Ninjask vs Shedinja | Pokémon Form Fight (Branched Evolution)
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Rock slide is a 1 hit k.o in this battle for both sides
If it hits
Or heat wave
@@ivanpan3384 no. It's only 2x of damage but with Rock slide then it's 4x.
and both of them are Physical attacker.
Ricardo Damacena Filho really anything that hits, niether can tank, but shedninja wins games by being invincible against kyogre and xerneas while ninjask is a good baton passer, but not the best.
Shedinja's gimmick is neat but it's kinda easy to get around, although I found it the best pokemon to catch Deoxys in ORAS since it knows the moves false swipe and heal block, also Deoxys can't touch it since its only offensive moves are hyper beam and psycho boost, which are normal and psychic type, respectively, and Shedinja is immune to both.
Posts like this really show how online communities work - this is news to me.
Wonder Guard should also protect from entry hazards, weather and status conditions
The same applies in FireRed/LeafGreen by using a Sableye to catch Mewtwo...
Also I'd say Sableye or Spiritomb is better to catch Deoxys
I catched Deoxys in my run with a single premier ball after wasting only 3 of them on Rayquaza, they were pretty easy to catch.
Spoiler Alert
OMG Shedninja survived on 1hp and Won!
damn. i bet he loves wonder guard all off a sudden
Let's be honest, though. If it came down to using the moves they can learn(through Level Up or TM), Shedinja would have lost first turn since Ninjask can learn Aerial Ace. Unless they wanted to be an arse and use Protect until it failed.
I need to tell that shedinja is best pokemon because of his very good hp
WOW
Lol
Imagine if ninjask got heat wave or rock slide straight away
EDIT:Then I thought of a ninjask using explosion
‘Ninjask fainted
The partner ninjask fainted
The shedinja is immune
The shedinja is immune’
XD
Or Sandstorm/Hail. Insta Win for Ninjask.
i thought ninjask knew night slash
Or if shedninja uses explosion
If they used explosion...
Ninjask: IMA TAKE YOU DOWN WITH ME!
Shedinja: well ima stop u right there
Altrocado th8s is a metronome battle
This battle was gold😂😂
Divij Khaitan Just like their shinies😏
I'm in tears, this battle was glorious, as was Liam's commentary XD
FIGHTING GOLDDDD
Ninjask wins instantly when using a flying type attack, because Shedinja is slow and has 1 hp.
@@goner1179 is that a JoJo's reference
"Bumblebee"? Do they not have cicadas in England?
As I just found out, there's only one species of cicada in the UK and it's endangered.
@@AceTrainerLiam they are all over the place where I live.
I've never seen cicadas before in Scotland
@@depesci7133 Don't know about Scotland but over here in the southeast region of the U.S. you are more likely to hear them and find their discarded shells than to find an actual cicada.
what are cicadas (btw im canadian)
Shedinija because of its ability wonder guard is great but also it’s design is absolutely amazing. It maybe have 1 HP but it makes up for it with strategy
Give it a focus sash or focus band, its unkillable
That only works once.
You're wrong
It walled many, many Kyogres in competitive Ubers back when Kyogre was king. It’s glorious.
@@King_Nex Focus Sash lets the attributed Pokemon retain 1 HP from a hit that should knock it out. Here's the thing: Shedinja has 1 HP. For Shedinja, 1 HP = MAX HP, so there's no variation in HP, consequently being the same as a damageless attack. Thus, Focus Sash is reusable.
Counterpart form fight?
Seviper vs Zangoose
Durant vs Heatmor
Electabuzz vs Magmar
Glalie vs Froslass
Tauros vs Miltank
Gyarados vs Milotic
Banette vs Dusclops etc..
Wasn't tauros vs milktank already done?
Archen Vs tortouga.
BlindGirl UK why?
Magnemight KLME
it's FORM fight
not rival pokemon fight.
Lucario vs Zoroarc?!?!
Shedinja faints
Ninjask:we have you 2 to 1
S Shedinja:I like the odds
This is a weird one, all of these are completely up to the metronome, but this one in particular relies more on the metronome than any of the other ones I've watched. Honestly, I would never use either in an actual battle because I think they're both garbage but I do think shedinja is cooler.
Ninjask's speed boost plus swords dance and baton pass is still a decent option. It's just inferior to scolipede now.
@@NickDe3 exactly and scolipede looks soooooo much cooler.
@@clericofchaos1 I personally prefer Ninjask's design, but scolipede has a better attack stat and better type coverage.
Neither are garbage. Ninjask as stated is a very solid lead for baton pass teams and was mandatory in gens 3-4 for them for it's speed boost. Just thinking of how good they are from gen 5 onward is ignorant. With baton pass strategies having bans on certain pokemon and moves it's no wonder Ninjask fell off.
Shedinja on the other hand is specifically used as a pivot pokemon and used to wall key targets on the opposing team. This niche was at its height when Kyogre was a problem and Shedinja hard countered it. To this day Shedinja can still pull of this niche in Ubers which is the primary use of it however cuz more moves added with each gen the harder it is for it to wall and pivot.
@@nybethobdilord6912 good for them...I still think they're garbage though.
shedinja is my favourite personally, i love myself a gimmick
I have always loved both of them .
I wish more Pokémon had this kind of gimmick ( evolving and creating a shell that becomes a Pokémon ) .
Who else clicked to see if shedinja had a chance
I only clicked to see shedinja win :>
Shedinja needs more love!
Shedinja is epic
I love wonder guard
Me and that was crazy! and Wonder Guard, best ability in the game
It's kinda unfair that shedinja's ability does not prevent wheater effects and condition effects
Goggles help.
Didn't think of that. Shedinja is one of those pokemon that really needs two item slots. Three if we include heavy duty boots.
Yeah.
It would make much more sense if wonder guard also protected against entry hazards and weather. I can see how status works, I suppose.
I agree. Would make him a lot more versatile.
Shedinga : I can kill anything that looks at my back crack
Trainer:(behind shedinga because he is in a battle)😱
Underrated lmfao
its 4:44am and im laughing so hard at this
Wait a minute so this thing can actually get rid of Arceus send ninja is the most dangerous Pokémon ever
*back crack*
Congratulations on managing to keep the commentary flowing lol
So it's basically everyone's first time fighting Sans
Yes
But it's like 300 times harder
I once got a shiny nincada, but forgot to have a free slot in my party. So I missed out on a shiny shedinja, *sad*
Well the shiny doesn't change much Tbh. I'd prefer shiny ninjmask
Issy Issy Id prefer having two shinies over one
My condolences
"It is believed that this pokemon will steal the spirit of anyone peering into its hollow body from its back" - but the player (and trainer) do exactly that if you catch one and send it into battle so...once you send one out into battle... are you basically screwed? XD
Well, give it a scarf or sew it up the hole
My favorite won! That battle was EPIC! GO SHEDINJA!
Shedinja requires a more skilled player. Switching in and swapping out on non effective hits.
Stealth rock
@@muhammadraziqmuhammad229 spikes
@@MintyMint_ defog
- keeping hazards off the field
- Scouting for status moves
- literally having to keep it off the field if sand or hail is up
- avoiding rocky helmets, rough skin, iron barns.
- avoiding Pokémon that can ignore wonder guard.
Goggles for weather, (and I think hazards.) Knock out all the other pokemon that could pose a threat, then troll the ones remaining as you dish out damage at your leisure. If your worried about contact affects, just use special(ranged) attacks.
I remember in middle 2018 my brother let me borrow his Omega Ruby and I caught a Nincada and I brought him ALL the way to the Champion Steven and boy was my Ninjask a BOSS
"I like ninjask better*
Sturdinja: let me introduce myself
Mold Breaker: Pathetic
@@Jarubimba ah siet
@@Jarubimba What's Mold Breaker?
@@baimhakani Is a Hability that's make your attacks ignore other Pokémons Habilitys
Jonaquim Augusto habilty lmao
I love shedninja. Both are 2 of my favorite bug types
Same here👍
Gotta love sturdy shedinja
I really like these two Pokemon and anything is possible metronome battles
I'm more of an ingame guy, so I really like shedinja cause it sometimes saved me from difficult situations like battling Steven's Metagross. Plus it just pushed you to be creative on your strategy. But in competitive scene, I think Ninjask is far superior.
Definitely the best form fight just for the laughs.
Man. This should've been saved for April Fool's Day.
This is fantastic, has to be my favorite Form Fight so far. I actually really like shedinja, I like keeping him the back to hopefully screw over my opponent at the end of the battle
How broken would a Pokemon be if a normal type Pokemon gets wonder gaurd
Here's something even more broken, an electric type with wonder garde ability holding an air balloon~
-(absolutely nothing can touch it)-
@@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions except entry hazards, weather and status
SLAKING?
How about Electross with Wonder Guard.
@@pergrineheel3018 It is still technically weak to ground
When you’re so bad that you can only be used while battling legendaries.
Wait
How does a pokemon with 1 HP make for such a long video?
A tail whip could hurt a pokemon like that.
Except it couldnt
@@DJTileTurnip Serious Lol - I'd probably never run a Shedinja Set.
There was a unique strategy back in ORAS that plagued OU. It was called the wonder trio basically it would have mega sableye, dugtrio, and shedinja along with double defog. Basically sableye would discourage status moves in fear of having them bounce back, dugtrio would trap the fire types that would destroy shedinja and shedinja would wall some physical attackers maybe getting a burn with will o wisp
Will o wisp 100
@@petelee2477 hail and sandstorm
Slight correction: You can use Trace to copy Wonder Guard.
The name form fight doesn't work, a better name would be "branched battle"
You underestimate Shedinjas power.
I feel so sorry for you having to do this Form Fight...you still managed to make it entertaining even with all of the failed moves. As for my preferred of the two, definitely Ninjask, if only for the design because I don't really use these two anyway.
5:19 Small correction, Trace CAN copy Wonder Guard (even if doing so would literally help your opponent lol)
I’m pretty sure this video is banned from being a form being a method of torture. IT’S TOO EFFECTIVE.
I love Shedinja. Wonder guard got me through some of the tougher gyms I faced when I first got it way back in Ruby. It even accompanied me to the elite four. But honestly, I wouldn't use it for competitive battles because it's so easy to use super effective moves when you see it.
Its good in competitive, especially with focus sash or safety google, just tank the hit, also, its imune to fairy, which is good, its always good atleast one Shedinja in your party for situations were the opponent has 1 or 2 pokemon left
Im dehydrated from all that salt 😂
That was a fun battle. XD
How did shedinja win like Jesus
I just realised that those aren't wings on Shedinja... But its blow out back where the Ninjask broke out from! Mind Blown
There is a way to get wonder guard on any Pokemon, just it requires alot of setting up. It follows as this.
2v2, Audino (mega or not) and shedinja.
Audino uses entrainment, shedinja protects.
Audino uses entrainment again, shedinja uses mimic to copy entrainment.
Swap in sweeper for audino, shedinja uses entrainment.
Sweeper now has wonder guard.
PLEASE DO THIS SPECIFIC FORM FIGHT MATCHUP AGAIN!
This would of been hilarious if ninjask got rock slide instantly
This battle was hysterical
Gale of Darkness taught us that if you use Sandstorm and stealth rock (spikes works similarly in this case) on turn 1, you can kill a team of shedinja
My Ninjask with night slash: foolish mortals
I LOVE Both Ninjask and Shedinja.
ZANGOOSE VS SERVIPER! I've been waiting for it.
Shedinja is one of my fav Pokémon, I just love it’s Gimic
Imagine if shedinja had sturdy instead of wonder guard.
What's Sturdy again?
You survive at one HP if the hit you took would have been a one-hit KO. It renews if you heal back up. And Shedinja only has one HP.
But Sturdinja is still affected by secondary effects, correct?
Sturdy Shedinja, broken Hackmon, gotta love it.
But if it gets sturdy it loses wonder guard
So? Because of Sturdy it can't be hit through offensive means. Every move that it takes, Sturdy will come in effect preventing him faint.
How to beat it: Tyrantitar Sandstream. // It is a Hackmon for a reason.
You can also use Mold Breaker, Teravolt, Turboblaze, Moongeist Beam, Sunsteel Strike, Hazards, Status, and trapping moves such as Whirlpool and Infestation.
On Hackamons, my best counter to sturdy Shedinja is something fast with mold breaker, and pursuit.
That is a completely sick ability I give it to shedninja for looks and being a flat out sweeper
liam: lets go!
RUclips: gives me an ad
me:'-'
Hi man love the vids keep it up
Thanks!
*I want it to be noted that this post is a very very rough calculation and as such would be limited.
To be fair, 72 percent of damage dealing types cannot damage Shedinja and a large amount of moves also aren't damaging movies as well.
And there are almost 800 moves in Pokemon as of Gen 8, with around 32% being status moves.
But let's be real, that isn't the info that really matters. you see, in a Metronome battle, THIS is the info that matters.
And of the number of moves with the type that can harm Shedinja is less than 25%... note, just type.. many of those moves are status moves that won't harm it and many of those moves also have the chance of missing... meaning, in a metronome battle, less than 20% of the moves would actually be able to damage Shedinja... and that would be without counting moves that could miss.
If you think about that. in a metronome battle, each turn, Ninjask has drastically less than 20% chance of actually killing Shedinja. And for 1-hit KO, Shedinja's chances of doing the same will nearly match.
And as Ninjask loses physical/special defense or HP, it's chances of being taken out increase, but Shedinja's chance of being taken out is always the same, no matter what.
Fun Fact In Competitve Shedinja Won A 1 V 3 Against 3 Other Pokemon First Knocking Out The First Pokemon Than The Other 2 Could Not Hurt Shedinja Forcing A Forfeit!
Since Shedinja has Wonder Guard, which can be one BIG weakness, I'm gonna be Team Ninjask for this Form Fight!
Can we please have Latios vs Latias? No Mega Stones just Team Blue vs Team Red (as much as I love Latias I'm Team Latios for the Win)!
Thanks for another awesome vid Liam 💙=^_^=💙
I did Latios v Latias literally 2 weeks ago. :/
Ace Trainer Liam I remember that one, it was a good battle! But I'm talking about just Normal Latios vs Normal Latias (no Mega Stones), that one hasn't been done yet.
Thanks for the reply, your Form Fight vids are my absolute favourites to watch!
Laters =^_^=
Lady Leomon
it's not ,,wonder guard"
it's ,,TROLL" 😂
#team_shedinja
Ziomownik 2580 fun so true (unless Fire/Flying/Rock/Ghost or Dark Types are involved) 😂😂😂
Liam please do Minun vs Plusle.
I can see amd understand why ppl prefer Ninjask but honestly I love Shedinja a unique pokemon and I love its mysterious lore/entry
I'm new to the series, but wow, what a way to start. I love both the pokemon but Shedinja is my favorite because of its gimmick ability, I remember when I could pokemon gts website to just hack illegal pokemon in and get spiritombs with wonder guard, 10/10 childhood
Ninjask nearly oneshot deoxys with a critical hit swords dance x-scissor in my playthrough of alpha sapphire. He was 15 levels lower than it.
Shedinja is my all time favorite mon. Its design and interpretation of its pairing is so well executed.
And Ninjask is mine. Let's be Cicada brothers.
I love Ninjask's look and, never knew it was so hard to train, so I love that bit of lore as well. Never really liked Shedinja, as it was really gimmicky. It's one thing to be the bug/ghost husk cast off from an evolution/metamorphosis, but it's another to actually make that pokemon have 1 HP and only five types can hit it. I so wish Shedinja just was a branched evolution, or whatever this evolution is. Maybe it had a different gimmick.
So basically shedinja is the molted skin of ninjask 😂😂
11:25 wow, that mega drain healed 100% of shedinja's hp! Damn, never seen something heal 100% of the user;s hp in one hit!
I think it really comes down to the fun factor vs practicality. I loved using Noctowl as the ghost/flying it isn't. Honestly there's still a good amount of fun to be found in ninjask too and even kecleon. It's good to break the mold with a different challenge like using the wackiest guys you can find as your team and roll with them
Yes I love shedinja it's my favorite just because of wonder guard it makes is a jack of all trades unless there is a move it's weak against
I'll be frank, I am not a fan of Shedinja, but I got to give it props for managing to beat two Ninjasks with a combined total of 2 hp.
gg
Imagine calling a cicada a bee
I love those videos 😁😁
Thank you!
Imagine a sizor having a wonder guard ability...ITS ONLY WEAK TO ONE TYPE
Pokemon XD had a challenge to knock out a full team of 6 Shedinja in one turn...
If you change shedninjas ability using skill swap you can give it sturdy and you it literally can’t be killed
Shedinja has 60 less hp, 60 less Special and 120 less speed... I find that kinda cool...
Wing Attack happened one Metronome too late and Fire Lash happened one Metronome too late too for Ninjask...
If a pokemon has one weakness and has wonder guard, it will be completely broken
You can actually give other pokemon wonder guard, if you have a gen 3 mimic shedinja and copy entrainment you can give any pokemon wonder guard!
All Hail the mighty Shedninja!!!
I love Shedinja! Bit of a gimmick sure, but since I don't play competitively I just think they're cool. Always and forever part of my Hoenn team. Level'd 100 in my Omega Ruby c:
They can be viable competitively, if you use either soak or a sturdy strat
In gens without fairy you should skill swap a shedinja with spiritomb.
I had a Ninjask when I first played through Omega Ruby, and he became such a good team member. Shedinja is a unique Pokemon, but not one I would use in battle.
Trace DOES work. I used my Shedinja against Wally's Curlia and had a hard time hitting it because it had Wonder Guard, until I remembered psychic types are weak to ghost types. Shadow Ball ftw!
brah shedinja has been in ubers has ninjask and even if he did he was that high up in ranking while shedinja did
Ninjask is my favorite (none legendary) pokemon ever he is perfection
And metronome is dumb
First one bois
Lucky poo poo
I Like Shedinja Better Because Of Its Abillity
We demand a rematch
I hope shedninja is going to make an appearance in MetroMania at some point. I would love to see how far it goes.
Shedinja stall is arguably the strongest singles team in the game
So if you go against a trainer with no super effective moves on Shedinja then is it a 100% win?🤔
I remember being so excited the first time I got a Shedinja. I was like, "Where did this come from?!" and I thought it was kind of cute. But yeah, I'd rather use Ninjask because you can actually use it like a regular Pokemon; Shedinja is a lot more limited. You have to run Focus Sash on it if you want any chance of lasting more than a turn, which means you have to send it out first before your opponent can set up any hazards. It's pretty frustrating.
All Hail Powerful Shiny(and lord) Shedinja !!
Shedninja is way better because in the right conditions its invincible. Especially when it has a focus sash! I killed so many Rayquaza with a Shedninja! So many battles I was loosing 1 to 4 and my one Shedninja pulled a victory!
No way. Rayquaza is almost always run as a mega so it needs to have dragon ascent
@@infinitethunder6184 What you don't believe me? I'll send my showdown replays. I've literally murdered thousands of Mega-Rayquaza! It just takes a skilled trainer.
@@quixotika3232 did you read what I said? All your opponents must have been complete noobs to not use their flying type move
@@infinitethunder6184 No they did use Dragon Ascent. They keep spamming it in fact. I just have focus sash and toxic, then I protect and then shadow sneak. Thats usually enough to just barely take out a Mega-Rayquaza but it always plays out like that. I just toxic stall with protect until I can't anymore then shadow sneak.
Shedinja is my favourite 'gimmick' pokemon.
Shedninja
Strategy:triple battle,use the 2 moves that give you the grass type and water type electric only weakness
Edit:shedninja is the sans of the pokemon world
is much better if only has water... grass is weak against bug and poison
Wow Shedinja Survived With Only 1 HP!
Do it, do it again!
Shedinja's in there for one of the most unique Pokemon out there
Ninjasks also pretty cool but how many other Bug/Flying types do we not have?
Their preevolution Nincada is also unique.
Nincada is the only pokemon where it has more base stat total than its Evolution(Shedinja)
Has more Defense, its Bug/Ground which only like 2 or 3 pokemon have, and has the least weaknesses(4 bc both Ninjask and Shedinja has 5 weaknesses).
Nincada is the only Bug/Ground
Ninjask is the fastest non-mythical/legendary mon period
Shedinja is Shedinja.
All of this line is very unique.