I wanted a RAV4 Limited, waited a few weeks with no luck on dealer allocations plus all the dealers were charging insane markups in my area, ended up finding a CX-50 on the lot and got it same day about 2 weeks ago. No regrets.
2023 CX 50 : Trim to trim, 3 to 4K US lower price than 2022 RAV4, and it’s made in Toyota plant USA with Toyota quality control. Rav4: 1 year older than CX 50, usually goes for higher dealer markups and you can’t shake off that rental car feeling. Yea it looks utilitarian but still quality doesn’t mach the high price. Want Toyota products go for Toyota Venza or Lexus NX... Long story short 2019 design vs 2023.
Test drive both, and you will feel the difference. All the reviewers constantly say, “it drives like a Mazda.” Once you test drive one, you will know what they mean.
No contest. CX-50 blown RAV4 away in every categories. If Mazda offers both hybrid and PHEV in CX-50, they will have an even stronger class leading product.
Less storage, more expensive, far worse fuel economy, torsion beam rear suspension, turbo + direct injected engine = worse reliability. Both have their pros and cons 😉
2023 CX 50 : Trim to trim, 3 to 4K US lower price than 2022 RAV4, and it’s made in Toyota plant USA with Toyota quality control. Rav4: 1 year older than CX 50, usually goes for higher dealer markups and you can’t shake off that rental car feeling. Yea it looks utilitarian but still quality doesn’t mach the high price. Want Toyota products go for Toyota Venza or Lexus NX... Long story short 2019 design vs 2023. And don’t buy Mazda CX 5...
@@tomjohnson8737 using the same engine and transmission as the CX 5. Sorry but the cx 5 has been rated more reliable than the rav 4 so this should be the same. Try educating yourself before posting. There's a reason the cx 5 is number one in the category.
For anyone considering a RAV4, it might be worth it for you to wait for the recently announced 2023. It includes an updated infotainment and dash screen. A big win is wireless Apple CarPlay. Additionally a Woodlands edition (hybrid) will include AT tires and TRD tuned suspension.
2023 CX 50 : Trim to trim, 3 to 4K US lower price than 2022 RAV4, and it’s made in Toyota plant USA with Toyota quality control. Rav4: 1 year older than CX 50, usually goes for higher dealer markups and you can’t shake off that rental car feeling. Yea it looks utilitarian but still quality doesn’t mach the high price. Want Toyota products go for Toyota Venza or Lexus NX... Long story short 2019 design vs 2023.
Ended up being sold on the cx50 and ordering a select trim (us) That said my test drive was in a higher trim premium preferred and I was impressed by the HUD and the hockey puck style infotainment system
I’m glad you did this comparison as I’m torn between the two. I’m ready hoping for the CX-50 hybrid to come out soon as I prefer the aesthetic of Mazda over Toyota. BUT with todays gas prices I really want a hybrid
@@danielwu7238 I currently own a Mazda and would prefer to stay with them bc of the loyalty interest rate offer here in Ontario can be up to 1 percent off whereas Toyota and Kia both offer 4.99 percent. Gotta keep costs down somehow
@@Ok-cb5lw Yah its a real shame to be a new car buyer right now because of the supply chains issues going on right now. So many auto manufacturers are behind schedule. 😭
Most likely it will yes. Then Mazda drivers that always make fun of Toyota's ECVT hybrid system will suddenly love it for its fuel economy and reliability 😄
I've already seen multiple CX-50s on the roads of Florida...very impressive looking. The number of variations available for Toyota is also impressive. I expect reliability will be fairly close to even...I would go with the more stylish option. I would roll with the CX-50....the upcoming off road editions are going to be sick.
We had a 2021 RAV4 as rental a few weeks back and then I rented a 2022 CX-5 a week after that. Given the CX-50 is a step up from the CX-5, it would be a no brainer for me. The RAV4’s interior was more spacious, seats were great and the interior usability was fantastic. But the comparison ends there, it was noisy and drove like a 1981 Ford pickup. Easily the worst driving vehicle I’ve ever been in. I’d gladly take the fuel economy hit and less space. The CX-5 blew away the RAV4 for me, without question…I would imagine the CX-50 would be even better.
There is a reason why now you have to wait 4-6 weeks to get a rav4 while you can go to Mazda and get a cx5/cx50 the same day despite Mazda always look better.
@@nanowar1192 What would that reason be? I've been in both and I came away feeling like Toyota is getting over on their name only. The CX5 was just better. It's reliability ratings are better as well. Unless you're getting the Rav 4 Hybrid the CX5 is simply better. Feels more luxurious. It's smooth and quiet, comfortable.
@@differencemaker242 Mazda right up there with Toyota and Honda, my neighbor is a very, very value minded buyer and bought two CX5's.... I'm sold, and a Mazda with be my next ride.... not sure if 5 or 50. Don't think a lot of people know about the Mazda quality.
I ended up not going with the Subaru Forester Premier after all and ordered a Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid Limited in Ruby Flare Pearl. The interior of the Forester is so beautiful and definitely feels more luxurious but, the thought of filling my car up less was extremely appealing. I have a pretty short city commute to work so I think it just made sense.
I really wanted to love the cx50 but then I realized that the non-turbo model costs $2k more upfront than the comparable rav4 hybrid model (xle), will cost me $700 a year more in gas @ $2/L, has worse resale value, and is slower than the rav4 hybrid. I had to make the sensible decision and put down a deposit on the Rav4 hybrid :/. The 20 year old me would’ve went with the cx50 but this must be a sign that I’m getting old.
Have you even driven the non turbo CX50 yet? You only showed the top trim turbo you did a review on previously. How can you do a comparison if you haven’t actually driven one of the models you’re comparing?
I have a 2021 RAV4 (non hybrid as the $5k difference at the time was not justified). Love the rugged look and better center console for map navigation. I've been impressed with Toyota's Safety Sense and I use the automatic cruise control daily on my Highway commute. Selling point for me definitely was the Bank of Toyota 😛
Thank you for the video, great comparison again ... a difficult choice ! Mazda is the better looking vehicle yet requires more fuel with its 6 speed transmission. Toyota Rav4, jeep-like square front end and a bit noisier because of the ''smart'' engine using both direct injection and port injection, to keep the valves clean. On the other hand, a possible better engine in the course of time , using less fuel. Since Mazda had already the CX-5, a CX-50 ''Hybrid option'' , this year, would have been wise, putting them in a better position to compete, however, I understand that Mazda is a smaller car company and patience is required.
Have a 2022 Rav and a 2022 CX30 Turbo Premium. No doubt the Mazda is the better vehicle but the Toyota is perfect for my daughter. Safe, Tech is not overly complicated, decent looking and will have great resale. My wife loves her Mazda and just loves the way it drives and the scroll wheel works just fine. The turbo engine just moves the car out quickly. I know it's not a CX-50 but the CX-50 is based on the CX-30
Great video Andrea! I think in gas level the winner is Mazda CX-50. On hybrid level it RAV4 but not for long once Mazda add hybrid, they might be a winner then.
She said very "true" while Mazda hasnt produce any hybrid vehicle so far and this would be the first one, also with turbo engine and hybrid I'm not sureabout long term reliability. These reviews are just like reading a brochures, and they don't like toyota at all and its very obvious 🤣🤣🤣 they like any others cross overs they reviewed except RAV4, the best selling vehicle in north America, maybe because they are not a toyota dealer.
@@kurtgrundel4045 If you get into an accident within five years of initial purchase, resale value will be the difference between the Insurance Company deeming your vehicle 'repairable' or a total loss. Resale value isn't just about trade-ins at the dealership.
I was torn between these two models, getting Toyota to remove their $4k mark-up fees and therefore making it just a bit cheaper than the CX-50, made the RAV4 the easy choice. Also, in my opinion, the exterior look of the Rav4 is just better
Everyone keeps talking about this Mazda being more “fun” to drive but RAV4 is better all around to me and looks more like an suv than the Mazda, much more gas efficient, more space, looks better, simple and clean. Happily waiting for mine to get here in about 4 weeks.
Waiting for the Mazda CX-60 plug-in to test in Belgium in August. CX-60 for Europe, CX-70 for US, Canada. Going to buy either Rav4 prime 2023 or Mazda CX-60. (My dealer said the Rav4 is going to get an infotainment upgrade, hope it's true 😉) Great content! Keep up the good work! Greetings from Belgium 👍😉
What’s great review!!!! I kick myself everyday because I used to have a 2015 Mazda 6 GT and traded it in 2019 for a RAV4 Adventure because Mazda didn’t offer an off-road ish crossover (not a fan of the more posh, bulbous looking CX-5). Now that Mazda has the CX-50 I’m gonna have to figure out a way to get into one, especially once they release the meridian edition. Much more upscale/premium looking (I enjoy slightly rugged ish mixed with premium feeling), and with the annoying issues that I’ve had with this RAV4 I won’t buy another Toyota. Mazda for me once I get out of this tin can (yes, the awd system literally goes clank, clank, clank as you’re coming to a stop and are driving with the windows down). Awesome review guys and thanks for the head to head comparison.
Amazing how a vehicle that has been in its present cycle since 2019 is still the benchmark. Maybe that’s why Toyota has two plants pumping these out within 80km of each other.
@@Magsbravo Its because both wheels are linked by a beam. It means when one wheel bounces the other wheel will be affected. It doesn't have any affect when on smooth roads but on rougher dirt roads and washboards, the wheel can bounce enough to loose contact with the dirt. This can be disconcerting at higher speeds going around a curve. Independent rear suspension is lighter weight so it can be easier to control this bounce without adding any harshness to the ride. The main advantage of the torsion beam is( like he said) cost cutting. Honda tried it in the Civic and abandoned it, now you see it on lower version of some compact and sub compact cars. It also help in packaging and was popular in mini vans for a wider lower load floor. Not something I would expect in an expensive vehicle.
I grew up in Windsor, Ontario so I pronounce Mazda in American. I tried the Rav4 and the seating is too upright. On long drives I need to straighten my legs from time to yime I I can't do that in the Rav4. I haven't seen the CX-50 in person yet. I can flex my legs in the CX-30.
The Rav 4 is what it always has been been. A rugged, no nonsense, take me almost anywhere, suv. The sooner the Rav gets an infotainment system that is derived from the new NX and the Tundra the better. Even if it's the only change. To me the CX50 is more along the lines of a nonhybrid version of the new Venza. More posh and car like. Hybrid will help this car in a big ways in my opinion. I drive a car with the torsion beam suspension(actually my old car had it too) and I found it works really well for a simple system.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your car with torsion beam suspension. I agree with you about the RAV4 getting the new touchscreen that's in the NX and bZ4X.
It used to be that Mazda was a great value. Premium feel without the premium price. Their new car prices have crept up in the past few years and you can get a BMW X1 for the price of the Mazda if you are looking at the higher trims and the BMW has a great deal more technology.
Maxda CX-5 owner ( 2018 ) and prior had Rev 4 ( 2006 ). I jokingly refer to the Rev 4 as the refrigerator of SUV. Totally bland and devoid of any driving excitement. I am mid 50's , so older but not so old that I don't enjoy driving dynamics and exciting interiors. Honestly , if you can afford a brand new car you can afford the fuel to get it down the road. Mazda really is the ZOOM ZOOM brand , and still smile when I take the. wifes Mazda on a trip.
Simple for me. Fuel efficiency and cargo. More ponies=less mileage. I do a lot of long commutes so the Mazda offers fewer benefits to the Mazda. Plus beating Toyota in reliability is tough
No vehicle is perfect but I feel the Toyota checks more of the boxes that are important to me. I've already ordered a Rav4 hybrid SE and your reviews helped me make that decision so thank you and great work! love the channel.
Love your channel! Personally, after having bought a new 1990 Mazda MX6 with manual transmission (which I really liked) I became disillusioned due to early failure of the power steering and catalytic systems. Both failed days after the warranty expired and were not covered. I like the Mazda design over the RAV4, but I would buy the RAV4 Hybrid over the Mazda for the reliability/gas savings advantages.
@@stuartaaron613 I fear that corporate mentality is resistant to change, regardless of years. In Japan in particular, change is a rare commodity. Granted corporate change is possible, but I wouldn't count on it.
Mazda is actually rated higher in reliability than Toyota right now. Mazda is the most reliable brand in the world, most notably in the CX-5. Toyota still holds strong in reliability, but like Stuart says, don’t compare old Mazda to modern Mazda, who is free of Ford and cruuuushing it.
I’m stuck choosing between Mazda and Toyota. Not not these two SUVs because I’d want something smaller though. Mazda 3 vs Corolla, or CX30 vs Corolla Cross if I decide to go the crossover route. Tough decision because they’re all great.
Not a fan of either one really, in terms of the styling or size. I prefer my vehicles smaller & sleeker, & went with a 2022 Mazda CX-30 CE (with zero issues/problems after 13 months thus far). Based on my problematic 2020 model year Toyota experience (built in Japan no-less), Toyota doesn't build them like they used to, so good luck rolling the dice on your next Toyota or new car purchase in general. Build quality & reliability seem more potluck than ever now.
A CX50 owner posted an in depth review on RUclips which was very informative. He has the turbo model. In the comments I asked him what his real world mpg#’s are. He said 20-22 around town. He drive pretty hard he said. That’s a real let down for me. I keep my cars a long time and as a rule I want a nice jump in fuel economy. My 2011 Scion XB gets the same mpg. Although the CX50 Turbo I’m sure is a blast to drive, I’m going to have to hold out for the hybrid version and take a look at that.
I own the cx50 turbo and have put on 2800 miles over past 4 weeks. Probably 2/3 was highway. Average mpg so far is 27. Drove them all before this ; RAV4 hybrid, CRV, RDX, Bronco sport. This handles and drives fantastic.
We don't have a problem with a simpler suspension (especially for non-enthusiast cars) we have a problem when we don't feel the savings are being passed onto the consumer. And there in lies the rub. Mazda CAN'T claim to be premium when they dumb down the car. They use the "3" platform to spin off a CX-50, a vehicle which is effectively on an inferior platform to the CX-5. But we called it the "50" so it's gotta be better, right? At least VW didn't try to charge more for the Atlas over the Touareg. The Atlas is bigger and has more room but it's riding on an FF platform vs the Touareg which is riding on an FR platform. But hey, most soccer moms can't tell the difference so who cares right?
Mazda's pricing is really creeping up. I'm guessing the Hybrid will easily be 50 in Canada. Mazda has worse in mpg and smaller. We own a 2020 cx5 for reference. Where is a cx70 or the new 9 going to be priced when this torsion beam equipped cx50 is at 45k? I'll wait to see a CRV hybrid.
@@Magsbravo google it. I mean it is not that I wouldn't, but a RUclips video on it would make it so much easier to understand. But it is simply cost cutting.
Long term reliability, paint quality and resale value will make the RAV4 a better choice. Plus the hybrid is an option now and $2 + Litre gas makes it an even better choice. Comparing the top turbo CX50 with the larger tires as a better handling vehicle was not fair either, Lol.
Well, the cx 5 is the same reliability as the RAV4 or better. My nephew's has 310,100 km and still going strong. My wife's had 240,000 km before traded. Also, the only safe SUV in this category
The leather seats on either one will not go over very well here in Arizona. Imagine setting your cheeks down on a hot leather seat when it's 110 degrees outside, and the inside is butt screaming- red rash on your a**...every time you get in, & the steering wheel is the same on your hands. It's even hot on the inside using a sun screen, so using a towel on the seat(s), work out gloves for the hot steering wheel, & leaving your/a window cracked open (about 1 finger) so the glass won't crack. I would prefer the CX-50, as I have a 2015 Mazda 3 2.0 with 187,000 on it, & it keeps on moving, as a testament to reliability of Mazda products. Just saying.
You can't win with a : RAV 4 (Prime excluded): Nice interior, generous space but Weak engine with no turbo option. CX-50 : fast turbo available, but hard short seats and stiff suspension. Not for those seeking a comfy ride. CRV : CVT with tiny whiney turbo engine. But nice interior and generous interior space. Best option ? : Jeep Cherokee : unreliable transmission, with powerful V6, comfy seats, reliable Uconnect. Loaded with nice features but Spartan looking interior. Decisons..decisions..
Mazda seems like it's always 5 years behind. Do they still rust away after 15 years? You would be hard pressed to find a spot of rust on a Toyota after 15 years.
I'm beginning to think it's not a good idea to purchase a new internal combustion vehicle....like it or not it seems we are in a transitional period and it looks as if at least in the western world gas cars won't be with us much longer....I like mazda and am thinking I will wait until they have an EV.
You need NOT continue to tell us about the difference in pronunciation between Canadian and U.S.. The Canadian pronunciation is dumb AF. Really enjoy your videos though!! 🙂
I wanted a RAV4 Limited, waited a few weeks with no luck on dealer allocations plus all the dealers were charging insane markups in my area, ended up finding a CX-50 on the lot and got it same day about 2 weeks ago. No regrets.
2023 CX 50 : Trim to trim, 3 to 4K US lower price than 2022 RAV4, and it’s made in Toyota plant USA with Toyota quality control. Rav4: 1 year older than CX 50, usually goes for higher dealer markups and you can’t shake off that rental car feeling. Yea it looks utilitarian but still quality doesn’t mach the high price. Want Toyota products go for Toyota Venza or Lexus NX...
Long story short 2019 design vs 2023.
Hi... Did you buy in US? What was the trim and price you bought for?
I am gonna get mine tomorrow, I am so excited, how has the experience been so far?
you are a smart guy
Test drive both, and you will feel the difference. All the reviewers constantly say, “it drives like a Mazda.” Once you test drive one, you will know what they mean.
Mazda easy pick. Better looking outside, better looking inside, better feeling inside, better tech, more fun to drive. Easy
No contest. CX-50 blown RAV4 away in every categories. If Mazda offers both hybrid and PHEV in CX-50, they will have an even stronger class leading product.
That piece of trash Mazda. Unreliable. Rav4 all day
Less storage, more expensive, far worse fuel economy, torsion beam rear suspension, turbo + direct injected engine = worse reliability. Both have their pros and cons 😉
@@tomjohnson8737 God bless you
2023 CX 50 : Trim to trim, 3 to 4K US lower price than 2022 RAV4, and it’s made in Toyota plant USA with Toyota quality control. Rav4: 1 year older than CX 50, usually goes for higher dealer markups and you can’t shake off that rental car feeling. Yea it looks utilitarian but still quality doesn’t mach the high price. Want Toyota products go for Toyota Venza or Lexus NX...
Long story short 2019 design vs 2023.
And don’t buy Mazda CX 5...
@@tomjohnson8737 using the same engine and transmission as the CX 5. Sorry but the cx 5 has been rated more reliable than the rav 4 so this should be the same. Try educating yourself before posting. There's a reason the cx 5 is number one in the category.
For anyone considering a RAV4, it might be worth it for you to wait for the recently announced 2023. It includes an updated infotainment and dash screen. A big win is wireless Apple CarPlay. Additionally a Woodlands edition (hybrid) will include AT tires and TRD tuned suspension.
2023 CX 50 : Trim to trim, 3 to 4K US lower price than 2022 RAV4, and it’s made in Toyota plant USA with Toyota quality control. Rav4: 1 year older than CX 50, usually goes for higher dealer markups and you can’t shake off that rental car feeling. Yea it looks utilitarian but still quality doesn’t mach the high price. Want Toyota products go for Toyota Venza or Lexus NX...
Long story short 2019 design vs 2023.
that left hvac air vent on the passenger side is awkward as hell on the CX50, they could've designed that better...
Great review! I would go with Mazda for the better dynamics and more premium feeling interior. I will say, this new Rav 4 has a handsome exterior.
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!
Both are a little lacking on the headroom so be sure to check if you're a taller front occupant
Ended up being sold on the cx50 and ordering a select trim (us)
That said my test drive was in a higher trim premium preferred and I was impressed by the HUD and the hockey puck style infotainment system
I’m glad you did this comparison as I’m torn between the two. I’m ready hoping for the CX-50 hybrid to come out soon as I prefer the aesthetic of Mazda over Toyota. BUT with todays gas prices I really want a hybrid
No confirmation from Mazda as to when the hybrid will be available but my bet is early next year.
I feel your pain. But maybe consider looking at the new Kia Sportage 2023. It has a unique styling as well as a hybrid
@@danielwu7238 I currently own a Mazda and would prefer to stay with them bc of the loyalty interest rate offer here in Ontario can be up to 1 percent off whereas Toyota and Kia both offer 4.99 percent. Gotta keep costs down somehow
@@danielwu7238 The top trim Sportage has been sold out near me and wait time is 6-9 months 😭
@@Ok-cb5lw Yah its a real shame to be a new car buyer right now because of the supply chains issues going on right now. So many auto manufacturers are behind schedule. 😭
Isn't Mazda using Toyota's hybrid system for the Hybrid CX-50? I heard that they where. That would give it very competitive fuel economy.
Most likely it will yes. Then Mazda drivers that always make fun of Toyota's ECVT hybrid system will suddenly love it for its fuel economy and reliability 😄
I've already seen multiple CX-50s on the roads of Florida...very impressive looking.
The number of variations available for Toyota is also impressive.
I expect reliability will be fairly close to even...I would go with the more stylish option.
I would roll with the CX-50....the upcoming off road editions are going to be sick.
Yes, can't wait for the Meridian trim to arrive and the hybrid.
We had a 2021 RAV4 as rental a few weeks back and then I rented a 2022 CX-5 a week after that. Given the CX-50 is a step up from the CX-5, it would be a no brainer for me. The RAV4’s interior was more spacious, seats were great and the interior usability was fantastic. But the comparison ends there, it was noisy and drove like a 1981 Ford pickup. Easily the worst driving vehicle I’ve ever been in. I’d gladly take the fuel economy hit and less space. The CX-5 blew away the RAV4 for me, without question…I would imagine the CX-50 would be even better.
There is a reason why now you have to wait 4-6 weeks to get a rav4 while you can go to Mazda and get a cx5/cx50 the same day despite Mazda always look better.
@@nanowar1192 What would that reason be? I've been in both and I came away feeling like Toyota is getting over on their name only. The CX5 was just better. It's reliability ratings are better as well. Unless you're getting the Rav 4 Hybrid the CX5 is simply better. Feels more luxurious. It's smooth and quiet, comfortable.
Yes try before you buy
@@differencemaker242 Mazda right up there with Toyota and Honda, my neighbor is a very, very value minded buyer and bought two CX5's.... I'm sold, and a Mazda with be my next ride.... not sure if 5 or 50. Don't think a lot of people know about the Mazda quality.
I ended up not going with the Subaru Forester Premier after all and ordered a Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid Limited in Ruby Flare Pearl. The interior of the Forester is so beautiful and definitely feels more luxurious but, the thought of filling my car up less was extremely appealing. I have a pretty short city commute to work so I think it just made sense.
Totally makes sense, you will be happy with the savings!
Cx50 hybrid is gonna go crazy
I really wanted to love the cx50 but then I realized that the non-turbo model costs $2k more upfront than the comparable rav4 hybrid model (xle), will cost me $700 a year more in gas @ $2/L, has worse resale value, and is slower than the rav4 hybrid. I had to make the sensible decision and put down a deposit on the Rav4 hybrid :/. The 20 year old me would’ve went with the cx50 but this must be a sign that I’m getting old.
In Sweden the RAV4 hybrid has 222HP and the plug-in has 306HP, I wonder why it is 3-4 less HP in north america..
Dirt roads. Serious cold. Snow. Steep hills. Sharp turns.
Which one is best for these conditions? I don't care about the toys.
i still go with the cx5, made in japan
That's it!
Have you even driven the non turbo CX50 yet? You only showed the top trim turbo you did a review on previously. How can you do a comparison if you haven’t actually driven one of the models you’re comparing?
I have a 2021 RAV4 (non hybrid as the $5k difference at the time was not justified). Love the rugged look and better center console for map navigation. I've been impressed with Toyota's Safety Sense and I use the automatic cruise control daily on my Highway commute. Selling point for me definitely was the Bank of Toyota 😛
Well you’re desi so of course you’ll buy a Toyota lol cheers
I LOVE my ravioli and the security features are amazing and work GREAT!!! I have a 2023 XLE
@@dianaleon1752-good to hear. XLE is what I’m leaning towards
Mazda should reduce the trim options. It complicates things.
Thank you for the video, great comparison again ... a difficult choice !
Mazda is the better looking vehicle yet requires more fuel with its 6 speed transmission.
Toyota Rav4, jeep-like square front end and a bit noisier because of the ''smart'' engine
using both direct injection and port injection, to keep the valves clean.
On the other hand, a possible better engine in the course of time , using less fuel.
Since Mazda had already the CX-5, a CX-50 ''Hybrid option'' , this year, would have been wise, putting them in a better position to compete, however, I understand that Mazda is a smaller car company and patience is required.
I just got the CX 50 turbo premium and I love it! But if you are looking for the best mpg's it's not for you.
A couple of MPH better does NOT offset the lack of performance !!! DUUUUUH!!!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 MPG's my guy. I was talking about the gas tank, not the speed.
Hi guys would you recommend the cx50 for older couple with small grandkids?
Have a 2022 Rav and a 2022 CX30 Turbo Premium. No doubt the Mazda is the better vehicle but the Toyota is perfect for my daughter. Safe, Tech is not overly complicated, decent looking and will have great resale. My wife loves her Mazda and just loves the way it drives and the scroll wheel works just fine. The turbo engine just moves the car out quickly. I know it's not a CX-50 but the CX-50 is based on the CX-30
Hey man, that's cheating. You can't have both! You're disqualified.
Great video Andrea! I think in gas level the winner is Mazda CX-50. On hybrid level it RAV4 but not for long once Mazda add hybrid, they might be a winner then.
Very true, many are looking forward to the CX-50 Hybrid, it will be very popular.
We just have to wait and see if Mazda can compete with the hybrid.
She said very "true" while Mazda hasnt produce any hybrid vehicle so far and this would be the first one, also with turbo engine and hybrid I'm not sureabout long term reliability.
These reviews are just like reading a brochures, and they don't like toyota at all and its very obvious 🤣🤣🤣 they like any others cross overs they reviewed except RAV4, the best selling vehicle in north America, maybe because they are not a toyota dealer.
It's too bad no hybrid or PHEV model for Mazda. It's the main reason I purchased a RAV4 hybrid instead.
Less sporty but much better fuel economy and reliability (not turbo direct injected engine).
I only have one complaint with RAV4 which is the noisy engine(GDI). overall it's a good SUV.
My sister bought a Rav4 and to this day still complains about how noisy the cabin is!
Where is the CX-60 PHEV that Mazda released in Europe? That would kill in the Canadian market
Great comparison. Its the Mazda for me. Thanks for the video.
I will buy the CX-50
You did not do your regular "3-2-1 which would you choose" countdown. So...which would each of you choose?
For me, it's the CX-50 simply for the way it handles, it's a lot of fun to drive.
id take the Rav simply cause of resale value
my opinion thanx
I buy a car for me and not the next person. I want to enjoy it while behind the wheel and after 5 or more years the difference is minimal in resale.
@@kurtgrundel4045 thanx Man. Your welcome to add to my pocket anytime alright. -wink- As STATED above my opinion. Thanx again.
@@kurtgrundel4045 If you get into an accident within five years of initial purchase, resale value will be the difference between the Insurance Company deeming your vehicle 'repairable' or a total loss. Resale value isn't just about trade-ins at the dealership.
I was torn between these two models, getting Toyota to remove their $4k mark-up fees and therefore making it just a bit cheaper than the CX-50, made the RAV4 the easy choice. Also, in my opinion, the exterior look of the Rav4 is just better
Everyone keeps talking about this Mazda being more “fun” to drive but RAV4 is better all around to me and looks more like an suv than the Mazda, much more gas efficient, more space, looks better, simple and clean. Happily waiting for mine to get here in about 4 weeks.
Thank you so much to both of you. Great review.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Waiting for the Mazda CX-60 plug-in to test in Belgium in August. CX-60 for Europe, CX-70 for US, Canada. Going to buy either Rav4 prime 2023 or Mazda CX-60. (My dealer said the Rav4 is going to get an infotainment upgrade, hope it's true 😉)
Great content! Keep up the good work! Greetings from Belgium 👍😉
What’s great review!!!! I kick myself everyday because I used to have a 2015 Mazda 6 GT and traded it in 2019 for a RAV4 Adventure because Mazda didn’t offer an off-road ish crossover (not a fan of the more posh, bulbous looking CX-5). Now that Mazda has the CX-50 I’m gonna have to figure out a way to get into one, especially once they release the meridian edition. Much more upscale/premium looking (I enjoy slightly rugged ish mixed with premium feeling), and with the annoying issues that I’ve had with this RAV4 I won’t buy another Toyota. Mazda for me once I get out of this tin can (yes, the awd system literally goes clank, clank, clank as you’re coming to a stop and are driving with the windows down). Awesome review guys and thanks for the head to head comparison.
Amazing how a vehicle that has been in its present cycle since 2019 is still the benchmark. Maybe that’s why Toyota has two plants pumping these out within 80km of each other.
Rav 5 looks terrible
@@mbenton6 Might not be the best looking ,but is the Measuring stick all Manufacturers have in the crosshairs isn't it Maurice ?
The CX 5 is number 1 in every single top 10. Even the CRV is over the Rav 4.
@@Brisco_County_Jr As I said the Rav is still the one they compare all others to.
@@markkennedy5335 that's not true though. It's the CX5. It's been the CX5 since the refresh. The only thing it lacks is cargo space.
No contest here at all. Rav, simply put is not in the same class and can't compete
Can you make a comparison video on the 2023 Mazda Cx-50 and 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe.
Not a big fan of the torsion beam rear suspension of the Mazda. It probably rides fine on road, but on a dirt road? I wonder.
What’s the reason for not being a fan of torsion beam? Please explain
@@Magsbravo Its because both wheels are linked by a beam. It means when one wheel bounces the other wheel will be affected. It doesn't have any affect when on smooth roads but on rougher dirt roads and washboards, the wheel can bounce enough to loose contact with the dirt. This can be disconcerting at higher speeds going around a curve. Independent rear suspension is lighter weight so it can be easier to control this bounce without adding any harshness to the ride. The main advantage of the torsion beam is( like he said) cost cutting. Honda tried it in the Civic and abandoned it, now you see it on lower version of some compact and sub compact cars. It also help in packaging and was popular in mini vans for a wider lower load floor. Not something I would expect in an expensive vehicle.
I grew up in Windsor, Ontario so I pronounce Mazda in American. I tried the Rav4 and the seating is too upright. On long drives I need to straighten my legs from time to yime I I can't do that in the Rav4. I haven't seen the CX-50 in person yet. I can flex my legs in the CX-30.
IMO, we need to see the hybrid solution for Mazda. I think Mazda may still qualify for tax credit in the US, where Toyota may not.
The Rav 4 is what it always has been been. A rugged, no nonsense, take me almost anywhere, suv. The sooner the Rav gets an infotainment system that is derived from the new NX and the Tundra the better. Even if it's the only change.
To me the CX50 is more along the lines of a nonhybrid version of the new Venza. More posh and car like. Hybrid will help this car in a big ways in my opinion.
I drive a car with the torsion beam suspension(actually my old car had it too) and I found it works really well for a simple system.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your car with torsion beam suspension. I agree with you about the RAV4 getting the new touchscreen that's in the NX and bZ4X.
The 2023 rav4 will have an improved infotainment system and larger screens.
It used to be that Mazda was a great value. Premium feel without the premium price. Their new car prices have crept up in the past few years and you can get a BMW X1 for the price of the Mazda if you are looking at the higher trims and the BMW has a great deal more technology.
Maxda CX-5 owner ( 2018 ) and prior had Rev 4 ( 2006 ). I jokingly refer to the Rev 4 as the refrigerator of SUV. Totally bland and devoid of any driving excitement. I am mid 50's , so older but not so old that I don't enjoy driving dynamics and exciting interiors. Honestly , if you can afford a brand new car you can afford the fuel to get it down the road. Mazda really is the ZOOM ZOOM brand , and still smile when I take the. wifes Mazda on a trip.
Simple for me. Fuel efficiency and cargo. More ponies=less mileage. I do a lot of long commutes so the Mazda offers fewer benefits to the Mazda. Plus beating Toyota in reliability is tough
Well based on 2021 Consumer Report, Mazda ranks second as the most reliable brand and Toyota ranks third.. so 🤷🏻♂️
No vehicle is perfect but I feel the Toyota checks more of the boxes that are important to me. I've already ordered a Rav4 hybrid SE and your reviews helped me make that decision so thank you and great work! love the channel.
Toyota's formula for success...
RELIABILITY (plain and simple) 😋
And resale value + peace of mind (less breakdowns) + low cost of ownership.
But based on 2021 Consumer Reports, Mazda ranks second for most reliable brand and Toyota ranks third.. 🤷🏻♂️
Lol. Mazda CX 5 is more reliable.
Toyota reliability can be a bit of myth, class action against Toyota in Australia for engine issues...they not what they uses to be
@@Magsbravo But people keep repeating this mantra about Toyota without doin the research lol
The Toyota RAV4 Prime PHEV is severely limited in charging time at 0deg C and WILL NOT charge at all at -20C.
Both reviews are very good 🌟
I like both.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the comparison!
@@andreaspencer9813 I did,
Thank you!
Love your channel! Personally, after having bought a new 1990 Mazda MX6 with manual transmission (which I really liked) I became disillusioned due to early failure of the power steering and catalytic systems. Both failed days after the warranty expired and were not covered. I like the Mazda design over the RAV4, but I would buy the RAV4 Hybrid over the Mazda for the reliability/gas savings advantages.
Please don't compare you 1990 Mazda to today's current lineup. Remember that back then Mazda was in a partnership with Ford.
@@stuartaaron613 I fear that corporate mentality is resistant to change, regardless of years. In Japan in particular, change is a rare commodity. Granted corporate change is possible, but I wouldn't count on it.
Mazda is actually rated higher in reliability than Toyota right now. Mazda is the most reliable brand in the world, most notably in the CX-5. Toyota still holds strong in reliability, but like Stuart says, don’t compare old Mazda to modern Mazda, who is free of Ford and cruuuushing it.
@@ABRisthestandard ratings are ratings, but Toyota is more reliable, period. Mazda isn't bad, but it is no Toyota.
I wonder if this light RAV4 refresh is enough to compete against the new CR-V redesign…
No way!
Looking forward to another comparison video Andrea and Zack.
I’m stuck choosing between Mazda and Toyota. Not not these two SUVs because I’d want something smaller though. Mazda 3 vs Corolla, or CX30 vs Corolla Cross if I decide to go the crossover route. Tough decision because they’re all great.
If gas price is a concern, definitely get the Corolla hybrid if you decide that you don't need a crossover.
Lol if u want something that will break on you get Mazda. If you want something thatis proven to last a long time get toyota
@@tomjohnson8737 which Mazda did you own
@@architecturedraft5559 Mazda 3.
Hi I was curious about the visibility in the Mazda. I am about 5 feet and find the visibility out the back to be problematic in some cars. Thank you
It seemed fine to me, I didn't notice a visibility problem but I am taller at 5'7".
@@andreaspencer9813 Thank you
@@vanessafleisch My wife is 5'1 and drives our CX-50 to work daily with no problems
Not a fan of either one really, in terms of the styling or size. I prefer my vehicles smaller & sleeker, & went with a 2022 Mazda CX-30 CE (with zero issues/problems after 13 months thus far). Based on my problematic 2020 model year Toyota experience (built in Japan no-less), Toyota doesn't build them like they used to, so good luck rolling the dice on your next Toyota or new car purchase in general. Build quality & reliability seem more potluck than ever now.
Can you please do the review of new Jeep Compass Trailhawk elite trim ?
Mazda can’t even integrate the signal light into the DRL…
A six speed auto? In 2022, really?
Yes. From an engine with more torque they get away with less moving parts, more reliability and faster shifts.
A CX50 owner posted an in depth review on RUclips which was very informative. He has the turbo model. In the comments I asked him what his real world mpg#’s are. He said 20-22 around town. He drive pretty hard he said. That’s a real let down for me. I keep my cars a long time and as a rule I want a nice jump in fuel economy. My 2011 Scion XB gets the same mpg. Although the CX50 Turbo I’m sure is a blast to drive, I’m going to have to hold out for the hybrid version and take a look at that.
But the Sport mode with a Turbo is just so fun!
I have cx-5 turbo and i get about 24mpg combined. it's about 22city and 27highway (very close to mazda's claims). Non-turbo should be better.
I own the cx50 turbo and have put on 2800 miles over past 4 weeks. Probably 2/3 was highway. Average mpg so far is 27. Drove them all before this ; RAV4 hybrid, CRV, RDX, Bronco sport. This handles and drives fantastic.
No question! hands down... we have a Winner!
The new CR-V will be the best of the bunch!
Not if Honda doesn't change the terrible current drivetrain. The CVT sucks and the vehicle is underpowered.
Seinfeld level comedy. Haha.
We don't have a problem with a simpler suspension (especially for non-enthusiast cars) we have a problem when we don't feel the savings are being passed onto the consumer. And there in lies the rub. Mazda CAN'T claim to be premium when they dumb down the car. They use the "3" platform to spin off a CX-50, a vehicle which is effectively on an inferior platform to the CX-5. But we called it the "50" so it's gotta be better, right?
At least VW didn't try to charge more for the Atlas over the Touareg. The Atlas is bigger and has more room but it's riding on an FF platform vs the Touareg which is riding on an FR platform. But hey, most soccer moms can't tell the difference so who cares right?
I wondered the same... Both look great, but if the CX50 on inferior platform to the CX5, why is it more expensive than the CX5?? Just b/c Mazda can?
Someone owns a Toyota
@@architecturedraft5559 Someone is smart
Mazda's pricing is really creeping up. I'm guessing the Hybrid will easily be 50 in Canada. Mazda has worse in mpg and smaller. We own a 2020 cx5 for reference. Where is a cx70 or the new 9 going to be priced when this torsion beam equipped cx50 is at 45k? I'll wait to see a CRV hybrid.
Explain torsion beam? And how it affects the driving?
@@Magsbravo google it. I mean it is not that I wouldn't, but a RUclips video on it would make it so much easier to understand. But it is simply cost cutting.
Long term reliability, paint quality and resale value will make the RAV4 a better choice. Plus the hybrid is an option now and $2 + Litre gas makes it an even better choice. Comparing the top turbo CX50 with the larger tires as a better handling vehicle was not fair either, Lol.
Well, the cx 5 is the same reliability as the RAV4 or better. My nephew's has 310,100 km and still going strong. My wife's had 240,000 km before traded. Also, the only safe SUV in this category
Need to improve infotainment look and OS
GOOD
👍👍👍
If you're looking for a hybrid or an electric car then welcome to Toyota otherwise Mazda
How’s the rusting in Mazda now ?
Would be nice if Mazda gets Toyota's Rav4 Prime's engine.
The leather seats on either one will not go over very well here in Arizona. Imagine setting your cheeks down on a hot leather seat when it's 110 degrees outside, and the inside is butt screaming- red rash on your a**...every time you get in, & the steering wheel is the same on your hands. It's even hot on the inside using a sun screen, so using a towel on the seat(s), work out gloves for the hot steering wheel, & leaving your/a window cracked open (about 1 finger) so the glass won't crack. I would prefer the CX-50, as I have a 2015 Mazda 3 2.0 with 187,000 on it, & it keeps on moving, as a testament to reliability of Mazda products. Just saying.
You can't win with a :
RAV 4 (Prime excluded): Nice interior, generous space but
Weak engine with no turbo option.
CX-50 : fast turbo available, but hard short seats and stiff suspension. Not for those seeking a comfy ride.
CRV : CVT with tiny whiney turbo engine. But nice interior and generous interior space.
Best option ? :
Jeep Cherokee : unreliable transmission, with powerful V6, comfy seats, reliable Uconnect. Loaded with nice features but Spartan looking interior.
Decisons..decisions..
CX-50 > RAV4
Normally I'm a Mazda fan but I think this Mazda just looks so hideous especially with those side rear vents so I'm with Toyota on this 1
Lol..who wants to sleep on top of car mazda.
Mazda seems like it's always 5 years behind. Do they still rust away after 15 years? You would be hard pressed to find a spot of rust on a Toyota after 15 years.
BS. The last decade Mazdas have been just as reliable as Toyotas. And they always had a far superior interior. 5 years behind??? Okay....
Mazda’s look nice in my opinion. Really liking the CX 50. Mazda is a Japanese company, they 5 years ahead of the world lol
Didn’t the Tacoma have rust issues at one point?
Won’t consider any Mazda till they move away from 6 speed transmission to 8-10 speed
I'm beginning to think it's not a good idea to purchase a new internal combustion vehicle....like it or not it seems we are in a transitional period and it looks as if at least in the western world gas cars won't be with us much longer....I like mazda and am thinking I will wait until they have an EV.
You need NOT continue to tell us about the difference in pronunciation between Canadian and U.S.. The Canadian pronunciation is dumb AF. Really enjoy your videos though!! 🙂