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They want to push us to admit that Muslims worship the same god 😅 and seem to be changing to the idea that there are many ways back to God/Heaven like the Pope has stated. Sure makes you wonder, what next? 😄

You are wrong for me on everything except I think I would be bitter and mad about being left out of a kid's wedding, but I left before kids. I did pay thousands in tithing and I was familiar with all the conference talks you reference and I am still not mad or bitter. For me personally, I learned about the issues with Mormon history early, but in a very serious deliberative history degree program at BYU. One thing I got out of that as well as a program in psychology taught me to regard the leadership as subjects of social and psychological pressures too, just like everyone else. I don't really have higher expectations for them than for anyone else and try to maintain a sense of empathy toward most of them (as well as people who are bitter and angry). I would say that I also balance the positives against the negatives. I gained a tremendous amount of maturity on my mission. My time at BYU was the happiest time of my life and there are things I have been exposed to since that would have preferred not to be.

I think God is certainly not and never has been. Great video

There is nowhere in the Bible that God commanded multiple wives, He just allowed it! First account was Lamech a descendent of Cain, Then others. Abraham and Hagar, and that didn't work out very well did it!

This change makes me so, SO unbelievably mad. I'm out of the church, have been for over a decade now, but I left originally because of a doctrinal deconstruction. I've only just recently started researching and realizing... just how messed up the institution is too. It's been a lot to process. But this change? THIS change makes me so angry. My parents are still faithful members. My Mom has been wearing garments religiously ever since they converted in the 1970's. Her garments always not only irritated her, but caused her physical pain. Ever since I was born, I've had similar sensitivity issues with clothing (thank god, I decided I was out before I had to wear garments.) Finally, as a teenager, I was diagnosed with a very, very rare genetic condition.We then discovered, I inherited it from her; she has the same condition. This disease not only mutates the nervous system, making us extra sensitive to sensation and touch, but repeated irritation/pressure on the soft tissues can cause painful lipomas to grow. They HURT, like having rocks growing within your flesh, often pinching nerves and limiting blood flow in the process. My Mom has rings of these painful tumors around her thighs. Around her waist. All the places where garments have dug into her skin for 50 years of faithful Mormonism. NOW all of a sudden God says she could have been wearing a slip this whole time?! On the one hand, yeah, I'm glad it changed so at least the next generation won't be burdened quite so badly. But on the other, the sheer hypocrisy and righteous indignation over the damage it has wrought all these years just makes me want to rage at all the bigoted old misogynist white men making these decisions, without once acknowledging where their mistakes, dishonesty, etc have caused significant harm.

I don't worry about small details

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One more opportunity for this man to show he is a liar

I know a Mormon lady who I care for and love. I don’t know how much of a Mormon she is, how much she is aware or practicing but I can tell they she has a desire and love for Jesus. I don’t want her to end up in Hell.

I’m assigned outer darkness because I wasn’t worthy enough on earth

Anything less than complete acknowledgement that the Church is not true is useless and outrageous

I always struggled with most of the doctrine (how women, gays, blacks, & nonbelievers were treated, and the teachings in the PoGP D&C, & BoM). I distinctly recall the moment when i asked myself the magical question, “why would someone not or stop believing in the Mormon (only true) church”? The universe presented me with amazing insights, people, and I went down a rabbit hole that I could not come out of. 😮

The garment is a sacred reminder of promises we've made to follow Christ. Garment styles are not Church doctrine, nor are policies. I know the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a true prophet--and that the apostles are prophets--because of the witness of the Holy Ghost.

PREDICTION: Elohim is going to allow widows to get sealed a 2nd time and not require cancellation, aka “temple divorce.” This will be painful for me because of the $hit I went through dating Mormon men after my 1st husband died.

"It's not the things you wear, or the way you do your hair, it's you, I like!" HI neighbor! I'll tell you one thing, God loves to use symbols in his teaching. Having the garment "placed on you" comes after being purified. It is a new "skin", you are a new person, born again. Next comes entering into the presence of the Lord. And all of this before you die. It was never about wearing something 24/7 that made you special, it's you turning your heart 24/7 to God. The garment is the condition you are in. Somewhere in history it became mandatory to wear all the time but I think it was a modality to teach part of the steps of coming back to God's presence. Someone got carried away with it and decided to make it worn all the time. I think God is really ticked off about people who think doing lots of ceremonies and wearing special apparel makes them holier without ever actually becoming holier.

Here is a great video that highlights a more balance and truthful perspective not just anti-Mormon propaganda from someone having a mid-life crisis and can’t seem to move on in life and engage in their new faith. Anti-Mormon is not a religion it’s a woke cult! ruclips.net/video/Wvfqjx7DCss/видео.htmlsi=s4UooLh8mSPwwZy3

Bull crap!

Your theory is that faithful LDS are not critical thinkers?

Yeah it never made any sense to me either. Like Jesus would be in heaven trying to keeping families apart. Wtf

little by little these false religions are false churches are starting to look more and more like the world 😈

I got out at 17 and it was scary and fkg hard. I still had all that trauma. I chose the wrong cateer bcuz I didn’t know who I was or believe in myself. And i married way too young, bcuz i didnt have any support. I had to go no/low contact with my parents. I am 46 and still healing trauma.

I don’t think you are crazy. I have also seen that wealthy members seem to get to do whatever they want.

What's your problem? You 2 years old?? Who cares, move on with life. Quit whining.

Matt 23 describes them perfectly.

They need to make women’s tops with padded bra so you don’t have to wear both!

All the “super” changes tells me that these points of [constant] change were always doctrine of men! Too harsh?

Man, kudos to the mental gymnastics it takes to walk by this one as a faithful member and not even react. I mean, it is all about the doctrine, right? and garments are not doctrine, right? But....in order to get to the special doctrine in the temple...you have to wear these garments....that are not doctrine and change....so you can't really divorce this topic from the doctrine of the temple, but you will try. We are taught the temple is ancient and eternal and everlasting; pure, untouched doctrine...yet...it changes? All the time? And is it really based off of ancient stuff and how do you know? What is the evidence for it? Or how about good faith evidence?

When are Mormans going to realize their leaders aren't prophets and aren't getting revelation from God?

No Mo PORN Shoulders?? Mormon God changed his mind AGAIN??!

Brother- of- prodigal- son syndrom.

God is telling his Prophet what is needed in this global church. There are needs that are different around the world, climates. If you are not a member or inactive you are bringing the negative into all that is righteous and encouraging others to feel the same.

You need to grow up. You and your followers have the mentality and maturity of petulant children. Kind of laughable.

I can tell you that I’ve only seen one guy at the gym locker room wearing garments. Not like I’m looking because I’m not gay but just I’m very observant of my surroundings so I pay attention to everything that goes on around me. Only 1 in two years showering at the gym.

Dam that was quick I literally just say the headline on my phone this morning. When are they going to to allow bikini style garments?🤣

Dam that was quick I literally just saw the headline on my phone this morning. When are they going to to allow bikini style garments?🤣

I am glad they are making changes, but I think it's ridiculous to attribute them to God. The old men who run the church are always decades behind the times and by the time they make changes, the rest of the world has long since moved on. It is pretty obvious that they are making it up as they go along, but what they are making up is still way behind the times.

I don't feel gaslit about this, it isn't going to change my attire, it would be so much more comfortable though. My sleeves aren't short by any means, but I am sensitive to the warmth of the summer season. Even before taking out my endowments I wore tank tops under my shirts.

It's annoying. I finally got them to stop showing up at my house, but I still get a birthday card from the relief society. It triggers me and makes me sad/mad.

Garments are the number one reason people are leaving the church. It is not because of Joseph Smith marrying already married women or his Fanny Alger moment. It is also not because of all the money laundering red flags.

Ya its all control!

So "porn shoulders" are ok now?

The LDS church has a long and established history of making changes to both doctrine, and policy. Nothing new.

Men and women were so much abused and finger-pointed or worse (as you mentioned by a husband to his wife) because of showing shoulders, wearing sleeveless t-shirts, etc. Now we have a new revelation that all was wrong and the proper garment is the one now sleeveless, skirts, etc... Soon we´ll see swimmer suits, speedos, bikini, etc....😅

Honestly, I fail to see how removing approximately 1” from the sleeve is going to help in hot, humid climates. It’s still an extra layer of synthetic fabric! As an ex-mo now it doesn’t affect me, but I do think the church is just doing the bare minimum to try and appease members. Kind of like when they started allowing women to be witnesses at baptisms, young women to be greeters and hand out programs, telling women they do have “priesthood power” through wearing the garment and attending the temple, etc.

Yep, they just keep moving the goalpost. Gotta plug that hemorrhage!

As an active member of the church, I agree, the church is evolving to focus solely on following Jesus Christ’s teachings, which have nothing to do with many church traditions and dogmas. I refuse to wear a neck tie, the vast majority of the time, as I’m not a missionary or GA, and ties are stupid and pointless. God lives on another habitable planet, many light years from earth, who gave man simple direction, and leaves us on our own. God has no interest in micro-management and doesn’t live in our hearts, he can’t, he has a physical body, just like us.

"I just feel gaslit" aka, you're a loser

What a bunch of🐂 💩! Did they have to change it for their SLOMW members?! Suuuure looks like it!

Getting away from our hygiene is a step in the right direction. Religion is so weird!

This gives a more balanced opinion with real facts not just misinformation by angry anti and exmos. ruclips.net/video/Wvfqjx7DCss/видео.htmlsi=yWjLSu9huPme9xQD