Alabama or Massachusetts Which is Better? (World of Warships Legends)
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Just realized I said a William Sims full secondary build on Masschusetts I meant to say Willis Lee Full Secondary Build.
I just unlocked Yamato 1 hour ago as of this posting. Been working on that Bureau project for almost 2 years.
Montana is next in the list.
@@skullfracture3870 2 years? I thought even with no boosts a bureau ship takes less than a year, unless you don't play all that often. In any event, welcome to the world of overmatch and troll dispersion. Yami is one those ships that exemplifies "floating slot machine", she's either a monster or a joke depending on your rng.
And I will say too that Montana is more consistent, Iowa with better armor/hp and an extra turret pretty much sums her up. As a result, she takes a little more thought than Yami but can be more effective in some situations.
@@177SCmaro when I started it I didn’t play very often, I was still into CoD, and mostly playing that. Vanguard and MW2 were buggy crapfests, so I quit CoD completely and now I play RPG’s and World of Warships.
@@skullfracture3870 gotcha👍
Willis "Cheng" Lee is the man who rewrote the book on naval gunnery, trained all his gunners on said book, and used his 5 inch guns to ninja vanish his entire battleship when being chased by FIVE IJN heavy cruisers and destroyers, after destroying the Kongo class battleship Kirishima
Yeah the fat electrician made a video on him recently
@SpartanElite43 love me some Fat Electrician. He's the reason I bought the Texas.
Still mad WG didn't add the USS Washington to the game. Only battleship to sink another battleship during WWII, but nooo, not gonna put it in the battleship game.
Dude that channel rocks!
I’ve said it on previous videos, and I’ll say it again, I love my BB Colorado (it’s my home state) and it’s my tank when I need it for earning credits. It’s slow, but it’s already agile and rudder shift upgrade makes it hard to hit when kiting, and makes it easier to hit one target, or multiple targets while playing throttle jockey and angle king. I use Sims for accuracy on that ship, I use Sim on most of my ships, but if feel like brawling I have Lee as a backup.
I got the Massachusetts as my first gxp ship and I am happy with it. no point to even try Alabama.
as you say, it is accurate enough to be consistent. + the option for secondaries.
at the moment, I am close to getting my first gxp t8. I think I ll go for the Elbing as I enjoy dd's/cruisers more then BB's.
Elbing is a savage cruiser without a citadel. The torps are cheeky as they relod quickly, and the low speed can catch people sleeping. And those guns are dirty. Throw the pan asian ap angle commander and those thing pen at some stupid angles. And then there is the defence... no words are needed. 33k health is so useful.
Ty, Spartan. When the Massachusetts came out a couple of years back, I tried to say the same thing regarding the Massachusetts being a near peer to the ‘Bama as a sniper if desired. That just fell on deaf ears with FB. 👍
That would be a very informative video for most players up to mid level , I might have to change my massys upgrade to plotting room instead of secondary reload 🤔
Yeah the secondary booster in 4th slot can get you about a 1.2 second reload buff which isn't enough to justify it instead of the accuracy buff to main guns
I prefer running the Massachusetts with a William Sims Hybrid/accuracy build. I use Von Hipper as an inspiration and take secondary battery mod 2 then run the rest as an accuracy. I still get 9.6km secondaries and an accurate ship.
I think that you make it even more interesting your videos Spartan. This VS mode is quite nice. 🇨🇭🇵🇹
Glad you enjoy it!
Great video spartan enjoyed it I prefer massa I have full secondary build with plotting room for accuracy again great video 😎👍
Alabama: Accurate guns✅, better camo (opinion)✅, High risk of catching fire ❌
Massachusetts: brawl build=extra heals( optional ) ✅+ accurate secondaries deal with pesky destroyers ✅. Trolly main gun accuracy ❌
massa holds an advantage over her sister Alabama with secondary armaments, survivability. at the end of the day RNG is opposite of guaranteed. Having your ace be under the mercy of fortune can bring disappointment at times.
I have both and I like them equally.
Literally read my mind. I was looking for videos comparing the 2 yesterday. And boom your vid. Thank you!
Perfect! Hope you enjoyed! Been getting the question a lot so I decided to answer it officially
I have both and Massachusetts was a BEAST and Alabama I just couldn't do shiat in for whatever reason.
However I have noticed this update my Massachusetts just isn't hitting the same.
I have massa, love massa
I am going to leave the gameing to you,nice game spartan and awesome commentary best in the game
I’ve got a question for you, Spartan (or anyone else who may know). Please don’t come at me if this is a stupid question, but I have William Sims as the commander for my American BBs bc I run an accuracy build. I don’t have most of the AL commanders to use for inspirations but I’ve always run Cunningham for better grouping. Then I saw that Angelo Iachino also buffs grouping. I’ve run them both and I feel like it does end up putting more shells on target, but I didn’t know if that was just me or if you can actually stack the grouping by running both of them.
Absolutely nothing wrong with buffing grouping especially on American BBs as that is where they struggle most.
this is how I see it, feel free to give other opinions. If you want a fun secondary/brawl build go for the mass. If you want a sniper build (like you mentioned in the video) go for the alabama. This is how I use both ships and will continue to do so
Can u do iowa vs nj vs missori? For seeing which one is better over all accuracy and tankyness
Massa was my first gxp ship too and I’m using Kong as my Commander, but I’m not really enjoying it
Definitely Big Mamie for me. I don't have Haruna, so I can't enjoy the absolute max range on my secondaries, but they still reach out to 10.5km. 9 16" super heavy US AP shells and 10 5" guns per side. Get that secondary booster running and gods help whatever poor red ship is in range. Even better when you've got both sides going. Can't tell you how many times those secondaries have saved my bacon. Looking port and suddenly see my starboard secondaries start going off... oh, hello little DD. Hope you enjoy the welcome package I'm sending :).
Haha nice
Spartan thanks for being fair and objective about these 2 ships .i agree 100 percent with you. Only thing Alabama has over massa is slighty faster turrets
Keep up the good work matey
Thanks, will do!
Don’t make the choice just get them both you won’t be disappointed
Haha not everyone plays as much as us Tuna
@@SpartanElite43 true. But they are both great ships.
@@jasonaune6889 absolutely
Massachusetts is a great ship. With really fun secondaries and really good accuracy. (The hang time on the shells feels a lot like IJN BBs only it's consistently accurate) Also I run my Massachusetts with a hybrid accuracy/secondary build
I have both. I use ‘Bama for accuracy (either Sims or AL New Jersey) and Big Mamie for brawling with Lee.
Bought the bama over the masss just because I’ve actually been on the bama several times, I’m not disappointed at all, love the accuracy. Although, like you said there’s really no reason to get the bama over the masa the secondary base range difference is wild.
Fair
Hello comanders, I have both, but I feel more comfortable with the Massachusetts
Ive got Bama Mass and Mass B. Bama I run unconventionally as use AL Colorado in an accuracy/reload build. Snipe from long to mid range. Mass I run brawler Mass B secondary build all 3 you can have a blast with.
While there are lots of great ships in the game, I prefer ships that really existed so that's what I like to collect (at least, the free to play ones) so I ended up with both Massa and Bama and it's sorta like two different flavors of ice cream, both are great, it's just a matter of what mood I'm in. I will say my playstyle tends to favor Alabama but since I got both I play them about the same amount of time.
imo I do notice that Alabama accuracy, esp at long range, relative to Massachusetts but I also notice those secondaries on Massa when dd screws up and gets spotted.
Absolutely
Love all 3 of my South Dakota’s. Great game Spartan
Having both Mass and Mass B (and Georgia and Georgia W) from campaigns/crates, the last thing I need is another T7 US BB. 😂
I love these 2 ships i just wish they had faster shells like iowa
I also run plotting room on all my American bbs even on massa secondaries build
If Massachusetts can do the same thing as Alabama there is no need to buy Alabama.
I feel like you favored the Massachusetts in this video, talking nore about its upsides and the bamas downsides. Nearly ignoring the bamas better traits like the better torpedo reduction on bama, the better concealment. The better rudder shift, better turret rotation, and better range. Alabama is better in all od the aspects I mentioned, though not by much, this is far better better than 2km secondaries.
Yeah honestly it's not enough to make a notable difference between the ships the biggest downside to Massachusetts is slow turret traverse and range if main guns being sub 18km
I wonder what the South Dakota would be like a secondary or main gun ship if it came to legends both are great but have different quality’s
I got the massa with my 750k gxp last week and already got a 199k game and a 214k game, it’s so fun 😂
She's a beast
@@SpartanElite43 yeah she really is a beast, if you want my build, i use Willis Lee with the same skills that you use and i have von hipper and azur Lane Fuso as inspiration.
I run kong or willis atm for secondary hybrid build on my mass b
I love the Alabama more than then Massachusetts because I love sniping
for me it's hard because Massachsetts and Alabama are both amazing Battleships and I say that because they are the same BB the diffents is that mass use to have the longest range secondary's in Legends and a little better HP to make her live longer but I do say Mass is a better choice to get
Missouri over both them imo. That radar can change the whole tide of the game when you need it. It is a huge advantage especially in a accurate us bb. It keeps the bugs away.
Missouri is not a fair comparison due to it being a steel ship and an Iowa class that has radar and original ap damage
Love both, but got my BAMA first. Completely concur with Spartans argument. I just have a special place in my heart for my BAMA. Plus she is soo damn sexy looking!
I do a hybrid build on massa and it seems to work half decently. But i only have massa so im a little biases on this argument.
Oh, this question is easy!
Neither of 'em because when they ram one another, they'll both blow up and sink.
I chose Massachusetts because it has long range secondary.
230k of GXP to go before I obtain Alabama since I already got Big Mamie to complete the set.
They are the both South Dakota class BBs? The only thing different about them is name...
They really need to make a Red Sox battle flag. It would be wicked pissah.
I have the Massachusetts and I have used secondary builds and range/accuracy builds and absolutely love the Massachusetts but Alabama overall is better. The consistency of accuracy is supreme and if you are accurate there isn't much you can do to stop it. Massachusetts main guns without accuracy build is below average. It's absolutely horrible that Massachusetts without range build only has 16.9 km range. Which in a lot of these open maps is brutal to get close. I'm actually about to get Alabama but I'm deciding between the USSR barigton the azsuma or the Flandre. Still deciding.
Both are great and honestly just depends on your playstyle but I go almost full secondary build and run epic battle booster and even then the mains are pretty consistent as you rack up damage especially with epic mod
@@SpartanElite43 I do too on my Massachusetts I use the secondary build and even switch from accuracy mod or secondary mod for the most part I happen to like both as I fight in both styles. But I've noticed when you are playing a good Alabama captain the accuracy and power is really hard to stop. In close though the Massachusetts is absolutely brutal especially bow tanking 1 or 2 BBs who don't over match and you can do some wild drive bys in the Massachusetts but it's hard to do when your team sucks and leaves you and the enemies always running away. You can't run from the Alabama even at far range. Well if the captain is good anyway. Though I do like the Massachusetts if done right even with a range build you can get the secondaries out to 9.8 or so if I remember correctly which is pretty cool considering.
Got Alabama in create so I am working on getting Massachusetts. Alabama be my sniper with commander Sims. Massachusetts will be the brawling with Lee. Can't wait get the Massachusetts. The South Dakota class bb are the best in my opinion.
Noice!
@@SpartanElite43 honestly believe the South Dakota class bb are the best class of battleship.
Punch that like button!
For a secondary BB brawler I have my Bismarck^^ 🇩🇪
Working on the Tennessee currently. Sims is my commander. Any suggestions?
Have you seen my path to the Kansas playlist? I go through all the ships in that line and give my tips on how to play them.
If youre specifically asking about commander inspirations I recommend Paolo di Revel and cunningham
@@SpartanElite43
No I have not. I'm still running through a bunch of your past videos. I'll have to find it and watch it before I really start to hate it. Lol. Thanks again!
and what if game just says NO, since I got masa from the campaign, never I had great games.. very few maybe. Sims 16/3… Shells fly like when you grab some sand on the beach and throw it. So I use it mostly as brawler…..
Maybe I should buy Bama, and it could go better for accuracy then? :))
I recommend Massachusetts as a brawler using Willis lee
is ot true that damage caused from secondary nets you less xp?
and does that apply to fires from secondaries
Yes secondary damage gives less xp than if you shot the with mains however I don't believe that is the truth for any fires and damage caused by the fires.
@SpartanElite43 ok good so American secondaries that primarily cause fires and not damage won't get affected
I have Massa B and I love her
Spartan, is the Mighty Mo a good ship currently?
Absolutely
Now the iowa class, which one's better. iowa, al new jersey, or missouri? Follow up if Wisconsin is ever added js
Missouri
@SpartanElite43 haven't played it yet still working on getting steel. The missouri is the only American BB that I don't have yet been playing 5 years now
What is the better battleship, Massachusetts or Monarch?
I'd give the edge to Massachusetts but not as big a gap as you'd think
I love both
Mass for sure
Alaska vs. De Moines
Well I've been on Alabama so you know I'm biased
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I have two massa and a Alabama
So which do you prefer?
@@Suportartist honestly I don’t play either very much anymore. At t7 I would rather play a cruiser
Bama! all day.
Sweet home Alabama…. The clue is within the name. That’s where the Massachusetts lacks. Especially after bottle of vodka
Alabama has better accuracy, many may not agree. Mine citadels everything 😂
Whos better the Iowa or the Mighty Mo? P.s The Alabama is better. Why? Because I was born and raised in Alabama. So by the fault, it's better
Mighty Mo
I have 750k gxp. Should I get Alabama or Friesland?
Do you prefer BBs or DDs both are great
@@SpartanElite43 well like you said if you have Massachusetts you probably don't need Alabama and I got massa. Crazy timing with this video Spartan. Thank you!
Mass
I have both, Massachusetts is much better, Massachusetts can do anything really with my hybrid build. Alabama can only really snipe and dodge
Mass slightly better overall
As it is my most played ship, Massachusetts is better than Alabama. For all the reasons you brought up. It has my highest potential damage received at 2.4 million, it's undeniably tanky and better suited to handle most situations. Nearly 2k battles in her. She, by far, is my favorite BB in Legends.
Yeah she's a beast
@@SpartanElite43 Absolutely
جميل لكن لم ارك تلعب في الحاملة الطائرات او الغواصات ❤
I hate playing aircraft carriers and we don't have subs in Legends
@@SpartanElite43 Oh well. We need to explain the game, it seems big, what are the best ships, what resources do we use, how do we develop it. What it offers is something beautiful.
Zieten Or Bismarck Plz
That's an easy one German BCs all day over the main line BBs
IOWA Class BB61 MASSA BB63 New Jersey BB64❤
Massa is not an Iowa class it is a South Dakota class.
The iowas that were built are Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri, Wisconsin.
Alabama gets more citadels....massy gets more damage on salvos.
Considering the ballistics is the same on both they are both very capable of citadels... just depends on your build obviously Alabama is usually a Sniper build so it will usually land more shells more often than a Secondary Build Massa but if you refer back to the New Jersey at the start you can see that Massa is fully capable of Deleting anything just like Alabama
@@SpartanElite43 Just my experience in playing both.Great ships.
Hi
Hi
Not got any of them not much of BB player.
Fair
Prefer the massa.
First?
Yup