33:39 Great, so not only are we sending weapons and money to be used against civilians in violation of 2 (TWO) US Laws + The Geneva Conventions and now we’re making ourselves more unsafe??? Are you kidding me? Tell Netanyahu “NO!”
Just wait for his pro trump campaign speech once he speaks in fron of congress. Tho I guess king bibi shaking hands with the "threat of democracy" on buildboards not 4 years ago was just a funny coincidence. Save the climate by voting for the guy who invests in eternal war machines!
More to the point, just stop sending Israel money and weapons and running political interference for them. Consider reinstating it when the Palestinian death toll has fallen to below the 10 year average.
The biggest nonsense about Ukraine being a money hole is that it’s precisely what the US policy approach has guaranteed- without air superiority, Ukraine never had the ability to win and the US has known that from the beginning. It’s a useful grinder for Russia from a typically short-sighted US strategic position.
Neolibs always sing the same song. But we already know that social safety nets are long term deflationary, and austerity is long term inflationary. Good luck Argentina.
In one way, it's good to know we're not the only f,d up country right now. But in the other way, what's going on in the world where authoritarians are getting a foothold where before they were dreaded?
Thanks for having Ilhan Omar on. Her leadership should be celebrated around the world. Also, anyone whose student loans have been forgiven by the Biden Admin owes her a great deal of gratitude- that was a fringe position 4 years ago and her leadership and advocacy pushed an elderly moderate in the White House like Biden to the left.
Ben and Tommy together are music. I am so glad you are addressing the huge things going on internationally to which much of the US is completely oblivious.
It boils down to this question. Do you want World War III to be fought with Nuclear Weapons? If you're smart and care about self preservation, your family, children and answered No. I strongly urgue you to call your local repersentative and voice your concerns about these wars escalating. Sane people need to put pressure on our politicians to reign in these wars FAST. Come on Worldo's, this is our world and planet and we can't sleep walk into a Nuclear World War III.
Thank you both for a wonderful show. Thank you for talking about how this war in Gaza is making us less safe. The article in Foreign Affairs was really helpful
A common talking punt abs theme of the podcast seems to be that diplomacy is the best way to deal with the many conflicts going on around the world. How do we get the American public to support more funding for the State Department over our ever increasing funding for the Defense Department?
Agree diplomacy is the best way. Shame those in top positions in State are currently all pro war. Nulan was a disaster appointment, the current one isn't any better. All involved in Iraq/ Afghanistan wars. Why promote the incompetent.
Careless use of language to describe the French coalition of the left as "four far left parties". One of them certainly is, two of them certainly are not, and one of them is a strange post-communist relic which has somehow survived historical oblivion. The left in France is a very complicated and nuanced subject, and it's interesting to ask why the centre left chooses to join the far left rather than Macron's block in the centre, when it is very obviously pulled in both directions. You could have done much better. Your language effectively equated the left coalition (le Nouveau Front Populaire) with the far right, which is a monolith and not a coalition by any definition. I tell you this because I value what you do.
Mais non. Greens are Centre Left to Left; the PCF is a member of the Party of the European Party Left, the Socialist Party is centre left and for decades was the largest party of the French Left, and La France Insoumise is a left-wing political party in France, launched in 2016 by Jean-Luc Mélenchon, then a Member of the European Parliament and former co-president of the Left Party. It aims to implement the eco-socialist and democratic socialist programme L'Avenir en commun.
@@deborahpach8513is your "mais non" in response to me or to the broadcast? I guess I'll assume the latter. Anyway, yes, that's further info to what I said, but let's just note that you left out quite a lot which we could now add about Jean-Luc Mélenchon being (let's put it politely) extremely controversial and problematic right now!
They are also confused about people celebrating Oct 7th. As a radical leftist myself it's my experience that no one on the far left condoned the killing of civilians and that there were only celebrations for Oct 7th intially when it was understood that military targets were attacked (whoch they were). Lazy strawman from the boys - would be nice to hear actual reasons why they think these leftist parties have bad elements (I suspect they just love capitalism).
That was my reaction as well, this language echoes the bullshit we get all day on the billionaire-owned French media, equating the left-wing coalition (a collection of more or less progressive but firmly democratic parties) with a far right extremist party founded by literal former Waffen SS and steeped in xenophobia and authoritarianism since its creation. One guy on the left says something stupid and the entire coalition is antisemitic etc.? Give me a break, we’ve had literal neonazis marching in the streets, guess who *they* vote for? Maybe stop reading the Figaro, or at the very least choose a more diversified media diet…
It is totally untrue that Netanyahu has a “relatively small base of support in Israel”. He has served as PM for 16 years. Yes, there has been significant public outrage and mass protests, but we cannot pretend that he doesn’t have a massive base of support. That’s like saying Trump has a small base. Trump could very well win the 2024 election, as could Netanyahu. The wishful thinking from Democrats who approach foreign policy from a partisan lens and assume others agree with their politics is distracting and doesn’t serve U.S. interests.
Israel has a parliamentary system. They don’t elect their executive branch. And Netanyahu’s base *is* small. Their electoral system isn’t compromised by politicking and gerrymandering, like ours is. If elections were held, he would need a minor miracle to form a majority coalition, after all of this.
Ben's microphone needs more clarity. It could be an EQ adjustment, replacing a battery, a bad cable, or even needing the screen and filter cleaning as a place to start.
I consider myself left but moderately left. I was surprise to see that Pod Save the World was judged left to very left by a pod review thing. That surprised me and made me feel everything has moved further right. Am I right or misguided? As an example, I am 77 and lived through Watergater. I don’t think Nixon would have left office. Indeed, he probably be lauded somehow in today’s world.
IMO Left is now a subverted and confusing term. It used to mean "towards communism or socialism" now it (might?) mean "towards humanism". What does it say about the Right that it labels anything that puts human beings first as opposite to it? Nothing good IMO. It doesn't help that humanists label THEMSELVES as Left. The term Right used to mean "towards fascism." Now it seems to include "towards conservatism". What does it say about humanists that they labels traditional values as opposite? Apart from anything else I think it means they're stupid.
You know Hitler didn't attend Tehran or Yalta when Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt met for their Peace Summit. There was a very obvious reason for that .
@@Maja-Danmark Stalin was on the side of the Allies, after Hitler invaded Russia, (and the Russian part of half of Poland that Russia claimed in 1939/40 when he did have a pact with Hitler) Hence, the most vicious battle for Stalingrad between the Nazis/Germans and the Russians, which was the Battle that turned the War and put the Nazis and Hitler on the back foot in losing WWII overall to the Allies thereafter which very much included Stalin, or Uncle Joe, as the West called him while he was an Ally with the West at this time of WWII.
When you both say you’re for a ceasefire deal “on both sides”, how do you reconcile with the fact that there was a ceasefire in place on Oct 7th? Hamas leadership has vowed to repeat Oct 7th again and again. What are your responses to that? You both do a great job both sidesing this issue, but never truly get into the hard questions.
You would not go to war, without securing the air space first. Any movement on the ground would be easily spotted, targeted and taken out. Drones show this will great effect, but it is NO substitute for air superiority,. A no fly zone would be nice, but once again without air superiority, the Ukrainians are being hampered with help.
Politician brags: "Don't worry, voters. This specific batch of lethal aid isn't at the expense of tax payers. This time, we mugged an adversarial nuclear power. Snatched their cheese outta their wallet. Publicly pilfered, on the global stage." Voters: "That sounds like the type of insult that necessitates retaliation..." Politician falters: "What do you mean?" Voters: "DONT antagonize folks who have nukes. FFS."
I like these guys so much and used to listen to the podcast entranced, but gradually realized they have zero idea what they're talking about. Ben Rhodes disparaged the PDB in a previous podcast, which I hear is simultaneously the most rewarding and the WORST job in the United States Government because it's so stressful to make, and Tommy talked about the one intelligence "sever" as if he was describing US government interwebs as pneumatic tubes. I lost all confidence that they and their team are competent in research. They're just saying stuff. They don't have the native expertise to talk about international affairs and they don't have the time to research what they need to before vomiting out a bunch of nonsense. These are the bosses you email detailed, cited, researched work to, and they proceed to not read it and just riff. Like, the war in Palestine is completely awash in misunderstanding and misinformation and they just read headlines uncritically I'm a rando on the internet but on multiple occasions I've been like, "oh hey maybe that's a little off." and have found grievous errors in this podcast, mostly about the Middle East, defense, and legal issues For example, the blockade of northern Yemen has come up many times in context of the Saudi actions. They've talked repeatedly about food insecurity and famine, but never mentioned the UN Inspection program to allow food stuffs into Yemen. Here it is vimye.org/. Oh hey, there's an entire mechanism to get food there. Part of the problem is there's only one major port, it does ~80% of the food trade, and it has no designed capability to handle containers. Here's a Wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hudaydah. It took 20 seconds longer than expected because I forgot how to spell Hudaydah. Here's where the port is: 14°50'17"N 42°56'09"E. Looks like there's two cranes and only one fricking highway to Sanaa. Maybe there's a more complicated issue at hand. This is not an ideological stance. I'm not arguing the Saudi regime doesn't suck. Encounter one of their motorists and find out. I'm stating the research and understanding on this podcast is so lazy, it's undermining their core arguments. They're just saying stuff
Note to Neo Cons in DNC stop getting involved in stupid wars, including proxy wars. Find another productive way to boost US economy and be the democratic world power. Progressive need to stand up and tell DNC Neo Cons that. Tucker Carlson podcast with Glen Greenwald is worth listening to on this. John Mersheimer and Jeffery Sachs have spoken extensively on this also.
@@ryanjohnson6272 I used to think the same way, especially when he was at Fox. But you have to give him credit to standing up to Neo Cons and stupid wars that are against US interests like Ben & Tommy said. I don't agree with all the things he says but you can't make an educated decision unless you listen to the other person's perspective. Something the Obamas also advocate.
Getting involved in stupid wars? Yeah. Why spill your own blood when somebody else is willing to but need help? Tucker and Mersheimer are full of it. They should go to Ukraine and ask questions - maybe they'll learn something Israel is a touchy topic. NeoCons are on the Conservative side.
We have to quit with the “shoveling $60B to Ukraine” nonsense. That money goes into the American economy to build weapons. Sadly, military manufacturing is a vital American jobs program.
The mere use of the words money and funds is damaging, too Those who are smart and interested know. Those who are not, are the ones who need to be told the truth in a concise manner
@@Maja-Danmark What is your truth? If we defund the US weapons procurement policies and, thereby, the weapons manufacturing industry, where do those tens of thousands of workers find jobs? Walmart is laying off.
@@robertbritt6134 The truth is the truth Unfortunately, SoMe, disinformation, the lack of critical thinking and poor messaging from honest politicians all contribute to undermining the facts
I mean first impressions maybe we shouldn’t be giving Netanyahu weapons and money, just a wild thought 💁♂️
Mjsruju😂d
33:39 Great, so not only are we sending weapons and money to be used against civilians in violation of 2 (TWO) US Laws + The Geneva Conventions and now we’re making ourselves more unsafe??? Are you kidding me? Tell Netanyahu “NO!”
Just wait for his pro trump campaign speech once he speaks in fron of congress. Tho I guess king bibi shaking hands with the "threat of democracy" on buildboards not 4 years ago was just a funny coincidence. Save the climate by voting for the guy who invests in eternal war machines!
More to the point, just stop sending Israel money and weapons and running political interference for them. Consider reinstating it when the Palestinian death toll has fallen to below the 10 year average.
The biggest nonsense about Ukraine being a money hole is that it’s precisely what the US policy approach has guaranteed- without air superiority, Ukraine never had the ability to win and the US has known that from the beginning. It’s a useful grinder for Russia from a typically short-sighted US strategic position.
Agree, that's factually correct.
Neolibs always sing the same song. But we already know that social safety nets are long term deflationary, and austerity is long term inflationary. Good luck Argentina.
In one way, it's good to know we're not the only f,d up country right now. But in the other way, what's going on in the world where authoritarians are getting a foothold where before they were dreaded?
YOUR GREATEST THREAT BY FAR IS DOMESTIC AND RHYMES WITH CHUMP
Thanks for having Ilhan Omar on. Her leadership should be celebrated around the world. Also, anyone whose student loans have been forgiven by the Biden Admin owes her a great deal of gratitude- that was a fringe position 4 years ago and her leadership and advocacy pushed an elderly moderate in the White House like Biden to the left.
Y'all keep me sane. I have an interview in Medellín for a security job and it's wild that I feel safer in Colombia than my home of Texas.
The tension doesn't have a release in texas, and it's been building for so long
Columbia has already had the explosion/release
Hope you get the job and never come back.
MAGA 2024
Ben and Tommy together are music. I am so glad you are addressing the huge things going on internationally to which much of the US is completely oblivious.
Wow u believe those idts
Hello, BEN n TOMMY, Tom n Jerry probably more interested in people's wellbeing..
It boils down to this question.
Do you want World War III to be fought with Nuclear Weapons?
If you're smart and care about self preservation, your family, children and answered No. I strongly urgue you to call your local repersentative and voice your concerns about these wars escalating. Sane people need to put pressure on our politicians to reign in these wars FAST. Come on Worldo's, this is our world and planet and we can't sleep walk into a Nuclear World War III.
Even though view count is low, please keep providing this important information to us!
It’s also available as a podcast. I’m sure they have a lot more listeners on Spotify. Apple, etc, than RUclips viewers.
Out here just negging the pod
YOU guys rock it every week - the new Daily Show for global news. Thank you.
Thank you both for a wonderful show. Thank you for talking about how this war in Gaza is making us less safe. The article in Foreign Affairs was really helpful
A common talking punt abs theme of the podcast seems to be that diplomacy is the best way to deal with the many conflicts going on around the world. How do we get the American public to support more funding for the State Department over our ever increasing funding for the Defense Department?
Agree diplomacy is the best way. Shame those in top positions in State are currently all pro war. Nulan was a disaster appointment, the current one isn't any better. All involved in Iraq/ Afghanistan wars. Why promote the incompetent.
Careless use of language to describe the French coalition of the left as "four far left parties". One of them certainly is, two of them certainly are not, and one of them is a strange post-communist relic which has somehow survived historical oblivion. The left in France is a very complicated and nuanced subject, and it's interesting to ask why the centre left chooses to join the far left rather than Macron's block in the centre, when it is very obviously pulled in both directions. You could have done much better. Your language effectively equated the left coalition (le Nouveau Front Populaire) with the far right, which is a monolith and not a coalition by any definition. I tell you this because I value what you do.
Mais non. Greens are Centre Left to Left; the PCF is a member of the Party of the European Party Left, the Socialist Party is centre left and for decades was the largest party of the French Left, and La France Insoumise is a left-wing political party in France, launched in 2016 by Jean-Luc Mélenchon, then a Member of the European Parliament and former co-president of the Left Party. It aims to implement the eco-socialist and democratic socialist programme L'Avenir en commun.
@@deborahpach8513is your "mais non" in response to me or to the broadcast? I guess I'll assume the latter. Anyway, yes, that's further info to what I said, but let's just note that you left out quite a lot which we could now add about Jean-Luc Mélenchon being (let's put it politely) extremely controversial and problematic right now!
american liberals are sadly unknowingly rightwing
They are also confused about people celebrating Oct 7th.
As a radical leftist myself it's my experience that no one on the far left condoned the killing of civilians and that there were only celebrations for Oct 7th intially when it was understood that military targets were attacked (whoch they were).
Lazy strawman from the boys - would be nice to hear actual reasons why they think these leftist parties have bad elements (I suspect they just love capitalism).
That was my reaction as well, this language echoes the bullshit we get all day on the billionaire-owned French media, equating the left-wing coalition (a collection of more or less progressive but firmly democratic parties) with a far right extremist party founded by literal former Waffen SS and steeped in xenophobia and authoritarianism since its creation. One guy on the left says something stupid and the entire coalition is antisemitic etc.? Give me a break, we’ve had literal neonazis marching in the streets, guess who *they* vote for?
Maybe stop reading the Figaro, or at the very least choose a more diversified media diet…
35:52 exactly!
Gaza would end overnight if we STOPPED SENDING WEAPONS AND MONEY. Just say no you’re right Ben this is NOT in our interests 36:17
Why does Tommy look like he used Trump's bronzer in this vid??
It is totally untrue that Netanyahu has a “relatively small base of support in Israel”. He has served as PM for 16 years. Yes, there has been significant public outrage and mass protests, but we cannot pretend that he doesn’t have a massive base of support. That’s like saying Trump has a small base. Trump could very well win the 2024 election, as could Netanyahu. The wishful thinking from Democrats who approach foreign policy from a partisan lens and assume others agree with their politics is distracting and doesn’t serve U.S. interests.
Israel has a parliamentary system. They don’t elect their executive branch. And Netanyahu’s base *is* small. Their electoral system isn’t compromised by politicking and gerrymandering, like ours is. If elections were held, he would need a minor miracle to form a majority coalition, after all of this.
The pope is to comedians as the saudi royal family is to professional sports
Always glad to hear Rep. Omar speak.
Ben's microphone needs more clarity. It could be an EQ adjustment, replacing a battery, a bad cable, or even needing the screen and filter cleaning as a place to start.
I consider myself left but moderately left. I was surprise to see that Pod Save the World was judged left to very left by a pod review thing. That surprised me and made me feel everything has moved further right. Am I right or misguided?
As an example, I am 77 and lived through Watergater. I don’t think Nixon would have left office. Indeed, he probably be lauded somehow in today’s world.
IMO Left is now a subverted and confusing term. It used to mean "towards communism or socialism" now it (might?) mean "towards humanism". What does it say about the Right that it labels anything that puts human beings first as opposite to it? Nothing good IMO.
It doesn't help that humanists label THEMSELVES as Left.
The term Right used to mean "towards fascism." Now it seems to include "towards conservatism". What does it say about humanists that they labels traditional values as opposite? Apart from anything else I think it means they're stupid.
ramen can be lux
You know Hitler didn't attend Tehran or Yalta when Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt met for their Peace Summit.
There was a very obvious reason for that .
That's true. But Stalin did. He participated on the wrong side of WWII
@@Maja-Danmark…did you just say Stalin was on the wrong side of WWII?
@@Maja-Danmark Stalin was on the side of the Allies, after Hitler invaded Russia, (and the Russian part of half of Poland that Russia claimed in 1939/40 when he did have a pact with Hitler)
Hence, the most vicious battle for Stalingrad between the Nazis/Germans and the Russians, which was the Battle that turned the War and put the Nazis and Hitler on the back foot in losing WWII overall to the Allies thereafter which very much included Stalin, or Uncle Joe, as the West called him while he was an Ally with the West at this time of WWII.
@@shortdrink873 most likely a troll failing to fill the hole in their soul
@@shortdrink873 Stalin had a pact with Hitler, and they both invaded Poland from each side in September 1939
So now the Spanish Inquisition wants to be 'funny ' ?
When you both say you’re for a ceasefire deal “on both sides”, how do you reconcile with the fact that there was a ceasefire in place on Oct 7th? Hamas leadership has vowed to repeat Oct 7th again and again. What are your responses to that? You both do a great job both sidesing this issue, but never truly get into the hard questions.
Open air prison is a ceasefire. Good to know your not progressive
Cool story but over 6000 Palestinians were killed by Israel between 2008 & October 6th.
I bet Tommy is going to get in trouble for that MLB Network sign in the corner.
Yall gotta figure out Ben's mic when he's remote. Great content and surely interesting but it's unlistenable with this much distortion.
Genuinely surprised Harry & Meghan didn't try and overshadow William birthday, father's day and Ascot.
It's getting closer! I REALLY hope you had Jon sign my copy. Also, I will soon be doing texts for the Nebraska Democratic Party.
Why is Tommy orange?
You would not go to war, without securing the air space first.
Any movement on the ground would be easily spotted, targeted and taken out.
Drones show this will great effect, but it is NO substitute for air superiority,.
A no fly zone would be nice, but once again without air superiority, the Ukrainians are being hampered with help.
Politician brags: "Don't worry, voters. This specific batch of lethal aid isn't at the expense of tax payers. This time, we mugged an adversarial nuclear power. Snatched their cheese outta their wallet. Publicly pilfered, on the global stage."
Voters: "That sounds like the type of insult that necessitates retaliation..."
Politician falters: "What do you mean?"
Voters: "DONT antagonize folks who have nukes. FFS."
I wonder why people around the world want to do bad things to peaceful and innocent America😂
5 minutes in and all you have done is talk about yourselves….dang. 5 minutes lost
🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
Welcome to the new Cold War.
Hi!
Lol yeah that’s America. You gotta work for free to get a job anywhere good
Do audio book purchases count towards the best seller list number?
That The View clip of Whoopi and the pope was from months ago.
How much does the Biden campaign pay these two guys??!
Why is Tommy so yellow?
probably the footage just wasn't color graded
I like these guys so much and used to listen to the podcast entranced, but gradually realized they have zero idea what they're talking about.
Ben Rhodes disparaged the PDB in a previous podcast, which I hear is simultaneously the most rewarding and the WORST job in the United States Government because it's so stressful to make, and Tommy talked about the one intelligence "sever" as if he was describing US government interwebs as pneumatic tubes. I lost all confidence that they and their team are competent in research. They're just saying stuff. They don't have the native expertise to talk about international affairs and they don't have the time to research what they need to before vomiting out a bunch of nonsense.
These are the bosses you email detailed, cited, researched work to, and they proceed to not read it and just riff.
Like, the war in Palestine is completely awash in misunderstanding and misinformation and they just read headlines uncritically
I'm a rando on the internet but on multiple occasions I've been like, "oh hey maybe that's a little off." and have found grievous errors in this podcast, mostly about the Middle East, defense, and legal issues
For example, the blockade of northern Yemen has come up many times in context of the Saudi actions. They've talked repeatedly about food insecurity and famine, but never mentioned the UN Inspection program to allow food stuffs into Yemen. Here it is vimye.org/. Oh hey, there's an entire mechanism to get food there. Part of the problem is there's only one major port, it does ~80% of the food trade, and it has no designed capability to handle containers. Here's a Wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Hudaydah. It took 20 seconds longer than expected because I forgot how to spell Hudaydah. Here's where the port is: 14°50'17"N 42°56'09"E. Looks like there's two cranes and only one fricking highway to Sanaa. Maybe there's a more complicated issue at hand.
This is not an ideological stance. I'm not arguing the Saudi regime doesn't suck. Encounter one of their motorists and find out. I'm stating the research and understanding on this podcast is so lazy, it's undermining their core arguments.
They're just saying stuff
Note to Neo Cons in DNC stop getting involved in stupid wars, including proxy wars. Find another productive way to boost US economy and be the democratic world power. Progressive need to stand up and tell DNC Neo Cons that. Tucker Carlson podcast with Glen Greenwald is worth listening to on this. John Mersheimer and Jeffery Sachs have spoken extensively on this also.
Nothing with Tucker is ever worth listening to
@@ryanjohnson6272 I used to think the same way, especially when he was at Fox. But you have to give him credit to standing up to Neo Cons and stupid wars that are against US interests like Ben & Tommy said. I don't agree with all the things he says but you can't make an educated decision unless you listen to the other person's perspective. Something the Obamas also advocate.
Was that before or after Tucker had the guy on his show that said he had sex with Barack Obama in the back of a limousine?
@@ryanjohnson6272 As blinkered as a Maga nut- just saying
Getting involved in stupid wars? Yeah. Why spill your own blood when somebody else is willing to but need help?
Tucker and Mersheimer are full of it. They should go to Ukraine and ask questions - maybe they'll learn something
Israel is a touchy topic.
NeoCons are on the Conservative side.
We have to quit with the “shoveling $60B to Ukraine” nonsense. That money goes into the American economy to build weapons. Sadly, military manufacturing is a vital American jobs program.
The mere use of the words money and funds is damaging, too
Those who are smart and interested know. Those who are not, are the ones who need to be told the truth in a concise manner
@@Maja-Danmark What is your truth?
If we defund the US weapons procurement policies and, thereby, the weapons manufacturing industry, where do those tens of thousands of workers find jobs? Walmart is laying off.
@@robertbritt6134 The truth is the truth
Unfortunately, SoMe, disinformation, the lack of critical thinking and poor messaging from honest politicians all contribute to undermining the facts
Another necessary change in American economics
@@rubenmendez2953 I agree completely. Not going to happen