3D printers that can print with 5-axis Control | The 5 Best 5 Axis 3D printers in 2021
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The top 5 3D printers as of 2021 with 5-AXIS control
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The main obstacle for a 5 axis 3d printer/CNC machine isn't in the actual machine itself but the software/slicer that can actually program the toolpaths.
i dont think that is a big problem. 5 axis machining is not something new, but yeah, i dont think Free 5 axis Slicers will appear so soon.
By the time I'm 50, I'll have a mini factory in my bedroom. This space is moving so fast!
Great video! I would love to see one without music though and instead the sounds of the machines.
The sound of my 3d printers, cnc router, 5 axis cnc, flow jet and lasers are too much now lol.
The music drives me away... sorry.
@@damonr.p.8211 good
I'd love to see that such machines emit music and not noise.
For those that want to hear the sound of the machine functioning do not own any of the above .
Awesome video!
What about 5axis slicers? I'm curious about it.
yes, that is the real question.
Well with 5 axis you dont have to use "slicer", you simply generate proper code in 5 or 6 axis CAM + CAD with generative design options. Its not very hard to write a post-processor that will add material instead of removing it. And today CAM software is excellent in generating complex paths like that.
Please rethink the music though! Otherwise very good start!
Thanks for the feedback! Still learning my way around the platform
I would like to see more complex affordable 3D printers and that’s good 😌... look out on the audio! It is very important if you are not to deep into audio let someone who is very much in to it listen in! Some people are more visually some are more in to audio! These can help you a big deal! Find them you probably do well!
@@MarsGadgets A link to a video without this nerving music would be the best solution ;-)
Have you ever heard of blanching the audio volume? I don’t understand what your saying over that godawful music
To improve the print speed and quality we need to get these 5 axis printers in the hands of 3d makers, that way it can be all sorted out much faster and for less money.
Make one
@@linecraftman3907 I am hopping more MAKERs do build them, but the slicer program is where we need guys with programing skills to step up. The hardware part we can work out.
@@Robothut If you make a good job document the build make a parts list and open source everything Yosef might make you the software wouldn't be the first time think White Knight .
I dont like the idea of mixing machines and having dust potentially get into my prints. It will happen there is no way around it. Id rather have separate machines, and so i do.
I am exploring making another printer 4-5 axis using servos, linear rails, and screws.
Already have the 4/5 cnc and its far more rigid, so no point down grading. Built that myself too.
Swiss knife aproach, I see. Shitty at everything, but I guess a cool gimmick, or expensive paper weight.
Print quality and speed is so bad. You can do it better with a 3d-Pen.
My thoughts exactly. Looking at how unstable those tool heads are is just asking for shitty prints, totally negating any benefit it could've provided. Also I can't think of any reason to combine additive and reductive manufacturing machines into one. It's a non-issue and only worsens the quality of both.
So... the big question.,.. what slicer do you use ?
Yup. Like copying the design and making it work as just a 3d printer for a lot less is absolutely doable. You only need to add a rotating bed. But at least for me software would be the worst problem. 1. Slicer, but 2. What to use on a main board?
@@bubume8277 a slicer transforms it to gcode, you can use any firmware that is capable of handling that, duet for example would be ablt to do it. reprapfirmware with a skr gtr would do it..
@@KeesHessels Huh. Good to know. I know a little about hardware, but not much about software in 3d printers. Soo if you are right then the only big problem is the slicer. I would like to build a printer like this to at least see for what it can be useful, but for sure I would fail at code and etc. At least at first.
@@bubume8277 Yea, if you are looking for 5d slicers they are around, but come with a hefty price tag from either siemens or as a fusion360 plugin from some other company, I haven't researched it thoroughly tho, so i might be wrong on that, but so far i haven't found a opensource solution and i doubt the regular players are willing to invest time\money for essentially recreating their slicer core, it would be a maior project for what is a very small market right now (hardware wise)
@@KeesHessels a slicer does turn an STL into gcode but its a tool path file not magic.
a gcode file generated for a standard 3d printer isn't going to work on a 5th axis mill or 3d printer.
you have to generate a gcode file for the specific machines capabilities. they're not smart. they do exactly what their told to do.
for CNC mills the program that makes the gcode file is called a post processor not a slicer.
its called a slicer for 3d printing because it literally slices the model into layers and generates gcode for it.
if you try to run a sliced gcode file on a cnc mill your going to have a bad time.
$25K for absolute shit final quality. Yeah ok.
yeah, could have just toggled the "3D print support" checkbox on
Who is going to buy it? It is expensive even for a company. I get it. It can make parts stronger probably... "probably" because in the video they are making those parts weaker, like at 7:31. Normally seam would go around the whole object, here seam is going only thru the rotor blade. If the reason is smoothness not strength, then use resin 3D printer.
It seams it is only good for like all-in-one use. Like it was shown on a video here 4:43 Because you can't do it on normal 3d printer. But as just 3d printer alone it is meh.
Two additional axes to calibrate for days on end...
@@ThisPageIntentionallyLeftBlank yup. Imagine leveling your bed in this configuration xP
5 axis cnc milling machine makers show off their talent on 3d printing, it is not feasible for everyone.
And absolutely it is not for a regular maker, because you have to use CAM-like software to do the task.
Bu it works as a charm , I would love to have it even if I have cheap 3d printer at home.
As for the calibration, it seems that it does not need to calibrate and it has auto bedleveling function as well.
@@myetis1990 Of course it has autoleveling but it also cost more than a good car. I was thinking about a cheep 5 axis printer made "RepRap" way.
And like 3D printers can make shapes impossible to achieve by CNC machines, this is like one of the reasons why metal 3D printing exists.
Soo I still don't get the point of 5 axis printers.
It mostly looks just like a show off that doesn't bring anything useful. Or more like an addition to a CNC machine.
If cost is not a problem, then use injection molding instead. You will have a strong part in any direction. Also propeller that they were printing could have been made with a CNC soo if you have a CNC why you would want to use 5 axis 3D printer for that?
If it was just a prototype you could just print the same propeller on a 200$ printer.
But if you have a super good 3D printer then you could make a really strong part by using super expensive filaments that melt at 400C and by printing in a chamber which this 5 axis printers seams to not have.
For me those 5 axis printers are only good if you want a all-in-one machine that is also a okay 3D printer.
In any different case, methods that already exist are much cheaper or make a better job, or even both.
..ALL tech is “expensive” at the start…
1st- Instead of rotating 5Axis Head , Rotation 5 Axis or even 3 Axis Base plate form would be would more accurate and sturdy.
2nd- Both 5Xis Print Head and Build Plate form and Object could be Used for Even greater unprecedented results.
Thanks
Regards
There is a problem with the parts separating from the print bed if the bed has 3 axis. It just introduces more warping/ peeling issues to 3d printing.
It'll be great for heavy parts yk
0:21 ...without compromising surface quality...
@Nani Nano No. FDM printers can do better. Most of them.
@Nani Nano Damn. Then what kind of printers do you use or how poorly do you use them. An Ender 3 pro can make 10x times better job than that and it cost only 200$. I hate that printer because I spent more time fixing and calibrating it than printing and now I am building my own printer. But still quality that I was able to get after a calibration was really good. 100x times better that whatever it is on the video.
@@bubume8277 Nice, what printer are you building? I'm trying to convince my job to buy stuff for a voron 2.4 so I can build it but I don't think they'll budge.
@@BigPapiLoc I am designing my own, I hope to finish designing it this week. Few of the parts I already have, like linear rails from HIWIN. About voron, a tone of ppl recommended me to build this printer. Even in hobby stores they have full or almost full kits to make a voron. So there must be something good about it. It uses linear rails if I am not wrong and it is a cube like build, so from this alone it sounds like a good idea. I need something more specific tho. I am more about precision than speed if we talk about printers, so I am making a machine that will fit my needs.
But. If you want to build something that was already tested then probably go and make a voron.
@@bubume8277 Holy... from a ender 3 pro to designing your own printer that's pretty fucking awesome. I hope to get to that point someday lol
The sound production on this video leads me to distrust these guys
... people can use salt annealing form cheap regular 3d printer to achieve higher quality... these might be for something else
What is that process? Can you provide more information?
@@MarsGadgets there are some results in the google search, it’s using fine salt powder cover a fully printed part (not hollow) then keep in oven for hours... there are some youtubers made some videos about it.
@@minercraftal Very interesting! I'll learn more about that process, thank you!
@@MarsGadgets Go look the videos from CNC Kitchen
@@MarsGadgets Remove print head replace with gutted syringe run wire electrodes and earth the build plate :)
then fill with the requisite metal salt for your application can use multiple syringes for bimetal strips or memory metals too.
After reading the comments, I will pass on this video.
It's like, I was reading the 1 star reviews on Amazon...and didn't buy.
0:26 Are you joking? That is HORRIBLE quality! Look at those extrusion lines... its like a 4 year old doing frosting.
Hey I resent that remark. I was pretty good at frosting cut out cookies when I was 4'ish...
...and I haven't even watched the video...yet...should I?🤔
I was looking for a fourth axis solution. Not 5!
...and those cookies were great!
...tasting.🚯
Make it 3D print, then come back with a bit to give it a machine quality finish?
and soon creality will make similar printer for only 499.. maybe
250k , thats alot of key chains to sell on etsy to make up for its cost
I rather expend 20c in support material for the print
This doesn’t make sense at all. 5 axis 3d printing is pointless . You can print the same
very annoying music
Very bad music. Highest volume too!
You are totally right! Thanks for your feedback, will work on improving the quality
I want one.
Hopefully this all goes open source
I was really interested in this video but I simply didn't want to watch any more after 30 seconds due to the music. Please consider making videos without music.
Thank you for the feedback! The fact that the music sucked was a very popular opinion among the commenters. Will work on improving the quality of the videos!
Are you serious about that music? Watch your videos with headphones and try to concentrate.
100% right, the music quality is terrible and I will work on improving the quality
This is one step closer to machines that will be able to manufacture themselves
shut up... AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!
Do not join milling and 3d printer. You are join all cons together: heavy weight head, low accuracy cheap machining, etc...
Do not use 5 axis machining without tool length sensor
Yes and all the dust/shaving. This is really bad for 3d printing
Not every job requires micron precision... jebus dude. they arent making it to compete in against the aerospace industry's or precision requirements. plastic wont hold up in that world.
@@darkshadowsx5949 - Its not about precision, its about Cost, even a bad printer/milling cost a lot because u NEED to have a minimum robust structure for milling, and that adds Weight, and for printing, you need fast accelerations, not a problem if you have very little weight, but that is not the case if you have a heavy structure made for milling.
If u buy 2 machines, one for each task, u will get better quality and speed, paying LESS.
Joining these 2 process on small scale manufacture, makes zero sense.
Put a 2mm nozzle on a 1m³ printer/milling, then we can talk
Yeah that is not correct. I own many mills and printers and have been doing CNC industial size since the 90s. These issues do not exist if you have a good build quality and good engineering architecture. One day when I have time, I will upload a video and show you.
@@mophie6941 you first print, then machine, not the other way around.
What is the name of the slicer?
Please loose this frantic muzak
And i am shocked to see such a bad quality of the 3d printed parts
I can say that these machines can do different jobs mediocat at best
C'mon maaan. Its just a beginning. First planar 3d printed "parts" were terrible quality as well
Amazing😎👌
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So to understand this printer removes the "level your bed" stupid procedure from the regular (faux) 3d printers?!
What about the other major problem? under and over extrusion?
My 300$ 3d is worth 5000$ after see this video.
Send me one for free and I'll help.
The real problem is, you think you know what you are doing.
If you can't get the additive right you're sure gonna mess up on the subrcation.
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3d printing is great for many things but I don't think it should be replacing injection molding plastic parts.
Mate that music... Sucks
Thanks for the feedback! Will work on improving the quality!
Wouldn't really call this the next step in 3D printing (or CNCing for that matter). I only ever see this being useful in a few select cases of industrial applications. Even then, it'd probably be better to just get separate 3D printer and CNC machines.
A 3D printer IS A CNC MACHINE.... its computer numeric controlled. it just has a different tool head on it.
your confused and thinking a CNC mill or Turning center(lathe) is the definition of CNC. which its NOT.
3D printers are just a new branch of the CNC world. its not machining but its still CNC.
@@darkshadowsx5949 pedant
I can see this being useful in at least half of the applications out there for 3D printing.
Missing listing with names and links to these devices.
Now I know how the 5th dimension look like.
perverse, but too expensive for me...
just get a sls printer. but this 5 axis printer is good for metal printing
my wallet is crying
on this episode of I CAN'T AFFORD THAT....
Don't worry, it's not even a question about how much money do you have but because all theses solutions described here are patented by biggers company…
Finaly
5 axis seems like a big jump! Why would these printers be better than a resin printer?
different material capabilities and ability to machine a broken part down and fix it.
ability to print on a curved surface like shown in the video.
Well, SLA printers (Stereo lithography) have far more resolution and quality than the almost obsolete FDM (fused deposition modeling, or melting a tube) printers....
Sensing no bias at all in your comment...
@@CWelton6 I only mention that because I saw a RUclips video
Spoken like someone who owns neither. The materials for SLA are nowhere near as diverse or useful as in FDM. SLA printers are mostly small build volume. There are a lot of toxic chemicals and cleanup involved with SLA. For the small improvement you get in part resolution, there are a great many downsides and tradeoffs that you did not consider, or even know about. A decent customised FDM printer can do exceptionally well, good quality, strong and durable parts, and in materials and sizes not really possible with SLA. So no, FDM is not obsolete, it is still a growing and developing field.
wow very impressive.
Price range way out of realty.
Too bad your video was unable to show any projects from start to finish.
Thanks for your feedback!
It very much seems like all of these being extremely overpriced because someone spend to much tim doing r&d..
HALO World's First Consumer Oriented 5 Axis, price $25000 😁😁😁
you just need to sell your two 15k prusa printers.
Halo looks really awesome
Some women spend more than that on a handbag dude
Cringe music
holy shit, nice solutions, but pricy af!
i'm surprised you could swear without youtube auto deleting your comment.
they delete mine every time i do it. i dont swear at people just reactive like your comment.
creality please watch this!!
This is nowhere near new