@@chrisvillarreal2752 Yeah, I've just bought my 1st ever Kato '04 525exc Nearly 20yrs Out of Date, but it's still seems Great! - The Newer Ones must be on a Different Level - I guess if you make a premium product - folks will pay extra! -Cheers👍
Yeah the honda does and it could probably compete better if the comp was only focused on making dirt bikes like KTM is but they are not sadly. It seems like a lot of effort is put elsewhere with honda
I appreciate all the information! I started on a Honda years ago then rode Yamaha for most of my life. Due to the issues Yamaha is having with new bikes that I’ve seen and heard from family and buddies, I’m getting away from them. I’m really looking into a huskqvarna FC350 or 450. But Honda has always had a soft spot in my heart lol. I’ve never owned a husky but looking like I might within a few weeks!
Finally an objective review. Not that any of the bikes are bad these days, but it was refreshing to hear why and how things were better or worse. Honda sinking money into “all new” hype marketing, Husky “same boring bike as last year but lower.”
Honda is the brand that everybody looks to. Thats why getting a factory honda ride is always a bigger deal then being on another team. Its been like that forever
@@jmard24 once again all hype. You wanted to get signed to Honda because they had small 1-2 man teams and huge salary as a result. Get signed by Roger Decoster no matter what team he's managing is what that really translates to.
It was welded on bung which was used to attached an oxygen sensor for ECU mapping and dyno testing. We had Twisted Development put it on when we were testing different maps on this bike. It's still stock and the bung doesn't have any effects on performance
@@milesdufourny4813 if u look it up Honda is at the at the Top of there Game right now Along with Kawasaki 1.Kawasaki 2.Honda 3.KTM 4.yamaha 5.Husky 6.Suzuki
I like how the onda is red. Husky is blue/yellow/white, and ktm is orange/white/black. Dirt bike of nowadays are too color. Two colors are allowed and one of them is either Black or white. Check out the 2021 gas gas
Honda could probably do better but they aren’t just a dirt bike company, they make cars street bikes and all sorts of engines. So I have to give KTM props for being a company completely focused on dirt bikes
KTM make large road bikes and compete in road racing. Honda are the largest motor manufacturer in the world when it comes to the number of motors made. js
Here’s my vote. I’ve owned both a 21 KTM450 and crf450. And I undisputedly think that ktm/husky is paying these guys to vote them the top bike. Honda takes the cake anyday and it’s undeniable
I’ve rode many different brands at a pro level here’s my opinion. Honda is the best handling chassis Yamaha has the best engine since I like a torquey engine kawi is good at everything but not great At anything Suzuki handles okay but to little flex for me and slow Ktm/husky/gas gas are my least favorite bike I’ve ever rode they have a very empty feeling on the front end and I’ve rode them with 52’s 48 cones, and kyb forks with many different triple clamps and they never have that tire meeting the ground feeling on the front a Honda is best at that feeling they feel connected to the ground definitely my favorite brand so having said that 100% they pay these media companies I rank Ktm above Suzuki but that’s it was not a fan of them whatsoever
Here's my vote. You are full of it! Honda tried SO HARD to copy KTM in the new 2021 CRF450 and failed miserably! Back to single exhaust with resonance chamber, hydraulic clutch, trying to go to a more linear usable power band but everyone ranked the Honda last in 2021.... How sad! Honda wants to be KTM SO BADLY!
@@krafty9067 that is fine, I get it I’m not saying I didn’t like my ktm. I’m saying the Honda is far superior. You don’t have to agree with me that’s your input. But until you own both at the same time and race all MX, gncc and dirt drag, don’t come to at me by reading the brochure lol. Add personal experiences into the equation and you’ll be on the Honda train as well
I'm sure this is old knowledge, but I would guess that Honda's "hyper-fast", aggressive power delivery was a result of all those years where the CRF450 powerband was so anemic and they got tired of the reviews saying as much. Then they went overboard with their response now they have dialed it back just a little. Pure guessing on my part but it sure seems logical.
I watched this video just to see how bad you would bash Honda because well you have been doing it consistently since 2009. I bet if you put red plastics on that Husky you'd say it was a POS.
Off subject I know...Sorry but feel the need to speak my mind right or wrong. IMO...there is NO reason to have any water cooling on a dirt bike. It's extra weight and costs. Newer isn't always better. It worked then and would work now.
You didn't grow up racing air cooled mx bikes did you ? If you did you'd know how much that the air cooled bikes lost power towards the end of the motos. That was also on 2strokes which run cooler than 4strokes by a huge difference.
I just bought a 2022 CRF 450 Honda RL and it has the stiffer suspension I've ever rode in my life like a covered wagon I had a $1,000 worth of suspension and rear shock work done it is absolutely just as stiff as it used to be after all the suspension work was done I'm wondering if it can ever be saved so do not ever ever ride this bike in the dirt and that's what I bought it for
Today, and back in the old days, I'd say follow the bikes Roger DeCoster is developing. Today that is: KTM, and now Husky and GasGas. When Roger was at Honda, that was the brand to have. I raced his designed 1983 Honda CR 250 to many wins at Carlsbad after having my ass handed to me while riding other brands.
This is totally unsatisfactory on Honda's part. Here you have the worlds motorcycle manufacturer with the world's largest R&D budget and can't do any better than that!? Shame on you Honda...you will pay the price sooner or later producing such crap to your consumer base. I think I'll buy the Husky now...
The motorcross I have no excuse for haha... But as for Husk a varna, I've never been corrected on that in person. I say it the same way other Americans say it and funny enough, I'm 50% Swedish!
@@joshmosiman1955 No big deal! It’s more an issue that no one in our sport ever gets coached! Same as the riders constantly saying “we” when it’s actually “I” but you are still improving and doing a great job!
Once again KTM action magazine try their best to advertise worse bike of the year for their ktm boss ... wanna compare then dare and compare it with kx450 ;) ... we all know why you wont ....
@@mahaniamir I’ve seen countless kx 450s blow up. They are the least reliable bike out there right with the worst parts. Sure they ride good but clap out before you can finish a moto
I have two huskies and love them both. Best bikes I've ever owned, hands down, and I've owned them all.
What about ktm?
@@tristanlangmalakas3882 I enjoyed my KTM's, but my Huskies are a step above in my opinion.
@@GaryPiazza ohh ok i might try a husky. Your comment made me interested.
Please kill the background music.
The $200 cheaper than Honda GasGas is the bargain of the MX world.
My vote is Husqvarna. Will be interesting to see what MXA came up with.
instablaster.
That new honda has been growin on me
I’m digging the newer, more edgy MXA!
I'm Starting to Wonder if KTM/ Husky is Giving Incentives to Bike Testers🤔👍
You're not the first... or the last
I used to think the same then I actually bought one to see the hype and they’re not wrong ktm are on a whole other level.
@@chrisvillarreal2752 Yeah, I've just bought my 1st ever Kato '04 525exc Nearly 20yrs Out of Date, but it's still seems Great! - The Newer Ones must be on a Different Level - I guess if you make a premium product - folks will pay extra! -Cheers👍
Pretty much how I suspected. The result should not come as a shock to anyone.
Soon the shootouts will be among the KTM brands only...ha, ha!
That Honda has a load of potential, out the box though KTM and Husky are hard to beat. The works edition Honda will be amazing..
Works addition 2022 is amazing
I just ordered my 2022 450r WE . Comes end of September! Hope it's worth 17,800$$ can
Is the ktmsxf 450 as reliable as the honda ??
Yeah the honda does and it could probably compete better if the comp was only focused on making dirt bikes like KTM is but they are not sadly. It seems like a lot of effort is put elsewhere with honda
I appreciate all the information! I started on a Honda years ago then rode Yamaha for most of my life. Due to the issues Yamaha is having with new bikes that I’ve seen and heard from family and buddies, I’m getting away from them. I’m really looking into a huskqvarna FC350 or 450. But Honda has always had a soft spot in my heart lol. I’ve never owned a husky but looking like I might within a few weeks!
Gone are the day of "Honda's all new CRF 450 Best open bike ever made?" on the cover. Now some honest assessment. Thank you!
Crf😍😍😍😍😍
Please make video about why motocross exhaust pipe nowadays is so big,, I'm curious about it
Finally an objective review. Not that any of the bikes are bad these days, but it was refreshing to hear why and how things were better or worse. Honda sinking money into “all new” hype marketing, Husky “same boring bike as last year but lower.”
Honda is the brand that everybody looks to. Thats why getting a factory honda ride is always a bigger deal then being on another team. Its been like that forever
@@jmard24 once again all hype. You wanted to get signed to Honda because they had small 1-2 man teams and huge salary as a result. Get signed by Roger Decoster no matter what team he's managing is what that really translates to.
Why does you’re guys crf have a different header than mine. Why’s that little piece that sticks off for
It was welded on bung which was used to attached an oxygen sensor for ECU mapping and dyno testing. We had Twisted Development put it on when we were testing different maps on this bike. It's still stock and the bung doesn't have any effects on performance
When is the 450 shootout going to be available ?
Sorry MXA, I had to turn off that audio at 2:31, it's like a dripping faucet. Will watch vid to the end though.
Good Vid, seems that with some tweeking the Honda can be made better for those who like Red. If I was in the market, I would go Husky at this time.
I think the Honda beats the Husky
In what world?????
@@kirkwilliams2127 ???
In some alternative universe perhaps, in reality.....No.
@@milesdufourny4813 if u look it up Honda is at the at the Top of there Game right now Along with Kawasaki 1.Kawasaki 2.Honda 3.KTM 4.yamaha 5.Husky 6.Suzuki
I like how the onda is red. Husky is blue/yellow/white, and ktm is orange/white/black. Dirt bike of nowadays are too color.
Two colors are allowed and one of them is either Black or white.
Check out the 2021 gas gas
every one is seeking perfection....its hard to find
its a first year honda im not surprised with the results
I had, Yamaha an Honda before, Husqvarna for the win always!
2022 Honda CRF450R or the RWE is the best for me
Honda could probably do better but they aren’t just a dirt bike company, they make cars street bikes and all sorts of engines. So I have to give KTM props for being a company completely focused on dirt bikes
KTM make large road bikes and compete in road racing. Honda are the largest motor manufacturer in the world when it comes to the number of motors made. js
Here’s my vote. I’ve owned both a 21 KTM450 and crf450. And I undisputedly think that ktm/husky is paying these guys to vote them the top bike. Honda takes the cake anyday and it’s undeniable
I’ve rode many different brands at a pro level here’s my opinion. Honda is the best handling chassis Yamaha has the best engine since I like a torquey engine kawi is good at everything but not great At anything Suzuki handles okay but to little flex for me and slow Ktm/husky/gas gas are my least favorite bike I’ve ever rode they have a very empty feeling on the front end and I’ve rode them with 52’s 48 cones, and kyb forks with many different triple clamps and they never have that tire meeting the ground feeling on the front a Honda is best at that feeling they feel connected to the ground definitely my favorite brand so having said that 100% they pay these media companies I rank Ktm above Suzuki but that’s it was not a fan of them whatsoever
Here's my vote. You are full of it! Honda tried SO HARD to copy KTM in the new 2021 CRF450 and failed miserably! Back to single exhaust with resonance chamber, hydraulic clutch, trying to go to a more linear usable power band but everyone ranked the Honda last in 2021.... How sad! Honda wants to be KTM SO BADLY!
@@krafty9067 that is fine, I get it I’m not saying I didn’t like my ktm. I’m saying the Honda is far superior. You don’t have to agree with me that’s your input. But until you own both at the same time and race all MX, gncc and dirt drag, don’t come to at me by reading the brochure lol. Add personal experiences into the equation and you’ll be on the Honda train as well
I'm sure this is old knowledge, but I would guess that Honda's "hyper-fast", aggressive power delivery was a result of all those years where the CRF450 powerband was so anemic and they got tired of the reviews saying as much. Then they went overboard with their response now they have dialed it back just a little. Pure guessing on my part but it sure seems logical.
100%
My Old '08 Crf450 is a Ball Buster!! No Soy with that Bike!!😉👍
@@purebloodheretic4682 Those models hit HARD off the bottom
I love all my Honda's but damn, the new ones ain't doin so hot, smh.
They came out with some bulletins for ecu reflashes.
I have both even yamaha honestly i will go with Husky
I'd be winning a lot of races if I had a new 450. I'd probably turn pro if they gave me a factory bike
I guess Honda got tired of getting beat by ktm and husky so they copied their homework.
Crf in the all way's better
honda really dropped the ball on a potentially bad ass bike
KTM, Husky, Gasgas and BETA are the same bike with some different components
Need to always do a drag race.
Honda!
Askavarna?
Crf
I watched this video just to see how bad you would bash Honda because well you have been doing it consistently since 2009. I bet if you put red plastics on that Husky you'd say it was a POS.
that bike won mxgp 2020....
Just take the fork springs out of the Honda and put air in and it will fix it
Now the Honda is unbalanced. They cheaped out by getting rid of the dual pipes. That's why it doesn't turn right
I will stay with honda
Off subject I know...Sorry but feel the need to speak my mind right or wrong. IMO...there is NO reason to have any water cooling on a dirt bike. It's extra weight and costs. Newer isn't always better. It worked then and would work now.
You didn't grow up racing air cooled mx bikes did you ? If you did you'd know how much that the air cooled bikes lost power towards the end of the motos. That was also on 2strokes which run cooler than 4strokes by a huge difference.
Depends on if the husky is 15 and the Honda is 94
We'll just get a #2 KTM to punk/mug the #94 Honda consistently. Lol
OMG I want a husky
I just bought a 2022 CRF 450 Honda RL and it has the stiffer suspension I've ever rode in my life like a covered wagon I had a $1,000 worth of suspension and rear shock work done it is absolutely just as stiff as it used to be after all the suspension work was done I'm wondering if it can ever be saved so do not ever ever ride this bike in the dirt and that's what I bought it for
Come on guys it's damping you are controlling a load. Dampening is getting something wet.
The correct pronunciation is Huus-kvarna. Not Hasqioaarna.
Honda haters.
So, the Honda sucks basically lol. I guess they forgot to add 1 tooth to the rear sprocket. I wonder if Honda fenders would fit on the Gas Gas?
Improve for the ones who ride red 💯
I bleed red
Remember the days without mapping and hole shot just using the good old clutch 🙄 damn these new bikes are nice 👍
austrian bikes are and have always been miles ahead of japanese bikes.
Today, and back in the old days, I'd say follow the bikes Roger DeCoster is developing. Today that is: KTM, and now Husky and GasGas. When Roger was at Honda, that was the brand to have. I raced his designed 1983 Honda CR 250 to many wins at Carlsbad after having my ass handed to me while riding other brands.
the Austrians are very good in communication, they buy the "journalists" to have favorable tests .. Japan bike 👌👍👍
Yep KTM 'Kick Backs' I Reckon 😉👍
So much honda hate
This is totally unsatisfactory on Honda's part. Here you have the worlds motorcycle manufacturer with the world's largest R&D budget and can't do any better than that!? Shame on you Honda...you will pay the price sooner or later producing such crap to your consumer base. I think I'll buy the Husky now...
i will never buy in my life a husky,why its a fake ktm!
So what. It's still a far better bike than the Honda.
@Dark Coven more expensive version you mean
@@milesdufourny4813 ktm think they can buy all brands.best you can do is buy japanese bikes
Great that's more for me
Husky is better while it’s running- which won’t be for long.
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You still have some ktm on your chin ...
Alot of chicks from the streets in your comments mxa
Sup girl?
Josh, its moto cross not motorcross. Husq varna, not Husk a varna. Your a professional now!
The motorcross I have no excuse for haha... But as for Husk a varna, I've never been corrected on that in person. I say it the same way other Americans say it and funny enough, I'm 50% Swedish!
@@joshmosiman1955 No big deal! It’s more an issue that no one in our sport ever gets coached! Same as the riders constantly saying “we” when it’s actually “I” but you are still improving and doing a great job!
@@jamest4383 Haha thanks! I agree, it's funny when guys say "we" instead of "I"
#ridered
how does honda fuck up so bad with these map settings?
Very Nice bile ❤️👍
Mxa accept paychecks from ktm
Once again KTM action magazine try their best to advertise worse bike of the year for their ktm boss ... wanna compare then dare and compare it with kx450 ;) ... we all know why you wont ....
Did you watch the last KX450 MXA video? The bike was falling apart after 10 hours. The durability is the worst in class lol.
@@krafty9067 OMG another KTM fever
@@mahaniamir I’ve seen countless kx 450s blow up. They are the least reliable bike out there right with the worst parts. Sure they ride good but clap out before you can finish a moto