I believe the right wing hated Elon at first. They hated the idea of electric cars taking the place of their V8's et al What did Elon do to appeal to these people? How come those complaining about his vehicles now adore the man? It doesn't make sense.
I will literally never get over Chapelle poor-shaming his own fanbase for spending money to come see him but not ENOUGH money, all because they didn't like his rich bff.
Money has truly ruined his brain he left the Chapelle show because he didn't want to be laughed AT and sold out but I guess at some point he changed his mind just imagine showing that clip to the block party era chapelle
I was actually a bit shocked by that clip. Such a terrible attitude towards his fans, fans he gained by opening minds and expressing himself while encouraging others to not follow the status quo. And now he's a boot-licker for a corporate overlord asshole.
one time I took an absurd amount of mushrooms and hallucinated that I joined forces with the entire american working class to spirt bomb elon musk. I have never felt that powerful since
It’s honestly tragic that “””great man””” Elon musk is doing the most pedestrian thing a parent can do in response to being cut off by their kids. Blaming literally everyone else.
Want to take this moment to point out that while mainstream journalists have had their accounts reinstated (NYT, WaPo), the Left Wing organizers who were banned in the same time period (seemingly on the explicit instructions from Andy Ngo, according to a public Twitter exchange between him and Musk where Musk asks him to "point out antifa and I will ban them" [paraphrasing]) have NOT been reinstated. Some have gone so far to call this a deliberate feint and distraction tactic -- I don't think I really buy that, but it does clearly point the direction the platform is headed. I mention it here because the only outlet I've seen reporting it so far has been The Intercept, and I really think more people ought to know about it and would care if they did know
Yes real left wing voices have always been silenced in this country because it is a threat to capitalist power. They used to need assassinations (mlk, Fred Hampton) but its easier now to drown that out with super right wing capitalists at CCN pretending they're progressive
Well, this is in the context of Musk talking about how he was buying Twitter because the already openly conservative-slanted tendency of selective policy enforcement wasn't conservative-slanted enough, so I can't say it's a surprise.
I can't say I'm surprised. It was only a couple years ago RUclips did something similar - took down larger left wing channels and reinstated them, while smaller channels without enough community to cause a big stir were left deleted. Though with twitter it's probably worse since it's actual journalists n stuff
well occasionally you actually get such peoples like in the gracchi brothers or caesar... well you know how they died. also jesus can be accounted as a good great man person preeching being good to other without expecting something in return... and the same story as with the gracchi brothers and caesar.
He looks in the mirror and says to himself, "I'm so hard working, no one works as hard as me, so it's fine if I tweet for maybe 8 or 10 hours of the day. Can't wait to have slaves on Mars."
@@firetarrasque4667 I do kind of want to hear him play guitar though. Vulfpeck's Jack Stratton jas said on multiple occasions "It's hard to remember the best drum solo you've ever seen, but you'll never forget the worst:" I think Elon could really give us a solo we'd never forget. Plus, what's a bigger rich white guy midlife crisis cliché than starting a shitty band? I can see him slapping something together in absolutely no time whatsoever, paying out the ass to be the opening act at a concert where he heard Grimes was going to be in the audience, and absolutely butchering Heart's "Alone" or Barenaked Ladies' "One Week" while the boos drown everything out.
15:32 Musk believing he'd mistakenly split the vote by having four options in his original poll, only to switch to a two-party system for the second poll and *still* losing is simply hilarious.
Side note about PayPal (Elon's first big business venture): I'm pretty sure it was only as successful as it was due to its partnership with eBay. Way back before Amazon exploded, eBay was *the* place to shop online, and PayPal was the most commonly accepted form of payment there, due to its integration with the site. And let's not forget that the wealth he had prior to PayPal was inherited from his family's emerald mine.
Even that first venture (second actually) was lucky. He invested in a start up that ended up merging with PayPal. He had nothing to do with it before that. First venture he doesn't talk that much about. Possibly because he was then illegally in the US (student visa despite having dropped out).
@Rohan Orton They only bought X because they wanted to use the name, and then didn't use it because they realized users thought it sounded like a porn site
I just don’t see Musk as a dune character. All the people on the top in Dune are actually damn competent at running their little fiefs. Even Baron Harkonnen was a quite smart individual
@@oculttheexegaming2509 Rabban was a capable ruthless war lord, physically fit, well versed with the military equipment at his disposal. He even was one of the few, who was genuinly concerned about Fremen populating the south.
"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible." Frank Herbert
i think the most bizarre thing about this whole saga really has been like, how genuinely inscrutable the site-wide policy and moderation decisions have become. when he banned the journalists for covering the LAPD saying "hey uhhh, we haven't received a police report?? please if you're from his team reach out to us?? we're the police and we take child kidnapping very seriously??" i seriously started thinking "oh my god he fabricated it. didn't he." and i'm not even conspiracy minded on these things! it was just such an inscrutable decision that i was thinking like "okay, if i was elon musk. and i was a rational actor. i wouldn't do these bannings so publicly unless i was trying to conceal something??" but then I had to remind myself that he's not a rational actor. his decisions are inscrutable because there's literally no thought process, and now he's publicly just. completely lost it. absolutely mind-boggling that in less than 2 months time, we fully broke the world's richest man.
@@ShrigmaFemale You can also tell from this just how little he's had to do with the day-to-day operations of SpaceX and Tesla. If those companies were ran by him assuming what we know about him from how he runs Twitter every SpaceX launch would make the Challenger diaster look like a party popper by comparison and Nikola, which I remind you never produced a single vehicle that could move under its own power, would be the more legit auto manufacturer than Tesla. Elon is the world's richest and most famous CORPORATE MASCOT: he's the guy who plays Colonel Sanders or Ronald McDonald at PR events and product launches.
I have to imagine that when Musk watched Parasite - he thought it was a cautionary tale from the perspective of the good but overly trusting Park family about the dirty poors who want to con them so they can eat their food and sit on their furniture. 😂
I mean Obama apparently really liked Parasite so. I think rich powerful people can appreciate media that criticizes their class, or even the very institution of hierarchical class structures, and then see it more as an individual morality tale. "That rich family was mean, I'm not mean, so it's not about me."
A right wing elon fan told me yesterday that he had removed all CP from the website, I pointed out that he actually halfed the team who remove this type of content and actually it is more common on the platform now. The person then claimed that all the people who worked on it before were leftists who love CP even though they were employed to remove it. Then even though I said there should be more people removing CP from the website, the right winger claimed I love CP and then ran away... This is the mind of a right winger in this day and age.
Because people don't actually know about Nikola Tesla. About how Tesla invented the electric motor only for Edison to pass off the idea as his own. About how Tesla tore up his own royalties contract to save Westinghouse from bankruptcy, even though it eventually left him poor. Sad story, the complete opposite of Elon Musk.
That's a thorough insult to Edison. Say what you will about his business practices, Edison liked physics. He was actually involved in his businesses' inventions and had a genuine passion for the scientific method. He was ruthless, but he was also a great innovator. Musk is just a garbage person, a worse businessman and an even worse innovator.
@@oldboi_gg 1-NO ONE who likes even the basics of physics thought the frigging Hyperloop would EVER work. Much less anyone familiarized with the concept of a bloody VACUUM CHAMBER. Which makes me believe Elon's knowledge of Space X's regular operations is close to zilch. 2-DEFENDING MOTHERLOVING EDISON IS A FAR LEFT TALKING POINT?! WHAT UNIVERSE DO YOU COME FROM?! Maybe its you who need to get a real personality. Techbros went out of fashion after half your idols wound up in jail for being massive scammers, like Musk is btw.
@@tjenadonn6158 "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when [someone I have no empathy for] falls in an open sewer and dies." - Mel Brooks (paraphrased slightly)
His fans aren't the sharpest though.. I know someone who thinks he will end up like Musk because he follows his advice, works all the hours he can, ignores friends, coworkers, family, to the point he has none anymore but if you hit him with numbers (they don't need to add up.. Just be big) and promise a profit, he would buy a unicorn farm from you and blame "the woke" when people laughed at him.
Elon x Chapelle was interesting, bc it shows what audience Chapelle actually has and how far low Chapelle has moved from it. He's expecting his audience who think Republicans are racist to praise an ln icon for republicans. Chapelle is conservative and hopefully his audience learns it. They were okay when Chapelle was being transphobic bc of the narrative that LGBT people are white, but otherwise Chapelle might have to recognize that he's appealing to conservative white people the way Kanye is.
Yeah, I remember Dave's explanation of leaving Chappelle Show. "One day I realized they were laughing AT me and not WITH me." Then to hear him crack jokes on the LBGTQ+ community so that people will "LAUGH AT THEM" because they aren't laughing with them. The LBGTQ+ community IS NOT LAUGHING.
As far as I'm concerned those books don't exist. They're like the sequels to David Cronenberg's "The Fly" and "Scanners" which Dave had nothing to do with. I'm not an auteur theory die hard like I was when I was a hardcore Kubrick fanboy in my teens, but if the original creator isn't involved in any capacity it doesn't count. "The Fly" ended when the Brundlefly died. "Scanners" ended when Daryll Revok died. The Dune Saga ended when Frank Herbert died. That's all she wrote.
4:00 ah, that scene in the Simpsons, reminds me how far astray the writers went with the characters... Lisa, at least in the first 10 seasons, would have been a critic of Elon Musk and never call him an inventor. There are some other pop culture celebrities appearing on the show in the past 10 to 20 years where Lisa ended up going along with some shallow celebrity.
The problem with Elon Musk is that he misled people into thinking he was a nerd... and is now trying to cosplay a geek... when in reality he's only ever been a dork.
I truly don’t know how he thought all this stuff would go down, but I’m at least loving his reputation and money spontaneously combusting at the same time
It's the one where Doom Guy becomes the devil in the end. Also, it skips over the mid-game and is inexplicably over. Also, there's a lot of setup, but it's never given time to grow so it just ends. But you can ride worms, so that's that.
Imagine giving a secret order of blood witches thousands of years of planning and networking to create the illusion that they have superpowers- but also they have actual superpowers.
@@DrZaius3141 In the sequels the Doom Guys struggles with being actual Satan so leaves. Then his Doom Baby becomes protagonist and then Mega Satan so there will be no more Satans. I don’t want to think about what the Honored Matres are in this scenario.
Elon was enough of an Iain Banks fanboy that some of the SpaceX boats got named after Culture ships, except if you read any Culture book or Banks' essay "A Few Notes on the Culture" you will note that Banks was not a fan of the kind of thing Elon Musk represents. (Also "Woke Mind Virus" absolutely sounds like something Banks would have a Culture ship would name itself as a bit)
Hardly any decent speculative fiction authors are right wing: Gene Roddenberry and the properties derived from and inspired by his original vision have turned multiple generations into stargazing utopian communists, H. G. Wells was a full on socialist who wrote "The War of the Worlds" as a critique of British imperialism, Mary Shelley was a proto-feminist with a flagrantly pansexual brother, Ursula K. Le Guin was an anarcho-socialist who wrote about nonbinary gender identities all the way back in the 1960s in books of The Hainish Cycle and who's Earthsea books were plagiarized by Joey Rowling for all of the parts of Harry Potter that actually hold up, the list goes on. Practically the only right wing sci fi properties of any note are Robert Heinlein's "Starship Troopers," which is mainly remembered for Paul Verhoeven's adaptation which completely subverts the story and themes into a satire of what it was meant to be promoting (check out Knowing Better's video on the topic) and Atlas Shrugged, which is known for being the book right wingers pretend to have read when they don't pretend to have read the Bible.
To quote a really popular tweet, "Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale." "[Elon Musk]: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus"
@@tjenadonn6158 I think it's simply more that science fiction inherently is a really attractive genre for the politically-minded, providing a way to make arguments either for or against different something through making a utopia or distopia based around whatever pet policy you want to theme your story around while presenting your political diatribe as "just pulp fiction". There's absolutely right-wing sci-fi, from Heinlein's infamously fascist Starship Troopers to basically everything Ayn Rand ever did. Then there's people like Orson Scott Card, who upset a lot of people who read his books as a kid by going completely anti-LGBT...
@@tjenadonn6158 As long ago as the 60s it was a running joke among SF authors that the few right-leaning writers who weren't complete hacks (mostly Heinlein) still preferred to hang out with the lefties because even *they* could see that the right was a cesspool of unimaginative hackery. Also: Musk is a "fan" of Iain M Banks the same way that the manospherians who idolize Tyler Durden are "fans" of Fight Club and Dan Brown is a "fan" of art history.
There's a really good Eugene Debs quote that I really like that ties into the whole "great individual leading us down the golden path" point: "I would not lead you into the promised land if I could, because if I could lead you in, someone else would lead you out.” It's perfect. Also a good summation of why anarchists are against centralizing power and vertical power structures.
To be fair, centralized _organization_ is necessary for any and all improvement at this point. But maybe not led by the children and grandchildren of innovators.
I don’t believe anarchy is a system that could work. That it relies to much on people’s internal desire to do good *and* that everybody has a good understanding of what good is. But man, I get the appeal.
He's not really that smart. It's a myth that he lives in offices and stays up all night being a "idea man". He tweets every 20 minutes. You really think he's thinking all the time of how to solve rocket problems and creating new inventions? Come on...
One way of putting it. The more common comparison is Tony Stark: Musk believes that he is a genius businessman-engineer who must accept the great burden of saving mankind. He cultivates that as a public image. The only real question is how much he buys in to his own propaganda. Personally I think he really does believe it: When he decides to re-instate some conspiracy-theory-spreading hatemonger like the Bee on Twitter, he genuinely seems to believe that he is doing a noble thing in protecting civilisation from the existential threat of The Woke.
It’s weird to me that when I struggle it’s because I’m not working hard enough, but when someone is born into wealth and uses that wealth to become even more wealthy they get applauded as a genius. Like damn I bet I could be real successful too if I had a couple million dollars to play around with.
I have no idea what this means but I feel compelled to thumbs up anyway. There is some primal truth in these randomly assembled words that speak to me.
The bit where you talk about how your channel is more focused on understanding the beliefs people have and why they have them, as opposed to "combating misinformation" put into words the reason I like your channel so much! Thank you!
I’m a young woman, but my father, who’s getting on in years has a good point here. If you think about what being “woke” is for more than five minutes, it’s just being empathetic and being anti-woke is just another way of saying you’re a heartless ghoul.
Don't worry; they're working on the digital singularity right now. All humanity merged into a single consciousness. No way to escape. Humans have longed for a magic sky daddy for thousands of years and they're finally going to get it. I hope I'm safely dead by then, with no way to digitally revive me.
Elon just has to be the shitty knockoff of everything related to science fiction. SpaceX is the shitty knockoff of NASA, the Hyperloop is the shitty knockoff of those transporter pipes from Futurama, and he himself is the shitty version of Tony Stark you bought off Wish when you were blackout drunk.
I think Elon musk should have to follow workplace regulations created decades ago To safeguard employees, and he should receive penalty’s for not. - woke mindvirus
I used to be a fan of Musk. The way my opinion changed was slowly with more and more stupid shit I couldn't defend. Don't give up on informing brainwashed people. You're making an impact that's not immediately apparent. It just takes time
Its crazy how people want fast food workers fired on the spot for not smiling but will not be outraged at the CEO of multiple companies retweeting superhitler1488
It's just a power trip. These people think they are better than a 'burger flipper', despite often being unemployed themselves, so can push them around and cause them trouble, for not treating them with the respect they think $0.99 deserves but they look up to the rich because they think the rich must think of them, the same way they see a burger flipper, like Elon Musk does.
Fun correction, the Golden Path wasn't an inevitability. The way precognition in Dune works isn't so deterministic. A precog can see various possibilities and influence events through their actions to make certain outcomes more likely. Spoilers below the "Golden Path" of Leto II was to run an awful authoritarian empire for so long and so thoroughly that after his death humanity would be traumatized into never accepting living gods or emperors again. This was far from inevitable but with his precognition he determined it was the only way to break the endless cycle of empire, and amassed the power to make it a reality.
technically the Golden Path wasn't the Path humanity would go down, but the path Paul and Leto foresaw as the only path that led to the survival of the human race
Exactly, that's what I remember too. Leto II had to work to force humanity down his Golden Path and he didn't love what he had to do to make it happen, or what it did to humanity. It's just that he valued survival of people he'd never meet higher than the feelings of people he interacted with every day of his life.
@@Albinojackrusseland at the end of the day is he even human? Like truly if the human species “survived” for 5 million years but we had to evolve into underground troll people I would say yeah nah pass
@@tlaloqq if it was a population level change then sure. But this is one individual. From a philosophical perspective you can argue if he's a human and/or a person, but biologically he's just a malformed human.
@@Albinojackrussel The point of it is actually that Great Man theory or rather more generally the human tendency to want a messianic figure or charismatic leader to solve our problems for us is a bad thing. I didn't fully get into it, because I felt it would be a distraction. The Golden Path was basically meant to be a final proof against authoritarianism and messianic figures. Leto didn't become the Worm Emeror to lead Humanity down a glorious path, but to lead them down a path so horrible humanity would never trust a proclaimed messiah ever again. And the reason why Paul foresaw it but didn't/couldn't actually follow the golden path is a combination of factors, one being that it's a truly horrible thing to contemplate being given that much power and knowing with certainty that you will abuse it and that the best path forward is to abuse it to the maximum so no one else will be given that power. Additionally Paul is a Bad Guy, ultimately he fails because he is not motivated by the survival and flourishing of humanity, but by his personal grievances. He only cares about House Atreides and the Fremen. tldr; Dune is a longwinded critique of Great Man history, not an endorsement of it
I've read the first four books numerous times and I IMPLORE you to do a re-read if you're at all inclined. There are so many details, you'll almost certainly get something different out of it than the first time.
When you said to watch _Everything, Everywhere, All At Once_ it took me a second to realize you weren't being literal and meant the movie. Good movie, by the way. And a very sus prop ends up being exactly what you think it looks like.
I don’t know what’s worse as a Dune fan- the idea that Elon is quoting from the abomination that is the the extended universe and has actually read “The Machine Crusade” or that he’s quoting it whilst having no understanding of the source material.
In everything, power lies with those who control finance, not with those who know the matter upon which the money is to be spent. Thus the holders of power are, in general, ignorant and malevolent, and the less they exercise their power the better. - Bertrand Russell, Sceptical Essays
I'm just glad I didn't end up getting enraptured by Musk when he was making the rounds in 2017/2018 or so. I chuckled at his antics like the mecha-suit and the whole flamethrower thing but I never looked into him beyond that, so I didn't develope this unhealthy para-social and borderline cult-like relationship with him.
I did follow him on Twitter during his flamethrower phase. I think cowbelly meme compilations introduced me to that. During that period i'd see a little bit of him, and then he posted some terrible right-wing shit and I was genuinely flabbergasted and followed him immediately. I even held onto hope during that whole cave delving shit to save those poor kids! I was like 'ohh, a billionaire is finally doing something to help someone!' but if course, elon calls the guy who saves them a p*dophile and that's what made me hate the guy. What a terrible human being, I swear.
Same here. I remember thinking I liked the guy. But he was a billionaire posting stupid memes and backing it up with the money he had. Obviously a publicity stunt, but I respected the angle he took with it. Like he understood what appealed to normal humans. But I knew nothing about him besides “Does spaceX, Makes shit cars (But they’re just prototypes, i’m just glad proper research is being done), participates in twitter bullshit, makes meme companies that kinda work somehow. Then it turned out: - He treats his workers at spaceX pretty bad, and has absolutely no background in engineering. - The tesla cars were in fact not prototypes. And his promises look less likely by the day… holy shit, its a scam - His twitter memes are now… political? Uh oh - His meme companies have temporary success at best SpaceX especially is interesting. Because they are still doing amazing things. But they’re doing them *despite* elon, not because of him. His strategies for companies goes as follows: - start a company - Make it run at a massive loss for years - Push away all the competition because you’re willing to run at a stupid loss just to get that monopoly - The competition offers to buy your company just so their own business can survive. - Take the money, and repeat.
@@chrystalmaniac Elon tweeted "Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll." And 57% of the 17 million votes said yes.
If we’re talking about great theory and the “woke mind virus” just look at Martin Luther King jr: he is man who we put up as the role reason segregation ended, but we ignore the women who organized the protests, or the people with cars that played a massive role driving people around during the bus bans. King did a lot yes, but he was standing on the shoulders of years of talks and group action.
@@hasanmuttaqin464 Rosa Parks, who actually planned and organized several bus sit-outs, is probably the most famous one. Another one is Dorothy Height, who helped organize the Washington March for jobs and freedom. There's also Ella Baker, who set up grass root activism in the South.
My neighbors recently posted pro-Elon propaganda on FB (i.e. he was boy genius who came from nothing to become the wealthiest man in the world and therefore he is a role model for their children). I shouldn't have to tell you that they are also a pro-trump family who have children that have served in the military. I shouldn't also have to tell you that they are very working class. They've fulfilled every requirement of the "American dream" (served the country, have a job, own a house and have some kids), yet have told me are still struggling to make ends meet. This is reality for MANY Americans, yet they extoll the virtues of a billionaire. I don't think they're idiots, rather, they don't know what they don't know. They never had the opportunity, through education or otherwise, to really expand their horizons outside of their social circle who all think the same things. The house they are in belonged to one of their parents and I think it was their grandparents before that? What's interesting is that for all their pro-America, individualistic thinking - this post indicates they will happily bend the knee to a powerful autocrat as long as they share similar beliefs. Like Jack said, this is terrifying. Also like Jack, I try to lead by demonstrating compassion and empathy rather than explanations as to why their thinking is wrong. I hope, in some small way, I can make them see that not all of us godless, gay, communists are the boogeyman the status quo makes us out to be.
You know, Elon Musk and I may agree on one thing, which is that trans people are among the leading drivers of social change today. Of course, as someone who has profited off the status quo, he's vehemently opposed to any changes to it. Actually, we may agree on one other thing, which is that billionaires should not exist, and he's been doing everything in his power to set his fortune on fire.
In terms of acadmic history, I believe it is important to say that "Great Man Theory" is not as much of a theory in itself but rather a term through which conventional historiography has been critiqued - and I would argue fairly so - because it simplifies hugely complex interactions between cultures and societies down to the decisions and actions of leaders, too often to the exclusion of all else. This kind of simplification allows the French Revolution and its fight for survival and influence in Europe to be told as "the story of Napoleon" or the American War of Independence as "the story of George Washington". This is handy for teaching children the rough outline of a series of complicated events within the space of schoolclass, but if most people only get to subscribe to such historiography, everyone will be left with a society based on a poor understanding of its past. The "Great Man Theory" is in itself a term of derision used to critique what is all too often the history taught to us as standard, and I think this distinction is very meaningful for getting the whole picture. I do not want to single out this channel specifically; many wonderful channels are doing great stuff despite the misleading framing of "Great Man Theory". Good video overall - thank you for making it... and merry Christmas everyone!
Loving the new content! The way you present your ideas in these vids is always so funny and effective imo. Hope the new release schedule has been kind on u personally as well :)
In control of what? Lets be real he is the toddler king who needs his regents to actually govern for him lest the any project he actually supervises goes to shit see cyber truck
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle in control of most of the world's wealth, and by extension, most of the world's well being. I say this fully aware that the world is currently on fire and under water at the same time.
elon became a thing in my circle about the year 2014. that's when I learned about him. one person was telling me about him and I replied "ehhh, he might do those things but he sound like a thomas edison"... and the more I've heard about musk the more it became clear to me that he is worse than edison. but people said that I am a hater and "where are your billions".
I'm disappointed you didn't mention the time he tried to fire a worker for supposedly being lazy when it was actually a pizza delivery guy waiting for his tip.
This was a really well written video, I'm pretty stupid and you pressed on the right points and made some really good connections between the weird deity status and how it happens. Big fan of your new video style
Musk's fans excusing and absolving him of everything reminds me of PewDiePie's fans back when that was a hot issue. "How can you say he's racist? He apologizes in between every racist thing he does!"
Fuck Pewdiepie. I never really cared for him but when he did that thing where he has those guys who clearly didn’t know English write “kill all Jews” on a banner as a “joke” I knew that he was trash, and the lengths that his fans went to defend that just goes to show the kind of fan base he harbors.
I got shamed for not being impressed about Elon Musk Person: you don't like him because he's rich. You don't like rich people Me: Nah, I'm just not super impressed about him after reading more details about how he inherited his wealth, and the documented racism that took place in his whole company. Person: you're judgemental Me: 🤷🏿♀️
So I think you may have misunderstood the golden path. The golden path isn't the inevitability of history, but the one path that results in humanity surviving. This is the Crux of the conflict between Paul and Leto. Both searched for this path and saw the horror inherent in it. They both saw that without the diaspora and anti-precog abilities, humanity is vulnerable to the rise of the machines which they thought were gone (particularly as the machines advanced where humanity did not thanks to the Butlerian Jihad). Paul essentially, both out of his own despair and horror, decides not to take humanity down the golden path. In doing so, he has essentially doomed Leto into the path. Leto resents Paul for this, and Paul ultimately sacrifices what remains of his sister in "atonement" for this burden. The only reason Leto is willing to take the path is because he was already inhuman prior to his transformation. Unlike a Kwizatz Haderach (probably spelt wrong), he is technically an abomination (he is possessed by ALL of his ancestors)... Though iirc that's less apartment in children of dune.
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I want to listen to more of the throat singing you use in transistions for this video, but you don't credit them anywhere.
I believe the right wing hated Elon at first. They hated the idea of electric cars taking the place of their V8's et al
What did Elon do to appeal to these people? How come those complaining about his vehicles now adore the man? It doesn't make sense.
I hope no one pays you
I will literally never get over Chapelle poor-shaming his own fanbase for spending money to come see him but not ENOUGH money, all because they didn't like his rich bff.
He fell off hard after his show. That or he was always an ass and I just never knew
Money has truly ruined his brain he left the Chapelle show because he didn't want to be laughed AT and sold out but I guess at some point he changed his mind just imagine showing that clip to the block party era chapelle
I was actually a bit shocked by that clip. Such a terrible attitude towards his fans, fans he gained by opening minds and expressing himself while encouraging others to not follow the status quo. And now he's a boot-licker for a corporate overlord asshole.
The cheapest seat was allegedly $150 too haha
Corrupted by money. Happens all the time. Bible talks all about it
one time I took an absurd amount of mushrooms and hallucinated that I joined forces with the entire american working class to spirt bomb elon musk. I have never felt that powerful since
you are the chosen one
That sounds like a good time
horrific neck tie
Take my energy, comrade
No I definitely remember that happening. Good job man
It’s honestly tragic that “””great man””” Elon musk is doing the most pedestrian thing a parent can do in response to being cut off by their kids. Blaming literally everyone else.
He's full-blown Republican now. Hypocritical, incompetent, and firing thousands during a Democratic administration.
People went wild about Elons robot barely being able to walk on it's own. People were impressed
Meanwhile Boston Dynamics robots casually do backflips
Want to take this moment to point out that while mainstream journalists have had their accounts reinstated (NYT, WaPo), the Left Wing organizers who were banned in the same time period (seemingly on the explicit instructions from Andy Ngo, according to a public Twitter exchange between him and Musk where Musk asks him to "point out antifa and I will ban them" [paraphrasing]) have NOT been reinstated. Some have gone so far to call this a deliberate feint and distraction tactic -- I don't think I really buy that, but it does clearly point the direction the platform is headed.
I mention it here because the only outlet I've seen reporting it so far has been The Intercept, and I really think more people ought to know about it and would care if they did know
Yes real left wing voices have always been silenced in this country because it is a threat to capitalist power. They used to need assassinations (mlk, Fred Hampton) but its easier now to drown that out with super right wing capitalists at CCN pretending they're progressive
Well, this is in the context of Musk talking about how he was buying Twitter because the already openly conservative-slanted tendency of selective policy enforcement wasn't conservative-slanted enough, so I can't say it's a surprise.
@@M_M_ODonnell not a surprise, but definitely one more example of his and society's obvious bias that I think is important to point out
Hold on... let me get that list of all the leftist outlets banned from Twitter... after this vid... if I remember.
I can't say I'm surprised. It was only a couple years ago RUclips did something similar - took down larger left wing channels and reinstated them, while smaller channels without enough community to cause a big stir were left deleted. Though with twitter it's probably worse since it's actual journalists n stuff
Can this please be a lesson in how stupid great man theory is.
Unfortunately no, it cannot. It would be pretty sick tho
have you seen that shitty superhero-sona Trump made? grifters love coopting mythology, especially modern mythology
Mia Mulder has a great video about Great Man theory and Elon Musk, with quite a few insightful Dune references as well, I recommend watching it.
well occasionally you actually get such peoples like in the gracchi brothers or caesar... well you know how they died. also jesus can be accounted as a good great man person preeching being good to other without expecting something in return... and the same story as with the gracchi brothers and caesar.
I mean... 'great' was always a bit value-neutral in that context.
As a fully infected Woke Mind Virus patient, this vid is the first time I’ve seen the “Listen Up Liberal! My Wife Left Me” image lol
The bitter divorced dad to radicalized right winger pipeline is real.
Lol!
The Divorce court to 1/6 insurrectionist pipeline is real
they left, radically 😎
Still mystified as to how Musk wound up with Grimes of all people
Goddamn that Simpsons clip did 200 points of cringe damage.
And it was Lisa too 😩
But if Lisa said it, it must be true! She's the HEART! 😟
They character-assassinated my girl Lisa there.
@@madeniquevanwyk ikr the fact it was lisa just... breaks my heart 😩
Idont remember but didnt they like at the end figure out hes full of shit?
This man, looks in the mirror and says to himself, "another great day to ignore my 17 kids and go stoke my own ego"
Making love to his ego, Elon sucked up into his mind.
I was going to say, "you meant 'stroke,'" but 'stoke' works well.
He looks in the mirror and says to himself, "I'm so hard working, no one works as hard as me, so it's fine if I tweet for maybe 8 or 10 hours of the day. Can't wait to have slaves on Mars."
@@tjenadonn6158 I feel like the comparison with Stardust is giving him way too much credit.
After all, people *liked* Ziggy.
@@firetarrasque4667 I do kind of want to hear him play guitar though. Vulfpeck's Jack Stratton jas said on multiple occasions "It's hard to remember the best drum solo you've ever seen, but you'll never forget the worst:" I think Elon could really give us a solo we'd never forget. Plus, what's a bigger rich white guy midlife crisis cliché than starting a shitty band? I can see him slapping something together in absolutely no time whatsoever, paying out the ass to be the opening act at a concert where he heard Grimes was going to be in the audience, and absolutely butchering Heart's "Alone" or Barenaked Ladies' "One Week" while the boos drown everything out.
15:32 Musk believing he'd mistakenly split the vote by having four options in his original poll, only to switch to a two-party system for the second poll and *still* losing is simply hilarious.
Side note about PayPal (Elon's first big business venture): I'm pretty sure it was only as successful as it was due to its partnership with eBay. Way back before Amazon exploded, eBay was *the* place to shop online, and PayPal was the most commonly accepted form of payment there, due to its integration with the site.
And let's not forget that the wealth he had prior to PayPal was inherited from his family's emerald mine.
Even that first venture (second actually) was lucky. He invested in a start up that ended up merging with PayPal. He had nothing to do with it before that.
First venture he doesn't talk that much about. Possibly because he was then illegally in the US (student visa despite having dropped out).
@Rohan Orton and let’s not forget that zip2 was so good that compaq went bankrupt after buying it 😂
@Rohan Orton They only bought X because they wanted to use the name, and then didn't use it because they realized users thought it sounded like a porn site
@Rohan Orton the dude just never got over x-files getting canceled
@Rohan Orton I'd be surprised if Elon could still solve anything but the most basic algebraic "find x" equation
I just don’t see Musk as a dune character. All the people on the top in Dune are actually damn competent at running their little fiefs. Even Baron Harkonnen was a quite smart individual
He is an example of the Pharoah's Disease
He reminds me a bit of Raban though.
@@oculttheexegaming2509 Joe Rogan is the Rabban to Elon's shitty Piter
@@wongar1886 True that.
@@oculttheexegaming2509
Rabban was a capable ruthless war lord, physically fit, well versed with the military equipment at his disposal. He even was one of the few, who was genuinly concerned about Fremen populating the south.
"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible."
Frank Herbert
That is a *much* better quote than the one people keep passing around. That's exactly how it works.
I love a different way of saying it too, absolute power dosent corrupt it just reveals what was always there
The fact he made a poll and lost despite the ridiculous amount of bots he likley used, then used ANOTHER ONE and STILL lost
Didn't he then go on to dismiss the results of both polls, accusing "trolls" of using bots?
i think the most bizarre thing about this whole saga really has been like, how genuinely inscrutable the site-wide policy and moderation decisions have become.
when he banned the journalists for covering the LAPD saying "hey uhhh, we haven't received a police report?? please if you're from his team reach out to us?? we're the police and we take child kidnapping very seriously??"
i seriously started thinking "oh my god he fabricated it. didn't he." and i'm not even conspiracy minded on these things!
it was just such an inscrutable decision that i was thinking like "okay, if i was elon musk. and i was a rational actor. i wouldn't do these bannings so publicly unless i was trying to conceal something??"
but then I had to remind myself that he's not a rational actor. his decisions are inscrutable because there's literally no thought process, and now he's publicly just. completely lost it.
absolutely mind-boggling that in less than 2 months time, we fully broke the world's richest man.
I mean it was right after he made up fights in the chapelle audience and ridiculous booing%, so it would be in character
Apparently no amount of money can buy you a thicker skin.
He was already broken.
Never worked a real job in his life and it shows.
@@ShrigmaFemale You can also tell from this just how little he's had to do with the day-to-day operations of SpaceX and Tesla. If those companies were ran by him assuming what we know about him from how he runs Twitter every SpaceX launch would make the Challenger diaster look like a party popper by comparison and Nikola, which I remind you never produced a single vehicle that could move under its own power, would be the more legit auto manufacturer than Tesla. Elon is the world's richest and most famous CORPORATE MASCOT: he's the guy who plays Colonel Sanders or Ronald McDonald at PR events and product launches.
@@tjenadonn6158 but sandtrouts can give you a really thick wormskin! /onwards with the dune references
I have to imagine that when Musk watched Parasite - he thought it was a cautionary tale from the perspective of the good but overly trusting Park family about the dirty poors who want to con them so they can eat their food and sit on their furniture. 😂
I mean Obama apparently really liked Parasite so. I think rich powerful people can appreciate media that criticizes their class, or even the very institution of hierarchical class structures, and then see it more as an individual morality tale. "That rich family was mean, I'm not mean, so it's not about me."
A right wing elon fan told me yesterday that he had removed all CP from the website, I pointed out that he actually halfed the team who remove this type of content and actually it is more common on the platform now. The person then claimed that all the people who worked on it before were leftists who love CP even though they were employed to remove it. Then even though I said there should be more people removing CP from the website, the right winger claimed I love CP and then ran away... This is the mind of a right winger in this day and age.
I'm sorry I imagined this exchange happening between strangers on the sidewalk and I giggled.
This sounds impossible and 100% plausible. Some people, once they get an idea in their head, try to bend heaven and earth to make it remain true.
I can’t believe you _doxxed_ all of the people who were on that plane that flew over
best comment 👍
Hahaha
I saw this comment the moment that happened in the video. Very funny.
The man isn't Tesla; He's Edison. I don't understand how people don't realize this.
Because people don't actually know about Nikola Tesla.
About how Tesla invented the electric motor only for Edison to pass off the idea as his own.
About how Tesla tore up his own royalties contract to save Westinghouse from bankruptcy, even though it eventually left him poor.
Sad story, the complete opposite of Elon Musk.
He's not even at Edison's level.
That's a thorough insult to Edison. Say what you will about his business practices, Edison liked physics. He was actually involved in his businesses' inventions and had a genuine passion for the scientific method. He was ruthless, but he was also a great innovator. Musk is just a garbage person, a worse businessman and an even worse innovator.
@@thespanishinquisition4078 Musk likes physics too. You are regurgitating far left talking points. Perhaps consider developing your own personality.
@@oldboi_gg 1-NO ONE who likes even the basics of physics thought the frigging Hyperloop would EVER work. Much less anyone familiarized with the concept of a bloody VACUUM CHAMBER. Which makes me believe Elon's knowledge of Space X's regular operations is close to zilch.
2-DEFENDING MOTHERLOVING EDISON IS A FAR LEFT TALKING POINT?! WHAT UNIVERSE DO YOU COME FROM?! Maybe its you who need to get a real personality. Techbros went out of fashion after half your idols wound up in jail for being massive scammers, like Musk is btw.
Musk is truly proof that pathos is one of the cornerstones of comedy
Comedy equals tragedy plus deserving it.
@@tjenadonn6158 "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when [someone I have no empathy for] falls in an open sewer and dies." - Mel Brooks (paraphrased slightly)
You can have all the pathos you wan to, but no way you make the "let that sink in" joke in 2022. It was already old on 9gag in 2013
I will never get over the fact that he accidentally obligated himself to paying $44B for a meme and his bootlickers still think he’s like a 4D genius
This isn't even the first time he's wound up losing money because of a meme
His fans aren't the sharpest though..
I know someone who thinks he will end up like Musk because he follows his advice, works all the hours he can, ignores friends, coworkers, family, to the point he has none anymore but if you hit him with numbers (they don't need to add up.. Just be big) and promise a profit, he would buy a unicorn farm from you and blame "the woke" when people laughed at him.
"And then he turns himself into a worm. Funniest shit I've ever written."
-Frank Herbert
To be fair to Herbert and Leto II, their entire premise was *"Hero worship bad.* _Let me show you._ Let me _hurt_ you."
@@JoshSweetvaletrust me, it will be hilarious.
Elon x Chapelle was interesting, bc it shows what audience Chapelle actually has and how far low Chapelle has moved from it. He's expecting his audience who think Republicans are racist to praise an ln icon for republicans.
Chapelle is conservative and hopefully his audience learns it. They were okay when Chapelle was being transphobic bc of the narrative that LGBT people are white, but otherwise Chapelle might have to recognize that he's appealing to conservative white people the way Kanye is.
He's a comedian who gives a fuck what his politics are.
@@Zachhatesyoutube a majority of his jokes require some political literacy.
Chappelle is *liberal* but has no patience for political correctness. Not sure how the fk you think he's conservative. Far from it.
@@Zachhatesyoutubelol his jokes are full of it how can you ignore it?
Yeah, I remember Dave's explanation of leaving Chappelle Show.
"One day I realized they were laughing AT me and not WITH me."
Then to hear him crack jokes on the LBGTQ+ community so that people will "LAUGH AT THEM" because they aren't laughing with them. The LBGTQ+ community IS NOT LAUGHING.
Of all the Dune books Elongated Muskrat could quote, he had to choose one written by Brian Herbert.
Those books were the WORST.
This was my first thought as well, Elon can’t tell the difference between quality fiction and fake knockoffs
If he had the read the other ones he might learn a bit about ego cults.
As far as I'm concerned those books don't exist. They're like the sequels to David Cronenberg's "The Fly" and "Scanners" which Dave had nothing to do with. I'm not an auteur theory die hard like I was when I was a hardcore Kubrick fanboy in my teens, but if the original creator isn't involved in any capacity it doesn't count.
"The Fly" ended when the Brundlefly died. "Scanners" ended when Daryll Revok died. The Dune Saga ended when Frank Herbert died. That's all she wrote.
That was my first thought too.
Worm King in the book was much cooler than the Twitter adaptation
We were living in the Netflix adaptation all along.
@@RevolutionaryLoser 😞
My tweets are not my own.
Monao! Monao! This Duncan is being bad Monao!
“Fetch me another!”
4:00 ah, that scene in the Simpsons, reminds me how far astray the writers went with the characters... Lisa, at least in the first 10 seasons, would have been a critic of Elon Musk and never call him an inventor. There are some other pop culture celebrities appearing on the show in the past 10 to 20 years where Lisa ended up going along with some shallow celebrity.
The problem with Elon Musk is that he misled people into thinking he was a nerd... and is now trying to cosplay a geek... when in reality he's only ever been a dork.
He’s just an asshole. End of story
I truly don’t know how he thought all this stuff would go down, but I’m at least loving his reputation and money spontaneously combusting at the same time
17:08 the captions say "Frank Herbert's Doom" and I need that game now
It's the one where Doom Guy becomes the devil in the end. Also, it skips over the mid-game and is inexplicably over. Also, there's a lot of setup, but it's never given time to grow so it just ends. But you can ride worms, so that's that.
Imagine giving a secret order of blood witches thousands of years of planning and networking to create the illusion that they have superpowers- but also they have actual superpowers.
I'd also settle for Id Software's Dune.
@@DrZaius3141 In the sequels the Doom Guys struggles with being actual Satan so leaves. Then his Doom Baby becomes protagonist and then Mega Satan so there will be no more Satans. I don’t want to think about what the Honored Matres are in this scenario.
Elon was enough of an Iain Banks fanboy that some of the SpaceX boats got named after Culture ships, except if you read any Culture book or Banks' essay "A Few Notes on the Culture" you will note that Banks was not a fan of the kind of thing Elon Musk represents. (Also "Woke Mind Virus" absolutely sounds like something Banks would have a Culture ship would name itself as a bit)
Hardly any decent speculative fiction authors are right wing: Gene Roddenberry and the properties derived from and inspired by his original vision have turned multiple generations into stargazing utopian communists, H. G. Wells was a full on socialist who wrote "The War of the Worlds" as a critique of British imperialism, Mary Shelley was a proto-feminist with a flagrantly pansexual brother, Ursula K. Le Guin was an anarcho-socialist who wrote about nonbinary gender identities all the way back in the 1960s in books of The Hainish Cycle and who's Earthsea books were plagiarized by Joey Rowling for all of the parts of Harry Potter that actually hold up, the list goes on. Practically the only right wing sci fi properties of any note are Robert Heinlein's "Starship Troopers," which is mainly remembered for Paul Verhoeven's adaptation which completely subverts the story and themes into a satire of what it was meant to be promoting (check out Knowing Better's video on the topic) and Atlas Shrugged, which is known for being the book right wingers pretend to have read when they don't pretend to have read the Bible.
To quote a really popular tweet,
"Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale."
"[Elon Musk]: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus"
The Culture *IS* fully automated luxury post scarcity space communism. Musk is... Jodie Foster in 'Elysium'.
@@tjenadonn6158 I think it's simply more that science fiction inherently is a really attractive genre for the politically-minded, providing a way to make arguments either for or against different something through making a utopia or distopia based around whatever pet policy you want to theme your story around while presenting your political diatribe as "just pulp fiction". There's absolutely right-wing sci-fi, from Heinlein's infamously fascist Starship Troopers to basically everything Ayn Rand ever did. Then there's people like Orson Scott Card, who upset a lot of people who read his books as a kid by going completely anti-LGBT...
@@tjenadonn6158 As long ago as the 60s it was a running joke among SF authors that the few right-leaning writers who weren't complete hacks (mostly Heinlein) still preferred to hang out with the lefties because even *they* could see that the right was a cesspool of unimaginative hackery.
Also: Musk is a "fan" of Iain M Banks the same way that the manospherians who idolize Tyler Durden are "fans" of Fight Club and Dan Brown is a "fan" of art history.
There's a really good Eugene Debs quote that I really like that ties into the whole "great individual leading us down the golden path" point:
"I would not lead you into the promised land if I could, because if I could lead you in, someone else would lead you out.”
It's perfect. Also a good summation of why anarchists are against centralizing power and vertical power structures.
To be fair, centralized _organization_ is necessary for any and all improvement at this point.
But maybe not led by the children and grandchildren of innovators.
I don’t believe anarchy is a system that could work. That it relies to much on people’s internal desire to do good *and* that everybody has a good understanding of what good is.
But man, I get the appeal.
The man thinks of himself as, the real-life Rick Sanchez. And he's right.
Just, not in the direction he believes.
He's what Rick Sanchez would be in real life of he was born rich and dumb.
He's not really that smart. It's a myth that he lives in offices and stays up all night being a "idea man". He tweets every 20 minutes. You really think he's thinking all the time of how to solve rocket problems and creating new inventions? Come on...
@@Bonesph Again. He certainly _believes_ he is.
One way of putting it. The more common comparison is Tony Stark: Musk believes that he is a genius businessman-engineer who must accept the great burden of saving mankind. He cultivates that as a public image. The only real question is how much he buys in to his own propaganda. Personally I think he really does believe it: When he decides to re-instate some conspiracy-theory-spreading hatemonger like the Bee on Twitter, he genuinely seems to believe that he is doing a noble thing in protecting civilisation from the existential threat of The Woke.
This aged like wine
It’s weird to me that when I struggle it’s because I’m not working hard enough, but when someone is born into wealth and uses that wealth to become even more wealthy they get applauded as a genius. Like damn I bet I could be real successful too if I had a couple million dollars to play around with.
Elon: **touches Grimes' cheek**
Elon: "We are both kindred of the stomach. We both love yogurt."
**dies**
I have no idea what this means but I feel compelled to thumbs up anyway. There is some primal truth in these randomly assembled words that speak to me.
These are Leto II Atreides' last words in God Emperor of Dune
@@overlookers not to be pedantic but aren’t those his last words to Hwi and not his actual last words entire?
The bit where you talk about how your channel is more focused on understanding the beliefs people have and why they have them, as opposed to "combating misinformation" put into words the reason I like your channel so much! Thank you!
"A disgraced games journalist who flash banged someone's dog."
Excuse me what? 😂
I'm an old, white, Scottish man and I hope that I am 'woke'. I certainly try to be.
I’m a young woman, but my father, who’s getting on in years has a good point here. If you think about what being “woke” is for more than five minutes, it’s just being empathetic and being anti-woke is just another way of saying you’re a heartless ghoul.
@@cakecinema9385Your father is spot on.
The Scottish are prizes of humanity
the scottish have a history of being more…. enlightened.
Just the first 60 seconds of this video are a masterclass in story telling
everyone just needs to watch "everything everywhere all at once" to achieve world peace, so true king
Don't worry; they're working on the digital singularity right now. All humanity merged into a single consciousness. No way to escape. Humans have longed for a magic sky daddy for thousands of years and they're finally going to get it. I hope I'm safely dead by then, with no way to digitally revive me.
@@lanceash uh yea that
Laughing at that screenshot of Musk quoting Dune, but it's a line from one of the Brian Herbert/Kevin J. Anderson ones.
Elon just has to be the shitty knockoff of everything related to science fiction. SpaceX is the shitty knockoff of NASA, the Hyperloop is the shitty knockoff of those transporter pipes from Futurama, and he himself is the shitty version of Tony Stark you bought off Wish when you were blackout drunk.
Figured that’s why they quote “Dune” and not the actual author
13:00 you really sent out assassination coordinates for the people on that jet, huh?
Basically killing him
I think Elon musk should have to follow workplace regulations created decades ago To safeguard employees, and he should receive penalty’s for not.
- woke mindvirus
this a jab at people thinking that work regulation is woke mindvirus, right?
The Worm metaphor really fuckin' hits. I've always viewed all these billionaires as contemptible wyrms, hoarding our treasures as their own.
I used to be a fan of Musk. The way my opinion changed was slowly with more and more stupid shit I couldn't defend. Don't give up on informing brainwashed people. You're making an impact that's not immediately apparent. It just takes time
Lol when the people didnt respond to his poll the way he wanted them to
Its crazy how people want fast food workers fired on the spot for not smiling but will not be outraged at the CEO of multiple companies retweeting superhitler1488
It's just a power trip. These people think they are better than a 'burger flipper', despite often being unemployed themselves, so can push them around and cause them trouble, for not treating them with the respect they think $0.99 deserves but they look up to the rich because they think the rich must think of them, the same way they see a burger flipper, like Elon Musk does.
This is extremely well articulated and I'm sending it to people that should see it
Fun correction, the Golden Path wasn't an inevitability. The way precognition in Dune works isn't so deterministic. A precog can see various possibilities and influence events through their actions to make certain outcomes more likely.
Spoilers below
the "Golden Path" of Leto II was to run an awful authoritarian empire for so long and so thoroughly that after his death humanity would be traumatized into never accepting living gods or emperors again. This was far from inevitable but with his precognition he determined it was the only way to break the endless cycle of empire, and amassed the power to make it a reality.
When I heard he wanted to buy Twitter, the first line that came to mind was that one from Citizen Kane: "I think it would be fun to run a newspaper."
technically the Golden Path wasn't the Path humanity would go down, but the path Paul and Leto foresaw as the only path that led to the survival of the human race
Exactly, that's what I remember too. Leto II had to work to force humanity down his Golden Path and he didn't love what he had to do to make it happen, or what it did to humanity. It's just that he valued survival of people he'd never meet higher than the feelings of people he interacted with every day of his life.
Yeah, Dune very much subscribes to great man theory. It just thinks that for great man theory to work you need to be a super worm.
@@Albinojackrusseland at the end of the day is he even human?
Like truly if the human species “survived” for 5 million years but we had to evolve into underground troll people I would say yeah nah pass
@@tlaloqq if it was a population level change then sure. But this is one individual.
From a philosophical perspective you can argue if he's a human and/or a person, but biologically he's just a malformed human.
@@Albinojackrussel The point of it is actually that Great Man theory or rather more generally the human tendency to want a messianic figure or charismatic leader to solve our problems for us is a bad thing. I didn't fully get into it, because I felt it would be a distraction. The Golden Path was basically meant to be a final proof against authoritarianism and messianic figures. Leto didn't become the Worm Emeror to lead Humanity down a glorious path, but to lead them down a path so horrible humanity would never trust a proclaimed messiah ever again. And the reason why Paul foresaw it but didn't/couldn't actually follow the golden path is a combination of factors, one being that it's a truly horrible thing to contemplate being given that much power and knowing with certainty that you will abuse it and that the best path forward is to abuse it to the maximum so no one else will be given that power. Additionally Paul is a Bad Guy, ultimately he fails because he is not motivated by the survival and flourishing of humanity, but by his personal grievances. He only cares about House Atreides and the Fremen.
tldr; Dune is a longwinded critique of Great Man history, not an endorsement of it
every day i am exploding elon musk with my mind. one day i hope this becomes our reality
Manifestation 😌 all together now, let's telepathically explode the muskrat
yes. if we all think really really hard it charges the blowing up elon device
Worth a shot but i gotta 9
I would, but I'm too busy controlling natural disasters, which takes a lot of concentration.
that's okay, we'll do our job and you do yours friend. keep up the great work 👍
"Elon Musk wants to be the Worm King." Well, he's half of that.
They really put the Simp in the Simpsons.
The greatest living inventor?
Ew.
"I think society should improve somewhat" - Jack Saint
Careful elon might ban you for that.
As someone who has read through all of Dune this year this video has planted a dangerous thought in my head: "What if I do it again though lol?"
I've read the first four books numerous times and I IMPLORE you to do a re-read if you're at all inclined. There are so many details, you'll almost certainly get something different out of it than the first time.
Love the new format of wandering around outside while filming. Keep it up!
When you said to watch _Everything, Everywhere, All At Once_ it took me a second to realize you weren't being literal and meant the movie.
Good movie, by the way. And a very sus prop ends up being exactly what you think it looks like.
the moment i saw it i knew it would be a chekov's gun
The editing on this + elon musk superpowers section just makes this a truly surrealist artwork
I don’t know what’s worse as a Dune fan- the idea that Elon is quoting from the abomination that is the the extended universe and has actually read “The Machine Crusade” or that he’s quoting it whilst having no understanding of the source material.
In everything, power lies with those who control finance, not with those who know the matter upon which the money is to be spent. Thus the holders of power are, in general, ignorant and malevolent, and the less they exercise their power the better.
- Bertrand Russell, Sceptical Essays
I'm just glad I didn't end up getting enraptured by Musk when he was making the rounds in 2017/2018 or so.
I chuckled at his antics like the mecha-suit and the whole flamethrower thing but I never looked into him beyond that, so I didn't develope this unhealthy para-social and borderline cult-like relationship with him.
I did follow him on Twitter during his flamethrower phase. I think cowbelly meme compilations introduced me to that. During that period i'd see a little bit of him, and then he posted some terrible right-wing shit and I was genuinely flabbergasted and followed him immediately.
I even held onto hope during that whole cave delving shit to save those poor kids! I was like 'ohh, a billionaire is finally doing something to help someone!' but if course, elon calls the guy who saves them a p*dophile and that's what made me hate the guy. What a terrible human being, I swear.
Same here.
I remember thinking I liked the guy. But he was a billionaire posting stupid memes and backing it up with the money he had. Obviously a publicity stunt, but I respected the angle he took with it. Like he understood what appealed to normal humans. But I knew nothing about him besides “Does spaceX, Makes shit cars (But they’re just prototypes, i’m just glad proper research is being done), participates in twitter bullshit, makes meme companies that kinda work somehow.
Then it turned out:
- He treats his workers at spaceX pretty bad, and has absolutely no background in engineering.
- The tesla cars were in fact not prototypes. And his promises look less likely by the day… holy shit, its a scam
- His twitter memes are now… political? Uh oh
- His meme companies have temporary success at best
SpaceX especially is interesting. Because they are still doing amazing things. But they’re doing them *despite* elon, not because of him.
His strategies for companies goes as follows:
- start a company
- Make it run at a massive loss for years
- Push away all the competition because you’re willing to run at a stupid loss just to get that monopoly
- The competition offers to buy your company just so their own business can survive.
- Take the money, and repeat.
im sorry you probably fonished this video right as elon made the funniest poll in history
What's the poll? (I refuse to interact w/ elongated muskrat)
@@chrystalmaniac Elon tweeted "Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll." And 57% of the 17 million votes said yes.
@@alexhirsch5738 Elon Musk: definitive proof that money can't buy friends.
@@alexhirsch5738 it gets better. Right wing influencers desperately tweeted at Musk to ignore the poll results and retain power. Tale as old as time.
I'm waiting for "I will abide by this poll" to become a meme
I was litterally talking to my friend the other day about how Elon Musk reminded me of Leto II The worm god emperor.
Musk is more like Tio Holtzmann than Leto II. Leto II actually did shit and didn't take credit for others' work like Holtzmann did.
DAMMIT I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF CHILDREN OF DUNE NOW I GOTTA FINISH IT TO COME BACK TO THIS VIDEO
Elon is quoting one of the shitty prequels
@@angryguy3000 those Frank's son did?
@@simonriley4131 yeah they’re not worth your time, read the books by Frank
@@simonriley4131 don't listen to the haters, the B. Herbert/Anderson books are fine, they're just not the same style.
I just love that people are starting to see who this Elon guy really is.
I love this new era of JackSaint.
It's great.
If we’re talking about great theory and the “woke mind virus” just look at Martin Luther King jr: he is man who we put up as the role reason segregation ended, but we ignore the women who organized the protests, or the people with cars that played a massive role driving people around during the bus bans. King did a lot yes, but he was standing on the shoulders of years of talks and group action.
Whos the woman name
@@hasanmuttaqin464 Rosa Parks, who actually planned and organized several bus sit-outs, is probably the most famous one. Another one is Dorothy Height, who helped organize the Washington March for jobs and freedom. There's also Ella Baker, who set up grass root activism in the South.
@@raydgreenwald7788 👍
I can't believe Elon called the police on poor Jack just for suggesting that Elon watch everything!
My neighbors recently posted pro-Elon propaganda on FB (i.e. he was boy genius who came from nothing to become the wealthiest man in the world and therefore he is a role model for their children). I shouldn't have to tell you that they are also a pro-trump family who have children that have served in the military. I shouldn't also have to tell you that they are very working class. They've fulfilled every requirement of the "American dream" (served the country, have a job, own a house and have some kids), yet have told me are still struggling to make ends meet. This is reality for MANY Americans, yet they extoll the virtues of a billionaire. I don't think they're idiots, rather, they don't know what they don't know. They never had the opportunity, through education or otherwise, to really expand their horizons outside of their social circle who all think the same things. The house they are in belonged to one of their parents and I think it was their grandparents before that? What's interesting is that for all their pro-America, individualistic thinking - this post indicates they will happily bend the knee to a powerful autocrat as long as they share similar beliefs. Like Jack said, this is terrifying. Also like Jack, I try to lead by demonstrating compassion and empathy rather than explanations as to why their thinking is wrong. I hope, in some small way, I can make them see that not all of us godless, gay, communists are the boogeyman the status quo makes us out to be.
You know, Elon Musk and I may agree on one thing, which is that trans people are among the leading drivers of social change today. Of course, as someone who has profited off the status quo, he's vehemently opposed to any changes to it.
Actually, we may agree on one other thing, which is that billionaires should not exist, and he's been doing everything in his power to set his fortune on fire.
Just have to give props for using the Dune Sardaukar throat singing, because I cracked up every time it was used.
In terms of acadmic history, I believe it is important to say that "Great Man Theory" is not as much of a theory in itself but rather a term through which conventional historiography has been critiqued - and I would argue fairly so - because it simplifies hugely complex interactions between cultures and societies down to the decisions and actions of leaders, too often to the exclusion of all else.
This kind of simplification allows the French Revolution and its fight for survival and influence in Europe to be told as "the story of Napoleon" or the American War of Independence as "the story of George Washington". This is handy for teaching children the rough outline of a series of complicated events within the space of schoolclass, but if most people only get to subscribe to such historiography, everyone will be left with a society based on a poor understanding of its past. The "Great Man Theory" is in itself a term of derision used to critique what is all too often the history taught to us as standard, and I think this distinction is very meaningful for getting the whole picture.
I do not want to single out this channel specifically; many wonderful channels are doing great stuff despite the misleading framing of "Great Man Theory".
Good video overall - thank you for making it... and merry Christmas everyone!
I don't think I've ever felt like a movie healed me until I watched Everything Everywhere All at Once
"Be kind" God, what a wonderful film
Loving the new content! The way you present your ideas in these vids is always so funny and effective imo. Hope the new release schedule has been kind on u personally as well :)
Elon is a good argument for making comedy illegal.
Ownership.
You misspelled ownership.
Thanks Jack. Now I'll waste hours bc u made me wonder if "Navigator Perspective" Dune fanfic exists
Thinking Elon is going to "take control" ignores the fact that he is largely already IN control.
In control of what? Lets be real he is the toddler king who needs his regents to actually govern for him lest the any project he actually supervises goes to shit see cyber truck
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle in control of most of the world's wealth, and by extension, most of the world's well being. I say this fully aware that the world is currently on fire and under water at the same time.
bruh my divorced dad use to take us to cheesecake factory...
elon became a thing in my circle about the year 2014. that's when I learned about him. one person was telling me about him and I replied "ehhh, he might do those things but he sound like a thomas edison"... and the more I've heard about musk the more it became clear to me that he is worse than edison. but people said that I am a hater and "where are your billions".
Well don’t feel too bad, I’m guessing your parents didn’t own an emerald mine in apartheid Africa
@@MyDuckSaysFucc nope. those bastards
love that big man. great man theory of history should focus on that random statue in the park
People keep comparing Musk to all these eccentric billionaires, but for some goddamn reason I CANNOT. GET. the Cave Johnson comparison. TO STICK.
Johnson is magnetic and charismatic, Musk is a black hole of repugnance
A perfect example of the "right time, right place" non-strategy strategy
The jet cutaways are so funny. WHO IS INSIDE
The most notable power being hairplugs
Dude....that was one of the best wrap around jokes I've ever heard. I am so impressed that I'm stunned more than laughing.
jacks mum is the best secondary character to be introduced this year
I'm disappointed you didn't mention the time he tried to fire a worker for supposedly being lazy when it was actually a pizza delivery guy waiting for his tip.
This was a really well written video, I'm pretty stupid and you pressed on the right points and made some really good connections between the weird deity status and how it happens. Big fan of your new video style
They thought he was ubermensch but that's ubercringe
Musk's fans excusing and absolving him of everything reminds me of PewDiePie's fans back when that was a hot issue. "How can you say he's racist? He apologizes in between every racist thing he does!"
Fuck Pewdiepie. I never really cared for him but when he did that thing where he has those guys who clearly didn’t know English write “kill all Jews” on a banner as a “joke” I knew that he was trash, and the lengths that his fans went to defend that just goes to show the kind of fan base he harbors.
@Lind Morn 🤣 sure
@Lind Morn literally no one watches him anymore
The worm king is dead.
Long live the worm king.
Long live the rat kings
I love how when this video was released the renaming Twitter to X thing hadnt even happened yet
I got shamed for not being impressed about Elon Musk
Person: you don't like him because he's rich. You don't like rich people
Me: Nah, I'm just not super impressed about him after reading more details about how he inherited his wealth, and the documented racism that took place in his whole company.
Person: you're judgemental
Me: 🤷🏿♀️
Cult of personality. People want to believe in something or someone greater. To lose that is a painful experience.
I mean even though he's not a king, he is indeed a smelly worm. He's prolly happy about reaching one of his 2 dreams
So I think you may have misunderstood the golden path. The golden path isn't the inevitability of history, but the one path that results in humanity surviving.
This is the Crux of the conflict between Paul and Leto. Both searched for this path and saw the horror inherent in it. They both saw that without the diaspora and anti-precog abilities, humanity is vulnerable to the rise of the machines which they thought were gone (particularly as the machines advanced where humanity did not thanks to the Butlerian Jihad).
Paul essentially, both out of his own despair and horror, decides not to take humanity down the golden path. In doing so, he has essentially doomed Leto into the path. Leto resents Paul for this, and Paul ultimately sacrifices what remains of his sister in "atonement" for this burden.
The only reason Leto is willing to take the path is because he was already inhuman prior to his transformation. Unlike a Kwizatz Haderach (probably spelt wrong), he is technically an abomination (he is possessed by ALL of his ancestors)... Though iirc that's less apartment in children of dune.
Jack looking like a younger Charles Bronson adds an entirely new dimension to this video.
And the dude probably doesn’t even, like, GET Space Jam
Love from Mama and the Imps! This video was excellent, and you've earned a new subscriber from me because of DemonMama showcasing your video on her channel.
Lotsa love and support from the Imps. 💗
I feel like I just had a conversation with myself. Awesome video!