religion in my mind.