Talk to Michael. He might make you one for one of your Hand Tool Rescue wrenches. (I noticed that one of the other designs he looked at used an HTR wrench as the item to hold.)
I don't know what you're paying youtube for promoting your channel, but it's probably worth it. I was also recommended your fractal vice video out of the blue a few weeks ago, and have since subscribed and been enjoying your back catalog. You're doing amazing work.
First time I had come across your channel and I was an instant fan. Great technical skill and humour. Needless to say your fractal vise video was very inspiriational.
It's a really sad thing that the fractal vise was lost to time, it's such a good device, and seeing its restoration to having a place of prominence and popularity is kinda heart warming.
@puncledorf : The problem with a fractal vice is that it is not really a substitute for a normal parallel-jaw vice, so you need to have space for it as well. For instance, if you want to hold a small object, it gets very 'fiddly'. Admittedly the fractal vice I used was a monster. 😜
Its a very cool device for sure but its not really any more useful then a normal vice most of the time. From what iv seen of people using these is they actually dont hold certain objects as good as you think. The way it distributes the weight tends to leave room for what ever you put in the vice to start sliding out if you are doing some really intense work on what is in the vice.
@@billfred9411 Huh, I'd think that the vise would hook under bits and make it really hard to slide in any direction besides maybe a pulling/leveraging it up from the vise. Can't image it would slip down or up the vise.
@@pubcle Notice how everything is laying flat in this video? When i say up and down i mean vertically from were you would be looking at the vice. It will grip around the shape and hold it very well in that regard. what i mean is it slips vertically. The example i saw this with was Adam savage using it to drill a hole in a glass bottle which i will add is no easy feat and he used this vice. The problem was the bottle would slip vertically as he drilled it because the vice doesint have much vertical grip. I should also add if its a very solid object you could just crank it super tight and whatever's in probably wont budge at all . you could likley modify the vice to entirely solve that problem i mentioned as well.
@@PiefacePete46 they make a large and small “jewelers version”. Adam Savage from that old discovery channel show I forget what it’s called recently bought one on alibaba and made a video of it. They come in 2 different sizes. The large one is around 2,500$ usd
Your split design also allows you to use different facing materials. Could sub in steel, brass, wood. Perfect for working on delicate pieces. This vise would be great for gunsmiths in particular, I think.
I worked seriously enough on the fractals for a while and can say this is the most amazing hand-made product related to fractals I ever saw. Thank you for sharing!
I don’t have a 3D printer but this video is just incredible. So detailed and such a good walk through on building and assembly. And the fully open source aspect is just amazing to see after all the work you put in to making this.
This is absolutely outstanding. It offers the perfect grip on the object it's holding. Shows how powerful fractals are, and shows how they can be applied in real life to make cool and unique fuctions. It may not do as well as rhe normal vices. I feel like a semi sphere shaped version of this design would make it even more affective when it comes to more 3 dimensional objects
@@koopdi I'll try to explain the best I can on how I imagine it going down. instead of the vice being like the way it is in the video (2 dimensional) the parts would resemble more 3 dimensional all connected with a joint system that has circular freedom like ball and socket joints all working down into a fractal as shown in this video but instead of being flat it should be almost like a ball that is in 2 halves all descending down into smaller and smaller self-similar parts of it's self-giving a 3-dimensional grip on an object making desired objects less likely to slip ad there is more of a grip area. hope that makes sense. I'm no genius I wouldn't even know where to start with creating such a thing it's just an idea. it would require more parts but it could work
Makes sense. I might have a go at modelling something like that later. I didn't think of the ball/socket. Good idea. I was thinking of the same dovetail track system but with each segment rotated 90deg from it's parent.@@sizzleshnizzle9484
Glad I'm not the only one that came to the same sad conclusion that these fractal vises just are not available anywhere, anymore. So cool you did this vid @teaching tech I'm going to make one with my children now! Super Cool!
I saw a TikTok of one of these while I was high and i thought it was one of the cleverest applications of fractal engineering ever. Sober now still think it’s the coolest fractal design.
I'm not sure of the repeatability of location of the part in such a vise. Simple enough to find out: can you clamp something in two different orientations? Also will the piece stay firmly against an end stop?This matters a great deal in CNC machining.
@@HuFlungDung2 I agree to a certain extent, i'm sure that as it is, it wont have the repeatability, a bench vise also does not have the accuracy epeatability of a machine vise, but I don' t see why that could not be solved, on the other hand, having to make fixtures all the time kinda sucks as well...a whole lot of effort goes into making fixtures, and often the accuracy is not that great either... I agree if we are dealing with precise cnc' s 0.001mm accuracy, its a bit difficult, way to many moving parts, but 0.01 region should be attainable, especially if you use something like a kinetic lock system and\or have the ability to lock the radiants in place...not saying its a one fit solution at all, but I do think it could save a lot on fixturing...a very usable tool in the arsenal of a machinist...
Probably because of all the moving parts, many which look sort of proprietary, it must have been expensive to manufacture and even more expensive to repair. Just a guess.
I don't have a 3-D Printer, nor do I have a workshop - or any other woodworking tools save my Dremel and the ones that come in a typical household toolkit. I loved watching this because...I'm an artist! And that fractal vise of yours, my friend, is art.
You have my respect, dear sir. I don't own a 3D printer, nor do I plan on making this vice, but since I am an architect and I do practice a lot of product and furniture design, I know how work-intensive this was and I can only imagine how many iterations of this vice you've tested before you achieved this. Making this video and the open-source STL files is pure gold. I do hope you add 2 more zeros at the end of the views counter. You truly deserve this!
I noticed that late on and didn't want to disassembled and flip things around. I should probably do that. Wasn't sure if anyone would notice so well spotted!
I watched the restoration video a couple of weeks ago and decided I had to have one. But it never occurred to me to print one. This is amazing. Thanks.
This tool is definitely something I could use on the daily when it comes to building fpv builds, and doing the wiring. I definitely could use one of these. Man I need to invest in a 3D printer
This clearly demonstrates the revolutionary consequences it will have once metal 3D printing becomes accessible and goes mainstream to people's homes. Can you imagine?
Dude! I watched the Hand Tool Rescue video, and 45 seconds in I was thinking, "my gods! WHY aren't these being made anymore!? The patent MUST be expired by now! I wonder if I could 3D print one!?" ...and here you are! And you OPEN-SOURCED IT! Brother, I could KISS you! You ABSOLUTELY just earned the like/sub/bell/share/comment! THANK you!
We have some of the same RUclips algorithms, b/c I watched the Hand Tool Rescue vid a while back and loved it, too. Even more awesome that you chased this far. Well done.
Thank you for sharing this with us. I got my first 3d printer last July, that is when I first saw this video. Now I have 3 and I think maybe enough experience to finally try this out. I think you are an amazing designer and once again, thank you!
Man, this is effing cool! I love tools that adjust themselves/reshape themselves (Like Contour Gauges, Auto channel-lock pliers, etc), Now THIS??? This would have been so useful in so many of the random projects I take up (only would need/want it in metal)
I'm new to all of this, I'm researching to get started on the 3d printing world and I most say that this is amazing work and total admiration and respect to you for sharing your work and contribute to the community making it open source. Congrats and just subscribed to your channel.
I think we all have the same idea when we watched the hand tools rescue video XD you did a flawless video with a lot of effort and people still putting dislikes I can't believe it
Ok, hear me out- print this out with low infill and single layer wall thickness, then do a "lost-pla" casting with aluminum, and voila, metal fractal vise!
agmcmll here, was surprised to see my design mentioned in this video! The bench dog I designed also requires no supports, and will not self disassemble. To accomplish this I used a grub screw and corresponding groove like the original. I'll be adding some tweaks and uploading the .step files for my design as well when I get a bit of free time, hopefully this weekend.
@@TeachingTech Thanks! It should print easily. Assembly is not too bad, but the big tweak I want to make is to add counterbores so a single bolt length will do instead of 3.
Well done! thank you so much for making the project open source and sharing it with the community!! You are wonderful steward in upholding the values that makes this community great!!!
The design makes total sense. Love them. I also love the wooden-handled screwdrivers and have a few; one Irwin for a Government tool, one from W. Germany and one from Germany (from before there were two).
I'm soon to have a workbench in my garage, and I'd be super excited to modify the fractal vise to mount onto dog holes. I build a lot of oddly shaped props and replicas, and I think it would be super useful.
Thanks ,I'm starting out and your channel will be an invaluable source of wisdom and guidance through out looking forward to reaching this echelons and thanking you for the guidance
That's a very neat item! Useful to hold complex objects when painting them. If you can make a swivel mechanism to move the vice (and the object) on 3 axis it would make the task even easier. Very cool.
There are times I see something and say "i wish I had a 3d printer. Then I'd make that" this isnt one of those times cause theres no way in hell I could do this. Super cool!
Hi Micheal, so glad to see you're a fan too. I also saw that restoration video and became obsessed. Tried to create my own print, failed, went to Thingiverse but disappointed with the early models. Yours looks amazing and I'll definitely be giving it a go. Many thanks!
Great work!!!!! I saw the video of restorating the old vise too and wanted it to have!!! And you made it 3D? Great work, stunning. And great thanks to you :-)
I need one of these!
haaha
Talk to Michael. He might make you one for one of your Hand Tool Rescue wrenches. (I noticed that one of the other designs he looked at used an HTR wrench as the item to hold.)
Looks like everybody made fractal vises after your video.
I don't know what you're paying youtube for promoting your channel, but it's probably worth it. I was also recommended your fractal vice video out of the blue a few weeks ago, and have since subscribed and been enjoying your back catalog. You're doing amazing work.
First time I had come across your channel and I was an instant fan. Great technical skill and humour. Needless to say your fractal vise video was very inspiriational.
It's a really sad thing that the fractal vise was lost to time, it's such a good device, and seeing its restoration to having a place of prominence and popularity is kinda heart warming.
@puncledorf : The problem with a fractal vice is that it is not really a substitute for a normal parallel-jaw vice, so you need to have space for it as well. For instance, if you want to hold a small object, it gets very 'fiddly'. Admittedly the fractal vice I used was a monster. 😜
Its a very cool device for sure but its not really any more useful then a normal vice most of the time. From what iv seen of people using these is they actually dont hold certain objects as good as you think. The way it distributes the weight tends to leave room for what ever you put in the vice to start sliding out if you are doing some really intense work on what is in the vice.
@@billfred9411 Huh, I'd think that the vise would hook under bits and make it really hard to slide in any direction besides maybe a pulling/leveraging it up from the vise. Can't image it would slip down or up the vise.
@@pubcle Notice how everything is laying flat in this video? When i say up and down i mean vertically from were you would be looking at the vice. It will grip around the shape and hold it very well in that regard. what i mean is it slips vertically. The example i saw this with was Adam savage using it to drill a hole in a glass bottle which i will add is no easy feat and he used this vice. The problem was the bottle would slip vertically as he drilled it because the vice doesint have much vertical grip. I should also add if its a very solid object you could just crank it super tight and whatever's in probably wont budge at all . you could likley modify the vice to entirely solve that problem i mentioned as well.
@@PiefacePete46 they make a large and small “jewelers version”. Adam Savage from that old discovery channel show I forget what it’s called recently bought one on alibaba and made a video of it. They come in 2 different sizes. The large one is around 2,500$ usd
I don't think the sentence, "Next, I decided to service my kazoo" has ever been said in a video before
I came here for the Kazoo.. I'm kinda addicted to makeing them, I even bought a circle cutter on Amazon to streamline the process.
If this isn't a euphemism, I don't know what is...
@@evanphi Came here to say the same lol
it's actually a common term if you're in the habit of banana clamping.
Oh... but it has... Just not the type of video that RUclips would typically allow to be posted. LMAO
the day I found these, I was so taken aback about how incredibly useful these are
kudos to the inventor
Your split design also allows you to use different facing materials. Could sub in steel, brass, wood. Perfect for working on delicate pieces. This vise would be great for gunsmiths in particular, I think.
Lapidary also.
I worked seriously enough on the fractals for a while and can say this is the most amazing hand-made product related to fractals I ever saw. Thank you for sharing!
I hope HandToolRescue sees this, they would love this!
indeed
That's where I've this as well.
Pretty sure he's why this video exists!
looked for this reference, was not disappointed.
You're about 20 hours early
your solution for that constraining lip was really well done
I don’t have a 3D printer but this video is just incredible. So detailed and such a good walk through on building and assembly. And the fully open source aspect is just amazing to see after all the work you put in to making this.
This is absolutely outstanding. It offers the perfect grip on the object it's holding. Shows how powerful fractals are, and shows how they can be applied in real life to make cool and unique fuctions. It may not do as well as rhe normal vices. I feel like a semi sphere shaped version of this design would make it even more affective when it comes to more 3 dimensional objects
How would you keep the semi spheres attached to each other?
@@koopdi I'll try to explain the best I can on how I imagine it going down. instead of the vice being like the way it is in the video (2 dimensional) the parts would resemble more 3 dimensional all connected with a joint system that has circular freedom like ball and socket joints all working down into a fractal as shown in this video but instead of being flat it should be almost like a ball that is in 2 halves all descending down into smaller and smaller self-similar parts of it's self-giving a 3-dimensional grip on an object making desired objects less likely to slip ad there is more of a grip area. hope that makes sense. I'm no genius I wouldn't even know where to start with creating such a thing it's just an idea. it would require more parts but it could work
Makes sense. I might have a go at modelling something like that later. I didn't think of the ball/socket. Good idea. I was thinking of the same dovetail track system but with each segment rotated 90deg from it's parent.@@sizzleshnizzle9484
Glad I'm not the only one that came to the same sad conclusion that these fractal vises just are not available anywhere, anymore. So cool you did this vid @teaching tech I'm going to make one with my children now! Super Cool!
I saw a TikTok of one of these while I was high and i thought it was one of the cleverest applications of fractal engineering ever. Sober now still think it’s the coolest fractal design.
Why is this not a well known tool ? this is so handy in cnc machining the bottom, but also with some guides you have a straight vise... cool...
I bet you, ebay will have some Chinese suppliers offering this real soon :)
I'm not sure of the repeatability of location of the part in such a vise. Simple enough to find out: can you clamp something in two different orientations? Also will the piece stay firmly against an end stop?This matters a great deal in CNC machining.
@@HuFlungDung2 I agree to a certain extent, i'm sure that as it is, it wont have the repeatability, a bench vise also does not have the accuracy
epeatability of a machine vise, but I don' t see why that could not be solved, on the other hand, having to make fixtures all the time kinda sucks as well...a whole lot of effort goes into making fixtures, and often the accuracy is not that great either... I agree if we are dealing with precise cnc' s 0.001mm accuracy, its a bit difficult, way to many moving parts, but 0.01 region should be attainable, especially if you use something like a kinetic lock system and\or have the ability to lock the radiants in place...not saying its a one fit solution at all, but I do think it could save a lot on fixturing...a very usable tool in the arsenal of a machinist...
Probably because of all the moving parts, many which look sort of proprietary, it must have been expensive to manufacture and even more expensive to repair.
Just a guess.
That's pretty amazing what can be accomplished these days with 3d printing and some smarts and talent.
I saw the thumbnail for Hand Tool Rescue. Didn't realize it was so cool. I'm going to have to watch it now.
I would love to see this done in a filament or resin designed for metal casting. Taking the individual pieces and doing lost wax/pla/resin casting.
Agreed
I don't have a 3-D Printer, nor do I have a workshop - or any other woodworking tools save my Dremel and the ones that come in a typical household toolkit.
I loved watching this because...I'm an artist! And that fractal vise of yours, my friend, is art.
*AND* It's Open Source! Absolutely amazing project, keep up the great work!
Whoever came up with this thing is a goddamn genius. What an interesting design
If I owned a 3d printer. I would be all over this. This is so cool.
The instant I saw the thumbnail... "Well, SOMEONE's been watching Hand Tool Rescue..."
You have my respect, dear sir. I don't own a 3D printer, nor do I plan on making this vice, but since I am an architect and I do practice a lot of product and furniture design, I know how work-intensive this was and I can only imagine how many iterations of this vice you've tested before you achieved this. Making this video and the open-source STL files is pure gold. I do hope you add 2 more zeros at the end of the views counter. You truly deserve this!
Excellent work. One thing I would change is the direction you clamp things. Most clamps tighten in the clockwise direction.
I noticed that late on and didn't want to disassembled and flip things around. I should probably do that. Wasn't sure if anyone would notice so well spotted!
I watched the restoration video a couple of weeks ago and decided I had to have one. But it never occurred to me to print one. This is amazing. Thanks.
100+ year old vise design, that is no longer available.
Thank you for pointing out all of the folks who have modeled this. (Including you)
Superb presentation and thank you for helping upcoming designers.
I really need to take a few CAD classes to help me bring my ideas to life.
These are some of the first videos I made on the channel: ruclips.net/p/PLGqRUdq5ULsMDOxmu10AGPDIOkzNYu7D7
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This tool is definitely something I could use on the daily when it comes to building fpv builds, and doing the wiring. I definitely could use one of these. Man I need to invest in a 3D printer
This clearly demonstrates the revolutionary consequences it will have once metal 3D printing becomes accessible and goes mainstream to people's homes.
Can you imagine?
Dang, one for precision machining would allow for so many unique setups. Someone needs to get that done.
I work in a machine shop. I am going to take your design and instead of printing it, I will make it out of tool steel.
Wish me luck.
Awesome, please share when you're done.
Please do, as I have the same thoughts. But maybe I can just buy yours instead. Lol 👍
Dude! I watched the Hand Tool Rescue video, and 45 seconds in I was thinking, "my gods! WHY aren't these being made anymore!? The patent MUST be expired by now! I wonder if I could 3D print one!?" ...and here you are! And you OPEN-SOURCED IT!
Brother, I could KISS you! You ABSOLUTELY just earned the like/sub/bell/share/comment! THANK you!
Now someone needs to cast a vise using the lost PLA method. This vise is the gift that keeps on giving
I love that channel, they take some terrible looking tools and make them so beautiful!
First video I've seen of theirs but it won't be my last.
using filament for locating dowels....priceless. Great project and video!!
I'm glad someone did this, as i was really amazed watching that darn vice when it was originally restored.
Such a cool piece of tech.
i love the fact that you could use these very files to have the whole tool CNC'd and make a metal one
We have some of the same RUclips algorithms, b/c I watched the Hand Tool Rescue vid a while back and loved it, too. Even more awesome that you chased this far. Well done.
Thank you for sharing this with us. I got my first 3d printer last July, that is when I first saw this video. Now I have 3 and I think maybe enough experience to finally try this out. I think you are an amazing designer and once again, thank you!
You just got my subscription. And Hand Tool Rescue is a great source for older tools that made this world what it is today.
The next 6 months on the forums are going to be posts about this vise 🤦🏼♂️
You say that like it's a *bad* thing! : )
It was on HTR, it's already everywhere!
Hopefully people make extras. I want one but dont have this kind of free time
A very nice job. You have gone way out of your way to make a great piece. Thank you, Sir.
the best part is sharing his project and his effort for free ❤️
Man, this is effing cool! I love tools that adjust themselves/reshape themselves (Like Contour Gauges, Auto channel-lock pliers, etc), Now THIS??? This would have been so useful in so many of the random projects I take up (only would need/want it in metal)
Now some company will restart producing metal one 😂
I'm new to all of this, I'm researching to get started on the 3d printing world and I most say that this is amazing work and total admiration and respect to you for sharing your work and contribute to the community making it open source. Congrats and just subscribed to your channel.
Good job.I watched this video and now , i have bigger respect to engineers
Hmmm... I would add a hemispherical TPU 'button' on each bump to aid with gripping.
Agreed, it would make the design better.
I really appreciate your open source approach. Great video and a lot of maker wisdom. Thank you.
I think we all have the same idea when we watched the hand tools rescue video XD you did a flawless video with a lot of effort and people still putting dislikes I can't believe it
Ok, hear me out- print this out with low infill and single layer wall thickness, then do a "lost-pla" casting with aluminum, and voila, metal fractal vise!
Interesting. Suggest you do a video on this?
agmcmll here, was surprised to see my design mentioned in this video! The bench dog I designed also requires no supports, and will not self disassemble. To accomplish this I used a grub screw and corresponding groove like the original. I'll be adding some tweaks and uploading the .step files for my design as well when I get a bit of free time, hopefully this weekend.
Nice design, I think I'll print it too.
@@TeachingTech Thanks! It should print easily. Assembly is not too bad, but the big tweak I want to make is to add counterbores so a single bolt length will do instead of 3.
I’ve been in engineering a long time and this is new to me, wish I’d had one thirty years ago!👍👍
Nice job. A good piece of history too.
That was quick off the mark!
Well done! thank you so much for making the project open source and sharing it with the community!! You are wonderful steward in upholding the values that makes this community great!!!
The design makes total sense. Love them.
I also love the wooden-handled screwdrivers and have a few; one Irwin for a Government tool, one from W. Germany and one from Germany (from before there were two).
0:22 "RUclips recommends a random video, and you like it"
Damn he's good
It's fascinating when the internet discovers something.
This is what happens when you tell an engineer to design a tool to do a simple job and give them a blank sheet of paper.
DUDE! That was awesome of you to open source it! I'm dying to try this. Just need to get all the non-3D-printed parts first.
I love that you actually go through your design process. I don't come across many videos that do that. Also, fellow aussie!
What a seriously cool tool! I need this in my garage! Preferably a metal one, for all my weird projects.
I'm soon to have a workbench in my garage, and I'd be super excited to modify the fractal vise to mount onto dog holes. I build a lot of oddly shaped props and replicas, and I think it would be super useful.
This is step one.
Step two would be to use the pieces in a mold , and cast them in aluminum or bronze.
Awsome, this is now on my bucket list !!.
Thanks ,I'm starting out and your channel will be an invaluable source of wisdom and guidance through out looking forward to reaching this echelons and thanking you for the guidance
I finally got around to making this. A fun project.
I can’t wait to get this into CAD
You are one heck of a content creator! Thank you for willing to share your knowledge with the world. Wish you and your family the best.
Awesome build. As a beginner in 3d printing ive learnt so much from your channel
Nice work! You are someone people should look up to.
That's a very neat item! Useful to hold complex objects when painting them. If you can make a swivel mechanism to move the vice (and the object) on 3 axis it would make the task even easier. Very cool.
I love using broccoli as an object found in nature when broccoli is a man-made vegetable like corn.
😂 “Man made vegetable” 🤣
Beautiful design
Great job!
GREAT Source opening!
This was such a cool ad-vise
This shows your incredible skill!
Love it❤.... I was just looking for such a mechanism for my project that could grab any kind of shape. Thank you
There are times I see something and say "i wish I had a 3d printer. Then I'd make that" this isnt one of those times cause theres no way in hell I could do this. Super cool!
That thing is WAY cool!
Hi Micheal, so glad to see you're a fan too. I also saw that restoration video and became obsessed. Tried to create my own print, failed, went to Thingiverse but disappointed with the early models. Yours looks amazing and I'll definitely be giving it a go. Many thanks!
Very cool design, love the detail!
I don’t have a printer, but would love to buy one of those vices.
Awesome work - really like how you solved the problems as they came up 👏🏼
Reminds me of Fourier series being able to describe shapes with just sine waves
Fantastic video and teaching sequence. I must try this vice.
I love the creativity you use to over come some of those hurdles. I just might have to make one of these one day :)
wow, thank you, time to get printing !
Brilliant recreation! Thank you for making it open source! :)
As someone doing metalwork in secondary school, my school needs to get these things because some pieces are near impossible to fit in vices easily
Very interesting idea. I think I need one of these, in smaller size and milled from steel.
Ooooh, this is a cool project. I might just build my dad one of these for Christmas!
Awesome video! The way you delivered your presentation, especially the _pacing_ , is perfect!
Keep up the great work, good sir!
this man has the voice of Maurice Moss
Great work!!!!! I saw the video of restorating the old vise too and wanted it to have!!! And you made it 3D? Great work, stunning. And great thanks to you :-)
Hey, nice toy you bring this back in peoples "must have", so someone must start to make these. It's so old, there cannot be ongoings patents anymore.
Fantastic! Well done.
Simply Brilliant!!!
"We've all been there, youtube recommends a random video which really piques your interest, you end up watching it, and it's incredible." Meta
Brilliant concept.