7 Axis 5D Printer

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @hendrikjank3977
    @hendrikjank3977  2 года назад +64

    Thanks for the many positive responses.
    In C.N.C engineering, the ( slicer ) software does exist but is often machine type focused.
    I see my 7 Axis 5D project more as a kick-off for software developers and the younger generation of 3d printer builders.
    ( I retired 18 years ago as a Service Technician X Ray diffraction at Malvern Panalytical )
    Like Marlin, let’s start an open source platform on GitHub.
    To collectively develop the 5D universal slicer software.
    I know businesses which are developing the software, however these do not want to share the knowledge out of commercial interest.
    That's not how we get ahead.
    But there is hope.
    DerAnder1 is working in marlin to start inverse kinematics for 5 axis.
    Here you can enter machine parameters of swivel print head dimensions.

    • @rimbang_
      @rimbang_ 2 года назад +1

      awesome

    • @edenani
      @edenani 2 года назад +2

      Awesome project! 7 axis 3D printing woohoo...
      Do you know of an open source or free software that generates 6 axis g-code for mach3 by any chance? It must be out there somewhere but I couldn't find one.

    • @QuebecoisSti
      @QuebecoisSti 2 года назад +2

      Let's became a better world, one open-source machine at a time! Keep up the good work and wish you success

    • @yapandasoftware
      @yapandasoftware 2 года назад +1

      Someone was a mathematical genius to figure out 5D slicing. I considered myself intelligent until I saw this video.

    • @98f5
      @98f5 11 месяцев назад

      Im a software developer (c++ and many other languages) and ive also done some work on multi axis slicing and other custom slicing such as printing many layers in one part of the print then moving to another part and doinf the same layers there. Mostly speed and quality improvements. Much of my work was based on slic3r but have done some fully custom work too. If you're interested in working together and open sourcinf the work please reach out to me.

  • @michaelanderson6172
    @michaelanderson6172 2 года назад +19

    Hendrik, this is amazing work. We both grew up in a time where we were limited by technology, but now we are only limited by our imagination. I worked as an applications engineer for 3D Systems in the late 90's, it was the most rewarding job of my career.
    As we are likely the oldest people in this conversation I would like to suggest a way to develop concepts that may inspire the programmers toward a solution. One thing I have learned in my career is that it is (relatively) easy to develop a complex solution, but to develop a simple solution is much more difficult. Asking the right question(s) creates a path that will allow a plausible solution set to emerge. There are many paths to success, so choose wisely.

  • @rjward1775
    @rjward1775 2 года назад +35

    Loving the hole sleeves.
    I'm also seeing this as useful to reduce or eliminate z weakness, by passing a few layers of rotated material.

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 2 года назад +2

      Ideally, the slicing would be directly informed by FEM stress analysis, either from a CAD program, or internal to the slicer software. Perhaps run FreeCAD from within the slicer using python.

  • @leofortey7561
    @leofortey7561 2 года назад +47

    As with all 3D printing, limitations are with the slicer, not the hardware. I'd be happy with non-planar printing, let alone 7-axis. So cool. Can't wait for build-sheet, wiring schematic and functional slicer. :-)

  • @youtubeuser6067
    @youtubeuser6067 2 года назад +41

    You need to crowdfund this or get investors to provide you with capital to commercialize this for the general public.

    • @artomatica
      @artomatica 2 года назад +6

      It may be not economically viable. Adding axes to the FDM printer is expensive. Just switching to Laser sintering could solve all the problems of FDM without introducing additional mechanical complexity.

    • @theecstatic9686
      @theecstatic9686 2 года назад +1

      Dude did not invent 5d printing....

    • @claws61821
      @claws61821 2 года назад +4

      @@artomatica False. Powder bed printing retains roughly half of the common pitfalls of FFF/FDM and gains at least the same number of its own. Even sealed industrial units are sometimes known to leak toxic volatiles past the exhaust filtration, and those don't have nearly the corner-cutting that consumer grade units will, and you still have to fire the print in a high temperature kiln before you can work on finishing it. It's more expensive, it's more dangerous, and materials aside it takes significantly longer to achieve similar quality finishes. The biggest draw to PBP/SLS is "powder support" or "continuous support" depending on who you ask, and settling and clumping make it unreliable.
      It's an attractive alternative, but it's really not a replacement.

  • @laurnz
    @laurnz 2 года назад +3

    At first, I was thinking the same thing as a lot of the comments here. This is only print in 5 axes using 7 motors. But thinking about it a little more, this actually allows something not possible with just normal 5 axes. You can essentially control in which direction gravity is affecting the extrusion while printing over conventional 5 axis printers. This sounds like an interesting concept that I would like seeing research on how it could be harnessed for even better results.

    • @fergalcoulter
      @fergalcoulter 2 года назад +3

      So, if you wanted to be strict, this machine could probably be described as a 6 Degree of Freedom (DoF), 7 Axis machine. Though like others i don't agree with the '5D' descriptor.
      When you think about what those DoF can be - there's obviously X,Y and Z. Common nomenclature for the rotations are A (a rotation around the X), B (around Y) and C (rotation around Z). That could make this machine either an XYZABBC or XYZBBCC setup. Both are correct names as A and C are interchangeable, being as they are a transform of each other around the B axis.
      Having this many axes can be particularly useful when trying to print on to the surface of a manifold such as the hand, where you have concave and convex curvatures and a pentafurcation (thanks to the fingers and thumb).
      Such complexity is not necessarily useful in many general applications, but when you need it - boy is it great to have!

  • @jakeaustin901
    @jakeaustin901 2 года назад +4

    You should sell these! Plenty of hobbyists would buy. Employees would definitely get their boss's approval too!!!

  • @whitneydesignlabs8738
    @whitneydesignlabs8738 Год назад +1

    This is so amazingly cool. I lived in Amsterdam in the early 90s. Your video tempts me want to pack up and move back and join your hobby club!

  • @Roetz40
    @Roetz40 2 года назад +1

    haha i know the feel of running into weight constrains in overbuilding these machines. My toolhead was 8kg at the end even if it beeing made from carbon fiber and such. I can only imagine what referencing (and maintaining the tolerances) these cinematics together must feel.
    Really amazing Work!!!

  • @EduardoSousa-fk6oy
    @EduardoSousa-fk6oy 2 года назад

    wow, this is amazing, from my point of view, from a mere enthusiast, we are in a phase where the development and advances in DIy is dependent on the slicer. and the desire to share with everyone , of course everyone has to do their part and anyone who invests time programming a slicer , the functions the methods to put an idea like this to work, there can always be a commercial interest behind it there is no harm none of that, many advances have been made with the help and testing of the Diy community, I hope the community remains strong and with the evolution that has been seen. As for your project, I can only say excellent work, there are many hours of study and development, thank you very much for sharing information, concepts, etc.

  • @aytunch
    @aytunch 2 года назад +2

    This looks awesome. Please update us about new videos and advancements

  • @world_production
    @world_production 2 года назад +14

    Wow this is cool ! Printing quality is not bad considering how many moving parts and tolerance ! Bravo 👏

  • @cleison-em7bk
    @cleison-em7bk 9 месяцев назад

    Hi . This is a huge contribution to the opensouce community . We appreciate it.

  • @MatCron
    @MatCron Год назад

    This is a revolutionary printer !!! Superb idea.

  • @xiaoshizi131
    @xiaoshizi131 2 года назад +5

    Gefeliciteerd! Great project! Hopelijk kan ik het ooit eens live zien ;-)

  • @HaxPotato
    @HaxPotato 2 года назад +2

    Making big steps, this is awesome

  • @therustdigger
    @therustdigger 2 года назад +3

    This is super cool! Nice work! Nerves or steel looking at how fast the head plunges into the print.. 🤣 Gosh.. You do need a good 1st layer! Ahah

  • @kevin_delaney
    @kevin_delaney 2 года назад +1

    I'm pretty confident Duet 3 and Reprapfirmware would do this. RRF > Marlin
    Although slicing and gcode generation is a different problem altogether.

  • @bullzebub
    @bullzebub 2 года назад +13

    so this printer can manipulate time? wow!

  • @Andreas-gh6is
    @Andreas-gh6is 2 года назад +1

    This would also make a Kick-Ass microscope platform. You could make a camera track around a populated PCB for example.

  • @cleisonarmandomanriqueagui9176
    @cleisonarmandomanriqueagui9176 10 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing work

  • @homemadetools
    @homemadetools 2 года назад

    Very cool build. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎

  • @ArsenBPM
    @ArsenBPM 2 года назад +2

    We wanna hear you and sounds of that beast)

  • @laszlom8647
    @laszlom8647 2 года назад

    I really envy your knowledge, I regret that I can no longer learn this

  • @Jandodev
    @Jandodev 2 года назад +2

    That looks awesome!

  • @Fer-hj4qr
    @Fer-hj4qr 2 года назад +1

    Too impressive, great job!

  • @Rin_Media
    @Rin_Media Год назад

    Спасибо тебе друг за твои труды!!!

  • @tristanscott4118
    @tristanscott4118 2 года назад +1

    Nice work this is awesome.

  • @tjpprojects7192
    @tjpprojects7192 2 года назад +17

    1:31 "Marlin now supports 9 axes"
    Me who can only use 1 axe in each hand :(

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 2 года назад +4

      You're supposed to juggle them!

    • @sammiller5509
      @sammiller5509 2 года назад +1

      @@ronnetgrazer362 yes, and in this case the SLICER wuld give you the instructions on how to juggle them.

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 2 года назад +1

    Bit of a dumb question, and *I don’t know if it would violate any non-proliferation treaties (Which would be a valid reason for a “no” answer in my book, lol!)*, but:
    Could You Make an *Open Source X-Ray Diffraction Machine* given your experience?
    Granted a *bit* goofy, but making hardware like *that* more accessible would have huge impacts i’d imagine.

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 2 года назад +1

    Is There/Will There be a Wiki/GitHub/Hackaday Page etc for the hardware aspect of this project?

  • @olivierfontaine7854
    @olivierfontaine7854 2 года назад +15

    Isn’t Klipper able to control this many axis? Great work!!!

    • @comedyclub333
      @comedyclub333 2 года назад +1

      Controlling multiple axes is not really difficult. It's the path planning that gets pretty complex as you are basically working in a 10 dimensional phase space (+2 when with extrusion). Simply controlling multiple axes can be done with every board that is able to control multiple motor drivers. In principle the firmware does not have anything to do with it. In theory a nano running marlin should be able to handle this many axes as well.

  • @richardepps8500
    @richardepps8500 2 года назад

    This needs to be the new standard for fdm printers

    • @CodeBroRob
      @CodeBroRob 2 года назад

      i would agree, but this would skyrocket the price up drastically due to the fact it uses more stepper motors, the board needs more electronics, and cheapening out on some of these parts wouldn't seem like a good idea, so all in all most printers would double in price like this specific design which is the contrary of what companies attempt to do rn, which is to make printers with as many features for prices as low as possible to convince more people into buying a printer.
      after all, the biggest obstacle for everyone back 8-10 years ago was the price tag of printers like ultimaker which just seemed a little too crazy to spend to try it out

  • @laurahaaima1436
    @laurahaaima1436 2 года назад +1

    Er zijn wel onderdelen die bij bepaalde bewegingen immens resoneren..

  • @stefanguiton
    @stefanguiton 2 года назад +2

    Great work!

  • @DanSlotea
    @DanSlotea 2 года назад +2

    so where are the 4th and 5th dimensions?

  • @567legodude
    @567legodude Год назад

    What I'm finding from all of these projects is that the slicer is the current limitation. I'm genuinely surprised nobody has done work to make one of these available.

  • @sirkingjamz101
    @sirkingjamz101 2 года назад

    I feel like this video is meant for the main enterance played on a muted tv lol but ntl super dope!!!

  • @techdesign2832
    @techdesign2832 2 года назад

    Amazing Hendrik Hammer 🔨🔨

  • @bukszpryt_
    @bukszpryt_ 2 года назад

    I have a printer that has rotating table, but the rotation is not used for printing (the printer also has some shitty 3d scanning mode). It could theoretically help printing perfect circles, but i have no idea if and how it could be integrated in printing process, let alone into slicer.
    For now, the ability to ratate has only downsides in this printer, as sometimes when the nozzle hits some part of badly laid filament, it can rotate the whole bed and the print is ruined. There was a mechanism that blocked rotation, but it can't be used now.
    The printer is Aio Robotics Zeus. Old project from 2014-2015 with some potential, but it never got popular as originally it was really expensive.

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 2 года назад

      Perhaps start with polar coordinates in marlin/klipper and expand with IK from there? Out of my depth, just throwing out some buzz words. As for blocking rotation, you could always disconnect the motor I guess.

    • @bukszpryt_
      @bukszpryt_ 2 года назад

      disconnecting the motor won't block abything.
      it's quite the oppposite. the stepper could hołd the rotation if it had proper signal turned on, but i have no idea how it's connected and controlled and i don't want to disassemble the whole thing to find out.
      downsides of a project abandoned by it's makers.

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 2 года назад

      @@bukszpryt_ Of course, makes sense. Permanently holding the motor with a firmware mod doesn't seem like a good fix either. Perhaps the devs could advise you if approached directly?

  • @stickyfox
    @stickyfox 2 года назад +41

    This printer is a 3D printer with 5 axes. There are no 5-dimensional objects coming out of it.

    • @Guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
      @Guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 2 года назад +5

      🤓

    • @ehinders2000
      @ehinders2000 2 года назад +12

      How would you be able to tell from a 2d image?

    • @nathan1sixteen
      @nathan1sixteen 2 года назад +3

      @@ehinders2000 because there are only 4 dimension, the 4th being time. So, unless you can tell us what the 5th dimension is, how can it be a 5D printer

    • @ehinders2000
      @ehinders2000 2 года назад +1

      @@nathan1sixteen Hypercubes?

    • @ME-bw3rl
      @ME-bw3rl 2 года назад +1

      I was so DISAPPOINTED

  • @andrewdok3595
    @andrewdok3595 Год назад

    Hi there so how about list of multi-axes slicers? Or how I can test your software or even 5 axes G-code?

  • @squa_81
    @squa_81 2 года назад +1

    Impressive!

  • @laurahaaima1436
    @laurahaaima1436 2 года назад +1

    Holy cow.. wat geniaal.

  • @michaelwuthrich72
    @michaelwuthrich72 2 года назад +4

    Very nice. Congratulations! How did you slice?

    • @hendrikjank3977
      @hendrikjank3977  2 года назад +8

      To test if the 7 axes can be controlled via G codes.
      I sliced the square tower in 3d.
      Then sliced a round tube in 3d.
      Then merged the 2 G code files together and adjusted them manually.
      Which was a very time consuming job.

    • @michaelwuthrich72
      @michaelwuthrich72 2 года назад +3

      @@hendrikjank3977 I wonder, when we will have the first real multi-axis slicer... Hopefully soon.

    • @gcod3d161
      @gcod3d161 2 года назад

      @@hendrikjank3977 a few years ago I wrote a script to merge objects’ gcode together layer by layer (with some overlap for bonding), have you thought about writing a quick script to get it done? The rectangular tower with the cones doesn’t seem like it would take long to copy and paste the gcode of each individual part sequentially
      Edit: if you’re talking about adding in the gcode for rotation and all necessary between objects, I can see how that would be a pain

  • @williamchamberlain2263
    @williamchamberlain2263 Год назад

    Great work

  • @mohammadsd5902
    @mohammadsd5902 2 года назад

    Surprised! Great job.

  • @ryanoberfield756
    @ryanoberfield756 2 года назад

    finally! this exactly the key i was looking for for non ortho 3d printing! you hit the nail on the head with your design! is there a way i can pick your brain? whats the best way to PM you?

  • @RichardBaran
    @RichardBaran 2 года назад

    Really cool just wish I knew what was going on

  • @MrMadary
    @MrMadary 2 года назад

    this is so cool. by any chance, is there a build guide for this printer so one can build for his own?

  • @bennycroonen1854
    @bennycroonen1854 2 года назад

    Hallo Hendrik Jan een vraagje hoe heb jij de hoogte meet sensor gebouwd voor de 5 assen printer, ik zit met een 5 assen cnc fresmachine die ga ombouwen daar de orgineel besturing op niet veel trekt. en de machine te klein is voor een 3 D taster er op te zetten.
    Groetjes Benny

    • @hendrikjank3977
      @hendrikjank3977  2 года назад

      De bed level sensor bestaat uit een magneet spoel met losse kern .
      Aan deze kern zit de sensor meet stift.
      Deze wordt omhoog gehouden door een veertje.
      Als je spanning zet op de magneet spoel gaat hij omlaag.
      Aan de andere kant zit een lichtsluis.
      Welke wordt geactiveerd als de sensorstift omhoog wordt gedrukt.
      In marlin is deze benoemd als SOLENOID PROBE

  • @TireSpare
    @TireSpare 2 года назад

    wow its pretty cool. its functions like cnc 5axises i want to buy it at affordable prices with highend results

  • @Rin_Media
    @Rin_Media Год назад

    На такой принтер есть слайсер, или его пока не разработали?
    Если есть работающий слайсер, то дайте ссылку на скачивания?
    Я хочу изготовить подобный 5d принтер своими руками, и хотел бы иметь возможность им пользоваться, а без слайсера такой 5d принтер не будет интересен...

  • @gold-junge91
    @gold-junge91 2 года назад

    wow, this is really awesome, i would love to talk to you in more detail, i have over 2 years experience with 3d printing in the industrial sector (printing shoes, drone with range over 200km)

  • @yerpudeelectronics
    @yerpudeelectronics 2 года назад +1

    it's really very cool, Great job. Please tell me the printing speed?

  • @johnkim3858
    @johnkim3858 2 года назад

    Would not it be 6-axis achieved by seven motors? Rather than 7-axis?

  • @othoapproto9603
    @othoapproto9603 2 года назад

    Someday this will be a standard. what not benchy?

  • @SeniorRed1337
    @SeniorRed1337 2 года назад

    Damn cool :D! i want it!

  • @RixtronixLAB
    @RixtronixLAB 2 года назад

    Nice video, thanks :)

  • @aaronmarkstaller
    @aaronmarkstaller 2 года назад

    Nice looks sweet!
    Is the multi axis 5d slicer publicly available? I’d like to use it and help develop

  • @scopiusscopius6508
    @scopiusscopius6508 Год назад

    Where can I contact you? i have tcpc compilation problem

    • @hendrikjank3977
      @hendrikjank3977  Год назад

      The tcpc software was developed and written by DerAndere1.
      If you have questions about this then the best way is to contact him on.
      github.com/DerAndere1/contact_DerAndere1
      See also info at the end of:
      github.com/DerAndere1/Marlin/issues/55

    • @scopiusscopius6508
      @scopiusscopius6508 Год назад

      @@hendrikjank3977 It's a pity that I can't create a github account

    • @scopiusscopius6508
      @scopiusscopius6508 Год назад

      @@hendrikjank3977 HOW CAN I FEEDBACK TO HIM ABOUT THE 3-POINT BED BALANCED NOT WORKING, I WANT TO CLOSE THE CONSTRUCTION TESTS BUT CAN'T SIGN THE ACCOUNT

    • @scopiusscopius6508
      @scopiusscopius6508 10 месяцев назад

      @@hendrikjank3977 I still can't create an account on github. I have configured everything perfectly for cnc testing. There have been steps to test gcode, straight motion is ok. Movement with g2/g3 is extremely slow. I cannot communicate with DerAndere1. I hope you can respond to DerAndere1

  • @BelSei
    @BelSei 2 года назад

    I'd be impressed to learn which the 5 dimensions are; As far as I know there are only 3 dimensions. Please enlighten me.🤣😂

  • @JoelRehra
    @JoelRehra 2 года назад

    7dof 3D printer would be acurate... 5D is a slight strech right? ;)

  • @ME-bw3rl
    @ME-bw3rl 2 года назад

    Here has been a research project like this a few years ago 🤔

  • @HelgeKeck
    @HelgeKeck 2 года назад

    impressive

  • @mylespoole5044
    @mylespoole5044 2 года назад +1

    nice!

  • @IN3DPHONGDMST
    @IN3DPHONGDMST 2 года назад

    please, video tutorial to create gocde file with python

  • @nocknock4832
    @nocknock4832 2 года назад

    very cool!

  • @buder5116
    @buder5116 2 года назад +1

    no sound or im crazy ?

  • @chveyk
    @chveyk 2 года назад

    5Д? Печатает в пространстве и времени?

    • @mr-grey4135
      @mr-grey4135 2 года назад

      И в параллельной реальности

  • @stonecraft745
    @stonecraft745 2 года назад

    All cool but there's no slicer

  • @Mr_i_o
    @Mr_i_o 2 года назад

    Wow!

  • @risingmoon893
    @risingmoon893 2 года назад +1

    You guys should make a company and sell your 3d printers.

  • @Sky_4ai
    @Sky_4ai 2 года назад

    very nice)

  • @brainfarth
    @brainfarth 2 года назад

    #if NUM_AXES >= 9... I dunno where to even start

  • @shottysteve
    @shottysteve 2 года назад

    ugh my headphones are broken again

  • @hendrikjank3977
    @hendrikjank3977  2 года назад

    New video posted .
    Testing TCPC on my multi-axis 3D printer.
    ruclips.net/video/zuVrveG5VXw/видео.html

  • @YvonneTrice
    @YvonneTrice 2 месяца назад

    7 axis 5d printer

  • @nakwadroid
    @nakwadroid 2 года назад

    Please make this open source!

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 2 года назад

    This is still 3D.

  • @Jellylazer
    @Jellylazer 2 года назад +1

    Not watching the video, just here to say: Gravity. It is still just a 3d printer with more failure points than necessary.

  • @JurekOK
    @JurekOK 2 года назад +1

    It seems you are out of ideas for what to print that utilizes nonplanar slicing. AKA: Just learn to use nylon screws instead.

  • @W0UTER31
    @W0UTER31 2 года назад +1

    Unpopular opinion: 5D doesn't exist, only multi-axes 3D printing

  • @ericlotze7724
    @ericlotze7724 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely stunning project!, and i thought #Open5x was good!
    (Granted i guess it can be like Prusa->Voron/RatRig/HevORT erc, each has their place, but D a m n, S e v e n A x i s?)
    (AND work on a Slicer?!?)
    I’m excited to see what comes from this, and keep up the great work!

  • @WheatMillington
    @WheatMillington 2 года назад

    My ears are lonely.

  • @Arjan-swets
    @Arjan-swets 2 года назад

    geinig...

  • @makerbotplanet
    @makerbotplanet Год назад

    This is a 3D printer. Please don't use phrases like "5D printer," it just sounds stupid, like it were named by a child. It's embarrassing to say. This is a 3D printer.

  • @ygberg
    @ygberg 2 года назад +1

    CLICKBAIT!!! You can add as many axis in the machine as you want and it still will only be a 3d print! As you should know the 4th dimension is time. And 5th or higher is only in quantum mechanics!

  • @dodman0907153500
    @dodman0907153500 2 года назад

    you clearly don't have an idea what 5d means...

  • @comedyclub333
    @comedyclub333 2 года назад

    "5D" yeah no. Kinda misleading.

  • @VovelPunch
    @VovelPunch 2 года назад

    very nice!

  • @glodigit
    @glodigit 2 года назад +3

    As someone that had a IDEXY, 5 axis, toolchanging FDM 3D printer project (now archived but documented: search gd0036), this is very interesting to see!

    • @gcod3d161
      @gcod3d161 2 года назад

      IDEXY as in collaborative multi-printhead?

    • @glodigit
      @glodigit 2 года назад

      @@gcod3d161 That was one of the goals, which was to enable to print with 2 nozzles working on the current layer, reducing the print time for larger objects and effectively getting twice the printer for smaller objects.