what is the toxicity of the plastic and can absorb it thru skin or will rain water make the toxins leech into the area , that is my only concern with reusing plastics
@@louisdebacco3217 during the recycling process plastic offgass and dust is primary concern. These can be handled with filters, and the filters can be biodigested with organisms known to eat plastic
One way to protect the roof from UV would be to create a living roof where the plastic roof is covered in soil and living plants (grass?). This would also aid in insulation and keep temperatures down in the summer.
@@bigass197 The roof itself. I can imagine it becoming very hot in the summer (potentially melting or softening). This heat cycling causes thermal oxidative degradation which changes the structural properties on the material.
as a roofer, i'd suggest using sheets that are half the thickness, then "shingling" them over each other, rather than doing the flush-mount thing. it would be the same amount of plastic up there, the same thickness, but all of the seams would have backing, no sealant would be required (sealant fails after time), all of your fasteners would be concealed/not exposed to weather, and you can gap the shingles/tiles/sheets/whatever-you-want-to-call-them to account for thermal expansion - i suspect that roof is going to buckle and warp after a few days or weeks under summertime sunlight if you want any help with this concept for this or future roof projects, feel free to contact me - i'd be happy to offer advice. good job guys! keep it up. love off-grid and sustainable living.
Yeah, I believe they should’ve just overlapped in the way shingles are over left. I made a comment as well about that. I could appreciate what they are doing but as far as them machining the edges to make it flat up on top doesn’t make any sense because it will leak in time. that would be better off used as a floor inside of the shed instead of as a roof
In addition this process would eliminate time consuming router work, which is producing micro plastics, dust and chips. That's also an environmental problem.
@@2degucitas yeah I get it they’re trying to go green or whatever but in reality like you said they’re producing micro plastics that hopefully they recycle
There's a huge amount of research available on recycling plastic as a building material. There are TONS of ANSI structural specs available. There's a great roof tile video out there and it gets VERY high marks from several environmental watchdogs. At a 70/30 mix of plastics and sand, the substance is structural when cast as blocks for single story structures. There are about 50 structural studies confirming safety benchmarks over the past 20 years. The data and knowledge has been out there for years, but it wasn't fashionable enough to obliterate the stigma of a "home built from trash". Sensibilities rarely evolve as fast as the technology. Love watching your project come together.
David this is really interesting, I'm currently innovating a recycled plastic building material. It sounds like you have some experience? If so I'd love to chat. Connor
Hi David, you able to provide some credible links? Been searching endlessly for 4 months on Internet and nothing of what you said this far. Appreciate it.
Could you use plastic pieces in concrete instead of aggregate? This would make the concrete much lighter and possibly cheaper. I have no idea if it would even work though.
You're delaying the degradation of plastic with the degradation of the paint cover. Once the house is abandoned and the paint degrades, the plastic will degrade as well, contaminating the land with microplastics. The only solution to prevent plastic degradation is always a correct disposal, something that cannot be ensured. Every house with plastic today is a potential plastic pollutant in the future for the land it's on.
This is something I love seeing. By 2008 the US Navy would take all plastic, to include candy wrappers and just melt it all together into disk the size of a stepping stone and then off load and unfortunately it went into the trash., After retiring, seeing the mountains of plastic in countries that lacked sufficient housing I had thought of these disk and asked why it couldn't be expanded to create actual building materials from the mountains of plastic in the ocean, on land.... I even took the time to look for and email groups I believed had the ability to take what they were doing to the next level or had the ability to reach the ears of those that could do something to solve 2 problems at once, plastic pollution and housing. It brings me great joy each time I see a project like this because it is the best type of recycling, using fewer resources and less energy than other forms to create something that is affordable and useful. Thank you for posting your video, it is one of those things I am willing to watch on youtube
Safety Notice: Do NOT wear gloves around drill presses, or similar rotating tools(mills, lathes)! Like any fabric or long hair these can get tangled in the tool and will reel in your fingers, hand and arm until something gives. So rather risk scratch marks, than ripped of limbs.
LOL reminded me of a video I saw once, guy talking safety around a lathe, I think it was Tool Time with Tim Allen or something, he was standing there then BOOM suddenly shirtless LOL so funny.
@@michaeljoynt2836 Yes... that was on an episode of Home Improvement from the 1990s and it was Tim Allen who lost his shirt as a gag. Tool Time was the name of the show within the show which also had Richard Karn playing the role of Al Borland. I don't remember which year or episode it was but you're talking probably close to 30 years ago now when it first aired. I should get the entire series on DVD from the library and binge watch it for some laughs - I probably haven't viewed some of the episodes since the 1990s! Best wishes! - Max Giganteum
This is SOOOO exciting !!!! Two questions. a) What is to stop a high wind from lifting the sheets off the roof ? b) Why was no sealant applied between sheets to stop rain from seeping through. c) I would suggest that a water catchment at the bottom edge with a collection tank for various uses. I have long wondered why recycled plastics is not used for creating building members for earthquake zone rapid construction.
b) I guess you missed the part where they explained that each sheet has a tongue and groove border so they fit together like a puzzle, there will be no leaking between them, besides they are screwd into the wooden pieces (rafters/battens).
@@GladysRWhite I was curious about the sealant, as well as u.v resistance. It looks like a hot climate, it would be sad to see the plastic droop/wilt in the heat opening any joints up allowing water to collect in the voids and rot the wood beneath. Very cool idea tho and definitely entertaining to watch. He seems a clever, dude and probably thought of these issues and this is just a test roof before using on a larger structure.
I'd like to see black, green and brown colored plastics be used... if you're going to make an attempt to blend in then my philosophy is to go all the way and get it done. - Max Giganteum
The structure for the kitchen looks great and the use of recycled plastic is fantastic. We have an abundance of plastic so show casing ways to use recycled plastic is brilliant. The drone showed just how good the colours look and blend with the environment - great work.
I do feel a bit sad knowing i wont see a new video untill April but dang im looking forward to it. I wish to all members of Project Kamp a good Xmas and a happy new year already!!
The plastic roof turned out unexpectedly beautiful! And the flooring/covering over the kitchen container really pulled things together. Great work! Love it!
I'd be curious to see frequent soil tests near a plastic roof. this way we could get an idea on how much micro-plastic runoff is being absorbed in the immediate area.
This video is SO in my wheelhouse. Plastics rarely shed once reworked as the carbon content is increased. Also to be considered is that micro plastics are a result of abrasion. Carbon seems to act as an encapsulating substance. There's a TON of research on this topic. You'll need to translate it from Russian, Chech, and Akan though. A great start would be looking at the projects in Ghana, and specifically at the roof tile and paver work.
I would be interested to know how to seal the plastic sheets to prevent shedding of micro-plastics into the environment. Any ideas on how that can be done cheaply @Tate
@@brakespearwoortman2528 You're creating a NEW item from heating and forming the recycled plastic. Carbon structures realign to encapsulate as if freshly cast. In this case, the carbon is greatly increased creating a product that has a higher carbon content than the original material with very different structural traits. AGAIN Micro Plastics are a product of ABRASION and UV degradation. The sand and plastic bricks do not exhibit those traits. I've already forwarded the science on this 3 times now. Try doing some of your own self education that doesn't involve a celebrity.
@@philliperskine4986 I'm the expert in my field while you have nothing but half understood conjecture regurgitated by a collection of vapid celebrities that don't work with or use renewables. Kisses
Wow, you should be so proud of your accomplishments. You saw a problem, designed and built an ecosystem to help fix it, then used that very system to prove things could be done smarter. Bravo!
Because of the chemical structure of polypropylene, it has a high degradation rate when exposed to UV light like the Sun. ... According to Gupta, North Carolina State University, polypropylene fibers can only withstand approximately 6 days exposure to high-intensity UV light before losing 70% of their strength. Those panels will crumble in a few years.
@@WolfsFriend42 A good solution would be to overcoat it with a reflective polymer roof coating. The same stuff used to resurface/seal roofs. It is predominantly white or less so in silver. The white can be tinted with color just like any paint. The plastic sheets are technically construction sheathing with a water proof/resistant advantage over similar wood products.
Yeah my fear exactly... Inside use yes, outside use it will just break down into micro plastics and fill their local environment with it... A bit of a missed opportunity in doing their research first 😔
Thank you folks a lot for what you are doing and for sharing your work and materials with you tube DIY folks. It means a lot to me, especially to see the innovation which will help people and the planet. My grandson just graduated with a double degree and one degree was in materials engineering. I appreciate what you are doing and the OPEN SOURCE info and business you told us about.
Awesome work everyone, cool to see more people regularly in base kamp. Have a nice and productive vacations. Hoping for some cool new content next season !
I have to disappoint you guys but I'll be here in Mexico they already been doing sheets of recycle materials for a long while already about 10 to 15 years if I'm not wrong
This is something I've been thinking about for years now as a pretty valuable output for Precious Plastics in areas where the building norm is cinderblock with iron / asbestos sheet rooves. Or, as I like to call them; ovens. Would it be possible to make them corrugated with a certain amount of polystyrene, so they're both rain channeling and to some degree insulative? Also, some half decent white outdoor paint should help resolve issues of UV, sealing, and heat buildup.
I bet you could make corrugated molds and just heat the sheets and press them to that shape! For insulation you'd have to laminate them, I think, for weather/UV proofing on the outside.
@@bjrn-oskarrnning2740 or conceivably make a composite material with better insulative properties, which could be done in combination with the other ideas of lamination, coating, corrugating, etc
I had been thinking a corrugated former press with enough polystyrene mix to insulate without losing too much strength, but a laminate is probably a better idea.. Could instead make two thin rigid sheets and one somewhat sintered polystyrene, and then reheat them in a corrugated reformer, just to give them bend and fuse enough to each other to stay stuck... They'd be nailed down in use, so they shouldn't need too much adherence to each other..
@@twestgard2 I'm concerned that making a composite material porous enough to insulate would compromise waterproofing, be susceptible to mold and would be weak to the elements. I'm absolutely no specialist here, just speculating, but I think you'd have to cover it with something more solid. No reason you can't do that in the melt mold, tho!
Have a pleasant winter rest. You've surely earned it for all your efforts on the new place. Glad someone is making an effort to utilize what so many would just cast out to have buried in dumps. Please take care.
very impressed by how much work you put into this video! very well done especially with the music and the nice collection of shots! Already looking forward to april!
Nice job on the wooden covered terrace, I am sure it is going to be really useful for you guys. Thanks for all the great content you brought us this first season. It is really inspiring to see people experiment alternative ways of living and i love seeing what you already have done to the place. Looking forward to see the evolutions of the project next year. Have a great youtube break and hope winter won't be to harsh down there.
I love that you try things out and see for yourself how things hold up over time! Way to go, so inspiring to see how plastics can be recycled into real products!
Yay! I very much enjoyed season one, became part of my bed time routine for the last two weeks :) Great to watch you all work with smiles on your faces, making stuff happen and putting it together with humour and great footage too! Thank you for sharing!
I wish we could have seen how you secured the plastic panels to the battens and if sealed the joints. But well done on season 1 and another great addition to project Kamp! Sad to not be seeing you guys for a while, however am looking forward to the next season 🙂 Have a merry Christmas and a wonderful new year! Stay safe 👌
I have used PET to make Green Houses, but they usually last about a year before start breaking. The UV light make it brittle over time. The sheets i use were 0,1mm thick. I belive the tiles that you made will last a long time before breaking. Other option could be painting the roof white, cause titanium dioxe (the white pigment) is one of the best at blocking UV
The lack of a proper overlap is likely to cause some leakage issues. A fun project nonetheless but I guess that the French design team don't have much experience in rain proof tiling nor in UV protection. The energy is good so keep innovating! 👍
From an engineering perspective, I think it’s an excellent first experiment to use the absolute minimum materials. If anything “fails” by whatever definition, then you learn that additional work and/or materials are required. If nothing “fails” by any useful definition then you know that the simplest, cheapest, fastest application is sufficient for the purpose. We have almost no information about the attachment method. Depending on how that was done, this may be perfectly sufficient.
@@vriesvakkie1 We can certainly design different experiments, but the upshot of doing that is that we should do those experiments. Nitpicking someone else’s experiment is not only unhelpful, it’s actively destructive. Please, design an experiment and implement it!
Looking forward to season 2, going to miss seeing your videos until then. They are great inspiration for me to keep going on projects we are working on as well. Albeit much smaller projects like adding to my garden.
Amazing progress Dave. I like your passion and results of work. Most people only talk about their dreams but you and other guys from Precious Plastic make dreams real. Wish you all the best in winter and I am looking for updates in season 2. :)
When you are up there , you should tidy up and secure the wires on solar panel. The movement just by wind , will damage wire and connections. Don't be chilling and wasting away in winter, it's called living not a holiday
Coming from experience with it not working, at least on the area you would walk out from onto the porch, place some Cross bracing with your off cuts. It will help distribute the weight along more boards and make them last longer.
Checkout container twist locks, they would have made a really simple mechanism for anchoring to the top of the container. Smaller plastic panels could be used like shingles.
Ah end of season 1.... hence the long waiving goodbye. Liked this episode. The end result of the roof was above expectations. It blends in with environment rather well. Wonder if it is rainproof, but I trust you will tell me. Have a good winter. And maybe post some pictures once in a while so we won't forget you ;-) Take care!
It was not a smart design to router the edges where they fit together, because it encourages water to go into the crack instead of simply flowing down the next panel.
Those look great! Let us know how much heat these absorb being mostly dark colors. If it ends up being too much I assume you can sand and just paint the roof a reflective color! Could help with reflecting more sun on the solar panels as well!
HDPE is uv resistant, so I hope it will last a long time. Precious plastic should think about making roof tiles like the ones you took off the ruins. Would be easier to install watertight and could be thinner and less weight overall. Or a less attractive/easiest to install 〰️ tin type panel.
not only that, if the plastic tiles have the same expansion and contraction properties, while being made ot the same dimensions, they could be used to replace broken or missing tiles too!
I expect that the plastic will break down from the uv sun light. When ever I leave something plastic outside that wasn't made to be left out side it become brittle and cracks and breaks. Maybe if yoy recycled only plastic plant pots it will last longer.
A quick search led me to find out it needed info. If there's nothing to absorb or reflect the UV, besides the black coloring, the only long term option these panels have is the thickness. Basically, the first few millimeters will break down and slowly wear off as micro-plastics. The the degradation will extend further until the tiles are worthless for the application and the nearby ground and watershed will be loaded with plastic contamination.
@@lightdark00 the micro plastic is a good point. Maybe they can come up with a natural way of protecting it from UV like a thin layer of wood shingles.
@@michellezevenaar I think it would be okay to use something super-chemical, non-renewable, etc etc. If you take something recycled, and use something "not environmentally sound" to make your recycled thing last 50 years, then I believe you're doing a great job. I mill my own lumber, and do some timber framing. If i use a chemical to keep the bugs out, my lumber lasts a really long time. If not, I have timbers that are falling apart from powder post beetles. Sometimes "do no harm" just isn't feasible.
Some great "farm gymnastics" of all types going on here! Great work on the ingenious fixes ! We've been following you from day 1 with Precious Plastic and love the evolution of yoru vision and community! Much love from Canada! 💚
"sturdy"..... when one notches out a wood beam it reduces its sturdiness, it is close to building with wood members the width of the member minus the size of the notch so why not build and spend on smaller width wood members? .... if a "structural" member that is supposed to be used whole is cut and an inspector is required the inspector would not pass the inspection and the wood would be "wasted" and to pass inspection the cut members would have to be replaced and the money + wo/man hours uneconnomically spent .... I understand the project, very leaky roof, no inspection, looks great, not nominal members - the members have been weakened innocently in shame, excellent reprocessing of waste plastic, great lookin panels, thanks for sharing it free to me and, for allowing opinions that make us all greater, learn appreciate your health and life better: I have known of people dying from hitting their heads on the ground through a dizzy fall worse from a ladder like the one you placed on hazardous footings and while carrying a killer wood beam on top of your head, yeah I understand single, childless, young with the whole life to live ahead smh..... ladders once you place weight on it the legs dangeroulsy slip open a bit, be safer, you might want to add more cool videos with no broken vertebrae ; )
I regularly install Trex decking in the United States. It’s an engineered recycled plastic and sawdust product. The sales pitch is that it’s low maintenance compared to wood (and candidly it’s conspicuous consumption for rich people but nobody wants that to be openly said). I like having work but I hate installing Trex. It feels irresponsible. I don’t sell the jobs, I’m just the labor. In the winter when there’s ice on Trex, it’s terrifyingly slick. Walking on it is like being a greased rod trying to balance on glass on a windy day. And the suckers who buy this material are all older people who don’t want the work of maintenance, but also they’re the people who are too old to recover from a broken hip when they slip and fall. The company is based in California where icy weather is rare. I’m in the Midwest and ice is a regular annual season. IMO, outdoor plastic floors are a bad idea. Plastic roofs are still worth a try.
@@twestgard2 Thanks for the info Thomas. My hubby and I are entering that "OLD" stage where slippery floors, decks, etc. are a concern - as well as the type of rugs I use :D
@@ruthscott5166 you’re welcome! Obviously everything has its upside and downside. It’s just my opinion as a (relatively) young healthy fit person with good balance who slips on these late-season installations that the slip-n-fall aspect is not well enough known. I built two decks for my elderly parents, both are wood decks.
I really like those plastic tiles, they are so cool. Now all that is left is to set up eves troughs to catch the rainwater into a barrel or something so you will have a secondary source of water for emergencies
Well this was backwards and weird. Using plastic for the weather and sun exposure, having joints that will leak(unless siliconed), and having wood where you walk. Why didn't you go for a all or nothing approach, with plastic flooring too? If you're going to pollute the place with micro-plastics might as well examine flooring viability too.
Looking forward to more of your videos. Your ideas are very cutting edge and I am interested in seeing how some of them function in the long term. espcially the various uses for recycled plastics.
Great work and progress as always at the Project Kamp, but the sweetest thing nobody ever mentions: every time he says "cutted" when he actually should use the past participle "cut". I don't know why but it makes my heart melt. Hope they're having a great winter down there. They deserve it.
Loving the down to earth, almost how-to video's ! Your truly honest and simple explanations make it motivating for anyone (like myself) to go out and give it a try! I will be building a deck out with the help of your video , thank you. Keep up the great work.
Plastic in positive usage, in environment is much better than plastic waste destroying the environment!! I've Re-used plastic's for so many Re-Uses over the decades !!!:D
Hi guys, I just want to say. Great idea! I hope this roof last many years. It is a fantastic way to give back to mother earth and to minimize our global issues with plastic waist. Thanks so much for this video, I hope it goes viral and that a lot more people use this type of thinking. I have a suggestion... You made roof tiles, now try out making tiles for the kitchen or the shower. I'm sure you will find a way to use the recycled plastic in many other ways. Keep it up. Greetings from South Africa
Nice work to the guys in France. If you are Interested in making more roofing sheets try doing a sand inclusion or maybe even ground up glass bottles. This should give them more regidity and aid in maintaining the shape and structure of the sheet in the hotter months
Lovely project, excellent execution. Let's see if the roof will keep the tain away and the sun wont cook it to ashes :) Looks lovely. Good job. I'm a bit sad that this is the last video, but looking forward for the next season. Have a nice rest.
Really love the prospects to solving the major problem of the world, which is waste management. It actually makes the applications(road construction, building, etc) cheaper. The only issue I see is the adoption of it in Africa. I mean making use of the waste effectively. I know there are so many organizations trying to solve that but it needs to be encouraged more.
Totally agree that the finished roof tile is quite beautiful. Super curious to see how the plastic holds up to the UV from the sunlight exposure over time. I have subscribed to make sure I can find out! Thanks for sharing & cheers from Austin, TX, USA!
Here you can see how we made recycled plastic toilet seats: ruclips.net/video/-6RAbLo2kI4/видео.html
what is the toxicity of the plastic and can absorb it thru skin or will rain water make the toxins leech into the area , that is my only concern with reusing plastics
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@@louisdebacco3217 during the recycling process plastic offgass and dust is primary concern. These can be handled with filters, and the filters can be biodigested with organisms known to eat plastic
One way to protect the roof from UV would be to create a living roof where the plastic roof is covered in soil and living plants (grass?). This would also aid in insulation and keep temperatures down in the summer.
there is a better mix of plants than grass. Succulents... as they are more robust, don't need that much water and they are fire-resistant
solar roof !
Insulate what?!?
@@bigass197 The roof itself. I can imagine it becoming very hot in the summer (potentially melting or softening). This heat cycling causes thermal oxidative degradation which changes the structural properties on the material.
Pretty ideal substrate, too.
as a roofer, i'd suggest using sheets that are half the thickness, then "shingling" them over each other, rather than doing the flush-mount thing. it would be the same amount of plastic up there, the same thickness, but all of the seams would have backing, no sealant would be required (sealant fails after time), all of your fasteners would be concealed/not exposed to weather, and you can gap the shingles/tiles/sheets/whatever-you-want-to-call-them to account for thermal expansion - i suspect that roof is going to buckle and warp after a few days or weeks under summertime sunlight
if you want any help with this concept for this or future roof projects, feel free to contact me - i'd be happy to offer advice.
good job guys! keep it up. love off-grid and sustainable living.
Yea that’s what I was thinking too, just stager and lap over instead of mill joints
Turns out you were right
Yeah, I believe they should’ve just overlapped in the way shingles are over left. I made a comment as well about that. I could appreciate what they are doing but as far as them machining the edges to make it flat up on top doesn’t make any sense because it will leak in time. that would be better off used as a floor inside of the shed instead of as a roof
In addition this process would eliminate time consuming router work, which is producing micro plastics, dust and chips. That's also an environmental problem.
@@2degucitas yeah I get it they’re trying to go green or whatever but in reality like you said they’re producing micro plastics that hopefully they recycle
There's a huge amount of research available on recycling plastic as a building material. There are TONS of ANSI structural specs available. There's a great roof tile video out there and it gets VERY high marks from several environmental watchdogs. At a 70/30 mix of plastics and sand, the substance is structural when cast as blocks for single story structures. There are about 50 structural studies confirming safety benchmarks over the past 20 years. The data and knowledge has been out there for years, but it wasn't fashionable enough to obliterate the stigma of a "home built from trash". Sensibilities rarely evolve as fast as the technology. Love watching your project come together.
Do you have a link to any meta-analysis literature reviews in this area? interested in this rabbit hole.
thank you for the information
David this is really interesting, I'm currently innovating a recycled plastic building material. It sounds like you have some experience? If so I'd love to chat.
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Hi David, you able to provide some credible links? Been searching endlessly for 4 months on Internet and nothing of what you said this far. Appreciate it.
Could you use plastic pieces in concrete instead of aggregate? This would make the concrete much lighter and possibly cheaper. I have no idea if it would even work though.
One layer of paint blocks nearly 100% of uv degradation in plastics. Hardly matters what color or type.
even better if " it ' cooled below ambient :)
white is the best
You're delaying the degradation of plastic with the degradation of the paint cover. Once the house is abandoned and the paint degrades, the plastic will degrade as well, contaminating the land with microplastics. The only solution to prevent plastic degradation is always a correct disposal, something that cannot be ensured. Every house with plastic today is a potential plastic pollutant in the future for the land it's on.
The problem with plastic is not all plastic is easily paintable...
Doesn't effect thermal degradation.
I love your dynamism and can-do attitudes.
What a great #1 season.
Looking forward to season #2...
It's insane how much I love these guys solely due to the fact I learn so much in such a short time just by watching their videos.
This is something I love seeing. By 2008 the US Navy would take all plastic, to include candy wrappers and just melt it all together into disk the size of a stepping stone and then off load and unfortunately it went into the trash.,
After retiring, seeing the mountains of plastic in countries that lacked sufficient housing I had thought of these disk and asked why it couldn't be expanded to create actual building materials from the mountains of plastic in the ocean, on land....
I even took the time to look for and email groups I believed had the ability to take what they were doing to the next level or had the ability to reach the ears of those that could do something to solve 2 problems at once, plastic pollution and housing.
It brings me great joy each time I see a project like this because it is the best type of recycling, using fewer resources and less energy than other forms to create something that is affordable and useful.
Thank you for posting your video, it is one of those things I am willing to watch on youtube
Safety Notice:
Do NOT wear gloves around drill presses, or similar rotating tools(mills, lathes)!
Like any fabric or long hair these can get tangled in the tool and will reel in your fingers, hand and arm until something gives. So rather risk scratch marks, than ripped of limbs.
Best advice in this entire thread.
LOL reminded me of a video I saw once, guy talking safety around a lathe, I think it was Tool Time with Tim Allen or something, he was standing there then BOOM suddenly shirtless LOL so funny.
@@michaeljoynt2836 Yes... that was on an episode of Home Improvement from the 1990s and it was Tim Allen who lost his shirt as a gag. Tool Time was the name of the show within the show which also had Richard Karn playing the role of Al Borland. I don't remember which year or episode it was but you're talking probably close to 30 years ago now when it first aired. I should get the entire series on DVD from the library and binge watch it for some laughs - I probably haven't viewed some of the episodes since the 1990s! Best wishes!
- Max Giganteum
Did I see correctly? The tiles are not staggered like shingles? Won’t there be long seams where leakage could occur?
This is SOOOO exciting !!!!
Two questions.
a) What is to stop a high wind from lifting the sheets off the roof ?
b) Why was no sealant applied between sheets to stop rain from seeping through.
c) I would suggest that a water catchment at the bottom edge with a collection tank for various uses.
I have long wondered why recycled plastics is not used for creating building members for earthquake zone rapid construction.
plastic is brital its gonna be chiiping away after elements done their job
a) the plastic sheets were screwed down to the wood rafters and battens. You can see and hear them screwing them down.
b) I guess you missed the part where they explained that each sheet has a tongue and groove border so they fit together like a puzzle, there will be no leaking between them, besides they are screwd into the wooden pieces (rafters/battens).
@@GladysRWhite I was curious about the sealant, as well as u.v resistance. It looks like a hot climate, it would be sad to see the plastic droop/wilt in the heat opening any joints up allowing water to collect in the voids and rot the wood beneath. Very cool idea tho and definitely entertaining to watch. He seems a clever, dude and probably thought of these issues and this is just a test roof before using on a larger structure.
@@strongnew3744 Sure, he said it was an experiment! they don't know how long it will last, or anything.
From above, the colour really blends in with the surrounding pine trees.
Agree. That was really cool.
I'd like to see black, green and brown colored plastics be used... if you're going to make an attempt to blend in then my philosophy is to go all the way and get it done.
- Max Giganteum
The structure for the kitchen looks great and the use of recycled plastic is fantastic. We have an abundance of plastic so show casing ways to use recycled plastic is brilliant. The drone showed just how good the colours look and blend with the environment - great work.
I do feel a bit sad knowing i wont see a new video untill April but dang im looking forward to it. I wish to all members of Project Kamp a good Xmas and a happy new year already!!
Found myself waving back to you guys! Have a great winter, looking forward to April. Kite koe from Aotearoa.
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Wow .... maybe create a life where you arent a follower of youtube video. LOL
The plastic roof turned out unexpectedly beautiful! And the flooring/covering over the kitchen container really pulled things together. Great work! Love it!
I'd be curious to see frequent soil tests near a plastic roof. this way we could get an idea on how much micro-plastic runoff is being absorbed in the immediate area.
This video is SO in my wheelhouse. Plastics rarely shed once reworked as the carbon content is increased. Also to be considered is that micro plastics are a result of abrasion. Carbon seems to act as an encapsulating substance. There's a TON of research on this topic. You'll need to translate it from Russian, Chech, and Akan though. A great start would be looking at the projects in Ghana, and specifically at the roof tile and paver work.
Yeah
I would be interested to know how to seal the plastic sheets to prevent shedding of micro-plastics into the environment. Any ideas on how that can be done cheaply @Tate
@@brakespearwoortman2528 You're creating a NEW item from heating and forming the recycled plastic. Carbon structures realign to encapsulate as if freshly cast. In this case, the carbon is greatly increased creating a product that has a higher carbon content than the original material with very different structural traits. AGAIN Micro Plastics are a product of ABRASION and UV degradation. The sand and plastic bricks do not exhibit those traits. I've already forwarded the science on this 3 times now. Try doing some of your own self education that doesn't involve a celebrity.
@@philliperskine4986 I'm the expert in my field while you have nothing but half understood conjecture regurgitated by a collection of vapid celebrities that don't work with or use renewables. Kisses
As always, so impressed by Dave and the Team of Project Kamp. Y'all are awesome! Can't wait to see what comes next.
Wow, you should be so proud of your accomplishments. You saw a problem, designed and built an ecosystem to help fix it, then used that very system to prove things could be done smarter. Bravo!
Nice idea, curious about the UV exposure and micro plastics. Would also be a great place for additional solar.
Because of the chemical structure of polypropylene, it has a high degradation rate when exposed to UV light like the Sun. ... According to Gupta, North Carolina State University, polypropylene fibers can only withstand approximately 6 days exposure to high-intensity UV light before losing 70% of their strength.
Those panels will crumble in a few years.
@@WolfsFriend42 A good solution would be to overcoat it with a reflective polymer roof coating. The same stuff used to resurface/seal roofs. It is predominantly white or less so in silver. The white can be tinted with color just like any paint. The plastic sheets are technically construction sheathing with a water proof/resistant advantage over similar wood products.
Yeah my fear exactly... Inside use yes, outside use it will just break down into micro plastics and fill their local environment with it... A bit of a missed opportunity in doing their research first 😔
Thank you folks a lot for what you are doing and for sharing your work and materials with you tube DIY folks. It means a lot to me, especially to see the innovation which will help people and the planet. My grandson just graduated with a double degree and one degree was in materials engineering. I appreciate what you are doing and the OPEN SOURCE info and business you told us about.
Why not use solar panels to build a roof? More power and no possible micro plastics in your soil when the plastic degrades by uv and erodes by rain.
i love the focus on the ladder's feet at a crucial moment. "No, not sketchy at all!"
Awesome work everyone, cool to see more people regularly in base kamp. Have a nice and productive vacations. Hoping for some cool new content next season !
So lovely to see you building, and to see you have more outdoor usable space for bad weather.
I have to disappoint you guys but I'll be here in Mexico they already been doing sheets of recycle materials for a long while already about 10 to 15 years if I'm not wrong
Well designed framework and the plastic looks great. Good job.
Oh I’ll miss you guys. But I’ll wait! I think you all are just amazing. Blessings to your future!
This is something I've been thinking about for years now as a pretty valuable output for Precious Plastics in areas where the building norm is cinderblock with iron / asbestos sheet rooves.
Or, as I like to call them; ovens.
Would it be possible to make them corrugated with a certain amount of polystyrene, so they're both rain channeling and to some degree insulative?
Also, some half decent white outdoor paint should help resolve issues of UV, sealing, and heat buildup.
I bet you could make corrugated molds and just heat the sheets and press them to that shape! For insulation you'd have to laminate them, I think, for weather/UV proofing on the outside.
@@bjrn-oskarrnning2740 or conceivably make a composite material with better insulative properties, which could be done in combination with the other ideas of lamination, coating, corrugating, etc
I had been thinking a corrugated former press with enough polystyrene mix to insulate without losing too much strength, but a laminate is probably a better idea..
Could instead make two thin rigid sheets and one somewhat sintered polystyrene, and then reheat them in a corrugated reformer, just to give them bend and fuse enough to each other to stay stuck...
They'd be nailed down in use, so they shouldn't need too much adherence to each other..
@@twestgard2 I'm concerned that making a composite material porous enough to insulate would compromise waterproofing, be susceptible to mold and would be weak to the elements. I'm absolutely no specialist here, just speculating, but I think you'd have to cover it with something more solid. No reason you can't do that in the melt mold, tho!
Have a pleasant winter rest. You've surely earned it for all your efforts on the new place. Glad someone is making an effort to utilize what so many would just cast out to have buried in dumps. Please take care.
very impressed by how much work you put into this video! very well done especially with the music and the nice collection of shots! Already looking forward to april!
Ur guys is world Hero, u saved our world from wasted plastic...love
Nice job on the wooden covered terrace, I am sure it is going to be really useful for you guys.
Thanks for all the great content you brought us this first season. It is really inspiring to see people experiment alternative ways of living and i love seeing what you already have done to the place.
Looking forward to see the evolutions of the project next year. Have a great youtube break and hope winter won't be to harsh down there.
I love that you try things out and see for yourself how things hold up over time! Way to go, so inspiring to see how plastics can be recycled into real products!
Excellent work guys. Quite inspiring, there is hope for the future with people like you around.
Yay! I very much enjoyed season one, became part of my bed time routine for the last two weeks :) Great to watch you all work with smiles on your faces, making stuff happen and putting it together with humour and great footage too! Thank you for sharing!
Love what you are doing in Portugal and love watching these videos… 🌀💚🌀
I’ve had to resort to watching all your videos again while I wait for April!
I wish we could have seen how you secured the plastic panels to the battens and if sealed the joints.
But well done on season 1 and another great addition to project Kamp! Sad to not be seeing you guys for a while, however am looking forward to the next season 🙂
Have a merry Christmas and a wonderful new year! Stay safe 👌
Very Clever! This Recycled Plastic Roof is very good, because it's cheap and easy too made
I have used PET to make Green Houses, but they usually last about a year before start breaking. The UV light make it brittle over time. The sheets i use were 0,1mm thick. I belive the tiles that you made will last a long time before breaking.
Other option could be painting the roof white, cause titanium dioxe (the white pigment) is one of the best at blocking UV
😅😅😅😅 la
Of all the things that make me miss you guys... that metal cold saw hits the hardest :')
The lack of a proper overlap is likely to cause some leakage issues. A fun project nonetheless but I guess that the French design team don't have much experience in rain proof tiling nor in UV protection. The energy is good so keep innovating! 👍
Pull up the tiles, put a bead of caulk, put tiles back down. They'll have to coat it with something to keep the plastic from breaking down anyway.
From an engineering perspective, I think it’s an excellent first experiment to use the absolute minimum materials. If anything “fails” by whatever definition, then you learn that additional work and/or materials are required. If nothing “fails” by any useful definition then you know that the simplest, cheapest, fastest application is sufficient for the purpose. We have almost no information about the attachment method. Depending on how that was done, this may be perfectly sufficient.
@@twestgard2 that is a slow method of testing, when different tiles are treated differently then testing and learning curve goes up.
@@vriesvakkie1 We can certainly design different experiments, but the upshot of doing that is that we should do those experiments. Nitpicking someone else’s experiment is not only unhelpful, it’s actively destructive. Please, design an experiment and implement it!
Melting the seams together with a fat tipped soldering iron should solve the leaking, if it occurs
Cool . I wish that there were places like this all over the world that recycle plastic.
Looking forward to season 2, going to miss seeing your videos until then. They are great inspiration for me to keep going on projects we are working on as well. Albeit much smaller projects like adding to my garden.
Fabulous!! I want a sheet press. I’ll miss you all. But that just makes April something to look forward to !!
Amazing progress Dave. I like your passion and results of work. Most people only talk about their dreams but you and other guys from Precious Plastic make dreams real. Wish you all the best in winter and I am looking for updates in season 2. :)
When you are up there , you should tidy up and secure the wires on solar panel. The movement just by wind , will damage wire and connections. Don't be chilling and wasting away in winter, it's called living not a holiday
Great deck!
Cutted isn't a word
Its cut
Look forward to seeing you in April
Keep up the Good work
Peace from New Zealand
Came here for this 😄
Really enjoy your videos, greetings from Indonesia❤
Has this project become bigger than you anticipated
I’m so happy I found this channel before they taking a break! 🙏🏻
Coming from experience with it not working, at least on the area you would walk out from onto the porch, place some Cross bracing with your off cuts. It will help distribute the weight along more boards and make them last longer.
You guys are just so hardworking and great and sweet. I’ll miss your videos. 😁 Enjoy the pause!!! ♥️ See you in April
Checkout container twist locks, they would have made a really simple mechanism for anchoring to the top of the container.
Smaller plastic panels could be used like shingles.
Ah end of season 1.... hence the long waiving goodbye. Liked this episode. The end result of the roof was above expectations. It blends in with environment rather well. Wonder if it is rainproof, but I trust you will tell me.
Have a good winter. And maybe post some pictures once in a while so we won't forget you ;-) Take care!
Those sheets look NICE! Do you use any sealant in between the sheets, or do you just accept some leakage when it rains?
Also curious about this
You could just use a clear or black silicone and that would last years
It was not a smart design to router the edges where they fit together, because it encourages water to go into the crack instead of simply flowing down the next panel.
@@dustinabc Yes and roof tiles are overlapped for a reason.
How fabulous! Definitely want to do something like this on our land here in Portugal. Gonna miss the videos, who else waved back at the end? :)
Those look great! Let us know how much heat these absorb being mostly dark colors. If it ends up being too much I assume you can sand and just paint the roof a reflective color! Could help with reflecting more sun on the solar panels as well!
This is beautiful you all executed this with ease! Well done!
Cool roof!
Loved this project from start to finish. Awesome work and energy, guys!
look out for some real cheap solar panels. some used can be just a couple €... very easy to make roofs out of them and electricity is a bonus
Yes that's what I thought!!!!!
Looks nice..
The firat rain will tell what needs to be done to mitigate leaks..
Looking forward to season 2..
Stay safe and enthusiastic..
HDPE is uv resistant, so I hope it will last a long time. Precious plastic should think about making roof tiles like the ones you took off the ruins. Would be easier to install watertight and could be thinner and less weight overall. Or a less attractive/easiest to install 〰️ tin type panel.
not only that, if the plastic tiles have the same expansion and contraction properties, while being made ot the same dimensions, they could be used to replace broken or missing tiles too!
Great job guys have a good winter.
I expect that the plastic will break down from the uv sun light. When ever I leave something plastic outside that wasn't made to be left out side it become brittle and cracks and breaks. Maybe if yoy recycled only plastic plant pots it will last longer.
A quick search led me to find out it needed info. If there's nothing to absorb or reflect the UV, besides the black coloring, the only long term option these panels have is the thickness. Basically, the first few millimeters will break down and slowly wear off as micro-plastics. The the degradation will extend further until the tiles are worthless for the application and the nearby ground and watershed will be loaded with plastic contamination.
One would think that it would be a simple fix to coat it with something. Less impact is better than not trying at all.
@@OldNew45 exactly! Many flat roofs use stones to protect aga the sunlight.
@@lightdark00 the micro plastic is a good point. Maybe they can come up with a natural way of protecting it from UV like a thin layer of wood shingles.
@@michellezevenaar I think it would be okay to use something super-chemical, non-renewable, etc etc. If you take something recycled, and use something "not environmentally sound" to make your recycled thing last 50 years, then I believe you're doing a great job. I mill my own lumber, and do some timber framing. If i use a chemical to keep the bugs out, my lumber lasts a really long time. If not, I have timbers that are falling apart from powder post beetles. Sometimes "do no harm" just isn't feasible.
Some great "farm gymnastics" of all types going on here! Great work on the ingenious fixes ! We've been following you from day 1 with Precious Plastic and love the evolution of yoru vision and community! Much love from Canada! 💚
"sturdy"..... when one notches out a wood beam it reduces its sturdiness, it is close to building with wood members the width of the member minus the size of the notch so why not build and spend on smaller width wood members? .... if a "structural" member that is supposed to be used whole is cut and an inspector is required the inspector would not pass the inspection and the wood would be "wasted" and to pass inspection the cut members would have to be replaced and the money + wo/man hours uneconnomically spent .... I understand the project, very leaky roof, no inspection, looks great, not nominal members - the members have been weakened innocently in shame, excellent reprocessing of waste plastic, great lookin panels, thanks for sharing it free to me and, for allowing opinions that make us all greater, learn appreciate your health and life better: I have known of people dying from hitting their heads on the ground through a dizzy fall worse from a ladder like the one you placed on hazardous footings and while carrying a killer wood beam on top of your head, yeah I understand single, childless, young with the whole life to live ahead smh..... ladders once you place weight on it the legs dangeroulsy slip open a bit, be safer, you might want to add more cool videos with no broken vertebrae ; )
Thanks for season one! Already looking forward to season 2 :) Enjoy winding down, cocooning and have a lovely winter!
Thank you guys. Have a great winter break/ planning
I wonder how it would work as a floor?
we are already testing it.
ruclips.net/video/bjU7QKcEUFY/видео.htmlo far so good :)
I regularly install Trex decking in the United States. It’s an engineered recycled plastic and sawdust product. The sales pitch is that it’s low maintenance compared to wood (and candidly it’s conspicuous consumption for rich people but nobody wants that to be openly said).
I like having work but I hate installing Trex. It feels irresponsible. I don’t sell the jobs, I’m just the labor. In the winter when there’s ice on Trex, it’s terrifyingly slick. Walking on it is like being a greased rod trying to balance on glass on a windy day. And the suckers who buy this material are all older people who don’t want the work of maintenance, but also they’re the people who are too old to recover from a broken hip when they slip and fall. The company is based in California where icy weather is rare. I’m in the Midwest and ice is a regular annual season.
IMO, outdoor plastic floors are a bad idea. Plastic roofs are still worth a try.
@@twestgard2 Thanks for the info Thomas. My hubby and I are entering that "OLD" stage where slippery floors, decks, etc. are a concern - as well as the type of rugs I use :D
@@ruthscott5166 you’re welcome! Obviously everything has its upside and downside. It’s just my opinion as a (relatively) young healthy fit person with good balance who slips on these late-season installations that the slip-n-fall aspect is not well enough known. I built two decks for my elderly parents, both are wood decks.
Loved the awkward goodbye..... will miss you.... see you in the second season ;) have a good vacations!!!! ;)
Solar roof would have been better than plastic
I really like those plastic tiles, they are so cool. Now all that is left is to set up eves troughs to catch the rainwater into a barrel or something so you will have a secondary source of water for emergencies
Well this was backwards and weird. Using plastic for the weather and sun exposure, having joints that will leak(unless siliconed), and having wood where you walk. Why didn't you go for a all or nothing approach, with plastic flooring too? If you're going to pollute the place with micro-plastics might as well examine flooring viability too.
Looking forward to more of your videos. Your ideas are very cutting edge and I am interested in seeing how some of them function in the long term. espcially the various uses for recycled plastics.
Cheap plastic directly facing the sun??!!
This won’t work for long.
Do you even listen or are you convinced the world needs your feedback even if it has only one second of thought behind it?
That’s literally the experiment they are doing. Please be helpful: do the same experiment somewhere else and let us know your results!
The end result is really impressive and cool.
Great work and progress as always at the Project Kamp, but the sweetest thing nobody ever mentions: every time he says "cutted" when he actually should use the past participle "cut". I don't know why but it makes my heart melt. Hope they're having a great winter down there. They deserve it.
Super cool. Have a good winter.
Hi maybe not the place the world has become a sadder place with what’s happening in Europe. Please bring a smile 😊 to our faces with your clip’s.
I couldn't resist waving back!
I can smell the platic already sun and plastic is a good combination plus you living on it 24/7
I love the way it blends into the landscape. Great work as always. See you in april
The most beautiful roof of Helmond euh Portugal
I'm so sad!! I'm going to have to rewatch all your old videos to get my Rita fix!! LOL I'm so in love with her!!
Loving the down to earth, almost how-to video's ! Your truly honest and simple explanations make it motivating for anyone (like myself) to go out and give it a try! I will be building a deck out with the help of your video , thank you. Keep up the great work.
Plastic in positive usage, in environment is much better than plastic waste destroying the environment!! I've Re-used plastic's for so many Re-Uses over the decades !!!:D
Bravo! It turned out so gorgeous!
Super cool the plastic use, bravo!
Hi guys, I just want to say. Great idea! I hope this roof last many years. It is a fantastic way to give back to mother earth and to minimize our global issues with plastic waist. Thanks so much for this video, I hope it goes viral and that a lot more people use this type of thinking. I have a suggestion... You made roof tiles, now try out making tiles for the kitchen or the shower. I'm sure you will find a way to use the recycled plastic in many other ways. Keep it up.
Greetings from South Africa
Nice work to the guys in France. If you are Interested in making more roofing sheets try doing a sand inclusion or maybe even ground up glass bottles. This should give them more regidity and aid in maintaining the shape and structure of the sheet in the hotter months
It looks like a little cabin! I love it! Can't wait to see everything that gets accomplished! Take care, have fun and be safe. See you in April!!!!!
You guys are my favorite humans! Much love, Dryden
So glad you are not chilling
And continuing with the channel.
You will keep your supporters that way.
Thanks, this kind of experimentation is what's needed and from them we will (and have) found ecological solutions.
Lovely project, excellent execution. Let's see if the roof will keep the tain away and the sun wont cook it to ashes :) Looks lovely. Good job. I'm a bit sad that this is the last video, but looking forward for the next season. Have a nice rest.
Really love the prospects to solving the major problem of the world, which is waste management. It actually makes the applications(road construction, building, etc) cheaper. The only issue I see is the adoption of it in Africa. I mean making use of the waste effectively. I know there are so many organizations trying to solve that but it needs to be encouraged more.
Really impressed by you guys ingenuity.
I like how they wrapped the recycled plastic in single use plastic to protect it in shipping.
Totally agree that the finished roof tile is quite beautiful.
Super curious to see how the plastic holds up to the UV from the sunlight exposure over time. I have subscribed to make sure I can find out!
Thanks for sharing & cheers from Austin, TX, USA!