I put a hydraulic motor with chain drive for my carriage. I got tired of not being able to feather the carriage speed with the belt drives. And the somewhat jerkyness to the carriage movement.......my mill isn't as nice as yours. Many repairs to make it perform better. Some improvements are better crafted than others. But the belsaws will cut thousands of feet of good lumber if your willing to iron the issues out! Just sharing my experience with the belsaw I've got one just like yours
We have ironed out most of the major issues with the saw. Alot of the jerkiness with the carriage is from the guide casters being a little tight on the track. We Machine our own and make them to precision fit with tight tolerance. The track is 2 pieces of1x1x1/4. Unfortunately, the steel mills don't have the same tolerances as we do. We cut an average of 1000-1500bdft a week on the mill.
You need to learn what a Peavey/Cant hook can do. Rolling the log 270* (sawn/flat side of log up and over). is easier and SAFER ; The Peavey makes a good pry bar to move the log tight against the head blocks.
I thought the fellow running the saw was the boss of the sawmill. It looks like Sawyer doesn’t know as much as the helper grabbing these boards off the table.
At some point we must as parents and Sawyers begin to pass the Torch. Let them learn, lead them, ask questions and see if they know the answers. I think at this point of the mill we were still testing and tuning the mill. That helper, at 17 is a well accomplished machinist who runs the machine shop side of our business, goes to not only high school but to college as well, is a volunteer firefighter, plays football, track and volunteers to help mentor younger kids and runs the mill in the evenings when i am unable to. No doubt he is way smarter than I will ever be. What one needs to remember is every piece of this mill was rebuilt, new machined parts, new bearings, new shafts,new or reconditioned everything. But considering where we started to where we are now. Milling over 3000bdft a week consistently, being able to pinpoint problems in an instant and correct them. Yep, we've both come a long way. I'm proud of what we've accomplished but most of all I'm proud of my son's. Thanks for stopping by.
@@mcguireandsonssawmill6420 Your reply was much appreciated and far more than I ever expected. From what you just said you should be quite proud of your sons and what you and them have accomplished. I have never accomplished anything to compete with that except raising two find beautiful children. Let me correct most of that last statement I was around but my wife did all the raising all I did was work and bring home the paycheck. I hope you stay safe and it’s obvious God has blessed you. Take care 🇨🇦
Hi, what would you guys charge for new pinion gears and the ratchet setup up with measuring device. We have an old bel saw but all those parts are broke. And new dogs?
I would hesitate giving the headsaw more than 1/32" lead. To much lead in and the blade will dive into the cant and saw into the carriage. Seen it done. Usually if the saw crowds out of the cut with 1/32" lead it's something else...usually the condition of the saw teeth are to blame. However for whatever reason on a Belsaw a 3/8" splitter is used on a 1/4" saw kerf. On thicker boards and wider cuts this gets to be a problem as the 3/8" splitter is being jammed into a 1/4" cut. This stress can cause carriage deflection on a Belsaw. Try milling 1/8" off the outside of the spltter blade and then try it.
Took the splitter off tonight and have it set up in the milling machine to remove 1/8 inch. Called BH Payne for price of a brand new blade... they just serviced this one in January.
@@mcguireandsonssawmill6420 Payne is a reputable saw shop and I'm thinking that if something was amiss with your saw plate they would have told you so. There are probably other issues that need to be ironed out before headsaw replacement needs to be considered.
We've been rebuilding this mill for 2 plus years. Almost every part has been rebuilt, made new in our machine shop or cleaned and re-imagined. The scale has turned into a bugger and the pinion gear on the carriage are worn a bit more than I like. Just ordered new steel to completely build and machine a new carriage a lot like yours.
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill We’ve considered making and selling parts. And thank you for compliment on our son, not too bad for only being 16. He’s been working in our machine shop, apprenticeing and going to college for machining for over 2 years now.
Going to rework the scale completely this week to make it actually work and be accurate using belsaws design with some modifications. Keep making videos, we love them!
Hey other than hooking the log the wrong way and threatening the toes a few times, and having the young kid backing closer to the blade moving at 540 RPM plus... nothing wrong with a bit of lumber making. Use some safety sense please.
That seems like such a long time ago... things are definitely different. That young kid holds several college certificates. Welding, machining, forestry, robotics. He machined about 90% of the parts. Leaves for boot camp in June. Thanks for watching
Yes, the mill runs better now than ever. Took alot of work, alot of trial and error, but most of all patience and persistence. Lots of new parts had to be made. Thanks for watching! We truly appreciate it.
These are nice little farm mills, I had one wish I didn’t sell it. Nice because power is on other side and you don’t have to walk around an engine and husk to off load .
Couldn't agree more Kevin Smith. My only complaint if I had one was 14 foot was max length. They did make a m14 for a year or two. They would cut 16 foot. Always wanted one of those.
I put a hydraulic motor with chain drive for my carriage. I got tired of not being able to feather the carriage speed with the belt drives. And the somewhat jerkyness to the carriage movement.......my mill isn't as nice as yours. Many repairs to make it perform better. Some improvements are better crafted than others. But the belsaws will cut thousands of feet of good lumber if your willing to iron the issues out! Just sharing my experience with the belsaw I've got one just like yours
We have ironed out most of the major issues with the saw. Alot of the jerkiness with the carriage is from the guide casters being a little tight on the track. We Machine our own and make them to precision fit with tight tolerance. The track is 2 pieces of1x1x1/4. Unfortunately, the steel mills don't have the same tolerances as we do. We cut an average of 1000-1500bdft a week on the mill.
You need to learn what a Peavey/Cant hook can do. Rolling the log 270* (sawn/flat side of log up and over). is easier and SAFER ; The Peavey makes a good pry bar to move the log tight against the head blocks.
I thought the fellow running the saw was the boss of the sawmill. It looks like Sawyer doesn’t know as much as the helper grabbing these boards off the table.
At some point we must as parents and Sawyers begin to pass the Torch. Let them learn, lead them, ask questions and see if they know the answers. I think at this point of the mill we were still testing and tuning the mill. That helper, at 17 is a well accomplished machinist who runs the machine shop side of our business, goes to not only high school but to college as well, is a volunteer firefighter, plays football, track and volunteers to help mentor younger kids and runs the mill in the evenings when i am unable to. No doubt he is way smarter than I will ever be. What one needs to remember is every piece of this mill was rebuilt, new machined parts, new bearings, new shafts,new or reconditioned everything. But considering where we started to where we are now. Milling over 3000bdft a week consistently, being able to pinpoint problems in an instant and correct them. Yep, we've both come a long way. I'm proud of what we've accomplished but most of all I'm proud of my son's. Thanks for stopping by.
@@mcguireandsonssawmill6420 Your reply was much appreciated and far more than I ever expected. From what you just said you should be quite proud of your sons and what you and them have accomplished. I have never accomplished anything to compete with that except raising two find beautiful children. Let me correct most of that last statement I was around but my wife did all the raising all I did was work and bring home the paycheck. I hope you stay safe and it’s obvious God has blessed you. Take care 🇨🇦
Hi, what would you guys charge for new pinion gears and the ratchet setup up with measuring device. We have an old bel saw but all those parts are broke. And new dogs?
Roll the log towards the head blocks and then you don't even have to back it up
H0peless set up, camera in the wrong place, no comments
What do you value a never assembled M14 at? I have an opportunity to purchase one at $3500.
Jump on it!
I would hesitate giving the headsaw more than 1/32" lead. To much lead in and the blade will dive into the cant and saw into the carriage. Seen it done. Usually if the saw crowds out of the cut with 1/32" lead it's something else...usually the condition of the saw teeth are to blame. However for whatever reason on a Belsaw a 3/8" splitter is used on a 1/4" saw kerf. On thicker boards and wider cuts this gets to be a problem as the 3/8" splitter is being jammed into a 1/4" cut. This stress can cause carriage deflection on a Belsaw. Try milling 1/8" off the outside of the spltter blade and then try it.
Took the splitter off tonight and have it set up in the milling machine to remove 1/8 inch. Called BH Payne for price of a brand new blade... they just serviced this one in January.
@@mcguireandsonssawmill6420 Payne is a reputable saw shop and I'm thinking that if something was amiss with your saw plate they would have told you so. There are probably other issues that need to be ironed out before headsaw replacement needs to be considered.
We could make some money by organizing a “Belsaw Therapist On Demand”. Good video!
We've been rebuilding this mill for 2 plus years. Almost every part has been rebuilt, made new in our machine shop or cleaned and re-imagined. The scale has turned into a bugger and the pinion gear on the carriage are worn a bit more than I like. Just ordered new steel to completely build and machine a new carriage a lot like yours.
@@mcguireandsonssawmill6420 your son is very talented and could build and sale parts for this mill!
@@TripleTRanchAndSawmill We’ve considered making and selling parts. And thank you for compliment on our son, not too bad for only being 16. He’s been working in our machine shop, apprenticeing and going to college for machining for over 2 years now.
If you figure out the scale make a video on it because they suck, mine does not work good at all. the mill sounds good.
Definitely will do that 😊
And thank you
Going to rework the scale completely this week to make it actually work and be accurate using belsaws design with some modifications. Keep making videos, we love them!
Hey other than hooking the log the wrong way and threatening the toes a few times, and having the young kid backing closer to the blade moving at 540 RPM plus... nothing wrong with a bit of lumber making. Use some safety sense please.
That seems like such a long time ago... things are definitely different. That young kid holds several college certificates. Welding, machining, forestry, robotics. He machined about 90% of the parts. Leaves for boot camp in June. Thanks for watching
How many hp you guys running
On softwood we run 40hp. On hardwood we run 80hp
Many you don't have enought power
it is december now, hope you guys got it figured out a little better
Yes, the mill runs better now than ever. Took alot of work, alot of trial and error, but most of all patience and persistence. Lots of new parts had to be made. Thanks for watching! We truly appreciate it.
These are nice little farm mills, I had one wish I didn’t sell it. Nice because power is on other side and you don’t have to walk around an engine and husk to off load .
Thank you! We love rebuilding these old mills
Couldn't agree more Kevin Smith. My only complaint if I had one was 14 foot was max length. They did make a m14 for a year or two. They would cut 16 foot. Always wanted one of those.