Rare Adaptive Jaw Vise - Restoration

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @eddietowers5595
    @eddietowers5595 Год назад +236

    Man, I thought the fractal vise [restoration] at Hand Tool Rescue channel was cool. This is just as cool. I love the old tools with development such as these two vises, it’s like you said, “…they’re intuitive…”

    • @djlykaen
      @djlykaen Год назад +5

      That's what I though, why are these antiques and only available to 3d print?

    • @thegoodlookinorange1986
      @thegoodlookinorange1986 Год назад +5

      I’ve seen the fractal vise as well. Awesome restore. All the crescent shaped jaws are awesome. 👍

    • @geoff4383
      @geoff4383 Год назад +2

      This is a poor man's fractal vise.
      But this still looks really useful.

    • @fltfathin
      @fltfathin Год назад +4

      @@geoff4383 it's better imo, fractal one is harder to reset

    • @Wyld1one
      @Wyld1one Год назад +3

      also harder to malke

  • @cipriandavid4995
    @cipriandavid4995 Год назад +34

    What?! a restoration with no rust, no mud, no fake paint?! I love it!

    • @me3333
      @me3333 Год назад +2

      It's refreshing to see an honest restoration video. There's so few of them out there. Although I think I would call this more of a clean and oil than a restoration but that is nitpicking a bit.

  • @paulg3336
    @paulg3336 Год назад +2

    I just watched another channel (Abom79) showing a similar vice,but one that relies on friction to moderate the jaw plates. In comparison to the ball system it was very complex to set ,needing repeated adjustments and finally getting torqued to a certain level.
    This pseudo-fluidic ball system is far superior.

  • @rexhorning7228
    @rexhorning7228 Год назад +29

    I like your format
    Speeding up the video and doing voice over keeping us informed without boring us with the tedious tasks.
    Thank you

  • @richarddangles69
    @richarddangles69 Год назад +58

    I'm in love with this thing. The simplicity behind it makes me feel dumb for some reason and that doesn't happen often. U should make a a larger version of it. I'd watching a 6-10 video series just showing that project

  • @tomim7187
    @tomim7187 Год назад +35

    That is genius! Such a simple design and it works so efffortlessly(now that you got it cleaned up, of course)! Nice resto, Chris!

  • @jeffreykipperman6894
    @jeffreykipperman6894 Год назад +2

    Great video! And nice nod to Hand Tool Rescue at the end, I could tell that was one their spanner wrenches in the vice!

  • @HandToolRescue
    @HandToolRescue Год назад +14

    The jaws are knurled?! Interesting.

    • @MakeEverything
      @MakeEverything  Год назад +2

      I thought so too, what a pain it must have been to form those knurls on curved jaws like that…

  • @joseguzman9448
    @joseguzman9448 Год назад +1

    I have never seen that type of vice before,interesting,thank you

  • @mikesnifferpippets3733
    @mikesnifferpippets3733 Год назад +2

    I’ve never seen one of these, but I’m definitely going to keep my eyes open for one. Thanks for the tutorial on how they operate.

  • @jpkatz1435
    @jpkatz1435 9 месяцев назад

    Love the form factor/engineering, clear plate over ball-bearing, not the removel/repainting of the original paint. And it's YOUR project so you do it YOUR way. Much thanks for showing This VERY interesting vise!

  • @rpower1401
    @rpower1401 Год назад +1

    Great video. I rebuilt a milling machine version of this device a few years ago. Doesn't get a lot of use but is handy when needed. As for a magnetic base, I took magnetic tool holder strips, screwed them on a oversized board, covered it all with some aluminum flashing and it works great. Just clamp the board to the work station and use just as yours works but cheaper!

  • @JestersHammer
    @JestersHammer Год назад +1

    Thank you for making the acrylic lid. Great idea!

  • @emel60
    @emel60 Год назад +1

    Your video made me want to buy a thing I never knew existed!

  • @mattving61
    @mattving61 Год назад

    Whoah whoah whoah wait a minute... that bag over the magnet is amazing.

  • @4dirt2racer0
    @4dirt2racer0 Год назад

    holy shit! thats an inGENIOUS design!!!!! i wonder how or y that didnt become more popular..

  • @Jazzythebarbarian86
    @Jazzythebarbarian86 Год назад +2

    Love watching you restore stuff! You are awesome and so much fun to watch. Now that said, as a machinist and tool and Die maker by trade, "You did what with a Brown and Sharp magnetic vice?!" 🤣

    • @Jazzythebarbarian86
      @Jazzythebarbarian86 Год назад +1

      Oh, and also as a Machinist; this design would be absolutely FANTASTIC for my line of work

    • @MakeEverything
      @MakeEverything  Год назад +1

      😂😂 thank you for watching!!!

    • @Jazzythebarbarian86
      @Jazzythebarbarian86 Год назад

      @@MakeEverything if you ever need any bits and bobs machined, you know where to get ahold of me 😂😂

  • @clarklindquist8137
    @clarklindquist8137 9 месяцев назад

    I first thought this was a fractal vice, but its quite different. Love this video. Thank you so much

  • @glencarolo2597
    @glencarolo2597 Год назад

    Love that simple, elegant solution to dimensional holding.

  • @MrDestroys
    @MrDestroys Год назад +2

    Your one of my favorite youtubers

  • @Demicron
    @Demicron Год назад

    The use of the magnetic chuck for a gringing/wire wheeling is ingenious and can cut down the work time.

  • @bernardstokes6550
    @bernardstokes6550 Год назад

    What a clever and practical devise, nice restoration to boot. thanks for bringing this to our attention.

  • @frick566
    @frick566 Год назад +1

    Awesome "fractalish" vice!...great restoration!

    • @ExtantFrodo2
      @ExtantFrodo2 Год назад

      It's not at all fractalish. "Compliant", yes, but there is nothing fractal - like about it. There are vices that are, but this is not that.

    • @frick566
      @frick566 Год назад

      @@ExtantFrodo2 yes I know what a fractal vice is that's why the ish...

  • @gaugeblockjenga
    @gaugeblockjenga Год назад

    The vice is very clever and your video was a pleasure to watch!

  • @luck3949
    @luck3949 Год назад

    It's a really cool idea that you can replace liquids with ball bearings

  • @karenalefounder4083
    @karenalefounder4083 Год назад +2

    What a fantastic vice. Great job on the restoration.

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson Год назад

    Very cool! As a geek, though, it behooves me to point out that a version with multiple rows would work even better, like one of those pin boards that kids love to play with.

  • @robertbernard3828
    @robertbernard3828 Год назад

    Awesome video man! I’ve never seen one of these before. Like your narration.

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson7400 Год назад +1

    Great video ,, a handy vise too ,, the clear plate was a gem of an idea.

  • @derwissenskiosk8041
    @derwissenskiosk8041 Год назад +1

    Thats a truly great implementaion of an adaptiv vise. I could see myself building one with that ball bearing design!

  • @Bartyron
    @Bartyron Год назад

    Amazingly simple for such a useful tool. Thanks for showing it!

  • @AnthonyCurreri
    @AnthonyCurreri Год назад +1

    Ingenious design

  • @darrelsartin4355
    @darrelsartin4355 Год назад

    Fascinating vise, never seen one like it. Great restore. One thing, it's a pet peeve. Those aren't ball bearings, they're bearing balls. Ball bearings have balls, two races, and a cage and maybe seals.

  • @EvoKeremidarov
    @EvoKeremidarov Год назад +1

    I've always been fascinated with the fractal vise.. this one is just as fascinating.. the best part is that I will make a very interesting project to try and build one in the home shop.. the most complicated thing will probably be the leadscrew

    • @paulwomack5866
      @paulwomack5866 Год назад

      leadscrew is straightforward single point turning on a lathe?

    • @EvoKeremidarov
      @EvoKeremidarov Год назад

      @Paul Womack yes 100% correct... I've just never been quite successful turning acme threads on my Myford... especially a bigger pitch for a leadscre. Always get a lot of chatter and have to take a million finishing passed to clean up.

  • @doylerabjohn3435
    @doylerabjohn3435 Год назад

    After seeing the reel. I looked for one it must a rare antique very interesting vice....Never seen that style before. I to see you build a larger one. Great video.

  • @joshbrucksch
    @joshbrucksch Год назад

    That vice is so cool!

  • @Rustlerbear
    @Rustlerbear Год назад

    Very awesome mechanism. Thank you for sharing and for the clear cover reveal.

  • @whca_tech
    @whca_tech Год назад

    Two Words... VHT Epoxy Paint... It will change your life. Dries so fast, and super durable.

  • @RookieLock
    @RookieLock Год назад +2

    I was looking forward to this! Such a great vice. So glad you shared this with us, otherwise I would of never known they existed !

  • @jeremyspecce
    @jeremyspecce Год назад +2

    What a cool find and restoration. Man, that would be pretty crazy if you actually manufactured a version!

  • @ethanspaziani1070
    @ethanspaziani1070 Год назад +5

    I'd love to see you make a fractal vice and a larger version of this one that would be really cool man! You have a subscriber
    Hopefully someday I can watch you build yours and recreate my own

  • @GTL77
    @GTL77 Год назад

    Such a cool looking vice

  • @constantinosschinas4503
    @constantinosschinas4503 Год назад

    Amazing, simple design.

  • @siriustraveler7083
    @siriustraveler7083 Год назад

    Very nice restoration ❤

  • @caodesignworks2407
    @caodesignworks2407 Год назад +1

    It's interesting to see how this thing was constructed. I wonder how many iterations it took them to come with rounding off the back of the gripper plates.
    Flat obviously wouldn't push the balls aside enough, but too sharp won't let any of them build up pressure behind it.

  • @1gordon4u
    @1gordon4u Год назад

    "schmutz" i like that one, great job.

  • @532bluepeter1
    @532bluepeter1 Год назад

    Thank you very much for sharing this video. I have never seen one of these vices before though many times I could have done with one.

  • @tupera1
    @tupera1 Год назад

    1st time viewer...really nice job. I like the pace and length of the video. Keep up the good work!

  • @TheShadeTreeFixitMan
    @TheShadeTreeFixitMan Год назад

    Very unique design for sure.

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz4794 Год назад +1

    Try running a bead of epoxy around the base of the wire wheel inside and outside where the wires crimp into the base. It virtually eliminates wire strand ejection. 👍

  • @JazzLowrider
    @JazzLowrider Год назад

    That is one cool vice, and you did a great job restoring it, i would love to own one of those, great video, thanks for taking the time.

  • @4dirt2racer0
    @4dirt2racer0 Год назад

    i canNot believe thiss didnt become a standard design, thats n absolutely brilliant idea!! it looks like it works well i Will b making one lol if i can find it

  • @Slash1066
    @Slash1066 Год назад

    Very clever design indeed

  • @Bobbymull7174
    @Bobbymull7174 Год назад

    I wish I had one of those when I was still working it would have been very helpful I did a lot of work on small parts in vices including a 1-1/2" hand held vice I got at a swap meet!

  • @WildStyleWorks
    @WildStyleWorks Год назад

    these jaws are briliant! same as the idea with the magnetic table! love it, need to get one my self 🙂

  • @SB-dv8ih
    @SB-dv8ih Год назад +1

    Genius idea

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. Год назад

    Wow that's pretty cool. Congrats on your new to you tool/ toy. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years to come my friend. Cant wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep restoratioing. Keep Making. God bless.

  • @p3ntastar
    @p3ntastar Год назад

    That does look like an interesting, accessible fabrication project to replicate. The challenge of creating a larger-scale version with only salvaged or off-the-shelf components could be of use.

    • @robertlevine2152
      @robertlevine2152 Год назад

      Bearing size and material would also be critical. As you increase the size the force on the bearings would increase. My guess is its proportional to the square of the applied force. Flattening the bearings would become an issue.

  • @JGV_IX
    @JGV_IX Год назад

    Very cool! Awesome find!!

  • @arustydodge2111
    @arustydodge2111 Год назад

    Fantastic job, CHRIS!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
    You have the patience of a Saint, for R&R like this one!😇
    Would love to find one of these vises for all the crazy things I have to clamp up.👍
    Great channel⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @robertlevine2152
    @robertlevine2152 Год назад +8

    Really interesting! I have never seen a vise like that. I'm surprised that there aren't more of these being sold. The quantity of bearings and the size of the void above the bearings are critical for the jaws to move. Today you could program a computer to calculate the number of bearings needed. Based on age I'd guess trial and error was how the mechanism was designed.
    Your restoration is first class, except for the labels. There are people that can make duplicate labels for restoration projects. It would be worth the effort to get new labels.
    Bob

    • @thedave7760
      @thedave7760 Год назад

      You don't need a computer.
      Computers are really good at doing mathematics you can do mathematics with a pencil and paper.
      LOL.

    • @tsm688
      @tsm688 Год назад

      You don't need to count the bearings, you can just measure weight and/or volume to get it close enough.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад

      There are no bearings in this video. Those are steel balls that are often used in bearings.

  • @brentfowler2317
    @brentfowler2317 Год назад

    Awesome vice man! Love this restoration! Nice work!

  • @HWMDesigns
    @HWMDesigns Год назад

    Wow, what a great bit of engineering. Simple design but super-effective. I think you could adapt the principle of this design to make other hold-down tools. It might work for an adaptive box brake.

  • @____________________________.x

    The reason this mechanism works so well is that the rear of the jaws are rounded. This is exerting sideways pressure forcing the balls to move sideways rather than just backwards. It’s a detail that people should be aware of

  • @Aleph-Noll
    @Aleph-Noll Год назад

    making a huge version would be cool

  • @dallaseggleston4731
    @dallaseggleston4731 Год назад

    Did a great job, I would love to find one of those.

  • @Nickgowans
    @Nickgowans Год назад +4

    So the idea behind the balls is that they appears to work like a sort of "hydraulic" pressure, that is they behave like a non-compressible fluid. But without the issues of having to seal everything and all the engineering that would have to go into that. It's ingenious when you think about it

    • @paulg3336
      @paulg3336 Год назад +2

      It's all particle dynamics regardless of the size of the particles

    • @MV-vv7sg
      @MV-vv7sg Год назад +1

      You get a better set as well with them being much larger particles. Hydraulic fluid isn’t viscous enough. I bet no liquid would really work. Clever how it’s same same but different.

  • @blarrrggminecraft
    @blarrrggminecraft Год назад +1

    Did you check the paint for lead? From what I could find, E.W. Bliss was bought in 1969, and had it's name changed, which is before the 1978 ban of lead paint sales in the U.S..

  • @HouseDoctorRay
    @HouseDoctorRay Год назад

    Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing.
    It is incredible how the old timers were able to make things work without all the 'technology' we have today. Thanks again.

  • @ExtantFrodo2
    @ExtantFrodo2 Год назад +1

    The working principle seems much like the kind of robotic gripper that consists of coffee grounds in a rubber balloon like bladder. At normal pressure the grounds and the bladder conform to the shape of the target after which a vacuum is applied to tighten the grip. This vice employs bars that implement the gripping action. Might not the same principle be applied to a 2D array of hexagonal rods? I find myself somewhat motivated to attempt to make one.

  • @JDeWittDIY
    @JDeWittDIY Год назад +1

    Nice restoration, thanks for sharing the video! At 9:30 you use rubber cement. When I use rubber cement, I apply it to both surfaces to be joined, then let it dry for 15 to 30 minutes before joining them. It was hard to tell in the video how you did it. I'm curious to know how you use rubber cement.

    • @paulg3336
      @paulg3336 Год назад +1

      Your way is the correct one

  • @seananderson7794
    @seananderson7794 Год назад

    Awesome thanks for the info!!
    👍🖐🙂🇨🇦

  • @whca_tech
    @whca_tech Год назад

    coolest thing since the fractal vise...

  • @nilegod1
    @nilegod1 Год назад

    i think i may make one of these for my machine school project, thats bomb

  • @garagemonkeysan
    @garagemonkeysan Год назад

    Great video. Super interesting device. Gotta get me those W40 products. Mahalo for sharing! : )

  • @henrikjorgensen1614
    @henrikjorgensen1614 Год назад

    First time i see this cool wise Keep it for your self😀

  • @me3333
    @me3333 Год назад +1

    That is such a genius design I'm surprised the Chinese haven't copied it yet. I'm a little touched in the head, there's no way I could've taken that apart without counting the balls to satisfy my curiosity. 🙃 Great video! As others have said, I like the format of sped up video with voice over audio.

  • @greglaroche1753
    @greglaroche1753 Год назад

    Nice job!

  • @briangoldman8209
    @briangoldman8209 Год назад

    That is soooo cool, I want one !!!!!!

  • @ryansrandomshop
    @ryansrandomshop Год назад

    Been waiting for this video!

  • @Hellsong89
    @Hellsong89 Год назад

    This is pretty interesting design. I have floor stands that use same principle to have fully adjustable jack stands having two pipes that fit over each other and inner one has bottom plate with triangle hole cut on it that allows ballbearings to drop down but wont allow them to flow up so easily. Taking jack stand off is bit harder since you need to turn it around to get bearing to fall back into inner tube or twist it to get them slip in. Also after long use there is metal dust and due poor storage water has gotten in and balls in couple of them had rusted in place, but lots of oil and smashing with steel bar got them out, cleaned and with some cleaning i have several working again and one missing most of its ball bearings. Taking them apart tool effort, essentially hammering the inner tube out since the bottom disk is bit larger than neck support on the larger one and only got it out by brute forcing the bottom plate to rip from one of its spot welds, bending it and then rewelding it back before brute forcing it back when assembling.

  • @cdrive5757
    @cdrive5757 Год назад

    Absolute genius!

  • @therestorationshop
    @therestorationshop Год назад +1

    I have one of these that used to live on a Navy ship. Another nice feature of this vise is that the fixed jaw is on the same side as the handle. Most vises have the moving jaw and handle on the same side. Where this is particularly helpful is on a shaper or planer. With a shaper or planer you want the force of the stroke against the fixed jaw. If you positioned a regular vise such that the force was against the fixed jaw the handle would be against the machine and basically unusable.

    • @paulwomack5866
      @paulwomack5866 Год назад

      Does it carry the same E W Bliss branding?

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings Год назад

      You’ve got the “Anpogrip” version, right? I’ve found that with mine, and the size of my mill, I actually have mount it “backwards” so the handle is toward the column, otherwise it really just doesn’t line up with the cutter with any useable range. But I can work around it when I need to use it.

    • @therestorationshop
      @therestorationshop Год назад

      @@paulwomack5866 Mine has no branding. The only maker of a vise like this I had found was AMPOGRIP.

    • @therestorationshop
      @therestorationshop Год назад

      @@JeremyMakesThings I've always thought it was an AMPOGRIP but there wasn't a brand name on it so I guess it could be something else. The ALL CAPS seemed to be how they branded themselves. I found a matchbook on eBay and they had it that way there as well. Before this video I didn't know anyone else made them. Seems like the exact same vise.

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings Год назад +1

      @@therestorationshop the small amount of info I’ve found on these, E.W. Bliss bought the rights to them in 1957 from “American Machinery co Inc” aka “American positive Grip vise co” (where the name “AMPOGRIP” comes from.). The biggest difference I see between the Bliss version and my AMPOGRIP is rectangular (Bliss) vs dovetail (AMPOGRIP) ways. I have to imagine there were various versions of each. Super interesting vises all around.

  • @JeremyMakesThings
    @JeremyMakesThings Год назад

    Nice, I’ll cool to see some of the minor differences between this and the Ampogrip version. I like the set screws to lock the jaws.

    • @JeremyMakesThings
      @JeremyMakesThings Год назад

      I’ve also considered trying to build one out of a Kurt clone…probably one of those things I’ll never get around to.

  • @eyuptony
    @eyuptony Год назад

    Brilliant really enjoyed watching.👍

  • @abbv2x
    @abbv2x Год назад

    Great vid and awesome vice. Might I suggest a pop filter for your mic :) Constructive criticisim of course!

  • @MV-vv7sg
    @MV-vv7sg Год назад +1

    This is awesome. Came here in a flash from your IG short that was recommended to me . Clever how you used the magvice! In your insta short you mentioned this refurbish AND building your own larger one? Have you got plans to still do this. Would love to see you make a big one!

    • @MakeEverything
      @MakeEverything  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching!! Yes I’m working on the drawings for it as we speak! Same basis of design just scaled up to 6” wide

    • @MV-vv7sg
      @MV-vv7sg Год назад

      @@MakeEverything Great, that’s super exciting! Looking forward to see how it turns out.

  • @charlestannehill7537
    @charlestannehill7537 Год назад

    Hope you read this. You should try painting the Allen key bolt heads a secondary complimentary color to give more contrast and pop. Little trick I thought of customizing my motorcycles. Everyone is amazed by the "detail". Just be careful inserting Allen key into bolt head, transfer and tighten.

  • @JamesJohnson-kw9gh
    @JamesJohnson-kw9gh Год назад

    I only wish your would slow down so could see more of the machining that was done while I'm pretty sure could copy this it would help but very cool vise .and im gonna make 1 for my wife .it will come in handy for her rock work for sure and may even work on are rock cutting .

  • @SpookyMcGhee
    @SpookyMcGhee Год назад

    Abom79 has a very similar vise to this one, came here from looking for the one he has. Keep up the good work and cheers from Cleveland Ohio
    Also you did WHAT to that poor Brown & Sharpe mag chuck?!?!?!?!? Ahhhhh I'm just kidding weve got an old B&S mag chuck thats junk at our shop that we use for painting so its fine

  • @Minky-mv1pm
    @Minky-mv1pm Год назад

    Super nice product

  • @W0GUN
    @W0GUN Год назад

    Good Job 🙂👍

  • @nareshkesarker
    @nareshkesarker Год назад

    Wow amazing❤

  • @norwegiangadgetman
    @norwegiangadgetman Год назад

    That's a really neat vise.
    Do you happen to have some profile pictures of the 'fingers' or the bar used to reset them?
    I would love to make a small version of this to use on my Sherline mill.

  • @1620GarageAndFarm
    @1620GarageAndFarm Год назад

    Very cool old school vise/holder .. Great job on the restoration. Any reason you didn't just sand blast the castings clean? That would have been much faster than the wire wheel, and cleaner..

  • @wyoblacksmithtools3097
    @wyoblacksmithtools3097 Год назад

    Beautiful restoration! What size are the bearing balls? Thanks. Jerry

  • @montepr803
    @montepr803 Год назад

    I'm sure you can make one with thinner jaw plates for better contour precision. I really hope you make one and post the video. That would be pretty fascinating to watch.

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints Год назад

    That's brilliant how it uses the bb's. Why aren't these still made I wonder? It would be easy to replicate if you had the workshop and tools to do so. Great video 👍

    • @randombloke82
      @randombloke82 Год назад +1

      Probably the same reasons the fractal jaw vice never took off: as-new the device was too expensive for most hobbyists and, for a commercial shop, custom cut soft jaws are both more repeatable and can be set up to relieve stress points rather than applying equal pressure everywhere.

  • @RestorationAustralia
    @RestorationAustralia Год назад

    Very cool.😊😊😊

  • @jeanbotha182
    @jeanbotha182 Год назад

    Very nice vise,, I think the oil you put in with the bearing balls are making them stick a little bit, maybe a thinner oil wil be better?