The Turm 3 Is VERY Balanced
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- Опубликовано: 18 июл 2023
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The German Turm 3 is a premium tank at a battle rating of 8.0 in realistic. Compared to other vehicles in that range, it is ridiculously powerful, carrying a 30mm autocannon and a fully stabilized 105mm with a very fast reload rate.
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The Turm 3 Is VERY Balanced 
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It’s so adorbs
It's such a cute plushie
This tank looks like it came straight out of Sprocket, just like the French AMX tanks lmao
Day 35 of asking too play the BT-42
@@GrafXohoo I support you 💪😎
Be honest, you'd be fine with calling this a 30mm auto cannon with a 105 coaxial.
lazor cannon + big pew
Wait a minute… 🤨
Okay BMP-3
I really enjoy it when he uses random halo CE sounds. When he kills something.
And now a German vehicle with 20mm and à recoilless gun is announced for Battlepass
Everybody gangsta till the German tank starts shooting 30mm heat
the 30mm does more damage than the 105mm HEAT
it's not 30mm HEAT it's SAPHE
@@Spookstonfr
And 105mm SAP-I
I got to be the 200 th like 😎
I knew this thing would be OP from the beginning, and was amazed by how little negative attention it got from the community. It felt like everyone just took one look at the armor and internal modules and just said “Yep, business as usual”
i get pissed at it because it is the only tank That has ever killed me the most in a helicopter
@twerkingbollocks6661 Genuinely interested in hearing any other op premiums, apart from the 251
if turm 3 goes to 8.3 then the obj 906 should be 8.0
@twerkingbollocks6661 >looks at amount of OP USSR premiums
>germany finally gets something competitive
>que whiners crying
Even then, USSR has fucking 906 at 7.7 in normal tech tree, so zip it the fuck up.
@twerkingbollocks6661What other op German premiums could you be talking about?
I think the people deserve a "Spookston attempts to fly CAS" video. (Attempt #3)
very soon
CAS is easy lol. Spawn in the air, look for a moving blob or some gunfire. Dive towards blob. Press spacebar when the ground looks scary. Target Destroyed. Dopamine Activated.
@@justmarc2015yea but Spookston has higher standards for dopamine release than the average WT jockey
@@Spookston i dont know if you've ever done it recently. but can you do a review on the obj120.
@@univrzsal There is already 120 video, It's called ''soviet railgun tank'' or something like that...
Should I play this again but only using the autocannon
Yes
would be fun to see
100% 😂
Yes please :)
Just use the falcon then
its actually insane that the mars 15 is the same battle rating as the turm
Or the AMX-13-HOT
Or the T95E1
The whole 7.7-8.7 battle rating is crazy compressed.
Or the 8.0 Striker and even that new premium 8.0 Vickers that is worse in every way
The 30 B2 is somehow a higher BR.
The funny thing about the Stabilizer is that it's not implemented properly. It's a full 3 dimensional stabilizer, hence why the turret looks so wierd. Generally the turret will always be level while the hull moves under it. Even if at an angle like a hillside. Gaijin just didn't implement that function of the TURM
Balancing, probably. Otherwise it'd be Marder syndrome all over again
@@ZombieRush22579puma?
I heard they couldn't do 3-axis STAB because of the engine.
@@ZombieRush22579I mean it shouldn’t really affect balance issues
According to gaijin, the mars 15 is equivalent to the turm III. Very balanced game.
The mars 15 is worse than everything in game so there’s no way to balance it. Could put it at 1.0 and it’d still die.
According to gaijin the ebr 51, (literally a worse Chaffee), is fine at 5.3 France getting fucked over and over again
Maybe I'm a little masochist, but I liked the Mars15, I got awsome games with it, of course, that dosen't mean it's equal to the turmIII, TurmIII deserves at least a br change but I didnt find the Mars15 that bad
Especially after the recent sale on the Gaijin store for this vehicle's pack, these things are running rampant everywhere throughout 7.0 to 9.0, they're a real menace. Thank you for the lovely video as always, your work keeps me going
To be fair, its gotten quite calm now, while right during the sale you had teams of like 6-8 or more Turms, whilst now its 2-4 on the team... atleast for me
Nah, the fact that this was peoples' only German vehicle in the BR range meant that they would leave after their first death and the other team would have an easy dub.
@@jordanlaquey5325only if you manage to kill it before it kills you.
@@onemid1978 I've never had problem fighting them because I play Sweden and don't have a skill issue.
@@jordanlaquey5325 well I play 7.7 america and most of my deaths are to trum iii, I suppose we can call it a skill issue, when he can shot me twice before my cannon stabilize and don't have to aim at all, I guess that may be a problem with 7.7 overall
Spookston you should play the russian traktor tank destroyer, the Zis-30, its so hilarious to play with its wacky suspension and to use in an uptier
woah thats a lot of likes
the zis-30 is one of my favorite tanks, its so fun and 145mm of pen at 2.3
It's my buddy's go-to God Mode machine. Since I'm a US main, I have the M3 GMC instead
Click button, receive lions. I love that goofy tank. Its lovely velocity also makes air targets a breeze.
The three vehicles that I really hate going to 7.7; Turm III, T-55AM1, and the T-69. The vast majority of deaths for me besides CAS are these three vehicles tbh.
And I Kill all 3 Without issue, and own all 3.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 congrats. truly a humble soul here.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559you leave a lot of comments about how great you are, how about some gameplay to back it up?
salty bois, just bad theres bigger issues in WT than these vehicles. the tree needs expanding another BR to decompress.
@@jackbruno4748 no need to be humble here who the fuck you think I am royalty?
3:30
In the Rhino's defense, his driver is in a different timezone compared to the rest of the crew.
Thanks, bossman, I have descended into the comment section to make sure someone mentions it
Driver, Engine with fuel tanks and turret crew are well separated, easily protecting main crew compartment from explosive shells upon hull penetration and severely slowing down fire damage
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7:15 - apparently a recent patch made HEAT able to go through some light shrubbery. It triggers an explosion client side but the shell itself keeps flying and does regular damage on target.
haha he said shrubbery
8.0 matches are hell.
Every game I get matched up with a team filled with TURM 3 teammates who rush and leave after one death. It's impossible to play at that BR.
You should play the Rooikat 105. Has no armour but is a fast wheelie boi with access to DM33 darts.
id rather him play Rooikat MTTD, much less commonly played but i like it more
@@r.ndomperson Either is fine tbh, I just wanted someone to play a Rooikat in the updated meta.
i've just reached stabilizer territory with the t-55a, i literally celebrate audibly when im not facing the turm 3
Instead i cry in french with 8,3 no premium and no stab. What's an error to main this nation
@@touhousimp5242 After finishing germany i wanted to try France...got to 6.7 and just left for USSR and Britain
@@touhousimp5242 I mean, we get autoloaders at 7.7, which can really be abused.
With the turm I notice the autocannon blocks a ton of shots too, making that side of the turret way more awkward
was binging spookston content just to refresh his page and see a new upload, what luck! Just a personal suggustion, I love your low br videos and would encourage you to do more, I learn alot from your videos as a casual player but most of the observations you offer apply to the higher br vehicles, specifically getting to watch an experienced player breakdown where certain tanks are vulnerable is incredibly helpful and would just love to see more of that on the from the lower end of the game
"He was completely silent until he was on top of me."
-Spookston 2023
Took the turn 3 up to 11.3, managed to overpressure two T72 turms with the 30mm
Cancer vs cancer
@@troglodyte280turms is lit mid lol
@@Cheesycat0 turms is only limited by the idiocy of the player. It is a fully stabilized apds/heat slinger that can see 7.0
6:43
I will always love your little edits like this
It’s sweet, simple, but man do I love it
Big boom + sound effect = funny
Don't forget the Halo elite scream 😂
I love taking out the Type 87 RCV and just farming Turm 3's for XP, it is truly a great time.
Sturer Emil: germany makes most depressing td, asked to leave conflict.
it's a top tier video , like each time ... like each time a tank explode, i get surprise like the crew member in each tank. i'm fully immersive ( if the word is correct) in the game lol and thank for posting video top quality like these too. ( sorry if you dont understand my comment here, i dont get the time to make it well)
I've been noticing that with Heat lately as well. Detonates on bush but then still kills whatever is behind.
On a side note, I find the APDS to be the better ammo, but I also haven't used the Heat in a long time.
Yeah, I've gotten a surprising number of critical hits on helis in my pt76 with this secret.
If I don't remember completely wrong there was a change log mention somewhere about the HEAT. Basically just that it no longer actually detonate on the tiniest bush or branch, even though you get the hit camera(so that is basically a bug or just laziness).
I cannot stress how much I have been waiting for a spookston turm3 vid
Wonderful quality as always
I think the reasons this thing feels so good to use are that the responsiveness and mobility are amazing, as well as the fact that you never feel like you aren’t prepared for a situation because of the auto loader plus a 30mm that can deal with any light vehicle
remember, mobility isnt a balancing factor apparently, otherwise the leopard 1 would go back to being balanced
@@kevincho1187 I didn’t say that was
@@dakotahondalock5621 twas a joke about gaijim
Aha lol
@@kevincho1187 wait did gaijin actually say that? I fully believe you cause it explains so much
I think you would like the PT-16/T-14 mod. the funny Leo 2 with a 4 second reload and surprisingly good armor at 9.7.
my question as a german main is how does literally my entire team have the most op tank in the game for its br yet we still lose basically everytime
I just watched the older vid u had on this. now I wanna play it
Turm III, MBT-70... that was a weird era of over the top technological overreach. At least we got T-64 and Strv103 from it... and their maintenance history that had proven why slower and steadier is sometimes better. Reminds me of a late Cold War era of AN94/G11 for small arms that we only now get back into with same ideas making several loops and now coming back up again.
Play the very outdated otomatic its stock grind is absolutely horrendous and apparently there is a radar bug rn
Ive been shooting through bushes lately with heat and no issue spookston
Spookston uploading on my birthday? Now this is epic
I regularly up tier this to around 9.7 and it does just ok, not very spectacular, but not useless either. If you compared it to the Leo 2K, you basically trade some of the firepower on the main gun, and put it on the 30mm coax. The 30mm and the 20mm of the Leo 2K have similar pen, but the HE filler in the 30mm is mental and if you can pen something it will likely be killed instantly, opposed to the APCR of the 20mm
EDIT: I also hate how when you try to spray something with the 30mm, like a cannon barrel, you're basically blind firing because the muzzle flash of the auto cannon is visible when using sniper mode of the main gun
No no you cant say this, I tried to and got shafted in the comments, You will be attacked if you dont think its OP lol.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 at it's current BR, sure. But around 9.7 it doesn't really have a major advantage over any other mbts
@@necrodamis1771 Thing is it can be shot away by a 1.0 Reserve vehicle. Its not small neither, if folks kept their eyes open they wouldnt suffer as much.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 true, but also at high tiers and to a lesser degree low tiers, armor doesn't matter all that much; if you don't get hit you don't need armor.
But yes better player awareness would certainly help, it's a shame that things like a buggy sound engine damper that (plus most players aren't as aware as they think they are, I know I'm half blind without thermals or good optics at least)
I caved and bought this thing during the last sale. Holy moly it's fun blasting everything with the 30mm, I never have to worry about heli rushes.
Loving the new mic sounds great
7:58 this happens in 3rd person. Basically, your gun is adjusting for parallax between the barrel and your reticule. Happens all the time, but is far more noticeable in oscillating turrets.
*Sad French Mains Noises*
@3:30 it has a very long wheel base and most of the crew is at the back in the turret, so... probably that is why
You should cover the Bkan 1C again using the proxy rounds. Air-bursting is OP.
Spookston, while watching you play tanks is really enjoyable, between the memes and commentary, I do miss the "if x tank was historically accurate" series.
4:59 "He was completely silent until he was on top of me." XD
0:18 Busted Balls
As a Swedish main at 7.7 BR, the Turm is my greatest enemy. Fast, with a great reload and a 30mm autocannon. Feels rough going against this thing in an IKV 91
dude i am in fucking awe of your ability to just SEE, like you'll see like 5 pixels change on the furthest left side of the screen and you immediately hone in on it and know the range already. Your perception in the game is insane. Cudos man keep up the great content!
You gotta play the JaPz. K A2, it gets APFSDS, a 4 second reload, a laser range finder, scouting, a scout drone and all that at 8.3! The only thing I'm missing is a stabilizer and a gun on top to fight off planes but for 8.3 it has a lot which makes it undertiered for 8.3, although you get mostly uptiers so that's balanced. And if armor isn't important for your play style, this is THE vehicle for you.
Yeah the Turm is kinda busted at the moment.
Also (day 2 asking) you should try the Japanese STA1/2/3/Type 61 (they're all kinda the same), decent mobility, good gun and great sight magnification makes them pretty fun to play.
day 108 of asking spookston to play the american M60A3 TTS. Hopefully I’ll see the video about this vehicle soon
Please let my suffering end
God dammit the heli rushing meme made me spit all over my monitor, same spookston
3:45 spookston expecting the G6 to overpressure when hitting the driver with heat
meanwhile im expecting the pt-76/object-906/bmp to overpressure when i hit it with heat but forget im using a french AMX-30 and it only injures the commander
Nice spookston
I just bought Turm III , looked it up and saw this . I was happy
The "Wuuuuuuaaaaaaaa!" death sound has always made me giggle. lol
CE is a true masterpiece.
They did change recently HEAT rounds detonating on bushed IIRC. You still see a visual bug of it explosion playing but the shell isnt destroyed
Looks pretty fun. The SK-105/JaPz.K A2 is too (Day 64).
Hey Spunk, day 4. I think you should play the Somua and or TO90. They’re two of my most favorite tanks in the game and it’s be nice to see you play them. Otherwise as usual awesome video.
more jerma reference this time omg, that scream from the jumpscare mansion is one of my fave moment
Definitely should do another turm 3 vid
When i was grinding 7.7 - 8.3 sweden, these things genuinely put the fear of god into me, if you know one is coming you can counter it, but if it catches you off guard or get a flank say goodbye to half of your team.
but thats what you have to do? Flank? Its not a brawler.
@@julmdamaslefttoe3559 i never implied it was a brawler, what i had specifically meant was that if it gets a really good flank it can do insane damage, ive had a game where 2 turms players wiped 70% of an enemy team on hurtgen because they pushed aggressively into the south side flank.
@@HANGING_SILVERnever said you implied its a brawler, I was just stating Its the only way to play successfully. Its a niche vehicle. and many seem to not know how to deal with them. you do by the guess of knowing how its played.
Love it that you made a remake after the summer sale where it was 50 % off and every macht you had 3-8 Turm 3 in your team @ 8.0 Germany
My favorite tank in the game T-55A most of my deaths come from light vehicles with atgm, 2nd is planes (bomb or rocket) and third is Turm 3, yeah its OP
''He was completely silent, until he was on top of me'' ..... Sounds like a case for Law & Order SVU ....lol
It's a surreal thing to see a RUclipsr playing on the maps and BR's that I was playing just a few days ago.
Also i would probably play the APDS with this. As a 105mm the APDS is actually pretty nice. I understand that lower caliber APDS can be a little bit lacking.
have no fear Spookston here!
You should try the m4a3(105) it has pretty good pen with a heat shell and good armor if you angle it.
3:45ish - maybe I underestimate how much damage HEAT *should* do but in fairness that thing is a giant truck. A HEAT jet/shrapnel through the driver compartment has a long way to go to damage anything else in it. Seems like a reasonable amount of damage given the shot placement in that circumstance!
I highly reccomend you play the M47 105/55 OTO, it's the italian version of the M47 but it's the only version with a 105mm canon instead of the normal 90mm. and keeps the same 7.3 br as the other versions
I don't even play WT but I could listen to you read a cookbook. 👍
I hear that they changed HE and Heat so they kinda client side detonate for you but still hit the target, happened a couple times in my KV2
I love that the ammo for the auto cannot is just ducktaped to the outside of the tank cause it's so huge.
You shold play the Chieftain Mk.3, it's a bit of an underdog at its BR since most things around it are about 10 years more advanced and have APFSDS but it can be pretty good when played right.
3:38 that driver engine "spaced armor" saved that man xD
I've also noticed that HEAT will detonate on objects but still travel to the target anyways. I hit a pole like 100m in front of me yesterday and it still killed a guy like 300m away.
Some objects can be passed through by HEAT now, though the impact effect LOOKS like it got fused by that object. Your shell really did just pass through and didn't fuse, but the game only has the one effect for HEAT impacts (the detonation like it got fused).
4:45 Spookston discovers 1st law of motion and how aiming directly at a target while driving at an angle to it at high speed can result in just scraping its side. :P
The whole HEAT/HE detonates but still hits has been happening for awhile, not sure if it's desync or w/e. I have experienced it multiple times with the Type 75 SPH.
the auto cannon burst fire sounds like someone is putting down a sick drum beat
When I play this thing with my friend in the t54e1 we get so many full down tiers
Spookston have you played the Kpz 70 eould love to see video on it, i feel like it would be fun to play
You should play the AMX-50 Foch, it doesn’t get uptierd a lot surprisingly for a 7.3 French vehicle
Amazing video as always
I think you should give the Alecto 1 a whirl
Its basicly the T55E1s crappyer british cousin at 1.7
it's the same 30mm autocannon that Falcon is armed with, though there is only one and it's without the APDS belt on Turm III, but I think the 105mm with a 5 second reload and a massive first-stage ammo rack for the autoloader makes up for it, and Falcon is at the same battle rating as Turm III.
Falcon is an SPAA with apds, and is not a driving ammo rack, i don't see your point
Would love to see a video on the Semovente M43 75/46
nooo, I missed Spookston in the comments, dang
Still nice to see another video from ya Spook
i just played 21 games in the vrcc and all of them were 10.0 or 10.3 uptiers, nice man veery nice
Have you ever thought of playing Naval? It would be some good content! Keep up with the awesome videos!
Would really like to see a vid on the premium merkava or ztz96A
This is perfect timing. I’ve been seeing an absurd amount of these things recently and it’s been making U.S. 7.3/7.7 an utter nightmare. I can’t help but feel that BR decompression would help with a lot of these undertiered vehicles…
7:57 WOO WOO
0:26 you take that back, he’s beautiful 🥺
Heat now pierces light stuff like bushes and chain link fences. I had it happen a few times so not sure if its a glitch or actual gameplay change.
I use the kinetic rounds on the turms III since I find the damage to be more consistent than heat. I don't like heat very much since there's moments where I should be killing someone, but the damage for some reason doesn't add up.
"How did that not do more damage" -Spookston after shooting the driver compartment of a G6, behind which is over a thousand millimeters of engine/transmission compartment and empty space before even getting any where near the fighting compartment. Not to mention the fact that the HEAT jet wasn't even at the right elevation to damage any of the gun crew, aside from the loaders.
There is no universe in which that shot wasn't awful and didn't result in your death. The driver and fighting compartments are separated by TWO RHA spall shields. It would make no sense for the pressure in the driver compartment to kill the crew in the fighting compartment that's a meter, two spall shields, and an engine/transmission/fuel compartment away.
Also, yes. HEAT and HE no longer get eaten by bushes. That was just a visual bug, which I believe was fixed in the recent round of fixes.
Nice vid. Remind me to not play 8.0. Still hoping for an M4A2 (75) Sherman video.
Round 61 for the Ariete Spaghetti.
Keep up the great content
1:35: Me, when is that colorful parade at the end of June
HEAT seems to have a visual bug or SOMETHING when it comes to detonating on trees/bushes/whatever, because I've had it detonate on trees and still manage to hit my intended target like 30 meters away.