Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Movie Review (Spoilers)
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- WARNING: This video contains spoilers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Watch our review of ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ directed by Rian Johnson and starring Daisy Ridley, Andy Serkis, Gwendoline Christie, Domhnall Gleeson, Mark Hamill, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Laura Dern and Kelly Marie Tran comes out on December 15th. So much happened in ‘The Last Jedi’ that challenged, changed and altered the course of the franchise. Jedi Council’s Kristian Harloff, Ken Napzok, Perri Nemiroff and Mark Reilly are here to give you their SPOILER filled review of the movie. They give you their unfiltered and thorough thoughts on all the story’s twists and turns, the new and retruning characters, the new planets and environments that our heroes and villains existed in and what we can expect to see in Episode IX. Also, they let you know if this is a worthy next installment in the ‘Star Wars’ franchise.
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Red Letter Media wasn't exaggerating... very cool
Yes they do. Pack of liars who are NOT FANS in any way.
@@CaptainSpalding72 Tru fans swallow every last drip of the sweet SW sauce. They take the cumshot of shame.
@@vertigo7082 very cool
VERY cool
@@CaptainSpalding72 i have heard of them a lot. couldnt get through an episode of theirs. waaaay over the top obnoxious dudes. haha
These are hilarious now after watching Red Letter Media
I knoow😂😂
I hate the last jedi hahaha
Right! Just watched the nerd crew "spoiler" review and it made this so funny!
It almost seems like collider is actually parodying nerd crew. Lmak
Very cool
No mention of Luke Skywalker giving a wink to C-3PO. It's a beautiful moment that is very overlooked and it reaffirms that Luke is the only one who has ever been nice to C-3PO and treats him like a person.
Andrew Gordon Facts✔️✔️✔️
Andrew Gordon Leia os pretty nice to 3P0 too, but I agree it was a great moment.
Andrew Gordon loved that moment
He was also winking that he wasn’t really there. 3PO probably knew it wasn’t really Skywalker.
Bikejonze That was my interpretation of the wink also. It makes sense, being that 3PO is a droid, that he would be able to tell that Luke wasn't physically there and I think Luke was trying to both tell 3PO to keep that information to himself, as well as letting him know that he hasn't forgotten him.
The nerd crew of red letter media did it better.
First time viewer on this channel, I'm less than 5 minutes in and I'm, like, *OH MY GAAAAAWWWD!!!!*
RLM have you guys off *Perfectly* AND they do it Better than you even though they're ripping the piss!
There are moments, whilst I've been composing this comment, when the obsequious toadying to Disney that's come outa your mouths has actually made me cringe with embarrassment. I don't think I'll be subbing this channel but I'll *definitely* be back to compare you against Nerd Crew . . . Damn, they NAILED you!
On a slightly darker note:
Soooooo, which one of you is Rich Evans? Wanna share a Droid moment with us?
Its crazy how RLM nails this shills so accurately .
Amazing, Every word of what you just said was wrong.
@@aabarber9 oh no you fell for it
Holy shit i thought RLM were exaggerating
No one cares that you watch a shitty youtube channel
@@legotech101 The fucks your deal
@@legotech101 RLM > Collider
Inspiration is mostly perspiration.
Me too
Me personally, I LOVED this film.
I LOVE STAR WARS!
@@fantastickfrank8552 speak closer into the mic good sir, they're gonna REPLACE us.
@@Clenched.Cheeks Replace us? But I'm a guy who talks about movies on the internet. Who could possibly do what I do? HAVE I MENTIONED I LOVE STAR WARS!?
Can someone explain me which one is the parody RLM or this ? I cannot tell
Sorry guys, lost me at: "every bit worked" ... come on guys ... for god sakes.
Any movie reviewer Disney invited to the red carpet world premiere has to be a little more lenient on the reviews they make. Especially if they ever want to be invited to the next world premiere. And it's worth mentioning that even though a lot of people ( not you ) are blaming Rian Johnson for this movie, I can not forget that Kathleen Kennedy gave the green light to all of this.
I think you're being a little unfair. Me personally, I love this film.
That maz scene was the most awkward unfunny things I've ever scene. Did not land at all in the theater.
How can that scene suppose to be funny?
I actually did not mind this scene.. so many other problems
This is borderline self parody
Fitting because that's what Last Jedi was. It's Rian Johnson's M.O. and always has been. He takes something and bordeline parodies it.
@@BarbaPamino that's fine with me man. Anything is better than the committee :)
@@nchap2023 nah TROS was better for the sheer little bit of shade and the shots it took when Luke fucking basically Deadpooled with the saber god everyone laughed he should have looked at the camera and fucking winked
I think Maz Kantaa was playing call of duty in the last Jedi wtf??
Damien Howard or laser tag... or battlefront
Let’s make a petition to put maz in battlefront 2
Maz was doing mocap for maz new character in battlefront 2 ans then got locked behind loot boxes.
Damien Howard she was pissed because now her scene with rey in TFA (and the entire movie for that matter) makes zero fucking sense, because reys parents were apparently crackheads that sold her for money? Wow what a complete fuck up. Other than that and a few other minor things I actually liked it
Dave Woloschak It doesn't mess that scene up at all. Did you even watch the movies? She only said to Rey her parents are never coming back.
Great review. Me, personally, I loved this film. Would have liked to hear you go into a bit more depth about the vistas.
very cool
very very coooool
Honestly, I think this movie's pretty mediocre. It has its high points for sure, but it also has its low points.
@@masterpenguin8472 very cool
I’ve got a slightly used Death Star Popcorn Machine if you’d like to purchase
After watching all of RLM’s Nerd Crew vids, I finally came here today and I’m laughing my ass off. These guys actually exist! Very cool.
AT STs ! AT STs ! AT STs ! STAAAAAR DESTROOYEEEERS ! I'M GONNA CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM !
Invincible Nightmare I know what that is.
It broke new ground!!!!
Look, a bunch of fat autistic nerds trying to call collider a bunch of nerds.
SWANNY, correction, we’re a bunch of fat, autistic nerds calling Collider shills. An understanding of pop culture doesn’t make someone a nerd
ooooh your hard, calling people fat and autistic, well done, heres your gold star
I literally just saw movie 20 min ago.....idk what to think, all I know is my heart hurts
Rose Arnold i think it was honestly pretty incredible. Only problem is I have NO IDEA what they can even do next. They could of ended the entire saga on this one.
same
WeepyProphet I honestly agree! I think e movie is incredible I think so much happened though that it's very hard to process it all
Rose Arnold couldn’t agree more
Saw this movie an hour or two ago and yeah. It's the first time I walked away from a star wars movie in absolute silence.
And for the record, I hated the Leia flying moment. It felt completely out of place in star wars. And undercut the impact that losing her would have had on the resistance.
ALL the humor landed? i don't know... "mama" jokes in star wars is a bit of a stretch
Is it really? This is the same series where Jar Jar steps in poop and gets fared on by a space creature.
Luke Zylik you're right. TLJ needed more poop and fart jokes.
Luke Zylik poop and fart jokes are at least timeless and universal; they're likely even the first jokes, as a matter of fact. "Yo mama" jokes are decidedly more contemporary and particularly douchey. Oh well. Movie was a passably entertaining time but that shit was weak and juvenile as fuck. Move along, move along.
"that shit was weak and juvenile as fuck"
Spoken as if you were a juvenile.
The humor landed about as well as a skydiver without a parachute
You will love anything labeled Star Wars won't you? My god. This is horrifying.
@@trevorthornley8835 one of them literally identifies as a prequeler lol
Prequels are amazing. They're so bad it's good.
@@vario6492 hey Jo, i gotta be honest man, when im russian out the door to work, i have no time for stalin
Is collider own by Disney, because it feels like they're not allowed to give negative reviews on anything Disney does. Dis movie is a 6 out of 10 at best.
Well me personally I loved this film, best Star Wars film I've ever seen.
@@stoicvampirepig6063 you’re insane
Rose and Finn has no chemistry whatsoever..haha. That kiss was so cringe worthy.
The kiss wasn't their only scene together though, and while I also didn't like it I personally felt a lot of chemistry in other scenes.
Greg Shedd yeah but not romantic chemistry it was so forced that whole fight for love line was cheesy
Lloyd Llaneta ikr it actually made me mad maybe it's because I'm a Rey and finn shipper but still😭
Angry Witch yeah I totally agree with that I think the whole thing was rushed but there was definitely chemistry there it’s just kind of wasted because of how poor some of those scenes/lines are.
preach
The end when Rose crashes into Finn to "save" him was hilarious, all she did was ensure their doom. If Luke and Rey hadn't shown up
"It's OK to be passionate, not OK to be a bully." Sounds like someone's upset RLM is making fun of 40 year old men losing sleep over crappy Star Wars movies.
Satisfied with snoke? Seriously?
yeah it does not make any sense, especially when we have heard them on Jedi council talking constantly about Snoke of who he is, how long he has been around, what role etc etc. They go against there own talking points here, which is way people are calling bullshit on this. Sad.
I liked how they handled snoke, he was honestly just an emperor clone. How they handled holdo and rose were bad though.
Satisfied by a check deposit
@@user-ro6bt4fy2t well he certainly was a clone 🙄
Mark Hamill & Adam Driver acting in TLJ was off the charts at times.
They were the standouts for me
Yeah so bad.
Yeah so bad.
darth wint Fantastic! Luke was amazing and Ren is a better and darker villain then he was in Force Awakens.
I think entire cast was fantastic. But yeah, Mark and Adam were just holy damn. Seriously, their performances was one of the best in Star Wars overall, and it's saying a lot for the franchise that had so many brilliant actors. I hope we see Mark in lot more movies now (out of SW I mean), he deserves it so much.
"Our editorial content is not influenced by any commissions we receive." dont believe you :-)
Do they literally lie so blatantly? That’s one big check or a serious team of lawyers behind that nda
I didn't hate it, didn't love it... it's wierd, I feel like I should see it again, but I don't really want to
Same exact feeling
Lol. Yeah I'm kind of the opposite, I can't tell if I love it or hate it
This is how I feel the day after. There were some amazing shots and sequences but I not sure if I've bought into the new characters enough to be hyped for IX. Rian killed too much of the OT.
Exactly how I feel. It just felt kinda uneventful.
I'd watch it again, but I'm poor :(
1:17 the absolutely soulless way he says "i love star wars" my god
redlettermedia is absolutely correct lOL
very cool
110%, me personally - I love your comment.
Geordi La Forge I understand that but Me personally....I also loved his comment.
Playne Monty that is so cool, very cool.
RIP Admiral Ackbar😭🙏
I wonder what epitaph will appear on his tombstone?
Bilge Khan it's a trap!
Didnt niem numb die as well?
Right!! They did away with him like it was nothing
mk6rfc1 he didn’t
Leia Poppins y'all.
Jaymz Ruggiere thought the same thing. Or superman fighting doomsday
Internet comment of the day!
😂😂😂 you win
The memes are already out there. 😂
"What did you think"
"I love star wars"
Earn that paycheck man
Much like Luke did with his lightsaber, Rian Johnson took all our expectations and threw them out the window, and mostly succeded. It will be VERY divisive with fans, I know it.
It already is. People on Twitter are panning while others are praising. I really enjoyed it but definitely need to see it again! Surprising how people complain TFA was TOO similar and want something different and when we get it, they complain it was TOO different
First time I saw it I really liked it, after the second time, it's hands down masterpiece. It needs to be seen more than once. I heard ESB was to devisive among fanbase initially, but it changed in next months/years. The same will happen with TLJ.
Natalia Kępa Going again tomorrow night and Saturday as well. I’m looking forward to see how vast it changes for me. Lots of people are saying the same thing as you and Kristian are saying
Agreed but I think time will serve this film well where that was the complete opposite for TFA
I have serious mixed feelings. I don’t like how Luke was handled and I thought Snoke could’ve been handled better as well. Ugh, not sure where they go from here, but I’m definitely sad Luke is gone. I realize he can come back as a Force ghost, but it won’t be the same...
this is pure comedy how you know their exact reaction before you even see it
Snoke is just as horrible a villain as Steppenwolf in Justice League. Pointless, no reason to be there, no backstory, and just there to be some powerful guy to kill at the end. What a waste.
Disney will make money out of Snokes backstory..just wait for the books, comics, games...or maybe just maybe we will get more info on him in ep9
the whole first order fleet not being able to catch up to the resistance fleet was like something out of spaceballs.
facts? it's a movie. it's all made up.
SPACE LASERSSSS
maybe i forgot..but why the first order didnt destroy the resistance fleet?? they can track them thru hyperspace...just kill it..right??
that and the fact that they dont launch their own bombers.
iRanger Think you need to pull you head out of Disney’s ass, the whole can’t catch the rebels 4 ships was just plain stupid!!!
1 Why did they just not realise a 1000 tie fighter and bombers, they had just crippled Leia cruiser with just Kylo Ren’s tie silencer and 2 normal tie fighters, they could have wiped them out in seconds if they had released all their 1000’s of fighters etc
2 why did they not hyper jump a couple of star destroyers just ahead and have them head towards the 4 rebels ships so they were just caught between them
3 The whole just 4 rebel ships left is utterly pathetic......by the end of the film the whole resistance is just around a dozen people who can fit on the millennium falcon..........what a poor result from ROTJ when they had a massive fleet, Disney just wants them to be the under dog again and fight the nasty new empire and ignore all the law and common sense, hope Disney just leave Star Wars alone as they are just fucking it up
Cool cool, very cool.
Very cool
very cool
👏👏👏👏👏
Voy cooauge
he literally threw his fathers lightsaber over the cliff ...the same father he risked everything to redeem doesn't work for me at all.
30 years is a long time. Stuff is just stuff sometimes. Luke cared more about Vader's redemption that some lightsaber. Come back when you're an adult with a macro-view of the world.
Lemonsic Ade He redeemed his father a long time ago. Also Vader had long constructed a new one as a Sith and Luke as a Jedi.
The Driver so since his view disagrees with yours it's immature?
And he saw students who he was personally responsible for murdered and the his own nephew turn to the dark side. Of course he tossed the lightsaber away he wanted nothing to do with it, or he jedi? Do you not get it? Can you not comprehend the film?
So Anakins lightsaber calls out to Rey and in return gets thrown off a cliff and later broken ..... bet it regrets that decision now
I’ve watched 3 minuets of this video and I’m questioning if they have watched to same movie
Wolf Kenton theu obviously understood the movie better then most fan boys who just want to hate everything. if this was a rehash yyou would bitch if they made luke great you bitch i am so sick of the hate everything fan boys
@@gdavis such a great point. Fans are getting more entitled these days. They could be admiring the beautiful vistas and familiar space ships modern day star wars has to offer!
What movie did they watch
There forced to drink the Disney koolaid
Disney put guns on their heads
Soul plane ✈️
Exactly. A bunch of shills. Collider lost all credibility after this.
Well I mean why can't other people enjoy the movie? You didn't like it. Okay, don't watch it ever again. Problem solved
how did you feel about this moment Mark? It landed with me. How did you feel about that moment Mark? It landed with me.What did you think about humour in this movie Mark? It landed with me.
He liked it, he’s allowed to. There is no reason why he can’t
He's a blind fanboy.
Me and my wife just watched it ... And we both said the same thing after ... We felt so weird after.. It didn't feel like Star wars to us. It was to many not funny jokes. It did not have that stars look to it in some parts.. It felt cheap looking .it should have kept that look of the force awakens polished look. That casino part was so stupid! Some parts felt like a SNL skit or like That old school movie SPACE BALLS ! I'm so confused on if I like this movie.🙄
J1thatsme 100 That sums it up for me. There were some good parts but it didn’t feel like Star Wars. Too many jokey moments. Too much focus on “animals”.
I just don’t know about this movie.
It sucked. I felt like I was watching a parody, and I’m thinking that’s what is actually is. It’s been a while since I felt this feeling of watching a sucky Star Wars movie. It was a 6/10 for me. And that’s a generous score.
Especially that Luke-Kylo fight... Looked fake. The shots weren't right and the fucking slow-mo, matrix-like limbo from Luke???? C'mon man...
Non of the characters from the force awakens got better for me. Snoke was a complete waste of time, as was phasma. Heck, the original trilogy was a waste of time because Luke looked so weak and was regretful of everything that happened in the old films. I felt like watching those was a waste to the story too...
You're not confused, you're feeling the pressure to call this movie anything but what it was: A mediocre, forgettable, structurally bad, Disney-fied wannabe Star Wars movie. The greatest thing about this movie is that it made all the others (including the prequels!) look terrific.
This film felt like the 3rd movie in the trilogy, not the second. It felt like the story ended and everything I was interested in wrapped up and nothing left to look forward to.
Exactly! Snoke being defeated & Luke passing on into the Force - that is Ep 9 stuff! Why the bloody hell did this happen NOW!? There's nothing left for Ep 9 to do!
How about the idea that we get a third film in which we see what Vader (Kylo) would do without the emperor (Snoke) telling him what to do? Pretty cool imo.
Exactly
I agree biggest dislike about the movie was well forget about TFA or cleaning the slate in 9 let’s do it now.... lots to like lots to not like as well
l post maybe if Kyle was half the villain Vader was he’s not he is a mad teenager still. I don’t see how he can run a government....
Rian Johnson has accomplished what George Lucas could not. He made the prequels look good.
Tungus Grump Lol
by "normal people" do you mean retards?
Anton V No I am talking about just normal people.
Tungus Grump: this movie is not as worse as the prequels.
😂
I’m a huge Star Wars fan. And it’s difficult to say this but I didn’t like this movie. Luke skywalkers story was beyond disappointing no confrontation with snoke having essentially stolen his nephew. Way more problems to talk about then can be put on a post but overall I’m extremely concerned Lucas film greenlit another trilogy by this director.
^^^
I didn't agree with the whole Luke attempting to murder his own nephew, as I could never see Luke Skywalker ever doing something like this, BUT it wasn't snoke that took kylo away at that point. It was Luke himself.
In my 2nd viewing, I liked how the telegraph in dialogue was contradicted in the events of the movie, "the force isn't about lifting rocks" -Rey has to lift rocks. "What do you expect me to do? Go out with a laser sword and face down the entire First Order?" -goes out with a laser sword and faces down the First Order... :D
Josh Diffey 😂
I noticed the one with the rocks first time ... yeah, makes it even funnier but awesome at the time. I mean some people appear not to like that humour. Luke brushing dust off his jacket, and the First Order guy asking Kylo if he's sure he got him. But I thought it was great. Didn't make that scene or the reveal of how he did it any less amazing.
Ok I retract the troll accusation, as it's clear from your reply you care about Star Wars as much as I do. I just felt this is was a GOOD movie compared to where the series had gone before the new films. It just seems to me almost nit picking to worry about some of these continuity issues, when we've got another great Star Wars movie (2 actually, though TFA I don't score quite so high due being somewhat derivative). Yeah maybe it wasnt the exact identical powers being used. But it's the Force, the energy field that binds the galaxy together, incomparable with the power to destroy a planet. You want to split hairs on how to limit it? Fine, if that's how you roll. I just think it'sa pity so many fans are beating themselves up over these kind of things.
“I came to this island to die.” Luke died on the island.
“This is not going to end the way you think.” Luke talking to the audience regarding their story expectations.
I thought that was pretty obvious that that was intentional
Rose in my opinion has zero importance to the movie you could remove her and the entire casino sequence by having Admiral Amilyn Holdo just tell poe her plan with the transporters. Also if finn had sacrificed himself i would've been satisfied but rose coming in and "saving" him was BS she's like this is how we win bitch just wanted to kiss him and that kiss was so forced.
Ian Hathaway I actually enjoyed it bc at first I thought it would go as they planned. I enjoyed how they set up a plan that could easily save them but failed and all hope seemed lost. They seemed doomed to die there. Sure side plot could be different but the message would still be the same.
I agree. Holdo's character pissed me off so much. There is no reason why she shouldn't have told Poe her plan. He (and everyone on board) had the right to know. They were all about to DIE... and yeah, Rose saving Finn at the end ruined that entire moment.
Your opinion sucks dude.
+Ian Hathaway, that's because you are not in a position of leadership, or in the military. Poe is a subordinate, and not her direct report. She owes him exactly NOTHING, as far as high level explanations. His relationship to the Vice Admiral is "Do What You Say". She should have asked him "What rank are you, and Why are you speaking directly to me?"
Nitpicks
Red Letter Media comments sent me here. OH MY GAWDDDDDD!!!
Wow this film is been pretty polarizing with the hardcore Star Wars fans.
it will be. In my opinion this movie takes Star Wars and destroys preconceptions. It was the big running them of the movie, "let go of the past". Change will cause this. from Luke throwing away his lightsaber when handed it to Rey, to Leia pulling her self from OUTER SPACE back to the ship through the force, to the real story of how Ben turned, to he Death of Snoke, to Yoda, to Luke showing up. It shows great beats of what makes Star Wars well Star Wars but then it twists a bit and that will confuse people and/or turn them away
Naurto56894 people are resistant to change. I don’t know, if TLJ followed the original trilogy formula those same people would be complaining about fan service and pandering
hey other trevor :) they would be shouting "do something different!" then they do something different "I hate this movie!"
This movie was garbage. I don't get how these reviewers are saying what they are saying with a straight face. They must want to continue to be invited to premiers.
I loved it. Let time pass. People that hate it were expecting 2 hours of WWE
This was an utter faillure of a movie!
>Why the Hell did Luke leave a map if he didn't want to be found?
>Mind Numbingly stupid military tactics of the 1stOrder:
*3 Resurgence class stardestroyers against ONE rebel MonCalamari Cruise WTF were they waiting for?
*Gun turrets destroyed by this nimble space fighter: Hellooo? AA CROSSFIRE barrage from other 1stOrder ships?
*Where were the AA missiles turrets so smartly used in EpVII? Also,Where was the shield of the Dreadnought?
And COME ON another bloody gigantic warship with an equaly huge weakspot?
*Sir they're out of the effective range of our Weapons. Well officer How about the Micro Jum into Hyperspace ahead of them and surround them in a pincer movement?
>Nothing about Snoke's Origins? Amazingly powerful but can't sense ripples in the force next to his right arm?
>Where are the KnightsOfRen? MIA?
>SuperspaceWomanLeia was complete BS: how about deflecting or shielding frim the missiles ?
>No problem with Ackbar being killed but let it be a "CaptainGoingDownWithTheShip" move> Hyperspace Kamikaze!
>Finn/Rose arc was useless both caharacter cousl've been used so much better.
>Phasma's appearance is an insult to Gwendolyn Christies amazing acting performances!
>How did Kylo Ren NOT notice Luke was using his old LightSaber?
>Lame Marvel Jokes
Disney and Rian Johnson got NO EXCUSE they Butchered Stawars!
I almost liked your post until Lame Marvel Jokes. Now you can piss off. The levity is Marvel works greats 90%. Here, didnt work once.
>>>Why the Hell did Luke leave a map if he didn't want to be found?
He didn't - The map was to the First Jedi Temple. They assumed Luke would be there.
>>>Mind Numbingly stupid military tactics of the 1stOrder:
*3 Resurgence class stardestroyers against ONE rebel MonCalamari Cruise WTF were they waiting for?
*Gun turrets destroyed by this nimble space fighter: Hellooo? AA CROSSFIRE barrage from other 1stOrder ships?
*Where were the AA missiles turrets so smartly used in EpVII? Also,Where was the shield of the Dreadnought?
And COME ON another bloody gigantic warship with an equaly huge weakspot?
Can't really say much about this, as i'm not a military man. But I guarantee that research and reasons are all justified for these choices.
***Sir they're out of the effective range of our Weapons. Well officer How about the Micro Jum into Hyperspace ahead of them and surround them in a pincer movement?
Lightspeed/Hyperspace doesn't work like that. Do some research.
>>>Nothing about Snoke's Origins? Amazingly powerful but can't sense ripples in the force next to his right arm?
Snoke's origin aren't important to the story. Just like the Emperors weren't in the original trilogy. Same argument can also be made about Vader throwing Emperor down the shaft in RotJ.
>>>Where are the KnightsOfRen? MIA?
Not important to the story. They were possibly briefly mentioned though. Wait until the trilogy is over before this kind of gripe.
>SuperspaceWomanLeia was complete BS: how about deflecting or shielding frim the missiles ?
The force works in mysterious ways. Visually a little jarring at first, but loved how it showed Leia's powers.
>>>No problem with Ackbar being killed but let it be a "CaptainGoingDownWithTheShip" move> Hyperspace Kamikaze!
Hyperspace Kamikaze is one of the most breathtaking scenes ever movie history, let alone in a Star Wars movie. I believe Akbar dying really shows the stakes within the movie and that they're in real danger.
>>>Finn/Rose arc was useless both caharacter cousl've been used so much better.
Granted, this story is the weakest part in the movie. But, not useless. The message Rose puts across at the end is hope inspiring, and we actually got to see other parts of the galaxy that we haven't seen before.
>>>Phasma's appearance is an insult to Gwendolyn Christies amazing acting performances!
Hardly, she was used in a way that was essential to the story. Just like an homage to Boba Fett. Would i like to see more of her? Hell yes, but not disappointed.
>>>How did Kylo Ren NOT notice Luke was using his old LightSaber?
All Kylo saw before he got knocked out was a bright flash of light. How the fuck was he to know the lightsaber broke? When he woke up Rey and the saber was gone. For all he knew, Rey picked it up and gave it to Luke.
>>>Lame Marvel Jokes
Some were a little weird, but I thought it brought levity to such a dark serious film.
>>>Disney and Rian Johnson got NO EXCUSE they Butchered Stawars!
Obviously your opinion that I don't agree with. Oh, and by the way,.....Disney FINANCED...Lucasfilm CREATED!!
1) Nope Sorry mindnumbingly stupid military decision.
All they had to do was to directly target the rebel fleet instead of the ground Base. Who gives a damn abou the ground base? They were evacuating! Target the cruiser's main engine and hyperdrive GameOver. They even said they wanted to give it a WW2 feel, well, that's exactly what aWW2navalbattle would've been like: fighters protected Warships against bombers and if this wasn't enough or the ships AA guns got destroyed there was always an AA escort ship standing by.
Plus I find it laughable that as the "offspring of the Empire" the 1stOrder Navy doen't have interdictor class warships, which are still canon, able to project gravity wells and prevent the rebel fleet from escaping from the D'Qar system!
2) Absolutely NOTHING prevented the 1stOrder from repositionning their ship to avoid the gravitational shadow of the rebel fleet and then jump ahead.
What's more it is absolutely not credible that even at "no longer effective range" the entire, concentrated power of the IstOrderFleet + Snoke's Ship the supremacy, wouldn't punch through the shields of a SINGLE rebel cruiser that's HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of Turbolaser bolt striking the shield.
For this very reason I also find laughable that the 1stOrder had to bring a mini DeathStar superlaser and fire it a CLOSERANGE too, a standard Imperial operation "BaseDeltaZero", still canon, consisted in a concentrated orbital bombardement to render a planet's surface uninhabitable.
Even from Low orbit that's from 160 km to 2000km at least of effective range for their turbolaser guns.
3) SNOKE : Yes we needed to know more about Snoke before he got killed!
Here's why: The orginal trilogy was its own thing nothing like it had ever been done before, everything oucld be made to hte writer's liking and preferences. We got only as much as we needed to make the characters believable and to further the plot.
FORTY years alter StarWars is a well rounded, well defined, extremely rich universe, so everything new's got to be consitent with what already exists. REGARDLESS of over the top, wild fan theories and speculations there were high expectations about Snoke becuase episode VII shows us this "supreme leader" who managed to knit together the tattered and bloodied remenants of the empire and reforge it into this formidable military and political player in the Galaxy. HOW did he accomplish this? WHY?
We know he is insanely powerful, got horrendous scars possibly resulting from past encounters with other Force users or terrible creatures. He also comes form the "unknown regions" of the Galaxy and clealry stated he saw the rise and fall of the Empire. He is shrouded in Mystery and Wants to destroy Luke Skywalker so OF COURSE viewer are going to want to know more about him! Where does he fit into all of this from the blocus of Naboo to the Battle of Endor? We didn't need every detail far from it but a bit of a back story was needed to anchor the character even if "he isn't the real (main)villain" of this story or if this Trilogy does away with "Manichaeism".
We got insanely teased and then got the Galaxy's biggest case of blueballing from Disney and Lucasfilm!
Sorry for feeling quite frustrated.
4) KNIGHTS OF REN : Kylo Ren was supposed to complete his trainning was it too much to as for a trainning scene with all of the KoR agaisnt Kylo striving to become better and stronger after his defeat agaisnt Rey?
At least they could've been briefly mentionned as being sent on various assignments all across the galaxy.
GIVE US CONTEXT!
5) LEIA : The scene was visually cringy ridiculous and nonsensical. Yes, "the force works in mysterious ways" but it's not magic this is not HarryPotter "there's no accidental magic" saving you if you're in danger. Even the most gifted Force wielders have to train for years before any significant results. If Leia was trained by Luke they should've told us so thorugh another character commenting on the situation or after she woke up form her coma. GIVE US CONTEXT! Tell us however briefly you like she used the force to "slowdown her vitals" of she made a "force shield" luke her taught her that little trick years ago.
Everything has to fit withing a greater context, or it just feels wrong.
It would've been better if she'd ben picked up by the ships BioScanners as faintly but still alive > Tractorbeam > Portside hangarbay > Medical team > No problem with safety door opening into the vacuum of space because we would see her body go through the typical blue-ish hue of an atmospheric containment field.
6) ADMIRAL ACKBAR : Though a minor character he was beloved and hsi line became famous and the center of many memes and jokes Hime taking down the 1st ordership would've been much more satifying, "This is a Trap Imperial scum". If Holdo was such a military mind Iwould''ve liked to see her lead the defense on Crait. And while visually stunning the hyperspace kamikaze raises the question of why this was never done before... against the death star for instance? Sacrifice a single ship to destroy to Destroy the Empire's war machine? Good return on investment I say.
7) FINN/ROSE : CantoBight casino's was the perfect opportunity to reintroduce LadoCalrissian another beloved Character very good at card games and Sabbac especially.
But Nope, got arrested because they parked their ship on the beach...Duh!
He could've been in the cell with them because he was "too good a player for his own good" Casinos don't like to loose money even when there's no cheating involved... And COME ONE freeing the Racing beast but NOT the SLAVE CHILDREN?
If the slaves had exploive implants so did the racing beasts which must be more valuable to their owners than the kids. And ROSE, since she's so good with technology would've found a way to neutralize it.
CantoBight was anlso a missed offportunity to show a real firefight against Stormtroopers ans even a... Knight of Ren or Phasma an shte 1stOrder had agent everywhere and would certainly like to keep an eye on its arms dealers and main contractors. There could've been a real fight between Phasma and Finn which he would've badly lost, you know, since "this movie is about failure". Phasma must've had at most 5 minutes with epidodes 7 & 8 and they didn't even show us her face, surely they could find some gimmick to make that happen? This is a disgrace!
Well this movie failed to tell us what was going on in the wider Galaxy and fell like a "Pursuit movie"
8) LUKE'S LIGHTSABER : Was and is GREEN as far as Kylo ren is concerned and he was traumatized by his uncle seemingly trying to murder him every last detail of that nightmust've been finely seared into his memories. Smells sounds everything, Luke projected himself as what he looked like that very night he coulnot 've possibly overlooked suchan important detail.
Plus the idiot didn't even try to apologize to Kylo and explain what truly happened? Hello?!! Way to die for nothing. I mean the guy redeemed DarthVader and he wouldn't even try to redeem KyloRen? Since this episode is all about deception, manipulations and failure why not have luke attack KyloRen in a "Mindscape" where they could've had a short but intense light saber duel showing Kylo he's stil got a lot to learn? There everybody's happy.
9) The JOKES : Were out of tone and out of place. Stawars' not new to humour but it was in very light touches and very subtle. The Jokes as much as laughter is a matter of taste just completly destroyed high tesion scenes and dicredited the Villains. Just imagine if Frodo of Sam just quipped and Joked before or Sauron or one the Nazgûls slipped on a banana peel. It would look utterly ridiculous Comic relief is allowed but within reason.
CONCLUSION : They tried to do soemthing differrent and they tried too damn hard and they did not believe in what made the success of the original Trilogy, this is why they failed.
Still, May the Force be wth you, always.
If you enjoyed the movie good for you.
GeoffreyRahl
Jesus Christ, l didn’t want a fricking essay/thesis in return. I was just basically pointing out my answers to your pointless arguments, and your answers certainly don’t change that.
I’d love to hear your take on the prequels/original trilogy and see if you’re as nitpicky with them too 😂😂😂
Yes I enjoyed the film, there’s also another reason why I loved it, because it did something that all the other films did too......it took me out of the real world and took me on and adventure with some amazing characters in a galaxy far far away. No amount of petty nitpicking will stop that from happening.
that princess Leia floating in space crap was one of the worst Star Wars scenes ever sorry Riley
If Star Wars suddenly was a human being it would at least know where it could go to get it's salad tossed...the Collider offices!
I'm done with Collider - what a bunch of sycophants
Jared Davies k, bye 👋👋
It's really bad. For its length, it's choppy and feels rushed! Leia in space? Luke just disappearing without even the slightest explanation? Snoke and Phasma dying? The list goes on and on with weird stuff in this movie. Poe takes over the ship only for Leia and Vice Admiral to quib "I like that guy...". Kylo is the new big villian and Rey is somehow his equal? This movie is mind numbingly bad. In terms of battles it's fine; if you are a fan of lore or the star wars history this movie is like a swift kick in the nuts. I'm not even certain what episode 9 is going to be about and I've never left a star wars movie feeling that way...so poorly written. And Johnson is going to be in charge of a new trilogy? Wow.....
I can tell how young you are by your emotional response and inability to provide constructive criticism. Take care, may the force be with you
Totally agree with everything you said... this could have been episode 7... 7 was basically totally worthless everything established was for absolutely nothing
... and the Oscar goes to: Kathleen Kennedy! I think this explains a lot about the Lord and Miller situation now. My suspicion is that the offer of ep 9 and a new trilogy for Johnson will all turn out to be a publicity stunt and that they knew how bad TLJ was but it was too late to sack Johnson. Powerful with the publicity machine is she.
the film is fantastic
Fuck u
As someone who's a casual Star Wars fan, this film was perfect for me. I was shocked at some of the choices because the hardcore SW community don't like change. Killing Snoke off in the second act was fantastic. I couldn't care less about him, it was all about Kylo Ren's story and the twist got me, I loved it. A big complaint people had about TFA was it was too safe, too predictable. This film had more shocks, had unpredictability and the story was more engaging. Only negative was the silly Leia flying like Superman bit..... dopey.
Dan Middleton you can't satisfy a Star Wars fan
Not true! I'm am an old man. I was there watching the Original (episode IV) when it was released. I loved this movie! It is important not to pay too much attention to social media and the internet.
This movie sucked. What a waste of a part 2 of this trilogy, the acting and characters did a great job but in the end the STORY SUCKED. Something went wrong. Hopefully they dont continue to put out shit stories for future star wars movies.
@kristianharloff I really need you to explain to me how what RJ did with Luke Skywalker is okay! Do you truly feel that the Luke we know and love, the Luke who risked everything to redeem a man who had murdered 1000s of innocent people would just try to kill his 15 yr old nephew in his sleep??? A nephew who hadn't even turned, hadn't done anything evil yet. It's such a slap in the face to Luke and all of the fans. It's a cowardly move, and I'm sorry... that is not Luke Skywalker! It's an unforgivable move in this movie and I can't even consider it cannon 😕😔😐
I respect you so much Kristian, I have watched Jedi Council for 3 years. I can't believe you truly think those decisions are ok. I trusted your opinions and I feel you are losing some credibility with the love you are giving this movie.
The comedy in this feels like the prequels, how do you guys not see that? I wanted to love this movie, I was so hyped for this, but I just can't be Phantom Menaced again in my life.
I respect your opinions and I mean no disrespect. You guys are awesome and I just am baffled at your review of this movie. Hope to hear back from you guys!
Cory B they won't reply man. Hamill was right. Rian Johnson didn't do great with this. I would be questioning the guys handling the star wars law (Pablo)
Ash C it really is shocking how Rian Johnson gave the Star Wars lore and it's greatest hero a HUGE slap in the face.
RJ and Kathleen Kennedy ruined all the mystery and intrigue that JJ set up in Force Awakens. For the first time in my life I actually don't care about seeing the next chapter in the Star Wars Saga.
Mark Hammil was 100% right, guess we all should have listened.
I don't think Pablo is the main decision maker hes more akin to a PR guy.
Come out of 2nd viewing and feel a lot better about it now. Luke was really so F'd up from kylo killing all his kids, when you think about it more it does explain his state of mind now. Although we were all picturing that training montage there's no way to he was interested in training rey after his entire academy of kids got slaughtered by what he he perceives to be his own fault. He does need an arc in this movie, and he goes out the same hero we knew saving his sister and whats left of the gang. Then he knew it was his time...
You really don't know Luke. Seeing in vivid force vision Kylo killing every man, woman and child he knew and trained and all the horrible things he would do later even Luke would have a fear. ANYONE would be afraid. And for a brief moment he considered killing him in order to save everyone. It was just a brief moment and made sense.
On it's own, i thought it was a good film but seriously... Maz got 1 hologram scene, Where are the Knights of Ren? The Leia superman scene was ridiculous, Snoke's death was complete bullshit...killed out of nowhere with no given backstory and no explanation of how he was able to manipulate Ben Solo for so long...total DUD character, Kylo killed Snoke and alligned with Rey for 2 minutes to kill the guards just for them to split again and become enemies, Rey's parents were handed terriblly...just so suddenly mentioned that they're junk collecters and we STILL don't know how or why she is so powerful in the force...are we really supposed to just accept some random girl is so powerful for no reason? There was no explanation for Luke's death, nothing really happened for him to "die" in that scene and are we really meant to believe that Luke even had a moment of relapse where he was willing to kill his own nephew because he sensed the darkness in him even though he spent all that time trying to convert a fully dark Vader? come on now, Everything with Finn and Rose was pointless and lead to nothing except Phasma's death... i seriously have no idea where episode 9 is going to go from here...
But Hux faceplanting single handedly gets the film a 11/10 xD
I will agree with you about rey's parents if you tell me who was obi wan's and why he was so powerful. Force sensitivity is not something that is passed on from parent to child
The jedi were random force
Users as well, or mace windu's father was a jedi legend? He was not! The force is no tie to some
Bloodline no even the skywalker line
I can't believe how disappointed I was with The Last Jedi. No matter how hard I try to convince myself otherwise it was just bad. I was going to comment on the things I didn't like but there are too many. The cinematography was great. It was nice seeing Luke and Leia together on screen again and Chewbacca was great as usual. Other than that? Not much. I respect everyone's opinion but you guys @ Collider are doing damage control for this mess. Put it this way even with all the positive spin and damage control this review still describes a bad movie when listening to you guys. Kristian is being the most real here. So far Rogue One is the only newer Star Wars movie I can say hit it on most points with me.
Movie was great
There is nothing in Rogue one that is as complex and as superior as The Last Jedi. I guess people love mindless entertainment and turning your brain off movies rather than challenging yourselves on the questions of the mythology Rian Johnson has presented in this film.
I really, truly don't understand why so many people are tearing this movie apart. They made brave, bold decisions and as a lifelong Star Wars fan, I couldn't have been happier. I genuinely don't understand what people are so upset about.
The things people are upset about is that the characters are basically throw away characters. The idea of the force in the movie was great but they threw away potential characters. Snoke died a stupid death, we know nothing of him or even cared about him. Phasma too.... she basically fight for a few scenes and then boom fall to her death. Luke was alright but I expect him to do more than what he does in the movie. Plus they set up the whole Rebels vs Empire scenario all over again!!! People focus on the mythology and stuff in the movie and forget the characters. There is little to no development of the characters.
thi tran See, I definitely felt that they took the time to develop the characters that matter. Phasma was little more than a shiny stormtrooper, so I don't feel she deserved much more. The whole idea is that in the end, the relationship betweeb Kylo and Rey is what really matters. It shows that strength when they work together. That hope that love will conqueror evil. It makes them parting as enemies more impactful and heavy. Snoke was a necessary big bad for kylo to take out so it shows that he can be redeemed. Its at least possible. Always back to the idea of hope.
Mark is like a red letter media character in this review lol
You are smart.
Elaborate please 😆
It landed for me. That also landed for me. And that? Yeeeeeah... that also landed for me. Jesus Chris, these guys hahaha
I kinda feel cheated by a few things... no true reunion with Luke and Leia and after not getting one with Han, I just feel that it was a huge missed opportunity! =(
Jonathan Clark yeah you're right
Many irreparable mistakes were made to Star Wars with this movie, some amazing moments & shots but luke deciding to kill Ben Solo rather than guide him away from the dark side is fundamentally NOT in character of Luke at all,
Adam Schinabeck Disappointed no one mentioned this. Especially Kristian.
Adam Schinabeck did you not listen to Luke? He said he had a brief clarity fuck up moment. And when his mind was clear he was caught red handed
As yoda said, failure can be the best teacher. As kylo described it, Luke was consumed and was set on killing him; however we learn that he hesitated and suddenly realized the nature of what was happening.. his fear of what would happen to Ben leading him to a darkness. This shift can be respected because it gives Luke Skywalker and his never-fleeting synergy with the light more depth..and you got to love how yoda so gracefully reminded him of what matters.
Somebody didn't actually watch the movie. Luke had a brief moment of fear consuming him, and they righted himself. But at that point Ben realized his brief intent.
That's the main point of this film, the Jedi order is not flawless, and it's even more important to learn from your mistakes.
While I didn't like it, it is not far fetched to think a young idealistic Luke would think different than the old cynical Luke.
Also why the hell did they have to kill Luke honestly... I know he sacrifices himself but come on you show him survive just to die 5 minutes later... and the Snoke thing my god.... and Rey's parents being a bunch of no body's I think Kylo was lying and they are actually someone beacuse how in the hell is she so powerful...
Brandon Blakney Kylo and Rey lose their masters to be able to grow without a parent/master/boss figure: independent growth. Very good (and gift for JJ). Luke entered RotJ like a grown man. Vader still had emperor to deal with. Now we get Kylo and Rey on their own. Cool.
Why does she have to be somebody? This is perfect.
The joke at the start with Poe and Hux felt like I was watching Space Balls. Kylo went from having temper tantrums to running the 1st Order in a few weeks. That is a joke. Hard to get excited about the episode 9 without a real badass leader running the 1st Order.. No equivalent of the emperor or Vader. Hux now seems like goof ball.. I hope the next happens a few years after this so the characters can mature more.
Did u see rise of Skywalker?
This snoke thing really bothers me,not that he died,but how he died.They say he was more powerful then Vader and the emperor and yet he gets killed because of a distraction? His and rey's back story were something fans really wanted at least a little something from and we got nothing.Leia superman thing along with Finns sidequest and out of place humor really brought my rating down.Im at a 7 out of 10
Jordan Sherrick You'll just have to read a novel about it one day
Jordan Sherrick 7/10 is still a really high rating and good one. I personally give it a 8 or 9 out of 10 just bc I feel like Finn's side plot could be better
This comment is why I hope that TLJ isn't the end of the road for Snoke. There needs to be more here.
Aroreiel in the movies it probably is,the other guy is right we will probably read about him In a novel unfortunately
Still disappointed that Luke’s alive arc is over. Wasted opportunity to further explore the force with him. A force ghost isn’t the same thing.
not super shocking. hes old. we didnt get to see vader at his peak or luke at his peak.
But Kada wwhat we did get was six movies of Vader/Anakin. Luke more than deserved an arc echoing that. Whereas the secondaries in Obi-Wan and Han Solo are only in four of the main films.
I'm marry poppins y'all lol they just couldn't leave it in gotg2
Ryan Piper that's all I could think about too!
Ismael Martinez because they recycle jokes
Sorry, I was hoping for more with this video. Defending that kind of humor and such.... no way.
But at least your comment-section is great. As for the comments: Thanks guys, for speaking out how horribly bad that movie was.
You’re loco in la cabasa
they wont say anything bad so long as they still get invited to the premiers
But I thought they were just BOTS doing the backlash.
Antarctic Vortex and trolls u can't forget the trolls
lol RIGHT!!!
the only times we saw the real luke was when he talks to chewie, r2, and yoda. he literally sounds like how he talked in the original trilogy. miss that luke :(
“Broom kid” I believe the canon name is Bru’ume Keed
I can't believe I just googled "Bru'ume Keed"...
Brendan Leahy The broom kid's name is Temiri Blagg. The officer who Han and luke faced before breaking out Leia in IV has the same last name.
Holy shit! It’s RLM’s The Nerd Crew! 😂
Wow. No exaggeration. :D
Nerd Crew.....in the hoooouuse
very cool
I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!!!!!
Very cool
I was surprised how little actually happened in this film. So many flaws.
anyone else think that Rose is awful character she had no point in the movie in my opinion she ruined a seen that could have been so great with Finn sacrificing himself. Take her out of the movie and it effects nothing we just never meet Benicio's character. Her sister had a great part but she was so unnecessary.
Evan Spolidoro take Rose out of the movie and they can't play it in China.
She's vietnamese.
Yeah, she was kinda useless, I wish she wasn't though... basically, just assume that the 3 main characters can never die. Kinda sad, wish they would've broken that ground and killed a main character for once...
ER Spoli ..... you’re absolutely right.
Totally agree.I hate what they did with Finn .rose feels like she was created just to make a force relationship with Finn.
I’ve never had such a mixed reaction walking out of a movie.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that felt let down by the movie. There’s no way in the hell this movie deserves to be at 94% on RT. I honestly had more fun watching Justice League.
You immediately lost any cred whatsoever with the JL comment. That movie is utter garbage. LJ was not.
To quote the RUclips critic MauLer "WHAT... A... DISASTER!!!"
Def the most divisive SW movie ever. Fans are 50/50 on it. I think that has to do with the high highs and low lows. I'm sure some are just upset the twists didn't go as they thought/wanted them too. I'm fine with it but get used to the new norm.
nucciboy1 it's only when twists like snoke dying feel empty that people are sad about. We learnt nothing of him even though he was so cool and menacing his apprentice kills him before ep9 and we don't even see knights of ren teased in ep 7. Sad.
besides a few bright moments, the movie sucked
nucciboy1 well it has to do with chaos, holy shit that narrative was a mess.
Russ Sperry no I wanted the guy they made look cool to mean something. If we know nothing of him and he dies in two episodes and minimal screen time it feels empty because he's litrally a plot device that is cheap. No I don't want another emperor which is why I wanted snoke to stay.
Russ Sperry no dude, there are specific lines where they talk about how snoke corrupted Ben before Luke could teach him enough, among others and these were totally dropped
Broom Kid was not Movie Quality... it was a Great Target Commercial.
If it was a commercial then what was it selling at that moment?
😂😂😂I was thinking the same thing
TLJ is a turning point for starwars to shift to other characters away from the Skywalkers. I think you're just stuck and can't move on.
Jason E. Nope... TFA set the stage to move away from the Skywalkers... I saw it 7x in the theater. I loved Kylo & Rey... Im ok to go with new characters. This scene just didnt fit the end of a saga level SW movie. I get the symbolism it just seemed out of place Imo.
The should stop calling it the Skywalker Trilogy then... They already said that after the Skywalker Trilogy, they would go to new characters. So why not wait to do all this stuff till after these 9 films?
The main sticking points I had with this movie:
1. Why Didn’t the First Order Fleet Destroy the Resistance Ships Immediately? The First Order Fleet clearly outnumbered the Resistance and they had a number of Dreadnoughts/Destroyers at their disposal (also the fact that one X-Wing took down a whole dreadnought was ridiculous and was done only to showcase Poe)., so why couldn't they have caught up to the Resistance much quicker? Other than that, the action was cool and the tension was high but overall it was the longest chase scene I have ever watched in the cinema.
2. When Darth Sidious said "To cheat death is the power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret." I never realised that Leia would be the one to discover the secret by miraculously flying THROUGH THE VACUUM OF SPACE and back to the Raddus like Superman using the Force- this was the most ridiculous moment of the movie.
3. Poe vs Holdo. This whole segment of the movie was a complete waste and didn't amount to anything significant. Why didn't Holdo Just Let Poe in on her plan from the beginning? I understand Leia and Holdo where maybe trying to teach Poe restraint but this was literally the Resistance on it's last legs and it didn't seem like the right time for moral lessons.
4. Phasma. What a joke. less than five minutes of screentime and Disney marketed her again as being central to the story (Phasma vs Finn, Book release, Last Jedi DLC in battlefront 2). GC is such an amazing actress however she was definitely short changed as were the fans.
5. Snoke. This was the most frustrating death purely from the fact that I feel like I wasted days reading the Aftermath Trilogy for them to suggest that he was this massive dark side presence and with RJ saying he was more powerful than Vader and Sidious yet he couldn't detect Kylo turning the lightsaber towards him?? And the fact that he's dead now means there is not much point for any further character development and he was another wasted character.
6. Rey's Parentage. While I can accept that she came from nothing significant, mirroring Anakin's lineage, why oh why did they build up on this theory since Force Awakens? In the end it meant nothing and for me it was just another example of lazy writing.
7. Finn and Rose. While their character interactions are excellent their whole plot in this story was completely insignificant (apart from Finn killing Phasma). They never recruited the Codebreaker they were meant too and they never shut down the tracker device. Also the whole sequence on Canto Bight was drawn out and felt like a promotion for highlighting rich society and animal cruelty (which are important) but how did this lend to the main plot?
8. Luke. Well where do I start? For the first hour and a half I thought his character direction and portrayal was great but then I began to realise why Mark Hamill initially said in interviews that he didn't like the script; he didn't give Rey any real training, we never got to see him physically wield a lightsaber and during his fight with Kylo he's now the worlds best limbo player??, also he was able to hologram himself? Across millions of miles of space?? and create hologram dice? This is where the nature of the Force is now just a Mcguffin which can fill in crappy plot holes. Luke's death was so stupid and ridiculous considering that in 40 years of canon and lore, Luke has always been promoted as one of the most powerful Jedi etc and his story continued well into old age. But after a hologram fight he just gets tired and gives up? What a joke.
9. Killing off 5 main characters from the old and new trilogy. This just demonstrates how the writers have disregarded fans likability for certain characters - Ackbar, Holdo, Phasma, Snoke, Luke. All deserved more time on screen. And none of these deaths had any emotional impact compared to any other SW movie or certainly Han's death in FA.
10. Yoda appearing to Luke. While I loved Yoda's cameo, why didn't they introduce a CGI Obi Wan (they done a great job of Tarkin in Rogue One) as well since he was Luke's first mentor and arguably the one he was most attached too.
Overall I would rate it 5/10 and by far the worst Star Wars movie. It had so much potential to be great (Luke fearing Kylo which could have led him to the Dark SIde and then lead him to fighting Rey and Kylo/ or Rey joining Kylo and ruling the Galaxy vs Luke in Ep.9./ Snoke being an Ancient Sith and killing one of the main characters or having Luke save Rey and Kylo on the Supremacy). But overall alot of the plot threads amounted to nothing significant.
The movie was shot beautifully and the action sequences were great. The actors portrayal of their characters was also great. As I say, my main issue is how the plot serviced these characters. The plot was messy and lacked real direction and I think in order to simplify things for Episode 9; that's why the writers literally destroyed everything. This is the first SW movie that I was genuinely disappointed in, and its the first SW movie I have ever complained about (I love the Originals, the Prequels and TFA/RO).
well said
Good review.
Everything you said I totally agree liked where it was going but then felt like "really that's it.. he died that way? So that's how the force works now?" Also the constant reminder/attempt to destroy everything of the old.
That's one thing I forgot about Leia floating through space again just didn't fit into star wars
If I remember correctly Phasma was to get more of an influence in the last Jedi well this never happened still furious over this
I love Star Wars, getting sick of Star Wars fans though.
Dennis Bolullo amen!!
that's how it is w every fandom of a major series now a days, the internet fandom is always fighting and never grateful for anything they get
Agreed.
Completely agree.
Dennis Bolullo PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys are losing so much credibility from this discussion. Please, I know you are Star Wars fans but you primarily work in the film industry. Surely you can see the continued mistakes of script writing and character development. How can you simply overlook the horrible story development of so many characters and just say "I loved it in the book!" That does not mean anything for the larger movie going audience. Please stop overhyping this film and admit the incredibly flawed nature of the movie rather than continuing this silly denial of the extensive issues with this film.
Because someone doesn't have the same opinion as you, you're mad LOL
Daniel Meyer You are right. If you notice most critics that are giving this movie a pass have been invited to premiere showing or given a media pass in Disneycon. While the critics that are giving their true opinion of the movie are mostly small time RUclipsrs and some are even just pissed off veteran Star Wars fans. It's like an indirect blackmail. If you criticize Disney movies you don't get invited in the convention or premiere. It's getting more obvious now that Disney almost have full monopoly of the entertainment business.
It’s not perfect but it’s amazing. Force awakens is carbon copy of new hope and you probably like it more. To each his own I guess.
Kind of amazing Star Wars has so many die hard fans when most of them dislike 66% of the movies lol
Truth^^^
From a die hard fan that loved all of them especially this one.
Because a lot of super fans are too godamn invested in a story about space wizards. Let them be salty. It was a flawed movie... but it was also really really good
@@BOZYMAN you still think that after rise of crapwalker?
To many jokes. Took me completely out of the movie every time.
J.Tweezy i agree
My favorite part in The Last Jedi was when the credits rolled because I knew Rainman Johnson couldn't do anymore damage to Star Wars.
All those claims from Andy Serkis that Snoke is more powerful than Darth Sidious and that he is the most powerful baddie Star Wars has ever seen, and yet he gets killed like nothing. So much potential lost.
Samuel Herrera sidious litterally got picked up and tossed down a hole. Vader died because hes breathing aparatus was fucked up
i was okay with Snoke eating it the way he did because it showed that, no matter how powerful you are, your hubris and ego can lead to your downfall. He thought he knew it all, the Force showed different.
I don't know how to feel. Visually the movie is as good as A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. The decisions made in this movie... I don't wanna be that Star Wars fan "oh Disney ruined star wars" but maybe the decisions made will serve to boost episode IX.
Definitely The Last Jedi will be judged when the whole trilogy is complete.
Like Empire strikes back was. A lot of the fan of the original weren't thrilled with how episode V turned out. It's only down the road that people actually started seeing it as the best one.
Ekinoxe I disagree, after episode 5 I loved it instantly and I’m a child of the prequel era. So my disappointment for The Last Jedi is beyond anything I could have expected.
Josh Rocko I agree, when Empire came out the critics were the same way.
And you think JJ Abrams is going to make a compelling conclusion?
Disney did ruin this film though, or maybe Rian Johnson...either way, disappointing.
It's probably a coincidence, but I think it's cool that it seems like Kylo's character is getting similar to Jacen Solo from the EU novels. How he's acting, his rage and raw emotion and his feelings towards his uncle Luke. And the force powers that Luke was using to project himself was also used in the Legacy of the Force book series. I don't know if anyone else is making these connections. But yeah I thought that was pretty cool.
senpaigarr YES
I had this exact thought.
1. Han and Leia's son
2. Dark robes
3. Sith master he kills half-way through the story
4. Kills close family members
5. Takes control of the military
6. Luke gives up on him and tries to kill him (kinda)
I thought the same thing. And even tho I enjoyed TLJ, a part of me kinda wished they'd have been Jacen and Jaina. That storyline of brother vs sister would have had such an emotional impact. And it'd have been cool to have Mara Jade & Ben Skywalker in the mix....ohh well....I'm going to read my Legends EU books again.
*Drops mic & picks up Heir to the Empire
I feel like I'm standing in my front door listening to a vacuum cleaner sales pitch.
Did they ever explain how they got Luke's Lightsaber? Or is still a story for another time?
SomethingAwesomeSpactular as far as we know Maz has it for some reason
gotta say, i like the new movies but that line "A good question, for another time." was just urghhhh
Anakins lightsaber*
SomethingAwesomeSpactular nothing gets explained. NOTHING
God, why do I read these comment sections?
The hate this movie is getting is beyond ridiculous. It’s one of the best of the saga.
It's a phenomenal movie. Nothing is ever good enough for people these days. I can't imagine what it must be like to have such a shitty opinion.
Agreed, it was fantastic. Would it have been nice to know Snoke's backstory? Sure, but it didn't matter too much and Rey's parents were handled excellently.
And what about the "diving deep into SW Lore?". There was NO LORE. None...zip. Surely the announced that Johnson was getting a trilogy because this film was so "great" because they need to make all of their money back this weekend. I have been on board with Disney and KK 100% but man, did they screw the pooch. Poor Mark Hamill. I'm not counting this as canon. Nope.
RLM absolutely nails these tools!
Why did they kill every character idea that TFA setup? What made TFA good was all the questions raised, the mystery. This movie said fuck that, they're not special. Disappointed and now JJ has nothing to work with, we know how this will end now, there's no more mystery.
Sal Soto the surprise is that there's no surprise
The only mystery there ever was is what the fans hyped up.
Thats a cop out bro, my friend said that to he's like oh you didn't like it cus you just speculated everything. All these guys do on Jedi Council is speculate and literally none of that came to fruition in this movie and there sitting there like they loved it. I know its subjective but come on some of the stuff they did in this movie was kinda cringe worthy.
Sal Soto you know what? You’re not special either. Fuck the mystery of Snoke, and I liked the fact that Rey’s parents were nobodies. Too many people in this galaxy are related as it is.
Sal Soto what was snoke's mystery even going to bring to the movie? Nothing. Just more confusion. Also the fact that Rey's parents we’re nobodies brings another side to her character.
I hated this movie. So many characters were a complete waste and it sadly made TFA pointless. Like do we even need Episode 9 now? It can just end here now and we can just be done.
Don’t watch it then...
Kylo's betrayal of Snoke is Sith perfection.
Charlie Turk I never thought of it that way... GENIUS
Sounds like the tragic story of Darth plagus the wise
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Can we think that kylo actually used snoke in a way?
Charlie Turk the sith failures is thinking they’re in control. And being naive. The Jedi failures is thinking they’re not in control, and forcing their will onto the padawan
wow, so biased! The movie is just terrible!
Or... maybe... JUST MAYBE... they liked it?
Someone fill me in: does Reilly actually have any negatives to say?
Purple hair and needing canon books to understand hair dye 😂 whaaaaaaat
Does he need to have one? It can be perfect for him as it was for me.
He did not like Canto Bight :) Do you speak engirishu?
Does he have to have any negatives to say?? If he loved it then he loved it. Who the fuck are you to question that. You act like he owes you or anyone else an explanation. Grow the fuck up! People in this world like stuff you don’t like and vice versa.
James D. Portillo lol you mad?
Was just Disappointing. Not a bad movie Just....Disappointing.
KingofCabal I respect your opinion but Lule v Kylo at the end was epic
I wasn’t disappointed
I need this video right now because this movie bothered me..... listening now to hopefully decompress and get another perspective cuz I'm.... aggravated.
Basically, I loved the first half of this movie. And disliked the last half. But I'm going to see it tomorrow and Sunday. So I'll see what I think about it on Monday.
Mikes vlogs for me it wasn't split down the middle. (I liked Rey/Kylo team up towards the end) The movie was on and off. Luckily more on than off.
I just watched The Last Jedi this afternoon. I had to come home & find a review just to find other peoples thoughts about it, as I couldn't quite decide if I loved it or hated it. I do however think it was mostly the comedy moments that spoiled it for me.
The Gaming Kitchen No, it's the films fault for being absolutely shit.
Violator the peer pressure to love this Michael Bay star wars wow
Holy shit they’re in denial. This movie was trash from the first joke in scene one
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE! NO ONE IS GETTING PAYED TO LIKE IT! YOU'RE JUST ONE OF MANY WHINNY TROLLS WHO CAN'T ACCEPT CHANGE! YOU'RE TOO STUCK IN THE PAST! LET IT GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very cool!