I think the reason why the top 250s are qualifying with nearly the same times as the top 450s is that the 250 teams are making their 250s as powerful as possible, while the 450 teams are trying to make their bikes more manageable for their riders to race by making them mellower. In effect making the 250s faster and the 450s slower. IMPO I think this is a good reason to get rid of the 450 class and replace it with a 350 class. If the AMA were to change supercross to a 250 class and a 350 class this may persuade the Japanese manufacturers to start producing 350s. Then the AMA and MXGP could eventually replace the 450 outdoor motocross class with 350s. I have seen several videos of back-to-back lap times of 250s, 350s, and 450s and the 350s had the fastest lap times as they are more manageable to ride than a 450 and don't tire you out as much as a 450 does. Time for change!
Honestly, I bought the 22 FC 350, and I traded it in at 1.2 hrs for a 22.5 Factory Edition 450. At 190 lbs it was rough, but I like alot of bottom so I can ride a gear high on my 450. But I wouldn't mind trying the 23 350, heard it's alot better, and I love the chassis on my 22.5, bet it's a better package 🏁🤙
@@scotttapp1453 I think the racing federations like the AMA and MXGP would force the Japanese to make 350s if they changed to 250 & 350 only. I mean Toni Cairoli was winning World Championships on a 350 in the 450 class.
The 250 riders have pretty much just as just as much skill as the 450 riders. Moving up to the 450 class is being able to manage all that power while maintaining the same lap times. So just cause your on a 450 doesn’t mean you should have 10 second faster lap times. It’s a bigger bike with more power which requires more strength and throttle control which is what separates the 250’s from the 450’s
I'd love it if they had their regular group of test riders and then added in a average guy that can't whip the bike, barely clear a tabletop and wouldn't ever attempt to hit a triple(ME!) but just loves to ride and get their opinion as well. Great review though, always enjoy watching the shiny colors going as fast as they were designed to go!
Coming from a guy who has had kx250f’s, ktm 250f’s and a Honda, I test rode a yz250f and absolutely fell in love with it. Sure it might not be the best for my string bean ass with the height, but the bike just worked, and worked well. Suspension was better stock, than my A Kit on my ktm, plus you don’t have to deal with the constant air bubbles in the clutch line like the piles of shit called ktms
As always, nice work on the shootout but the crappy / too loud 'music' someone in final editing decides that absolutely must be included to add 'excitement' unfortunately is just real annoying.
I'm still patiently waiting on the off road 350 shootout. Especially the Beta 350RR race edition vs the gas gas ex350f.......heck throw in the yz250fx since it's the only Japanese bike that even has a 6 speed transmission.
Mama (Yamaha) always wins smh it’s so annoying 😂 Suzy RMZ always makes last place smhlmao every year 😂🤦🏾♂️ (Husky made #2 wow 💯 and Kiwi didn’t make the Top 3…I’m pissed about that lol) idc because I still want to own one and convert it for the street…yes I do! *#ILoveTheRMZ* *#Suzuki*
@@zepcrazyfreYet, riders still win on the platform. If you’ve got the money and know how to ride you can win on any of these bikes. These shootouts aren’t about which bikes you can win on, they’re about dyno specs and other things most riders will never be able to take advantage of. I’d ride a RM any day and have a blast.
I’m not saying the Honda should be number one but with a couple small changes that bike is waaaaaay better than the yamaha. I’d still take the Honda over the yamaha but that Husky sure is nice..
I had both.. I like the Honda way better with just an ignition update, turns way better, feels and is lighter, its just more fun to ride and throw around
The Honda isn't even close to how good Yamaha is . Yamaha has dominated for good reason , it's by far the most reliable bike with Honda coming in second , Suzuki 3rd , KTM 4th and Kawi 5th . It has the best suspension and power and handles everything great . That's why it's dominated so many shootouts .
@@Runk3lsmcdougalthey may be nobodies worldwide. But they dominate the largest market in the world, and I think they're okay with that lol. Plus they dominated moto GP, so they might just know a thing or two.
No duh it got last place, but with the price you get for one, you can get aftermarket parts to make it better than the best bike in the class, also it has a mapping app on your phone which some of the best bikes don’t have
@@hansremington u can get the RM Army package sometimes with a free pipe and graphics. Change the map and change the fork springs and it should be dialed.
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I think the reason why the top 250s are qualifying with nearly the same times as the top 450s is that the 250 teams are making their 250s as powerful as possible, while the 450 teams are trying to make their bikes more manageable for their riders to race by making them mellower. In effect making the 250s faster and the 450s slower. IMPO I think this is a good reason to get rid of the 450 class and replace it with a 350 class. If the AMA were to change supercross to a 250 class and a 350 class this may persuade the Japanese manufacturers to start producing 350s. Then the AMA and MXGP could eventually replace the 450 outdoor motocross class with 350s. I have seen several videos of back-to-back lap times of 250s, 350s, and 450s and the 350s had the fastest lap times as they are more manageable to ride than a 450 and don't tire you out as much as a 450 does. Time for change!
Now you just have to convince the Japanese to make 350's.
Honestly, I bought the 22 FC 350, and I traded it in at 1.2 hrs for a 22.5 Factory Edition 450. At 190 lbs it was rough, but I like alot of bottom so I can ride a gear high on my 450. But I wouldn't mind trying the 23 350, heard it's alot better, and I love the chassis on my 22.5, bet it's a better package 🏁🤙
@@scotttapp1453 I think the racing federations like the AMA and MXGP would force the Japanese to make 350s if they changed to 250 & 350 only. I mean Toni Cairoli was winning World Championships on a 350 in the 450 class.
The 250 riders have pretty much just as just as much skill as the 450 riders. Moving up to the 450 class is being able to manage all that power while maintaining the same lap times. So just cause your on a 450 doesn’t mean you should have 10 second faster lap times. It’s a bigger bike with more power which requires more strength and throttle control which is what separates the 250’s from the 450’s
No one is trying to make their 450 slower. Silliest thing I ever heard.
Team Green ALWAYS!
most honest accurate reviews in the business imho
you guys have been crushing it
Nobody in the business beats MXA
@@Davido50 dont even remotely agree with that. Mosiman has improved their program a bunch of late.
@HPRaceDevelopment Who is better in MX bike review business then? Been in this hobby over 35yrs seen /read all reviewing sources out there.
I'd love it if they had their regular group of test riders and then added in a average guy that can't whip the bike, barely clear a tabletop and wouldn't ever attempt to hit a triple(ME!) but just loves to ride and get their opinion as well. Great review though, always enjoy watching the shiny colors going as fast as they were designed to go!
Coming from a guy who has had kx250f’s, ktm 250f’s and a Honda, I test rode a yz250f and absolutely fell in love with it. Sure it might not be the best for my string bean ass with the height, but the bike just worked, and worked well. Suspension was better stock, than my A Kit on my ktm, plus you don’t have to deal with the constant air bubbles in the clutch line like the piles of shit called ktms
As always, nice work on the shootout but the crappy / too loud 'music' someone in final editing decides that absolutely must be included to add 'excitement' unfortunately is just real annoying.
Sorry You are upset about the music. There is a mute button available on youtube also!
I agree music sucks
RMZ😍😍😍
Love the simplicity view of your reviews,to the point
my buddy just picked up a new 22 RMZ250 at a dealer for $5,700! That’s a good deal for the bike!!
You can spend the same money on a ktm on a Suzuki and have an absolute killer bike, as long as you don’t mind a little right leg work out 😂
@@austinmonk8809 not a new one! They'll cost at least 8K. A used 250F at AEO is like 6500 for a 2021.
@@jpesicka492 around here they sell new for 7300, my buddy just bought one 2 days ago
@@austinmonk8809 ya thats not 5700
Thanks for giving us your opinion. Also, really good music choice
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Yamaha is still the G.O.A.T 💯
I'm still patiently waiting on the off road 350 shootout. Especially the Beta 350RR race edition vs the gas gas ex350f.......heck throw in the yz250fx since it's the only Japanese bike that even has a 6 speed transmission.
I'm looking for a new 250 four-stroke now. Yamaha & KTM are sold out near me! -Ohio
There’s Always the RMZ
It's my birthday on the 2 of March so can wait
Yamaha is still the G.O.A.T . The YZ250F for 2024 will be all new ..
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Keep sending 🆒 bike video's
Mama (Yamaha) always wins smh it’s so annoying 😂 Suzy RMZ always makes last place smhlmao every year 😂🤦🏾♂️ (Husky made #2 wow 💯 and Kiwi didn’t make the Top 3…I’m pissed about that lol) idc because I still want to own one and convert it for the street…yes I do! *#ILoveTheRMZ* *#Suzuki*
Suzuki comes in last in EVERY SHOOTOUT.
@@herbcanter2114 EVERY. SINGLE. SHOOTOUT. LMAO AND ITS JUST CORNY AT THIS POINT 🤣🤣🤣
@@zepcrazyfreYet, riders still win on the platform. If you’ve got the money and know how to ride you can win on any of these bikes. These shootouts aren’t about which bikes you can win on, they’re about dyno specs and other things most riders will never be able to take advantage of. I’d ride a RM any day and have a blast.
I love the KX250. You can go and buy one right now for $7K. That’s an insanely good value. Winner.
Another Yamaha love in 😴
Why we put on Dyno the same bike in Italy the bike as less HP ? We read the wheel power and are very different compared your test.
Where's the TM Racing 250?
If the metal and bikes need to be loud then make the narrator also louder.
honda and yamaha 2hp more then suzuki. cant tell that the feeling is big as they all say. they also have 3 hp less to austria and kawi.
Suzuki is the best
One word is dirt bikes honda
Why no 2 strokes.
Cause it’s a 250f shootout
And they're not even relevant or competitive anymore in their class.
I’m not saying the Honda should be number one but with a couple small changes that bike is waaaaaay better than the yamaha. I’d still take the Honda over the yamaha but that Husky sure is nice..
Honda sucks ass, have fun supporting companies that only make 4 strokes. Commie liberal.
I had both.. I like the Honda way better with just an ignition update, turns way better, feels and is lighter, its just more fun to ride and throw around
@@robkeller8008 Honda and yamaha or honda and husky ?
@@amikhael5135 yamaha
The Honda isn't even close to how good Yamaha is . Yamaha has dominated for good reason , it's by far the most reliable bike with Honda coming in second , Suzuki 3rd , KTM 4th and Kawi 5th . It has the best suspension and power and handles everything great . That's why it's dominated so many shootouts .
Guys, what about sherco and beta?
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Where's the TM?
Never seen one in SX ? Or a beta ?
@@beamecho9898 I saw a privateer on a TM at SLC
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yamaha dominates 250 and 450 class
Yamahas a bunch of nobodies worldwide other than Elis last season and Dylans outdoor season for the past 20 years my dude
@@Runk3lsmcdougalthey may be nobodies worldwide. But they dominate the largest market in the world, and I think they're okay with that lol. Plus they dominated moto GP, so they might just know a thing or two.
suzuki RMZ the worst
No duh it got last place, but with the price you get for one, you can get aftermarket parts to make it better than the best bike in the class, also it has a mapping app on your phone which some of the best bikes don’t have
@@aydenrich262 aftermarket parts = more money
@@hansremington u can get the RM Army package sometimes with a free pipe and graphics. Change the map and change the fork springs and it should be dialed.
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