Just found your channel. I know absolutely nothing about saw milling but i sure have stacked a lot of firewood as a kid. I subscribed because I'm from East Tennessee also! Gotta support my neighbor however far away you are! Tyanks for taking the time to film, edit and post your videos! So calming and peaceful!
I could watch that all day fellow Tennessean here an ive been around old mills like this all my life been awhile since ive seen the pto of tractor run one. Pretty cool enjoyed video
I just found your channel, or it found me. That super M sounds great running that mill. I’m from Western Pennsylvania and I also just subscribed. Looking forward to watching your videos, both old and new.
Right! We saw mostly trees from excavating jobs, so we are saving trees that otherwise would’ve been burned. That’s also satisfying. Thanks for watching.
My grandfather bought a Farmall Super C new in 1952. He believed at that time farming had to be done with horses. He had a sawmill that looked very similar to yours. When the Buick engine he was using didn't work out he bought the Super C. It was backed up to the end of the mill and ran the mill from the belt pully. I have the tractor now and mostly use it on tractor rides however it has a side mount mower that is handy for mowing pasture.
There’s dug out places where the rear wheels dip down to clear the steering wheel. They’ve filled back up some, so I took the steering wheel off and it clears fine.
Maybe you could modify your loading ramp ,so you won't have to step over it when sawing. Make it telescope into itself or hing to swing away when not being used. Grew up running those Farmalls. Nice smooth sound...
Yessir. I addressed that in a previous video. I’m going to fix that soon, along with a few other details that need attention. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching.
is the saw blade 1 to 1 speed with the pto, ( direct drive ) ? that big spinning saw blade makes me nervous as you are climbing over that loading beam, would it be possible to manufacture an expanded metal or some type of barrier between you and the blade?
Yes. It’s direct drive and the blade is hammered and tensioned for that speed. Running an old sawmill has many dangers that we have to be aware of. There’s no way of addressing every danger without hindering certain aspects of efficient operation. Views on danger can be subjective. This is second nature for me but I would not jump from a good airplane. There is work to be done on the mill, that will come as we have time. Thanks for your suggestion!
I don't want tell you what to do this just a suggestion but turn your log towards your carriage instead so it won't co,e off carriage might have to back adjuster for log give room to turn 😊😊😊
Reminds me a lot of me running my bandmill....all by hand, no hydraulics,etc. Became too dangerous for me because of my age. Had to sell it...miss it a lot! 😢 All good, though.
Not that I’m aware of. Timber king ended up with them but production ceased. There’s no parts either. They have to be made or scavenged from donor mills.
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 There is a company in ALB. making bell saw parts. You can no longer buy the mill, but frick still makes there mills and all the parts for any frick mill. A mill almost the exact copy of the bell saw is made in Canada.
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 God no, dont get killed, that mandrel was designed for 60 hp max. A 2 7/16 frick saw mill mandrel is only 100 hp, that saw requires 58hp at maximum cut and speed. If using tractor over 60 hp, use belts or clutch that dont apply over 60hp or 600 ft pounds of torque on the saw, I have bought a couple wrecked mills from higher hp tractors hooked to them. The original foley bell saw literature explained this and said never hook pto to saw mandrel. After they sold out the dumb ass who bought the company started the pto hooked to mandrel crap, with a shear bolt joint that connected to the mandrel the pto hook up is what got them sued out of businesses. You must match hp to mandrel size. Last mill i bought guy was killed by it.
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 maximum Blade size for your mandrel and mill is 46 inch. 52 is way to big. But i got a 50 inch i put on mine some times when the 40 is not large enough and i got several large logs to saw . With just a couple large logs i saw half way through turn log around and saw the slab off.
One thing you might try take your can hook spend the log against your clamp risers be a lot easier that's the way I used to do it don't have to worry about it hitting your lever and engaging your carriage
Ohh. And Belsaw recommends turning the log away from the knees because these mills aren’t designed to turn against the knees (or clamp risers as you call them) These mills won’t take continuous shock loading.
Too bad the carriage doesn't return further back so the control lever can't be contacted when turning a log. That could have been bad. Appreciate the video.
Yep. That don’t happen often but with the longer logs, it increases that possibility. I’m gonna pass on the winch but will be moving the handle out around 18 inches, so the 15’ logs have room to turn. There’s still plenty of details to get straightened out on the mill. Thanks for the suggestion.
It’s a Belsaw brand mill. They were advertised for many years as a simple, inexpensive sawmill for the farm. They do have blades for lower horsepower applications. They have fewer number of bits and are smaller in diameter. I’ve seen 9n Fords sawing lumber with those blades. Thanks for watching.
Just found your channel. I know absolutely nothing about saw milling but i sure have stacked a lot of firewood as a kid.
I subscribed because I'm from East Tennessee also! Gotta support my neighbor however far away you are!
Tyanks for taking the time to film, edit and post your videos! So calming and peaceful!
Are you one of the Chestnut Hill Derrick folks?
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 yes. I married into the Derrick family.
Rickey was my husband!
Love the sound of the M.
Many years of my youth was spent on Farmalls.
Thanks for watching.
I could watch that all day fellow Tennessean here an ive been around old mills like this all my life been awhile since ive seen the pto of tractor run one. Pretty cool enjoyed video
Thanks! Happy New Year, fellow Volunteer!
I just found your channel, or it found me. That super M sounds great running that mill. I’m from Western Pennsylvania and I also just subscribed. Looking forward to watching your videos, both old and new.
Thanks for hanging out!
Great set up here and good video would like to see more sawing and more of your M.
Thanks. There should be more on the way.
Something so peaceful about watching tress become boards…
Right!
We saw mostly trees from excavating jobs, so we are saving trees that otherwise would’ve been burned.
That’s also satisfying.
Thanks for watching.
😂😂😂😂😂🎉😂🎉🎉
My grandfather bought a Farmall Super C new in 1952. He believed at that time farming had to be done with horses. He had a sawmill that looked very similar to yours. When the Buick engine he was using didn't work out he bought the Super C. It was backed up to the end of the mill and ran the mill from the belt pully. I have the tractor now and mostly use it on tractor rides however it has a side mount mower that is handy for mowing pasture.
Good stuff!
Those men that farmed with horses were hard to adapt to tractors but they finally did.
My Grandfather had both for many years.
Kool
My dad bought a Super M in 1970. We still own it.
The setup you have using the tractor PTO is awesome
Thanks. Inexpensive way to slice boards for sure.
Some mills and shingle mills were run off a flat belt tractor pto...
Reminds me of my old belsaw, nice video
Thanks for watching!
hi there good sawing , we have the same helpers and debarkers , best to all john
That we do, John!!
Thanks
Thanks for posting
All I can say is you are lucky to still be alive!
The roadways are twice as dangerous.
How did you get the Farmal M under the that low roof?
There’s dug out places where the rear wheels dip down to clear the steering wheel. They’ve filled back up some, so I took the steering wheel off and it clears fine.
You can see the notch in the header plate for steering wheel clearance. 👍
Maybe you could modify your loading ramp ,so you won't have to step over it when sawing. Make it telescope into itself or hing to swing away when not being used. Grew up running those Farmalls. Nice smooth sound...
Yessir. I addressed that in a previous video. I’m going to fix that soon, along with a few other details that need attention.
Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching.
Nice sawmill setup
Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
is the saw blade 1 to 1 speed with the pto, ( direct drive ) ? that big spinning saw blade makes me nervous as you are climbing over that loading beam, would it be possible to manufacture an expanded metal or some type of barrier between you and the blade?
Yes. It’s direct drive and the blade is hammered and tensioned for that speed.
Running an old sawmill has many dangers that we have to be aware of.
There’s no way of addressing every danger without hindering certain aspects of efficient operation. Views on danger can be subjective. This is second nature for me but I would not jump from a good airplane.
There is work to be done on the mill, that will come as we have time.
Thanks for your suggestion!
Goodd job Ken
That super m is ear tonic to me.
Thanks. Will try to get better sound out of it, onto video.
I don't want tell you what to do this just a suggestion but turn your log towards your carriage instead so it won't co,e off carriage might have to back adjuster for
log give room to turn 😊😊😊
mill won’t take the abuse of turning the log backwards.
I just forgot about the handle. plan on moving it outward soon.
Reminds me a lot of me running my bandmill....all by hand, no hydraulics,etc. Became too dangerous for me because of my age. Had to sell it...miss it a lot! 😢 All good, though.
My day is coming too.
Looks like the same setup Foley Bell saws when I had and had a Minneapolis Moline miss those days too old to do it now
www.youtube.com/@squatch253/search?query=moline
This channel does a lot with Minneapolis-Moline
Good video!
What brand of sawmill is this?
Belsaw M14
Can u still buy a new foley bellsaw like yours?
Not that I’m aware of. Timber king ended up with them but production ceased. There’s no parts either. They have to be made or scavenged from donor mills.
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 There is a company in ALB. making bell saw parts. You can no longer buy the mill, but frick still makes there mills and all the parts for any frick mill. A mill almost the exact copy of the bell saw is made in Canada.
That M looks like it has decent power. I’m in the market for something with more horses for my Belsaw.
Yeah, ideally I need a good 100 horsepower.
I just barely get by with 45-50.
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 God no, dont get killed, that mandrel was designed for 60 hp max. A 2 7/16 frick saw mill mandrel is only 100 hp, that saw requires 58hp at maximum cut and speed. If using tractor over 60 hp, use belts or clutch that dont apply over 60hp or 600 ft pounds of torque on the saw, I have bought a couple wrecked mills from higher hp tractors hooked to them. The original foley bell saw literature explained this and said never hook pto to saw mandrel. After they sold out the dumb ass who bought the company started the pto hooked to mandrel crap, with a shear bolt joint that connected to the mandrel the pto hook up is what got them sued out of businesses. You must match hp to mandrel size. Last mill i bought guy was killed by it.
What size sawblade? The tractor seems to handle it fine
52”
Yeah, it’ll handle pine great but hardwood will pull its guts out.
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 maximum Blade size for your mandrel and mill is 46 inch. 52 is way to big. But i got a 50 inch i put on mine some times when the 40 is not large enough and i got several large logs to saw . With just a couple large logs i saw half way through turn log around and saw the slab off.
One thing you might try take your can hook spend the log against your clamp risers be a lot easier that's the way I used to do it don't have to worry about it hitting your lever and engaging your carriage
I’m moving the control handle over about 18”, so it’s out of the way.
Thanks for your suggestion.
Ohh. And Belsaw recommends turning the log away from the knees because these mills aren’t designed to turn against the knees (or clamp risers as you call them)
These mills won’t take continuous shock loading.
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 I didn't know that part of it didn't have a manual did it for 20 years had no problems sorry for bad advice
Too bad the carriage doesn't return further back so the control lever can't be contacted when turning a log. That could have been bad. Appreciate the video.
when I get a chance, I’m moving the handle out about 18”.
You make it yourself?
No. it’s a Foley Belsaw M14.
A 12 volt ATV 2000 LB winch mounted on the rafters would make rolling logs easy and more importantly much safer. Hitting the feed lever is really bad
Yep. That don’t happen often but with the longer logs, it increases that possibility.
I’m gonna pass on the winch but will be moving the handle out around 18 inches, so the 15’ logs have room to turn.
There’s still plenty of details to get straightened out on the mill.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Home built saw or factory built ? I don't think my little w4 farmall would run it!!
It’s a Belsaw brand mill. They were advertised for many years as a simple, inexpensive sawmill for the farm.
They do have blades for lower horsepower applications. They have fewer number of bits and are smaller in diameter. I’ve seen 9n Fords sawing lumber with those blades. Thanks for watching.
Hope you never trip
I hope I never fall off a ladder.
Sorry wrong channel 😊
Hate I missed it. I need an extra long t-shirts. 🤷🏼♂️