Loaded it with Benchmark in my 308 savage axis 2 and it’s a legit 1/2 to 5/8 MOA load. COL at 2.92 and around 3300 fps. A 0.142 G7 was accurate to 547 yards. The bullet has done well on two neck shots at around 150 and 180. Still need to try a traditional vitals shot to see how it does, but considering it does well in 300 BO, I’m guessing it will perform just fine.
I shot these at about 2700 fps for a reduced recoil load for my nephew. He ended up shooting a good sized doe brosdside only to have it loose 3 of the 4 petals. The remaining petal caused the bullet to make a hard right turn immediately after entering the deer and it failed to penetrate the vitals. Coyotes caught up with it that night and finished it off and we found it the next day with the remains of the bullet being found in the ham on the entry side despite the shot being placed almost perfectly behind the shoulder. Keep that bullet under 2400 fps as thats what it was designed for. If you want a screaming fast, lightweight bullet thatll fragment consistently still penetrate in a straight line, look at the Cutting Edge 100 gr flat based raptor.
Based on the powders I have in GRT there are only two powders that get to 3.250 ft/s within 308 Win Spec (pressure, COL) out of a 18’ barrel. Accurate LT30 and Hodgdon Lever Evolution. LT30 would be preferable as a 100% powder burn is achieved (LR 92%). After those two there is a big gap with then many powders coming in between 3.050 and 3.150 ft/s
@@AlaskanBallistics in 308 and 30-06. The 30-06 has the advantage when using heavier bullets because the extra case capacity allows deeper seating without loosing much velocity and the brass is cheap and easier to find, as is 308. I bought a bunch of 7.62x51 brass, so I don't mind losing a few in the bush.
@@AlaskanBallistics I think that bullet was being driven too fast. It was designed to expand properly at much lower velocities. There are some 150 grain barnes bullets that might perform a bit better. Some were designed for the 30-30, but work well in the 308. Pushing the bullet too fast causes it to lose petals. You ger good penetration but lose on the enrgy transfer.
Load the 120s for 308 and above. They have a boattail design that will give you just a little better down range trajectory. If youre shots are gonna reach out. 3300 fps is stupid fast. I load my 120's to 2850 and they do amazing work at 200-300 yards.
@AlaskanBallistics 2.785 c.o.a.l.... uses 100% of the bearing surface of the 120's..... from base of the projectile to end of bearing surface is right at 0.450".... still reading .3075.... brass trimmed at 2.005... loaded over 43.7 grains of varget. Now that's F.C. brass.... I've also used winchester, remington, armscor, and Lapua. The federal brass has been my go-to for my ar10. I do apply a very lite crimp and have had literally killer results. Powder in the other cartridges and federal varies up to and beyond 44.5-45 grains but with this lot of varget I'm safe at this load and I'm not sending it out where impact velocities are above 2800 fps. Bullet holds together almost 90% of the time. This is out of a gen 3 pmag.
Hey wondering if you ever loaded cutting edge bullets? I’m really interested in seeing how an 18” 308 would perform using their 135gr ER Raptor bullet.
I must try these out of a Contender 14" 30-30 Ackley Improved barrel. I should be able to push them at 2700 fps. The goal is 250 yrds PBR, 300 yards with 1000 ft-lbs and 2000 fps. Will this bullet work for deer at those velocities or is this too fast? Thanks for the vid.
Hey Chuck, be ok on smaller deer I figure. Great velocity. Very nice rifle! Is that a re-run new one? Or an older one? I was of the understanding REM didn’t make the 600 anymore? Those rifles on the 2nd market over here fetch a premium. Very popular back in the day. I met a guy who had a 600 Mohawk in 308, and everyone was very envious of his rifle! I got a couple of fallow deer with my 8mm Mauser on Sunday. Cheers Dave 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
Got a few of these from a Barnes rep a couple years or so ago. Never got around to trying them in my .300 Blk. Maybe I'll load them up for my AR10, using CFE BLK. Long as they fit in the magazine they should work fine.
@@AlaskanBallistics Yeah, prolly. I'm going to load up some 147 grain FMJs for backup. I gotta believe between the two of 'em, I can fill the one a day limit for my three day hunt. Don't wanna waste any premium bullets killing vermin.
@bustabass9025 I'd like to find an fmj load and 150gr cx or ttsx load that could use the same powder charge and point of impact difference is minimal at 100 yards
Funny ive always thought about loading these and the 120grs in the .308 win, i didnt even thing about overall length. I picked up some 125gr SSTs recently though and I'm looking forward to playing with those. Ill be watching for your 130gr video!
@@AlaskanBallistics I may have to start trying the accubonds out since speer seems to have given up on the gold dot rifle bullets. I like bonded and copper for hunting bullets.
Chuck, Bravo for another good video. What is the rate of twist on your Rem. 600? A light bullet and you said it hit the center. I assume that it hit where you were aiming. I think that this Barnes bullet is more for varmits than deer considering the explosiveness and weight loss.
@AlaskanBallistics I have loaded 125 grain BTs down to around 2700 fps/2000 ft lbs with Reloder 15 in the past. I also experimented with IMR 3031, but don't have any more of it. My favorite Grendel loads use RL15, so I have several pounds that I could experiment with. I don't know why it wouldn't work with the 110s. I do have a pile of 125 ABs, so I may take your recommendation and give those a try. I am looking at a lightweight .308 at 4.5 lbs. I thought that reduced loads would be a good choice for the girlfriend and her daughters to use on whitetails down here.
Agreed... this 110gr tends to shed petals unevenly causing the bullet to penetrate less, so it either needs to be sub 2500fps, OR 3100+ where it will shed them all. The barnes 130gr at 2800fps should give you greatly reduced recoil as well
@AlaskanBallistics CX should be more similar to the Barnes... but I was thinking to see a more frangible bullet... like for home defense applications. I have a bunch of the 150gr gold dot rounds, but am looking to shift towards lighter weight, higher velocity and more frangible
@joshuafox3230 yeah. It will break apart for sure. . Thick guys wearing armor It may not penetrate. Eventually I'll get to that test, but I've got a lot on my plate first.
I been wantin to try these in my 16” dd .308. I’ve got over 10 different handloads in .308 that all shoot and been tryin to reach 3k from 16” barrel and this is my ticket I’m bout positive…factory 130gr federal runs 28 sominthin from it so the 110 may cover that last 200fps I need…got Barnes 180ttsx with varget loaded up to try on whitetail…big 10mm fan also ands how I’ve arrived here…thanks man. Matt
No. Not a chance. Check out my body armor playlist and you'll see both level 3+ steel and level IV ceramic plates stop a whole lot more. If they were solid copper at that speed or a hardcast lead in an fmj they MIGHT go through level 3+ steel plates
@@AlaskanBallistics yea I guess your right , now I just wanna see a light weight 30 cal copper bullet blast through some level 3 plate!!! I have doubts about level VI , but who knows?
@andywilson8698 i sent this bullet at over 3900 fps from a .300 win mag at a level IV. If it were a non expanding solid copper, maybe. Not an expanding bullet
@@AlaskanBallistics lol, I haven’t been a reloader in about 30 years. I just buy factory bulk. For shooting fun. For “Fuck Around and Find Out (aka SHTF) I’ve been buying premium ammunition at every gun show I went to (couple of boxes at a time) for 35 years.
@@AlaskanBallistics I would shoot it in a win 94 , if it would cycle and load from the magazine then one chambered one in the mag. Two rounds thats it ...
Hence 130gr ttsx in my 300wby tops out stupid fast and hits like a freight train,,and exits no matter what the angle is,,,and stupid fast is yup over 3800fps
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Loaded it with Benchmark in my 308 savage axis 2 and it’s a legit 1/2 to 5/8 MOA load. COL at 2.92 and around 3300 fps. A 0.142 G7 was accurate to 547 yards. The bullet has done well on two neck shots at around 150 and 180. Still need to try a traditional vitals shot to see how it does, but considering it does well in 300 BO, I’m guessing it will perform just fine.
Sounds like a fun load! Godspeed and good hunting!
Want to see this bullet in 300 Win mag
On the body armor video
Yes,that vould be interesting.👍
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What's left of your barrel .after a hundred or so .Is it not a barrel burner.
Simple minded fella shot the 120gr into a gel with a 300 PRC. It was rather explosive.
👍👍pretty impressive and even though it lost a lot of material it penetrated further than I thought it would. Appreciate the video Chuck.
That's how I feel about it. Pretty much the perfect .308 deer load
Cool Thanks
You're welcome
I shot these at about 2700 fps for a reduced recoil load for my nephew. He ended up shooting a good sized doe brosdside only to have it loose 3 of the 4 petals. The remaining petal caused the bullet to make a hard right turn immediately after entering the deer and it failed to penetrate the vitals. Coyotes caught up with it that night and finished it off and we found it the next day with the remains of the bullet being found in the ham on the entry side despite the shot being placed almost perfectly behind the shoulder. Keep that bullet under 2400 fps as thats what it was designed for. If you want a screaming fast, lightweight bullet thatll fragment consistently still penetrate in a straight line, look at the Cutting Edge 100 gr flat based raptor.
I'll have to look at them... i prefer suited with this bike so all 4 petal break off so it doesn't turn.
But the 130gr ttsx is a better option
Sounds like a bad shot , not a magical bullet
It's an improperly loaded round. It should have been loaded faster to allow all 4 pedals to blow off, Or downloaded farther to .300 blackout specs
Great video! I’m looking forward to the 125 accubond and 130 Barnes results.
Nice.... 2 or 3 more weeks
Based on the powders I have in GRT there are only two powders that get to 3.250 ft/s within 308 Win Spec (pressure, COL) out of a 18’ barrel.
Accurate LT30 and Hodgdon Lever Evolution. LT30 would be preferable as a 100% powder burn is achieved (LR 92%).
After those two there is a big gap with then many powders coming in between 3.050 and 3.150 ft/s
What's GRT? the TAC POWDER IS supposed to get over according to the barnes
@@AlaskanBallistics GRT is a free alternative to Quickload. So far it has been extremely accurate in predicting the speeds I see in real tests
Funny barnes manual has TAC powder getting over 3400
@@AlaskanBallistics Barnes load data is on a 24’ barrel. I used the 18’ of the rifle you shot in the test
@nikos6220 okay cool phone app?
110 VMAX works great in my 16" 308 at 3000fps. Very tight groups, great coyote and pig medicine
Cool. Good anti 2 legged shtf medicine too
Awesome range test and great video
Thank you
Thank you I have a bunch of 600 s
600 s?
I use the 120 gr version at lower velocity, this allows the bullet to be seated deeper. If the bullet is too long, the tip can be trimmed.
Good results? In .308?
@@AlaskanBallistics
in 308 and 30-06. The 30-06 has the advantage when using heavier bullets because the extra case capacity allows deeper seating without loosing much velocity and the brass is cheap and easier to find, as is 308. I bought a bunch of 7.62x51 brass, so I don't mind losing a few in the bush.
@@AlaskanBallistics I think that bullet was being driven too fast. It was designed to expand properly at much lower velocities. There are some 150 grain barnes bullets that might perform a bit better. Some were designed for the 30-30, but work well in the 308. Pushing the bullet too fast causes it to lose petals. You ger good penetration but lose on the enrgy transfer.
@untermench3502 oh i agree. I'd probably never use this on Alaskan game. The 130gr barnes ttsx is better
@@AlaskanBallistics
I agree, but as a personal defense round, the lighter bullets are better. Lower recoil and shorter time to target are a plus.
Light is where it's at for stuff.
Cool video I think it would be a fantastic 🦌 around
Possibly
The TAC-TX was designed for the .300 BO. Have you tried the 110gr TTSX?
No I can't find it anywhere. Not the regular TSX either. If you know of some place let me know
@@AlaskanBallistics Midway has 'em
@ShastaBean cool... now I've got to get them
My rifle in 308 has no magazine i love it .Can shoot real long Bullets
Cool.
I’d like to try some of those from my 16” SFAR (it actually works 😂). Thanks for the video
Don't use the compressed load with TAC powder. You can't seat these deep enough for the magazine
Wait till you see the 130gr barnes video.
@@AlaskanBallistics I appreciate the heads up and I’m looking forward to the 130gr Barnes video!
Always wanted to deer hunt with a super light & fast 30-06.
I've got the powder to send these 3450+ hopefully... just gotta get around to loading these in .30-06
Impressive velocities
Yeah it's fast.
Second
You're losing your touch
That is pretty FAST!! Nice work Chuck! - Jason/Freedom Fighter Until Death/Vermont, FRA (‘FRA’, meaning “The Failed Republic Of America”)
Thank you
Load the 120s for 308 and above. They have a boattail design that will give you just a little better down range trajectory. If youre shots are gonna reach out.
3300 fps is stupid fast. I load my 120's to 2850 and they do amazing work at 200-300 yards.
What powder and overall length do you use?
@AlaskanBallistics 2.785 c.o.a.l.... uses 100% of the bearing surface of the 120's..... from base of the projectile to end of bearing surface is right at 0.450".... still reading .3075.... brass trimmed at 2.005... loaded over 43.7 grains of varget. Now that's F.C. brass.... I've also used winchester, remington, armscor, and Lapua. The federal brass has been my go-to for my ar10. I do apply a very lite crimp and have had literally killer results. Powder in the other cartridges and federal varies up to and beyond 44.5-45 grains but with this lot of varget I'm safe at this load and I'm not sending it out where impact velocities are above 2800 fps. Bullet holds together almost 90% of the time. This is out of a gen 3 pmag.
@benjaminbrown1179 nice thanks for the info
nice review!
Thank you
Hey wondering if you ever loaded cutting edge bullets? I’m really interested in seeing how an 18” 308 would perform using their 135gr ER Raptor bullet.
I've not. But I might load some of their 115gr 7mm mag
I got some loaded to deer hunt with extremely accurate in my 300 wby
Nice... getting 4000 fps?
@@AlaskanBallistics Lil over
Love it speed kills
I must try these out of a Contender 14" 30-30 Ackley Improved barrel. I should be able to push them at 2700 fps. The goal is 250 yrds PBR, 300 yards with 1000 ft-lbs and 2000 fps. Will this bullet work for deer at those velocities or is this too fast? Thanks for the vid.
Should work well at those velocities!
Hey Chuck, be ok on smaller deer I figure. Great velocity. Very nice rifle! Is that a re-run new one? Or an older one? I was of the understanding REM didn’t make the 600 anymore? Those rifles on the 2nd market over here fetch a premium. Very popular back in the day. I met a guy who had a 600 Mohawk in 308, and everyone was very envious of his rifle! I got a couple of fallow deer with my 8mm Mauser on Sunday. Cheers Dave 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
It's an older one. Have a good one David!
.17 Rem is .172 Dia btw
Got a few of these from a Barnes rep a couple years or so ago. Never got around to trying them in my .300 Blk. Maybe I'll load them up for my AR10, using CFE BLK. Long as they fit in the magazine they should work fine.
Agreed. Look at the .308 data and take out at least .5gr to seat the bullet deep enough.
@@AlaskanBallistics
Gonna give 'em a go. I'll let you know how they turn out. Got a Georgia hog hunt coming up next month. 👍🏿
@bustabass9025 these might be a little light for hogs going this fast. But you'll like the 130gr 308 barnes video coming out soon
@@AlaskanBallistics
Yeah, prolly. I'm going to load up some 147 grain FMJs for backup. I gotta believe between the two of 'em, I can fill the one a day limit for my three day hunt. Don't wanna waste any premium bullets killing vermin.
@bustabass9025 I'd like to find an fmj load and 150gr cx or ttsx load that could use the same powder charge and point of impact difference is minimal at 100 yards
Funny ive always thought about loading these and the 120grs in the .308 win, i didnt even thing about overall length. I picked up some 125gr SSTs recently though and I'm looking forward to playing with those. Ill be watching for your 130gr video!
I was really impressed with the 130gr ttsx and the 125gr Accubond
@@AlaskanBallistics I may have to start trying the accubonds out since speer seems to have given up on the gold dot rifle bullets. I like bonded and copper for hunting bullets.
@rubberduckey109 barnes was getting about 3210 out of Springfield m1a and the accubonds 3184
@@AlaskanBallistics that's some pretty good velocity for sure. Using TAC with those bullets as well?
Yes sir
I would like to see this in the longer barrel of the M-1A.
Me too but we only had a few and it would fit in the magazine. I'm going to look for the ttsx 110gr or tsx 110gr for that
Yep, came apart.
Not like an eldx or an sst. There still. Something left.
Okay it is fast and carried energy. But how good is it at putting that energy on target? How about doing a target grouping?
I will at some point. It's going to be different out of every rifle. So if you're interested in that Is suggest load some up for your own rifle.
Chuck, Bravo for another good video. What is the rate of twist on your Rem. 600? A light bullet and you said it hit the center. I assume that it hit where you were aiming. I think that this Barnes bullet is more for varmits than deer considering the explosiveness and weight loss.
Still penetrated. It would work. People use it in .300 blackout all the time.
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Godspeed and good hunting my friend
Been wanting to try the 110 & 130gr Barnes in 308 & '06 for a minute now
I'll have the 130gr bullet coming out in a few weeks in .308
@@AlaskanBallistics glad to hear it Chuck. Both of those weights would shine here in AR, for the critters we hunt
Make for a great 👍 coyote bullet. From what seen only do ok in 300blk.
Interesting
Well considering this bullet is meant for under 2500fps I would say it’s not terrible at 3300 fps
Agreed
Great review!! What was the OAL? Not sure if you can say that.
I'll have to measure it again... don't let me forget
I want this in a 16in AR 10
I shoot 100g hammer bullets out of my ar10 for deer
@@kfranklin308 those are handloads? What kind of velocity you getting?
@@jeremywatson9129 yes they are. I don’t load them super hot. They average 3400-3450 with an 18” barrel.
@@kfranklin308 that's still fast for not that hot. I'm sure that would make a beast of a HD round.
Be a great 16" home defense round. I'll need to try some of those hammer hunters
Loading 1 at a time is fine. 😁
All you really need
@AlaskanBallistics
Time on target is worth it.
I like fast. Game is weak.
This is a good option for reduced recoil .308 reloads
Yes though i think the 125gr Accubond or 130gr barnes would be a little better...
@AlaskanBallistics I have loaded 125 grain BTs down to around 2700 fps/2000 ft lbs with Reloder 15 in the past. I also experimented with IMR 3031, but don't have any more of it. My favorite Grendel loads use RL15, so I have several pounds that I could experiment with. I don't know why it wouldn't work with the 110s. I do have a pile of 125 ABs, so I may take your recommendation and give those a try.
I am looking at a lightweight .308 at 4.5 lbs. I thought that reduced loads would be a good choice for the girlfriend and her daughters to use on whitetails down here.
Agreed... this 110gr tends to shed petals unevenly causing the bullet to penetrate less, so it either needs to be sub 2500fps, OR 3100+ where it will shed them all. The barnes 130gr at 2800fps should give you greatly reduced recoil as well
Just picked up 6 diffrent 308 loads to try out
Nice. What did you get?
We also filmed 180gr Norma Bondstrike, 130gr barnes ttsx vs. 125gr nosler accubond
Speer gold dot 150 grin
Hornady black 168 grain A-Max
Fiocchi 175 grain hpbt Sierra matchking
PMC 168 grain otm
Winchester m80 ball
Pmc 147 grain fmj
Ah I forgot I grabbed 2 boxes of the hoenady precision hunter 178 grain ELD-X
I'd like to see all the same components and tests, but with a hornady 110 grain V max
I'll look into at some point. I do have the new hornady 110gr cx
@AlaskanBallistics CX should be more similar to the Barnes... but I was thinking to see a more frangible bullet... like for home defense applications. I have a bunch of the 150gr gold dot rounds, but am looking to shift towards lighter weight, higher velocity and more frangible
@joshuafox3230 yeah. It will break apart for sure. . Thick guys wearing armor It may not penetrate. Eventually I'll get to that test, but I've got a lot on my plate first.
@@joshuafox3230 i have gel test uploaded of it.
I been wantin to try these in my 16” dd .308. I’ve got over 10 different handloads in .308 that all shoot and been tryin to reach 3k from 16” barrel and this is my ticket I’m bout positive…factory 130gr federal runs 28 sominthin from it so the 110 may cover that last 200fps I need…got Barnes 180ttsx with varget loaded up to try on whitetail…big 10mm fan also ands how I’ve arrived here…thanks man. Matt
Thanks Matt
I wonder how those things would do against plate armor !?!?! Do you think they will penetrate?
No. Not a chance. Check out my body armor playlist and you'll see both level 3+ steel and level IV ceramic plates stop a whole lot more. If they were solid copper at that speed or a hardcast lead in an fmj they MIGHT go through level 3+ steel plates
@@AlaskanBallistics yea I guess your right , now I just wanna see a light weight 30 cal copper bullet blast through some level 3 plate!!! I have doubts about level VI , but who knows?
@andywilson8698 i sent this bullet at over 3900 fps from a .300 win mag at a level IV. If it were a non expanding solid copper, maybe. Not an expanding bullet
Would love to see this one in a 7.62x39...lol
If they made it in 3.10 that'd be great.
I think Norma factory loads this bullet
Cool. I've not seen it though
CORRECTION: Im wrong, it's Varmagedon 110 grain , 308
Oh man
Wonder if it would feed okay in an M1A?
No we tested that. You'll have to back the powder charge down to one that gets only 3100 and back the bullet down
@@AlaskanBallistics lol, I haven’t been a reloader in about 30 years. I just buy factory bulk. For shooting fun. For “Fuck Around and Find Out (aka SHTF) I’ve been buying premium ammunition at every gun show I went to (couple of boxes at a time) for 35 years.
Did you get that 600 in Nova Scotia?
Nope never been to Canada
@@AlaskanBallistics no my uncle sold one through an online broker a couple years back. He thought it went to Alaska.
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 maybe.... my buddy picked it used at cabelas
Hmmmm 🤔 will it work in an AR-10?
If you back the powder charge an C.O.L. down...
🤔 put one in a 30/30 you can single shot it. 🤷♂️😊👍
Lol if i had a single shot rifle... sure
@@AlaskanBallistics I would shoot it in a win 94 , if it would cycle and load from the magazine then one chambered one in the mag. Two rounds thats it ...
@chrisgabbert658 for deer not bad. Not here in griz country though
@@AlaskanBallistics that’s why there’s a 44mag on my hip🤷♂️.
Just wondering in a 30/30 🤔 2600 velocity .
Why is there such a trend toward light for caliber projectiles?
Because the all copper projectiles can penetrate enough giving you speed, penetration, and more ft lbs energy.
Whereas in the past lightweight projectiles have only been in varmit bullet construction
Now we have a big game bullet in lighter weights.
Hence 130gr ttsx in my 300wby tops out stupid fast and hits like a freight train,,and exits no matter what the angle is,,,and stupid fast is yup over 3800fps
Which powder?
I was getting thirty seven eighty twith 130gr M80A1 and rl17