I just replaced mine along with the thermostat housing. The dealer wanted $3600 to replace both. Crooks, they wanted to charger double labor and they're both right next to each other. When I did it myself I discovered that only the oil filter housing was broken not the thermostat housing.
They really can be crooks. The way that's priced, you'd think they were working on a Bugatti. Pretty sure this is the last VW I'll own for a loong while. Glad you got it done though!!!
That's why I'm going to get rid of my 2014 passat. They are a pain to work on it. I'll go back to my toyota or honda. I can work it much easier. My passat has 64,400 miles, it looks just exactly like the one you are working on it even the color SEL. But It is time to let it go
Jeez.. sorry you went through that! Well, if it happens again in the future I sure hope this comes in handy. What’s messed up is, that’s a common defect enough that it should be warrantee but they squeaked out of it and know they can get extra $$$
Thank you! Here's the reader info: ( Hex-V2 Dual-K & CAN USB Interface for VCDS ) Going to be honest here and say that was the best 200 dollars I ever spent on this car. Saved a fortune doing the transmission maintenance and figured out a bunch of other cool stuff. Hope this helps!
Betcha I spent way less. 😁 Bottom line, not all of us have mechanics we can brag about. We have to depend on ourselves to get things done right the first time. If it takes a little longer and a little more elbow grease, then so be it.
I had the same sediment in mine. I can assure you it is not stop leak, it is degradation of VW G13 coolant. Some have postulated it is glycerin and silica cooking with high EGR temps and causing sediment. How do I know it is not Stop leak? Because I had my car since 10 miles on odometer. Nobody touched it but me and the dealer. And the only coolant that was used was G13. I posted about this on TDI Club forum. Switched to G12++ coolant without glycerin (Zerex) but contemplating going with older G12 without silicates
Unfortunately, I did have it tested at a laboratory and it came back positive for Bars Stop Leak... I'm putting together a video about it where I even show the data. If you find any more of it in your system it might not be a terrible idea to have it tested. I have seen the TSB that shows the coolant can react to the metals inside the heater core and create deposits but the study in this case shows it was indeed a positive match to that product. I'm pretty sure cellulose and curcumin don't naturally occur in coolants lol.
Just noticed mine was leaking today what brand of filter housing did you end up getting? Also looking for a scan tool for my Passat what ones would you recommend?
Hi there! I ended up getting a "URO Parts Oil Filter Components 03L115389C" for $118.99 from summit racing and so far it seems to have done quite well! I saw some negative reviews about it but my thinking is: How bad can it truly be if the $300 OEM version failed after 70k miles?... Actually, sooner since I found out the dealer used stopleak in it. I seriously recommend getting a HEX-V2 tool by Ross-Tech. They are a little spendy but worth their weight in gold. There are some good instructions that a few other channels have (like saving all of the module settings...etc) You can get by with a regular scan tool though for deleting codes but that's nowhere near the capabilities of the Ross-Tech. Hope this helps!!
@@bradcole6133 Yeah the kind of gasket it has is the O-Ring style gasket that seats in the part itself, not the standard paper gasket we all know and love lol.
Literally just got a quote yesterday to fix the oil filter housing at three county VW in New Jersey… $1,800 my guy…. Going to order both parts off FCP Euro for $250 total. Solid video
Woaaah, yeah that's way overkill. The stealership quoted me like 1500 but that didn't include tax lol. I'm going to have to save that FCP Euro for future reference! Thanks!!!
You know, it's kind of a pain with all the hoses but worth the fix, still running even now! Couple hundred bucks in some parts and fluids vs 1500+ for the dealer? Kind of a no brainer for me! Thanks for watchin'!
So my car may have a little less than a year left on its warranty I think I bought it used. I’m thinking of just forgoing the dealer and doing it myself. I Got a egr performance code and I have very little heat . Might just swap the heater core and the filter housing and do a good flush tackle some of the common issues. over all I really like the car . And as big of a pain this is that my 300k mile Toyota hasn’t ever had t his kinda of issue the people willing to share this kind of repair info makes owning a VW way less of a big deal especially if your a handy foyer 😊
Cool!!! Yeah I've just had nothing but bad news when it came to the dealership turning wrenches on this thing. I am here to tell you, as of this moment I still drive this car around in this heat with no issues after I decided to fix the problems presented (funny how that works eh?). Fortunately, these aren't crazy complicated. The parts are a tad spendy, but every part replaced has paid for itself almost twice over already. I'm not sure if you have the service manual and all the other literature but it is definitely worth getting if you plan on keeping your TDI reliable. (When I bought it on "erWIN" which is VW's site, I paid roughly 30 dollars for it, best 30 bucks I ever spent) Thanks for watching and the awesome comment!!
Yeah looking at the online manual and printing what I need. Maybe an aultel scanner or vcds I’ve gotten by without on all my older vws but this one is a bit more modern 😂. Anyway thanks for the content.
Thats the famous ckra tdi ! I bet that heater core is clogged. The egr cooler frys the coolant on this engine. Its best if allowed in your state to delete and tune the car. And the coolant sludge will go away.
For sure!! Changed out the coolant with some different pentosin stuff.. BUT!! I got the lab tests back and the contents showed to be a high match with stop leak. I’ve been meaning to make a follow up to this video. Tell you what though, as soon as it gives me another cooling system problem that bad boy is coming off lol 😂
Thanks! I had to get the "ERWIN" subscription for like.. 24 hours and download the factory service manual from VW. It was like.. 30 bucks and you get access to all of the factory information about VW products. Here's the link, you have to follow their instructions closely because it's a little awkward to get to. erwin.vw.com/erwin/showSearch.do
@@aloalo7540 Lol.. no problem... next time ask that question instead of where I got them. 😂 Here you go! From the manual: Step1. In a diagonal sequence, to 14nm Step2. In a diagonal sequence, turn an additional 90 degrees.
@@TheFenderman Stop leak? Did you use any Stop Leak? Actually, stop leaks contain similar products which are found in antifreeze too. In any case, this gunk is very common on Passats in N.A. market. Problem is massive. Switching to G12++ is never a bad idea
@@hid3nax No... I didn't use any stop leak. Not anyone with brain cells would use stop leak.The lab report shows that and I'll gladly show it on a different video. I'm still cleaning that trash out to this day, and why I had it sent to a lab. It should actually be illegal to manufacture or sell in my opinion.
@@TheFenderman Well, if you didn't use stop leak then it looks very typical/identical to what other Passats NMS experience with the very same nasty gunk inside cooling system. Good luck fighting with that, hell knows what chemistry will be able to dissolve this without causing iron and aluminium corrosion or degrading plastics. As for coolant, I'd strongly recommend switching to G12++ if you still haven't but use only good brands. E.g. VW OEM genuine, Pentosin or HEPU
"Everyone in the German Army has heard of...Hugo Stiglitz" hahaha This is a CRKA. This is the Turbo Diesel version of the VW Passat and that square piece of aluminum is the "Charge Cooler" which supposedly helps to cool the air coming from the turbo into the intake. Yet it has rad fins in it that circulate hot coolant...but that's besides the point lol. Yeah it's just a teeny tiny intercooler.
@@TheFenderman didn't you make a mistake? crka code is 1.6 tdi in Europe, engine generation EA288. what you are fixing looks like an EA189, the previous generation of engines
@@Hug0_Stiglitz Hmm... Let's see. The Paperwork shows CRKA, The VCDS code reader shows CRKA, ERWIN service data center shows CRKA via the VIN.... If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck....must be a dog right?
I'm sorry to hear that, it definitely sounds like it's either this or the water pump. I think it's not particularly likely it's the EGR cooler but there's always a possibility. I would recommend lifting it up (Safely) and pouring regular water in the reservoir to see where the coolant is going. If it's coming from the front, chances are it's this or the thermostat. If it's coming from the crank pulley, chances are it's the Water Pump. Let me know what you find out!
@@w140fan Oof. Well I JUST finished doing that exact same repair and will be posting the video either today or tomorrow. That is likely a water pump replacement, which isn't TERRIBLY difficult to do. I managed to finish it in two days (probably could have been one if I didn't have to film). I got my parts from Diesel Geek for 300 bucks. So far everything works great! No leaks, no squeaks.
@@DJgoon12 Hey, my apologies if that was insulting, not my goal to do that. As you can imagine, by the time folks find my content they're elbow deep in a fecal situation and I get a lot of mixed comments, everything from bragadocious to name calling. To answer your question I have had on the job training and the good ol' college try when it comes to stuff I may not know. Way I see it, it's already broken, a couple of hours and a manual might fix it. Got more time than money so I just do it myself! PS: Glad to see a fellow DIY'er out there, the "get a new one" way of life is just not something I can follow.
Yeah same, I just wouldn't be surprised if the scenario I mentioned would have been the case lol. But hey I appreciate that, I'm glad it was useful! Hope to see you around in more!!... (Well...hopefully these are the last VW repair videos for a while haha)
I just replaced mine along with the thermostat housing. The dealer wanted $3600 to replace both. Crooks, they wanted to charger double labor and they're both right next to each other. When I did it myself I discovered that only the oil filter housing was broken not the thermostat housing.
They really can be crooks. The way that's priced, you'd think they were working on a Bugatti. Pretty sure this is the last VW I'll own for a loong while. Glad you got it done though!!!
That's why I'm going to get rid of my 2014 passat. They are a pain to work on it. I'll go back to my toyota or honda. I can work it much easier. My passat has 64,400 miles, it looks just exactly like the one you are working on it even the color SEL. But It is time to let it go
Ahh yeah... Sorry to hear that, yeah these things can be really great when they do run but they're definitely problem children.
I paid 1900$ for the job, i wish i saw your video last year when happened, same model, same year
Jeez.. sorry you went through that! Well, if it happens again in the future I sure hope this comes in handy.
What’s messed up is, that’s a common defect enough that it should be warrantee but they squeaked out of it and know they can get extra $$$
What vagcom reader are you using for your TDI?
Interesting video!
Thank you! Here's the reader info: ( Hex-V2 Dual-K & CAN USB Interface for VCDS ) Going to be honest here and say that was the best 200 dollars I ever spent on this car. Saved a fortune doing the transmission maintenance and figured out a bunch of other cool stuff. Hope this helps!
that's way too much taking parts away. my mechanic did the same job so easily and fast
Betcha I spent way less. 😁
Bottom line, not all of us have mechanics we can brag about. We have to depend on ourselves to get things done right the first time. If it takes a little longer and a little more elbow grease, then so be it.
@@TheFenderman yes. I totally agree with you. nice job though.
@@AISHAREVS2024 Thank you! And thanks for watching! 😎
I had the same sediment in mine. I can assure you it is not stop leak, it is degradation of VW G13 coolant. Some have postulated it is glycerin and silica cooking with high EGR temps and causing sediment. How do I know it is not Stop leak? Because I had my car since 10 miles on odometer. Nobody touched it but me and the dealer. And the only coolant that was used was G13. I posted about this on TDI Club forum. Switched to G12++ coolant without glycerin (Zerex) but contemplating going with older G12 without silicates
Unfortunately, I did have it tested at a laboratory and it came back positive for Bars Stop Leak... I'm putting together a video about it where I even show the data. If you find any more of it in your system it might not be a terrible idea to have it tested. I have seen the TSB that shows the coolant can react to the metals inside the heater core and create deposits but the study in this case shows it was indeed a positive match to that product. I'm pretty sure cellulose and curcumin don't naturally occur in coolants lol.
@Eugene
What coolant did you end up going with. I have my car currently stripped down!
I am still on Zerex, which is G12++. So far, still pink. I am waiting another year to see.
A yank that uses newton-metres. Outstanding!
Did you get your result back on the sawdust stuff?
I did, came to be that it was indeed Radiator Stop Leak.
@@TheFenderman we had similar problems with our car. It had stop leak in it as well.
@@MattLikesGaming Funny how that works out. These things run great without that in them but... laziness and dishonesty prevails!
Just noticed mine was leaking today what brand of filter housing did you end up getting? Also looking for a scan tool for my Passat what ones would you recommend?
Hi there!
I ended up getting a "URO Parts Oil Filter Components 03L115389C" for $118.99 from summit racing and so far it seems to have done quite well! I saw some negative reviews about it but my thinking is: How bad can it truly be if the $300 OEM version failed after 70k miles?... Actually, sooner since I found out the dealer used stopleak in it.
I seriously recommend getting a HEX-V2 tool by Ross-Tech. They are a little spendy but worth their weight in gold. There are some good instructions that a few other channels have (like saving all of the module settings...etc)
You can get by with a regular scan tool though for deleting codes but that's nowhere near the capabilities of the Ross-Tech.
Hope this helps!!
@@TheFenderman Same thoughts on the OEM housing. Thanks for the help!
@@bradcole6133 No problem! Best of luck to ya!
Does the 03L115389c from summit come with a gasket?
@@bradcole6133 Yeah the kind of gasket it has is the O-Ring style gasket that seats in the part itself, not the standard paper gasket we all know and love lol.
Literally just got a quote yesterday to fix the oil filter housing at three county VW in New Jersey… $1,800 my guy…. Going to order both parts off FCP Euro for $250 total. Solid video
Woaaah, yeah that's way overkill. The stealership quoted me like 1500 but that didn't include tax lol. I'm going to have to save that FCP Euro for future reference! Thanks!!!
I need this same exact thing done to my vw bro wow !
You know, it's kind of a pain with all the hoses but worth the fix, still running even now! Couple hundred bucks in some parts and fluids vs 1500+ for the dealer? Kind of a no brainer for me! Thanks for watchin'!
Im there as well. I might do a radiator swap at the same time
So my car may have a little less than a year left on its warranty I think I bought it used. I’m thinking of just forgoing the dealer and doing it myself. I Got a egr performance code and I have very little heat . Might just swap the heater core and the filter housing and do a good flush tackle some of the common issues. over all I really like the car . And as big of a pain this is that my 300k mile Toyota hasn’t ever had t his kinda of issue the people willing to share this kind of repair info makes owning a VW way less of a big deal especially if your a handy foyer 😊
Cool!!! Yeah I've just had nothing but bad news when it came to the dealership turning wrenches on this thing. I am here to tell you, as of this moment I still drive this car around in this heat with no issues after I decided to fix the problems presented (funny how that works eh?). Fortunately, these aren't crazy complicated. The parts are a tad spendy, but every part replaced has paid for itself almost twice over already.
I'm not sure if you have the service manual and all the other literature but it is definitely worth getting if you plan on keeping your TDI reliable. (When I bought it on "erWIN" which is VW's site, I paid roughly 30 dollars for it, best 30 bucks I ever spent)
Thanks for watching and the awesome comment!!
Yeah looking at the online manual and printing what I need. Maybe an aultel scanner or vcds I’ve gotten by without on all my older vws but this one is a bit more modern 😂. Anyway thanks for the content.
Thats the famous ckra tdi !
I bet that heater core is clogged. The egr cooler frys the coolant on this engine. Its best if allowed in your state to delete and tune the car. And the coolant sludge will go away.
For sure!! Changed out the coolant with some different pentosin stuff.. BUT!! I got the lab tests back and the contents showed to be a high match with stop leak. I’ve been meaning to make a follow up to this video. Tell you what though, as soon as it gives me another cooling system problem that bad boy is coming off lol 😂
It's not sludgy coolant but you're definitely not wrong about it being in the Heater Core now...
Great job you done there. Where did you find the right torques
Thanks! I had to get the "ERWIN" subscription for like.. 24 hours and download the factory service manual from VW. It was like.. 30 bucks and you get access to all of the factory information about VW products.
Here's the link, you have to follow their instructions closely because it's a little awkward to get to.
erwin.vw.com/erwin/showSearch.do
@@TheFenderman Thank you for your answer but I was just expecting just a torque number for the oil filter housing. that's it....
@@aloalo7540 Lol.. no problem... next time ask that question instead of where I got them. 😂
Here you go!
From the manual:
Step1. In a diagonal sequence, to 14nm
Step2. In a diagonal sequence, turn an additional 90 degrees.
@@TheFenderman thank you
@@TheFenderman LoL, I was curious where you'd gotten them too, because I'm doing the same job on a VW 2.5
That gunk you found in the coolant passages is what actually clogs heater cores. Use G12++ coolant instead of crappy G13
I certainly wish it was, actual lab results came back to it being a 66% match to Bars StopLeak.
@@TheFenderman Stop leak? Did you use any Stop Leak? Actually, stop leaks contain similar products which are found in antifreeze too. In any case, this gunk is very common on Passats in N.A. market. Problem is massive. Switching to G12++ is never a bad idea
@@hid3nax No... I didn't use any stop leak. Not anyone with brain cells would use stop leak.The lab report shows that and I'll gladly show it on a different video. I'm still cleaning that trash out to this day, and why I had it sent to a lab. It should actually be illegal to manufacture or sell in my opinion.
@@TheFenderman Well, if you didn't use stop leak then it looks very typical/identical to what other Passats NMS experience with the very same nasty gunk inside cooling system. Good luck fighting with that, hell knows what chemistry will be able to dissolve this without causing iron and aluminium corrosion or degrading plastics. As for coolant, I'd strongly recommend switching to G12++ if you still haven't but use only good brands. E.g. VW OEM genuine, Pentosin or HEPU
What size 12 point is that?
I THINK it was an M8. I got a set of those bits from O'reilly's PN: W1395 Product name: Performance Tool Triple Square Bit Set METRIC
Hello men, engine code???? I have never seen an engine with such an intake. (the square thing)
"Everyone in the German Army has heard of...Hugo Stiglitz" hahaha
This is a CRKA. This is the Turbo Diesel version of the VW Passat and that square piece of aluminum is the "Charge Cooler" which supposedly helps to cool the air coming from the turbo into the intake. Yet it has rad fins in it that circulate hot coolant...but that's besides the point lol. Yeah it's just a teeny tiny intercooler.
@@TheFenderman didn't you make a mistake? crka code is 1.6 tdi in Europe, engine generation EA288.
what you are fixing looks like an EA189, the previous generation of engines
@@Hug0_Stiglitz Hmm... Let's see. The Paperwork shows CRKA, The VCDS code reader shows CRKA, ERWIN service data center shows CRKA via the VIN.... If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck....must be a dog right?
What were the symptoms? Was it showing transmission overheating?
No, just piss poor fuel economy, plugging up heater core after heater core and overheating.
My 14’ is losing coolant fast and running hot with the warning light do you think this is the culprit
I'm sorry to hear that, it definitely sounds like it's either this or the water pump. I think it's not particularly likely it's the EGR cooler but there's always a possibility. I would recommend lifting it up (Safely) and pouring regular water in the reservoir to see where the coolant is going. If it's coming from the front, chances are it's this or the thermostat. If it's coming from the crank pulley, chances are it's the Water Pump.
Let me know what you find out!
@@TheFenderman I was just looking under it, it is coming from the crank area
@@w140fan Oof. Well I JUST finished doing that exact same repair and will be posting the video either today or tomorrow. That is likely a water pump replacement, which isn't TERRIBLY difficult to do. I managed to finish it in two days (probably could have been one if I didn't have to film). I got my parts from Diesel Geek for 300 bucks. So far everything works great! No leaks, no squeaks.
Do you have any auto certifications or formal training?
Hmm...that sounds like a question a dealership would ask...🧐
@@TheFenderman no I'm just wondering how you learned all this. I'm a DIY guy, no formal education.
@@DJgoon12 Hey, my apologies if that was insulting, not my goal to do that. As you can imagine, by the time folks find my content they're elbow deep in a fecal situation and I get a lot of mixed comments, everything from bragadocious to name calling.
To answer your question I have had on the job training and the good ol' college try when it comes to stuff I may not know. Way I see it, it's already broken, a couple of hours and a manual might fix it. Got more time than money so I just do it myself!
PS: Glad to see a fellow DIY'er out there, the "get a new one" way of life is just not something I can follow.
@@TheFenderman you're good man. I'm not offended easily.
And right on, this was a great video with good info.
Yeah same, I just wouldn't be surprised if the scenario I mentioned would have been the case lol. But hey I appreciate that, I'm glad it was useful! Hope to see you around in more!!... (Well...hopefully these are the last VW repair videos for a while haha)