@@wailenhalen18 race gives info to biologists, generally, but to discriminate rather than improve equity of those races is racism, generally. People have race background, you’re wanting to disregard race altogether?
I understand the idea of "Privilege" however blaming society groups for the unfortunate is very cumbersome and not a solution whatsoever. In the contrary - many "Privilege" groups are actively trying to raise the bar with volunteering and donations. She didn't say it but her images just imply "AH yeah it's white male who are privileged". Kudos to TED who didn't disable comments on this video - I fully expected them to be.
Artificially tipping the scales to create a balance is not the answer. Inclusion by exclusion is profoundly (and ironically) damaging to everyone involved.
Privilege is rich people who have inherited millions without working a single day.not skin color. Instead of feeling sorry for yourself be an example. I'm a minority. It's embarrassing to listen to the "poor me" narratives ad nauseum
She implies that she is a victim. That society needs to change to give her a chance. She is already a lawyer. She said nothing about what she has done. Is she donating 1/2 her money to those less fortunate? It is easy to say “you” have to do something but do nothing yourself.
Philanthropy and charity are a scam by the wealthy ruling elites to not actually allow any meaningful change that would benefit the poor and workingclass
The world is an unfair place for a lot of people, regardless of race and gender. ... But if you do want to focus on race and gender... The majority of the UK and Australian population are white, so statistically, I'd expect the majority of public faces to also be white. It's also illegal to pay men and women differently for the same work, as per the Equal Pay Act. It's also very telling that she labels anyone who disagrees with her as a "troll" in order to discredit them and shut down any discourse on her extremely blinkered viewpoint.
"Free people make free choices. Free choices mean you get unequal outcomes. You can have freedom, or you can have equal outcomes. You can’t have both."
As a white man, born in a Western country, from middle class parents, I do recognise that I am having an easier life than most. I see that other friends I grew up with, of different gender and/or ethnic background, they have faced barriers I never faced. Privilege exists, and this needs to change.
"I dont mean to make anyone uncomfortable, but compare yourselves to the strangers around you and reflect on how they had it better than you." What a wonderful, constructive message. I noticed that she didn't really explain the diversity dividend besides showing the numbers and quoting a single study she didn't mention by name in the corner of the screen.
I always wondered why applying to jobs under my married name got me so many more responses than applying to jobs under my maiden name. Now I know I'm not alone.
Yes Racism and Bias exists in human nature - it's unavoidable. But if you build your whole argument around "Oh it's white male who are wrong" then it's no use. There are plenty of "White men" who like to share and aren't biased - fight the individuals who are racist, not the group. It's not like white men have a secret Telegram group where they coordinate their "bias". Jee.
Right, I think it doesn't much help to shame individuals just because they happen to be part of a group that is historically privileged. Racism and bias exist in all of us, as you say, not just those of us with privilege. That inequality of privilege exists is certainly a problem, but vilifying those who benefit from it probably won't get us to a solution. I would rather we fight the systems that permit discrimination to create inequality (for example, nepotism, like another commenter mentioned).
@@Daniel-xp4yg It's only natural to grow bias towards certain things like your family. Evidence exists even in animals... I don't say it's right, only that it's natural to be suspicious of things we don't know.
So, I clicked on this video with an open mind... however, Question 3 is a bogus question. "At some point in your life you felt that you were one of the few, or only persons, of your gender, race, faith, sexual orientation, or disability in a room in an educational or professional setting?" If we, as a society, allow a spectrum of infinite genders, then is it not entirely possible for someone of a certain gender to indeed be the only person of that specific gender? Moreover, as more and more classifications of sexual orientation 'come out,' is it not entirely possible to have fewer people of that sexual orientation? Furthermore, people with disabilities may very well be the only person in a room in an educational or professional environment with their affliction. How many disabled athletes are there in professional sports? When are we going to advocate that professional sports leagues be more inclusive of those with a desire to play, but have a disability? When shall we advocate for people with disabilities to be allowed to train for missions in space? Regarding the illustration at the 5:00 mark, how do you classify those people who have additional obstacles in life... but those obstacles were put in their life as a consequence of their own choices? I know you want to focus on race, as evidenced by the caricatures in the illustration... but if we compare two people: Person 1 was someone who studied hard in public school, focused on working/earning an income and self-betterment, whereas Person 2 was someone who didn't care so much for school, partied, and otherwise neglected some of their responsibilities. If you fast forward both lives, there is a higher likelihood that Person 1 will become more successful because they had fewer obstacles in life... because they PREVENTED those obstacles from getting in the way in the first place. Discussing privilege is a tricky and slippery slope. It becomes very easy to villify certain demographics of people because of their perceived "privileges." Eventually, there may stem a bias against demographics of people because of their perceived "privileged." You say you don't want companies to "check box" for diversity in hires. Okay. How do you propose we accomplish this? I propose that potential employees submit their work applications and resumes without their names or ethnicity listed, and allow a company to hire that person based solely off of their achievements and accomplishments. Beyond letters of recommendation, that would yield the desired result, or would at least step closer towards achieving the desired result of hiring based on merit, correct?
Well, for the purposes of discussion, some companies don't even ask for a resume. Job candidates take their various tests (skills test, personality test, etc.) and hire based on the scores. It's not a perfect system, but it moves the needle.
Well. I ever talked about this with staff of human resources in different companies in different countries. The answer is almost the same. If we conceal the identifiable information referring to bias or discrimination, just choose people by their achievements and competence, most of time the ones they haired at last would be the ones who are privileged. It is uncomfortable. But is the equality they desired?
We need to decide as a society how we want to balance equal quality of life vs maximum productivity. Hiring the best qualified individuals is generally best for productivity, but the best qualified individuals are often the most privileged, as Mariam mentions. But I disagree with the discussion of merit. Isn't merit just another form of discrimination? Let's say I am '6"5 tall (I'm not). If I practice a lot of basketball, maybe I can be a pro. I would be rewarded for my merit - all of that dedicated practice. But what if I were '5"6 tall? I could practice basketball with just as much dedication, but my chances of becoming a pro - of generating 'merit' are much, much lower. The difference between these two scenarios is not in my dedication, but in my height, which is completely outside of my control, much like race, gender, or place of birth. When we optimize for merit, we simply shift the basis by which we choose to discriminate. That said, optimizing for productivity has plenty of advantages, and while equality may not be one of them, it would be foolish not to atleast consider the losses in productivity that could occur by artificially leveling the playing field. Personally, I prefer equality over productivity, but there are real costs in either direction. TLDR: I agree with Mariam's point (that equality is a worthy goal to be pursued), but I'm not sure that accomplishing equality is simple, easy, or without cost.
I agree we focus way too much on productivity. But, companies should have the right to choose good people. If they don't care that's fine too. My problem is the way all society focuses on 12 years of schooling followed by 5 years of university then years of grinding and training at a job. It's not how life should be, people really have been fooled. They need to smoke a joint and listen carefully to stairway to heaven.
Maybe those people at the top worked to get there and has nothing to do with bias? Maybe they were born rich or had the right genes. Too many assumptions in this talk.
So much more convenient and easier to dismiss those who don't reaffirm your world view. "Collective shame is not guilt", and accepting flaws is how growth happens. Accepting reality can't be convenient. Amazing how freedom and open-mindedness is claimed by people who have to always be right.
Every time I see a happy family where people love and support each other, I think: “That’s a privilege.” The rest is BS. Didn’t bother to see the video.
I don't know at times I didn't know how to answer it and other times I wanted to sit and other times I wanted to stand and no that's not my bipolar with ups and downs
Privelege exists in western society. And most with privelege will come out swinging that either #1 privelege does not exist or #2 its all about race. Sadly theybare unwillingly to admit that it exists. As a 60 year old white male in a western country I do know that I was priveleged and that it benefited me greatly.
She's one of the most privileged people who have ever lived. Essentially, she wants the government to not only discriminate but force the public to enforce this discrimination.
I agree that merit is not the main way to progress but by far "who you know" was, is and will remain the fastest way to progress. But definetely these social warriors won't touch the subject because they succedeed due to it too.
Utter nonsense, unequal outcomes are the stuff of life. And what motivates. This speaker wants to kill the motivation of those who would benefit the most from a shot in the arm are a kick in the butt to climb higher. Sad, that this nonsensical viewpoint is so common, and so detrimental to those who are taken in by it. Let's hope this woman gets a clue and those who hear her have the sense to move on, start from where they are and go get whatever it is inspires them.
Look at the demographic of lawyers. You don't fit the 'norm'. She wasn't intentionally being rude. You just took offence as everyone seems to now days. Instead of complaining you should be grateful that you are the change. Australia is changing... it takes time.
Thank you TED for this wonderful video - more people need to see and understand it. But unfortunately, because of lack of awareness of unconscious biases, few will...
Because no one wants to admit that they might have benefited from anything they didn't actively do for themselves especially not something that was 9/10 completely passively occurring without their awareness.
As soon as I saw the title, I predicted a huge downvote ratio probably largely by conservatives, people in the center who've been swayed by right-wing talking points and rising anti-woke mentalities, and people who downvoted without watching the video. People don't like being told they have privilege, don't understand that there are different categories (i.e., being white or having white privilege doesn't mean you're guaranteed to be wealthy and successful or to have a comfy childhood, and it doesn't mean that you didn't earn everything you own), and often don't understand what's meant by the term privilege.
Not in the US, although they're likely above Muslims and atheists in terms of facing less discrimination than those groups. Christians are the privileged religious group in the US, with local areas favoring certain kinds of Christianity but generally accepting Christians overall above other groups. There is a significant amount of anti-Semitism in the US that seems more prevalent in certain circles, although I'm not sure which.
Success is entirely based on luck, so hoping to deal with any of this is insanity. Maybe in a different world, world without scarcity, but current: no way.
Thanks for the corrections. Nonetheless, I would like to appreciate the speaker for standing up and sharing her experience as a minority. We are humans and we do mistakes. No one knows everything. So, some minor mistakes should be forgivable. 😊
In the race to get vital resources that are becoming scarcer, you unconsciously "choose" teams that accept you (because of common traits, sometimes transformed in identity parts/ego "crutches") and try to belong to the winning/surviving teams. And it's worsening because capitalism applied to almost everything, divide us in more numerous and smaller groups in a competition more difficult each year.
And I would like to add that the concept of hierarchy that imply that some (group of) people have more value than others is not helping to deal peacefully with political issues.
Teach the people to focus on race and change their behavior because of that observation. Got it.
Any people in power may elect by affinity bias. Representation is required for better merit.
There’s complexity of truth to the extent for merit by representation.
Some smart people are disregarded due to race, so focus on their merit of smart, and their representation of race. Better analysis, simply.
I thought it's racist to focus on their race and it's better to treat them as a person? This is all confusing.
@@wailenhalen18 race gives info to biologists, generally, but to discriminate rather than improve equity of those races is racism, generally. People have race background, you’re wanting to disregard race altogether?
I understand the idea of "Privilege" however blaming society groups for the unfortunate is very cumbersome and not a solution whatsoever.
In the contrary - many "Privilege" groups are actively trying to raise the bar with volunteering and donations.
She didn't say it but her images just imply "AH yeah it's white male who are privileged".
Kudos to TED who didn't disable comments on this video - I fully expected them to be.
Artificially tipping the scales to create a balance is not the answer. Inclusion by exclusion is profoundly (and ironically) damaging to everyone involved.
Privilege is rich people who have inherited millions without working a single day.not skin color. Instead of feeling sorry for yourself be an example. I'm a minority. It's embarrassing to listen to the "poor me" narratives ad nauseum
She implies that she is a victim. That society needs to change to give her a chance. She is already a lawyer. She said nothing about what she has done. Is she donating 1/2 her money to those less fortunate? It is easy to say “you” have to do something but do nothing yourself.
Traditional women benefit from feminist laws and don't lobby for change, making them defacto feminists.....confirmed.
Philanthropy and charity are a scam by the wealthy ruling elites to not actually allow any meaningful change that would benefit the poor and workingclass
She’s given this Ted talk, thank you for your comment.
Yes, the whole speech is biased towards self-victimization.
@@santanuborah no it isn't
The world is an unfair place for a lot of people, regardless of race and gender.
... But if you do want to focus on race and gender... The majority of the UK and Australian population are white, so statistically, I'd expect the majority of public faces to also be white.
It's also illegal to pay men and women differently for the same work, as per the Equal Pay Act.
It's also very telling that she labels anyone who disagrees with her as a "troll" in order to discredit them and shut down any discourse on her extremely blinkered viewpoint.
Everything you want is within you, the strength,the patience and the courage to change your life. You just have to look within and find it....
"Free people make free choices. Free choices mean you get unequal outcomes.
You can have freedom, or you can have equal outcomes. You can’t have both."
If you live in north America regardless of skin colour. You're super privileged.
No, other groups just need to step up.
Not really. 🙄
Veteran here. I fought for your right to work and make your own happiness, no matter your race, gender, whatever...
kill any civilians?
@@Fnidner no it was mostly commies doing that
As a white man, born in a Western country, from middle class parents, I do recognise that I am having an easier life than most. I see that other friends I grew up with, of different gender and/or ethnic background, they have faced barriers I never faced. Privilege exists, and this needs to change.
"I dont mean to make anyone uncomfortable, but compare yourselves to the strangers around you and reflect on how they had it better than you." What a wonderful, constructive message. I noticed that she didn't really explain the diversity dividend besides showing the numbers and quoting a single study she didn't mention by name in the corner of the screen.
How to recognize CRT prejudices.
I always wondered why applying to jobs under my married name got me so many more responses than applying to jobs under my maiden name. Now I know I'm not alone.
Yes Racism and Bias exists in human nature - it's unavoidable.
But if you build your whole argument around "Oh it's white male who are wrong" then it's no use.
There are plenty of "White men" who like to share and aren't biased - fight the individuals who are racist, not the group.
It's not like white men have a secret Telegram group where they coordinate their "bias". Jee.
Right, I think it doesn't much help to shame individuals just because they happen to be part of a group that is historically privileged. Racism and bias exist in all of us, as you say, not just those of us with privilege. That inequality of privilege exists is certainly a problem, but vilifying those who benefit from it probably won't get us to a solution. I would rather we fight the systems that permit discrimination to create inequality (for example, nepotism, like another commenter mentioned).
@@efbland1 Who were historically privileged?
The world was a mess in the last 500 years...
it is not natural to be racist, saying that is racist
@@Daniel-xp4yg It's only natural to grow bias towards certain things like your family.
Evidence exists even in animals...
I don't say it's right, only that it's natural to be suspicious of things we don't know.
@Daniel Tribalism is an evolutionary trait found in all humans.
Most claims of racism are really tribalism.
So, I clicked on this video with an open mind... however, Question 3 is a bogus question. "At some point in your life you felt that you were one of the few, or only persons, of your gender, race, faith, sexual orientation, or disability in a room in an educational or professional setting?" If we, as a society, allow a spectrum of infinite genders, then is it not entirely possible for someone of a certain gender to indeed be the only person of that specific gender? Moreover, as more and more classifications of sexual orientation 'come out,' is it not entirely possible to have fewer people of that sexual orientation? Furthermore, people with disabilities may very well be the only person in a room in an educational or professional environment with their affliction. How many disabled athletes are there in professional sports? When are we going to advocate that professional sports leagues be more inclusive of those with a desire to play, but have a disability? When shall we advocate for people with disabilities to be allowed to train for missions in space?
Regarding the illustration at the 5:00 mark, how do you classify those people who have additional obstacles in life... but those obstacles were put in their life as a consequence of their own choices? I know you want to focus on race, as evidenced by the caricatures in the illustration... but if we compare two people: Person 1 was someone who studied hard in public school, focused on working/earning an income and self-betterment, whereas Person 2 was someone who didn't care so much for school, partied, and otherwise neglected some of their responsibilities. If you fast forward both lives, there is a higher likelihood that Person 1 will become more successful because they had fewer obstacles in life... because they PREVENTED those obstacles from getting in the way in the first place.
Discussing privilege is a tricky and slippery slope. It becomes very easy to villify certain demographics of people because of their perceived "privileges." Eventually, there may stem a bias against demographics of people because of their perceived "privileged."
You say you don't want companies to "check box" for diversity in hires. Okay. How do you propose we accomplish this? I propose that potential employees submit their work applications and resumes without their names or ethnicity listed, and allow a company to hire that person based solely off of their achievements and accomplishments. Beyond letters of recommendation, that would yield the desired result, or would at least step closer towards achieving the desired result of hiring based on merit, correct?
Well, for the purposes of discussion, some companies don't even ask for a resume. Job candidates take their various tests (skills test, personality test, etc.) and hire based on the scores. It's not a perfect system, but it moves the needle.
@@janningc That sounds like a neat idea.
Well. I ever talked about this with staff of human resources in different companies in different countries. The answer is almost the same. If we conceal the identifiable information referring to bias or discrimination, just choose people by their achievements and competence, most of time the ones they haired at last would be the ones who are privileged. It is uncomfortable. But is the equality they desired?
We need to decide as a society how we want to balance equal quality of life vs maximum productivity. Hiring the best qualified individuals is generally best for productivity, but the best qualified individuals are often the most privileged, as Mariam mentions.
But I disagree with the discussion of merit. Isn't merit just another form of discrimination? Let's say I am '6"5 tall (I'm not). If I practice a lot of basketball, maybe I can be a pro. I would be rewarded for my merit - all of that dedicated practice. But what if I were '5"6 tall? I could practice basketball with just as much dedication, but my chances of becoming a pro - of generating 'merit' are much, much lower.
The difference between these two scenarios is not in my dedication, but in my height, which is completely outside of my control, much like race, gender, or place of birth. When we optimize for merit, we simply shift the basis by which we choose to discriminate.
That said, optimizing for productivity has plenty of advantages, and while equality may not be one of them, it would be foolish not to atleast consider the losses in productivity that could occur by artificially leveling the playing field. Personally, I prefer equality over productivity, but there are real costs in either direction.
TLDR: I agree with Mariam's point (that equality is a worthy goal to be pursued), but I'm not sure that accomplishing equality is simple, easy, or without cost.
I agree we focus way too much on productivity. But, companies should have the right to choose good people. If they don't care that's fine too.
My problem is the way all society focuses on 12 years of schooling followed by 5 years of university then years of grinding and training at a job. It's not how life should be, people really have been fooled. They need to smoke a joint and listen carefully to stairway to heaven.
She isn't talking about equality. She's talking about equal outcomes. Equal outcomes demands discrimination that lowers all standards.
Maybe those people at the top worked to get there and has nothing to do with bias? Maybe they were born rich or had the right genes. Too many assumptions in this talk.
She is essentially talking about privilege, not just bias. If they were ‘born rich’ that would clearly be a privilege.
The whole American government is privileged
Yep and that's an understatement.
So much more convenient and easier to dismiss those who don't reaffirm your world view. "Collective shame is not guilt", and accepting flaws is how growth happens. Accepting reality can't be convenient. Amazing how freedom and open-mindedness is claimed by people who have to always be right.
Every time I see a happy family where people love and support each other, I think: “That’s a privilege.” The rest is BS. Didn’t bother to see the video.
At least you're honest. It's always surprising to see white people get so offended at academic study on racial biases.
@@imorokr well there were no academic studies presented, just opinions
When you need to be taught the obvious, you're in trouble if you don't learn it.
I don't know at times I didn't know how to answer it and other times I wanted to sit and other times I wanted to stand and no that's not my bipolar with ups and downs
_Great coverage._ 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Privelege exists in western society. And most with privelege will come out swinging that either #1 privelege does not exist or #2 its all about race. Sadly theybare unwillingly to admit that it exists. As a 60 year old white male in a western country I do know that I was priveleged and that it benefited me greatly.
Very mature and well rounded it is loud and clear
She's one of the most privileged people who have ever lived.
Essentially, she wants the government to not only discriminate but force the public to enforce this discrimination.
In her own words, "Those who have the most amounts of privilege, they probably not entirely conscious of it".
The irony is that she is one of them.
She does say she is and that she accepts her own form of privilege.
thanks a lot for suibtable❤❤
great idea
What hard science backs that up?
Honestly a good way to fight privilege is to put in a law against nepotism.
😂😂😂
Affirmative Action for women and coloreds is a thing
So, get rid of affirmative action?
@@thebigdawgj
We're working on it, yes.
@@thebigdawgj yeah, its a racist policy
It's no one's fault... they just need to be re educated!
I agree that merit is not the main way to progress but by far "who you know" was, is and will remain the fastest way to progress. But definetely these social warriors won't touch the subject because they succedeed due to it too.
Very mature and well-rounded comment section, everyone, great work
The title = this video
Utter nonsense, unequal outcomes are the stuff of life. And what motivates. This speaker wants to kill the motivation of those who would benefit the most from a shot in the arm are a kick in the butt to climb higher.
Sad, that this nonsensical viewpoint is so common, and so detrimental to those who are taken in by it. Let's hope this woman gets a clue and those who hear her have the sense to move on, start from where they are and go get whatever it is inspires them.
Yeah i digging it
Look at the demographic of lawyers. You don't fit the 'norm'. She wasn't intentionally being rude. You just took offence as everyone seems to now days. Instead of complaining you should be grateful that you are the change. Australia is changing... it takes time.
Ted talks is a privilege.
Thank you TED for this wonderful video - more people need to see and understand it. But unfortunately, because of lack of awareness of unconscious biases, few will...
I agree that people lack awareness.
See "Jay Tse".
Word 🦁🦁🦁😤
I thought this was great and informative and a little ironic that one of her last quotes on the definition of insantiy was from a white male.
I don't see any problem with what she's saying. Why the dislikes?
Because no one wants to admit that they might have benefited from anything they didn't actively do for themselves especially not something that was 9/10 completely passively occurring without their awareness.
Wow, what a timely TED talk. I was just ruminating on this topic
As soon as I saw the title, I predicted a huge downvote ratio probably largely by conservatives, people in the center who've been swayed by right-wing talking points and rising anti-woke mentalities, and people who downvoted without watching the video. People don't like being told they have privilege, don't understand that there are different categories (i.e., being white or having white privilege doesn't mean you're guaranteed to be wealthy and successful or to have a comfy childhood, and it doesn't mean that you didn't earn everything you own), and often don't understand what's meant by the term privilege.
Would you say that there is something like jewish privilege?
Not in the US, although they're likely above Muslims and atheists in terms of facing less discrimination than those groups. Christians are the privileged religious group in the US, with local areas favoring certain kinds of Christianity but generally accepting Christians overall above other groups. There is a significant amount of anti-Semitism in the US that seems more prevalent in certain circles, although I'm not sure which.
You know it's gonna be a good one when the living descendants of colonizers are offended before they've even seen the video. 😂
Success is entirely based on luck, so hoping to deal with any of this is insanity. Maybe in a different world, world without scarcity, but current: no way.
Perfect
This is beautifully said and I'm so glad I'll be using this for a school lesson!
Great talk....🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for the corrections.
Nonetheless, I would like to appreciate the speaker for standing up and sharing her experience as a minority. We are humans and we do mistakes. No one knows everything. So, some minor mistakes should be forgivable.
😊
@@nima.shokouhfar
"Give me Affirmative Action money or I'll sue, white man."
Go woke go broke 😅 trump 2024
i got the 42nd like!
In the race to get vital resources that are becoming scarcer, you unconsciously "choose" teams that accept you (because of common traits, sometimes transformed in identity parts/ego "crutches") and try to belong to the winning/surviving teams. And it's worsening because capitalism applied to almost everything, divide us in more numerous and smaller groups in a competition more difficult each year.
And I would like to add that the concept of hierarchy that imply that some (group of) people have more value than others is not helping to deal peacefully with political issues.
That's one of the dumpest things said in this entire comment section