Knees Over Toes Exercises - Review While Performed By Doctor of PT

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  • Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
  • Wondering if the Knees Over Toes Guy workout is safe and legit? Watch as I (a doctor of physical therapy PT) actually perform the knees over toes exercises and review each one for safety and effectiveness. Knees over toes guy's (Ben Patrick) passion for helping others is clear by his emphatic delivery and personal experience. I will review the nordic curls, reverse nordic curls, the sissy squat, tibialis raise, KOT split squat, slantboard reverse step up, and
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    CHAPTERS
    00:00- Intro
    00:55 - Nordic Hamstring Curls
    03:22 - Sissy Squat
    04:25 - Reverse Nordics
    06:16 - Decline Squats / Reverse Slantboard Step Ups
    10:02 - Knee Over Toe Split Squat
    13:09 - Resisted Hip Flexion (Using Monkey Foot!)
    16:06 - Resisted Ankle Dorsiflexion AKA Tibialis Raise
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  • @MovementProjectPT
    @MovementProjectPT  5 месяцев назад +5

    Want to see my review of Knees Over Toes Upper body program? ruclips.net/video/yHoMS4t0-ZY/видео.html

  • @kermitthefrogsings280
    @kermitthefrogsings280 3 года назад +1931

    Knees over toes guy is no joke, I had knee pain and tried his recommended exercises and my knee pain in 80% gone

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +117

      Great news!

    • @cadenferguson7460
      @cadenferguson7460 3 года назад +45

      How long did it take? Also how often did you work out and what exercises did you do?

    • @calebliu2743
      @calebliu2743 3 года назад +63

      I mostly did the atg split squats and the deep squats. Reps depend on the amount of weight you use and I did that five days a week sometimes four.

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 3 года назад +27

      I'm hoping the knees over toes workouts and wearing barefoot shoes will help reduce my knee pain. It might be jiu jotsu related, and age may play a small factor (im 62)

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +11

      @@onerider808 Go get em! Let me know if I can help with any questions.

  • @rodgerbane3825
    @rodgerbane3825 3 года назад +426

    The knees over toes guy is a BIG believer in being incremental. That is smart.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +8

      Well said

    • @rodgerbane3825
      @rodgerbane3825 3 года назад +68

      @The Deathless It means doing things in very small steps, starting at the beginning and not skipping ahead.

    • @georgenaratadam3803
      @georgenaratadam3803 3 года назад +25

      @@rodgerbane3825my biggest takeaway from last year was when Pavel Tsatsouline said something to the effect of “you DO NOT want to force adaptation”

    • @lightworker4512
      @lightworker4512 3 года назад +7

      Agreed. Goal is to stay within the elastic portion of the Stress-Strain curve to prevent injury while making gains.

    • @Limpass610
      @Limpass610 3 года назад +1

      @@georgenaratadam3803 is this where your body get adapted to the load to the point that for you to make any muscle growth you have to increase said load by a lot?

  • @EdwardsNH
    @EdwardsNH 3 года назад +1625

    I've been a personal trainer for 30 years... that towel under the door trick for nordic curls just blew my mind. Thanks!
    edit: Make sure you are on the side of the door where you CAN'T see the hinges, so that it's the frame supporting the door, and not just the doorknob.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +76

      Thanks for the awesome comment! I did add that piece of info into my Nordic hack video. Definitely don't want someone pulling their door off!

    • @sagixcv10
      @sagixcv10 3 года назад +3

      Thanks for the info, that trick is so useful for nordics

    • @younglonny2220
      @younglonny2220 3 года назад +9

      great hack that can also be applied to using bands or a bedsheet at the top for the door to use for pulling exercises

    • @adamlake9507
      @adamlake9507 3 года назад +2

      🤯

    • @otxoawolf9054
      @otxoawolf9054 3 года назад +1

      Yeah that was pretty awesome 😎

  • @nikitaw1982
    @nikitaw1982 3 года назад +554

    thanks you for the nordic curl knots in a sheet method

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +10

      Glad you liked it!

    • @SlowerOne
      @SlowerOne 3 года назад +14

      I was about to buy equipment for this, who knew a dog leash would work for the Nordic curl.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +2

      @@SlowerOne Nice!

    • @terrenceduarte5348
      @terrenceduarte5348 3 года назад +2

      For real. Bought a belt to wrap around a bench but i never thought of that. A great basic

    • @Smuddpie
      @Smuddpie 3 года назад +1

      @@terrenceduarte5348 and the strap/bench forces meto keep my knees closer together than is really comfortable. This will be better!

  • @bluewaters3100
    @bluewaters3100 Год назад +75

    I love this video. Thanks from a 70 year old who got rid of knee and hip pain just by doing backward walking everyday. Now I am ready for more and this video is perfect.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  Год назад +5

      Wonderful! Glad you liked it and thanks for sharing your story. It's amazing how simple the fix can be for a condition the modern medical system prefers surgery.

  • @FrancisLCorro
    @FrancisLCorro 3 года назад +376

    Whoever started the idea/movement about not bending the knees past the toes did the fitness world a great disservice. Thank God for KOTG for going against the grain and making their own movement!

    • @thedon9670
      @thedon9670 3 года назад +2

      Well said!

    • @majormarketing6552
      @majormarketing6552 3 года назад +14

      Cant forget we live in barbarian ran countries. These people are not known for flexibility

    • @Olja
      @Olja 3 года назад +27

      Hell yea been training like that for the past 12years and now at the gym im the guy ppl look at "wtf is he doin he gonna hurt himself" but why give a fuck my knees feel incredible!

    • @gb8848
      @gb8848 3 года назад +1

      The funny thing is, as pointed out by @Movement Project PT when using the slantboard you are repositioning yourself so that your knees DONT move over the toes while increasing load. I was able to do a similar thing by doing supported squats--door handle squats--and keeping my knees over my ankle and then incrementally increasing the difficulty by using my hands less. The slantboard is a similar adaptation--when viewed biomechanically you ARENT putting your knees in front of your toes while using the slantboard....

    • @br0l0g
      @br0l0g 2 года назад +9

      He wasn't the first but I'm glad he made it mainstream

  • @axeontherun
    @axeontherun 3 года назад +252

    Thanks for the DIY to do the Nordic curl at home! 😎

  • @xXTiggaBoBXx
    @xXTiggaBoBXx 3 года назад +798

    00:55 - Nordic Hamstring Curls
    03:22 - Sissy Squat
    06:16 - Decline Squats / Reverse Slantboard Step Ups
    10:02 - Knee Over Toe Split Squat
    13:09 - Resisted Hip Flexion (Using Monkey Foot!)
    16:06 - Resisted Ankle Dorsiflexion AKA Tibialis Raise

  • @jonowoodgo
    @jonowoodgo 2 года назад +24

    Ben's basics have got helped me get rid of knee pain ive had for 31 years.
    No physio could help i was just being active in pain and if i followed the physios advice i would be still resting and waiting to this day, and no doubt a lot worse of than going with my gut.
    No found Bens basics on RUclips and my god, at 44yo i haven't felt this good since 13.
    Kudos to the man🙌💯

  • @WheyLandFitness
    @WheyLandFitness 3 года назад +254

    your nordic curl setup is genius, will definitley be using that sheet method from now on

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +10

      Try doing one leg at a time with push-up assist too!

    • @WheyLandFitness
      @WheyLandFitness 3 года назад +3

      @@MovementProjectPT Thanks for the tip, i struggled doing two feet today so will give that a go next session

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +7

      Good Luck. It's like doing a superset at the same time. Just keep switching legs while you continue push ups.

    • @loadedmango387
      @loadedmango387 3 года назад

      @@MovementProjectPT thats super legit exercise

    • @EdwardsNH
      @EdwardsNH 3 года назад +3

      Right?! I've been a personal trainer for 30 years, and have struggled with a good solo Nordic Ham Curl method... This is brilliant!!

  • @BasicGestalt
    @BasicGestalt 3 года назад +156

    I rigged my own nordic setup too, and I would highly recommend putting more padding under your knees to elevate them and to get your shin bone more parallel to the ground because it makes an enormous difference

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад +30

      Great call. You’re right, having the ankles plantar flexed is not ideal. I am going to try it elevated soon!

    • @Yaboishwa
      @Yaboishwa 2 года назад +3

      I’m KOT guys videos you’ll notice that he always has the pressure on the skin, so the way he has been do the Nordic puts minimal pressure on the knee cap

    • @cbilmn1044
      @cbilmn1044 2 года назад

      @@MovementProjectPT my knees goes back.....I have knee hypertension.....what should I do

    • @AngelinaB20
      @AngelinaB20 2 года назад +4

      I think the problem is the towel needs to be tighter to the door, so as to not let the ankles move up when starting the movement.
      Take out that slack and you’re parallel to the ground.

    • @MishaTheUnicorn227
      @MishaTheUnicorn227 Год назад

      @@AngelinaB20 makes sense

  • @ingekaivola4685
    @ingekaivola4685 2 года назад +5

    I love that you are showing me how I can do these at home without equipment!!!

  • @seamussullivan2218
    @seamussullivan2218 3 года назад +97

    The hip flexor explanation of nerves firing was....all I needed to hear...! Loved it!

  • @conabraham1653
    @conabraham1653 3 года назад +103

    Aside from the terrific evaluation you did, its refreshing to see your affable professionalism, your humility, conveying clearly your thoughts and what i feel of your vibe of self improvement which is motivating as well. Thank you for this vid and i wish you well. New subs here.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +4

      Wow. You definitely made my day! I appreciate the kind words and your subscription. Please share with anyone you think would benefit 👍

  • @TroyDettwiler
    @TroyDettwiler 3 года назад +5

    Video was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to create it and being so clear.

  • @JakeRichardsong
    @JakeRichardsong 2 года назад +70

    Thank you for reviewing the exercises. This is exactly what I wanted to see -- someone with credentials and experience commenting on them. It can be difficult sometimes to separate facts from Internet/social media hype.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад +7

      Glad you found it helpful!

    • @LarsRyeJeppesen
      @LarsRyeJeppesen Год назад

      Agree, great video!

    • @pnp8849
      @pnp8849 10 месяцев назад +1

      Animal saturated fats are good healthy and required by human body that's fact. Unsaturated oil such as canola, soy, corn promoted by medical industry and investors as good fat is media hype.

  • @reddrabbit5056
    @reddrabbit5056 3 года назад +4

    Thank you Movement Project. Adds more credibility to the exercises when when PT expert explains and clarifies.

  • @bennyhayes4283
    @bennyhayes4283 3 года назад +11

    Thanks for your review and analysis. I have been working as a PT assistant for 32 years, and always love discovering new training concepts. Also love the way that you take the time to respond to the many questions. You have gained yet another subscriber. BTW, we have incorporated the use of voodoo floss (works great on knees), and some applications of ART for shoulder pain and limited ROM, with great results. Keep up the great work.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Benny! I appreciate your comment and subscription. It's nice to hear of a clinician focused on perfecting their craft even after 32 years. Keep it up!

  • @psychotropy101
    @psychotropy101 Год назад +14

    Thank you for distilling these exercises is such a succinct and easy to understand format! 🙏🏽

  • @dmitrijsmohoviks1567
    @dmitrijsmohoviks1567 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the analysis. It's always great to have specialist advice. 👨‍⚕️👍

  • @dantecortez2856
    @dantecortez2856 3 года назад +12

    Thanks I’ve been doing Bens protocol and I still find your video helpful.

  • @warriorz23
    @warriorz23 Год назад +8

    Love KOTG. I just started doing his exercises. Im 44 and I can feel the difference already. I thought I was doomed to a life with bad knees. Im hopeful like never before! Im on the way to the gym now!

  • @dancingkokonut
    @dancingkokonut 2 года назад

    Thanks Tim! This was an awesome breakdown of the KOTG movements. Much appreciated.

  • @ellenbritto
    @ellenbritto 3 года назад +1

    This video was so useful. Nicely explained and it’s always good to get a view from someone who isn’t biased in selling their own program. Thank you!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +1

      I appreciate that! Thanks for the comment. I am currently doing his program and plan to do a part 2 soon so be sure to subscribe 😀

  • @endtimesthoughts7114
    @endtimesthoughts7114 3 года назад +5

    Great video. Reviewing while performing, solid idea. And you share solid progression ideas. Thanks

  • @jrwinsagain8
    @jrwinsagain8 2 года назад +7

    Thank you for making this! With any huge interest event it’s hard to get a respectable entity to separate the fact from fiction, and you do a great job of doing that.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад +3

      I appreciate that! The fitness space is littered with nonsense. Ben is quite legitimate. Thanks for commenting and glad you enjoyed. Check out my channel for other reviews and topics related to pain, fitness, and performance

  • @basslinger
    @basslinger 11 дней назад

    Your nordic curl improv set up is gold, thanks!

  • @drshayne5129
    @drshayne5129 2 года назад +4

    I am a Physiatrist in Raleigh-Durham. This video is excellent and absolutely essential. Thank you so much! So very helpful.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад

      Glad you found it to be valuable. Thanks for commenting!

  • @amaarmenteros1594
    @amaarmenteros1594 3 года назад +12

    I love the knee over toes guy; however, I love love love how relatable your video is for me to follow.

  • @tmac638
    @tmac638 Год назад +2

    I loved how you shared everything without the equipment, and the knowledge. ❤

  • @jordantexas
    @jordantexas 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video and tips! I'll be integrating these tips right away.

  • @kvasko2
    @kvasko2 3 года назад +51

    Thank you for sharing. It was great to have somebody walk through and show each of the exercises Knees Over Toes Guy has been talking about.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +2

      Glad it was helpful! Let me know anything else you'd like to see me review.

    • @theonlyjoedtamayo
      @theonlyjoedtamayo 3 года назад

      @@MovementProjectPT If you can pls review as to how this will not be detrimental to knees, though I know this is effective. How many times in a week to be done etc. Great content and workout from you both.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +4

      @@theonlyjoedtamayo Thank you! 2x/week would be good to start. His program goes into some pretty high rep ranges but they don't let you progress without you sending in a video of your form.

    • @theonlyjoedtamayo
      @theonlyjoedtamayo 3 года назад

      @@MovementProjectPT Thank you for this! Great channel.💯👌🏼

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +2

      @@theonlyjoedtamayo Appreciate you!

  • @samirsharma6312
    @samirsharma6312 2 года назад +5

    Excellent video. I really respect the way doc here gives credit to Ben. Just the way it should be to have a healthy community. Excellent, patient explanation.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад

      I appreciate your comment. Gotta give credit where credit is due. Ben is spreading a needed message!

  • @Lalalalalelo
    @Lalalalalelo 3 года назад +2

    omg ive been looking for a creative and simple solution to the nordic exercise. thank you so much!

  • @ollieholden333
    @ollieholden333 6 месяцев назад +6

    The amount of respect all these legit guys have for Ben is insane

  • @scottvrosenfeld
    @scottvrosenfeld 3 года назад +10

    Great stuff man, thank you! And thanks for giving him credit and being humble and giving him his due credit, unfortunately it's rare now a days...

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +6

      He deserves it! He is spreading the message I am so desperate to share. Current model to treat pain is awful! Thanks for the comment

  • @FrancisLCorro
    @FrancisLCorro 3 года назад +3

    Amazing review. The context of his explanations were easily digestible and I’d enjoy hearing more. Thank you!

  • @HeroicMapPack
    @HeroicMapPack 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for explaining the movements so well!

  • @borlanderobertson5666
    @borlanderobertson5666 11 месяцев назад

    This is great content thank you for taking the time to make this❤

  • @ac4185
    @ac4185 2 года назад +38

    Amazing what being observant can do. This guy basically looked are the moments involved in jumping and decided to work on them. Amazingly, he unlocked a cure to most people's knee pain. Proves the saying, "Use it or lose it"

    • @Siberius-
      @Siberius- Год назад +5

      These things have already been around for a long time, but the gaining awareness is good.

  • @LesterRobinBPe
    @LesterRobinBPe 3 года назад +30

    that sheet with knots was genius ive been scouring google since last year for ways how to do nordic hamstring curls at home!!!!

  • @geronimoflyingfree
    @geronimoflyingfree 17 дней назад

    this has been really helpful and hands on ,thank you!😊

  • @laney1126
    @laney1126 Год назад

    This is so excellent! Thank you for the demonstrations with household items!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting and watching!

  • @alexishodgson7624
    @alexishodgson7624 2 года назад +3

    I need to hear this from a physical therapist! Thank you so much for going through all of these. I have had a hip replacement and have severe imbalance between my legs, tight hips, tight knees, and super tight ankles. I can't thank you enough to go over this and share your experience with Ben's routines! Thank you!!!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад

      You're so welcome! Glad you found it helpful. Be sure to regress the exercises appropriately with the hip replacement. Especially the knees over toes split squat.

    • @alexishodgson7624
      @alexishodgson7624 2 года назад

      @@MovementProjectPT yes! Absolutely. It'll be a while before I'll be able to even attempt to do that one too. Thanks again

  • @johnkmoughan
    @johnkmoughan 3 года назад +5

    Congratulations on 1K subs!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! You were probably my first subscriber besides my kids haha. I'll send you a t-shirt if I ever make them

  • @donnieji4825
    @donnieji4825 2 года назад +2

    Fantastic review of a man that has personally changed and added to my practice as a yoga therapist

  • @arieldelgadillo4674
    @arieldelgadillo4674 2 года назад

    one of the best exercise reviews I've seen. It made me subscribe to your channel. Thank you for the great information.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад

      Welcome aboard! I appreciate your kind comment. I'm always looking for ideas. Let me know of any other program or exercise systems you'd like to see reviewed. If I do it, I'll shout you out in the video haha

  • @Dranomoly
    @Dranomoly 3 года назад +16

    That snap change... bravo

  • @t-birdmr.t7980
    @t-birdmr.t7980 Год назад +5

    knees over toes guy is my hero. Been doing most of his exercises with great success

  • @fullertron
    @fullertron 2 года назад

    Great video, thank you. Love the snap of the finger shoe change!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад

      Thanks...Glad you liked it! I was surprised how well it turned out

  • @MovementProjectPT
    @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

    Watch my Review of Knees Over Toes Upper Body Exercises - ruclips.net/video/yHoMS4t0-ZY/видео.html
    Follow me on Twitter - twitter.com/MovemtProjectPT
    Check out Knees over toes full program www.atgonlinecoaching.com/ (this is an unsponsored link, just added here for convenience).

  • @devintompkins9626
    @devintompkins9626 2 года назад +23

    I was 300 now I'm 260lbs obese and been working in routine to include cardio and weight lifting mixed with full body exercises
    Trying these in the video has got me excited for new muscle growth in areas I had not thought of before.
    It's going to be fun

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад +4

      Keep it up Nice Work!!

    • @bluewaters3100
      @bluewaters3100 Год назад +3

      If you can go to a gym that has the sled that Ben uses. Good luck with your new lifestyle!

  • @zanshin720
    @zanshin720 3 года назад +6

    WOW! Thank you so much for the great home workout idea's 🦵🦵👍Legend. Subscribed.

  • @dereli0480
    @dereli0480 Год назад

    Love your approach, getting into the exercises and explaining the patho-/physiology!

  • @MakalaDiggs
    @MakalaDiggs 3 года назад

    Great review!! Loved your little transitions you had!

  • @vladhmch
    @vladhmch 3 года назад +3

    Frankly, I'm glad you didn't get on here and breeze through these exercises. Made it more relatable for those of us who have difficulty with these exercises. But you provided great guidance on how to get these exercises done 👍🏾

  • @iyall08
    @iyall08 3 года назад +4

    Great breakdown from a PT perspective!

  • @jayrobelo9877
    @jayrobelo9877 2 года назад +1

    Thank God for this stuff... I used to have daily knee pain and now with kot exercise and stretches provided have changed my life for the better

  • @pemdechen6300
    @pemdechen6300 3 года назад +1

    Thank you. Excellent run through of exercises.

  • @jeristowell2635
    @jeristowell2635 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for sharing. I am a runner and been dx with OA. Done dry needling, BFR blood flow restriction. Each therapy has helped. Will do these exercises too. I do have a sissy squat bench and it's helped alot. I am 56 years young and will not give up on my passion for trail running.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад

      Keep grinding! It's worth it. Next step would be to have a running gait analysis by a running specialist PT if you have not done so already.

    • @bluewaters3100
      @bluewaters3100 Год назад +1

      It sounds simple but try doing the ten minutes or more a day of backwards walking. It is amazing how effective it is , especially when rehabbing from an injury.

  • @jnm10
    @jnm10 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for putting all the main exercises into one it's hard to find what to do without his program I've been doing some of these training methods to have more mobility,strength,and Explosiveness on my legs and to prevent Injuries as an athlete

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

      Thanks for the comment. I hope they are helping you!

    • @tenzinlekshey9765
      @tenzinlekshey9765 3 года назад +3

      1 goal in the past 6 games, I'm gonna need you to step your shit up buddy if we're gonna win the scudetto.

  • @FinanciallySavvyParent
    @FinanciallySavvyParent 2 года назад

    This is a great review/discussion. Thanks so much!

  • @catedoge3206
    @catedoge3206 3 года назад +1

    I needed this. THANK YOU!

  • @AdamJStoryDC
    @AdamJStoryDC 3 года назад +70

    Nordic Hamstring Curl: The knee goes from a 90 degree bend to 45 degrees before most people "flop" and can't sustain the eccentric contraction. If you were to use a leg curl machine that is flat, (no hip flexion) and isometrically contract the gluteus maximus, the motion is from the top of the hamstring curl to half way down. To the hamstring, does it really matter? The Nordic Hamstring Curl looks really cool, however in your PT practice, are there many that can do a full range of motion? Unless you're dealing with super strong athletes, probably not. For the average person, what's your take on the amount of compression on the kneecap (even though there's a pad) when you're kneeling on the kneecap and eccentrically lowering yourself down? Seems it would be easier for the average person to use a leg curl machine and have an assistant help the weight up so that your knee is bend 90 degrees and then eccentrically lower the weight. You could control the weight (some peoples' body weight is huge). You're not going to get the hits on Instagram or RUclips like you would with a gym ball eccentric or leg curl, but almost every patient that has tried to do a Nordic in my clinic doesn't like the body weight compression on the patella. What are your thoughts?

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +75

      Thank you for the detailed comment and great question! You hit the nail on the head when it comes to working to muscle through its full functional and even anatomical range of motion without irritating the patient. That being said, the largest compressive forces at the PF joint result in conjunction with a quadriceps contraction. Especially contraction that is unchecked in all directions from VL and VM. Since this is a hamstring exercise, the resulting compressive vectors from the quadriceps are slim to none and or the product only of the individual's body weight. Compare that with jogging which is 3-7X Body weight at the PF joint (depending on which study you reference). Furthermore, if you employ a plantarflexed instead of a dorsiflexed ankle, you shift the load to the tibial tuberosity and away from the patella completely. The exercise you describe is great to work the muscle in isolation but it is open chain, primary action. Unless you are sprinting or jumping, the hamstring is rarely used in an open chain with force. My final comment is that working the hamstring in the reverse action is the most beneficial for function. The Nordic will work a neutral to shortened range with knee flexed to 90 and Straight leg dead lift will work the lengthened range with knee at near full extension.
      For maximum gains, ideally all muscles should be trained:
      -Concentrically and Eccentrically
      -Primary and Reverse Action
      -Lengthened and Shortened range
      -Open and Closed chain
      Thanks again and let me know your thoughts!

    • @integritytreecare4794
      @integritytreecare4794 3 года назад +3

      @@MovementProjectPT I was doing the program for awhile and I kind made due with the equipment I have . So I don't think a lot of stuff was ideal , especially the narrow bench I was doing my Nordics on . I think it may of been the reason my knee cap has been hurting a lot for about two or three weeks . I stopped doing the program this week to see if it gets better , I hope it does because I hate not training .

    • @glenbergman9040
      @glenbergman9040 3 года назад +2

      @@MovementProjectPT the takeaway on this comment is that is safest when the ankle is kept in PF position?

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +8

      @@glenbergman9040 If you are having patella pain issues than yes that is correct. Ultimately, your symptoms should be your guide.

    • @HexenStar
      @HexenStar 2 года назад +6

      That's a completely legit claim. I've worked with very wide range of people
      over the years (from the elderly to military / combat fitness) and i have seen
      different people react differently to the Nordic, in terms of patellar pressure.
      It seems nothing to do with the body weight, as i've witnessed slim
      ninja-warrior-obstacle-course dudes - also had complained about that.
      Padding, knee positioning and ankle manipulation helps, (and should be tried)
      but not always eliminate the problem. Even when the difficulty of the exercise
      is reduced.
      On the other hand, i also dealt with 60+ fit guys who did this exercise all the
      way to failure, without any negative side-effects. What i would conclude, is -
      while the exercise is undeniably great, it may not be suitable for everyone out there. Experimentation and attention to your trainees (or patients) should determine when, how hard and if at all. In the end, strengthening the hamstring
      is much higher priority than going after a specific exercise. If it goes well - great, take it, if not - there are other means to work the muscle. That's my take on it.

  • @blondelightning6200
    @blondelightning6200 3 года назад +39

    excellent video! Thanks.... Love this "new" concept of "knees over toes" ...try walking up the stairs without doing this, you can't! It's as natural as breathing. Don't limit yourself, move yourself! Movement is the key to life!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +13

      Exactly! Couldn't agree more. It is brilliant marketing and delivery by Ben. Knees over toes is a problem when that is the only way your body knows how to move (usually due to posterior hip weakness). When that happens, you beat the heck out of your patellofemoral joints, patellar tendons, etc. Appreciate the comment!

  • @tazrockymuff
    @tazrockymuff 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for this honest review!! I heard about this program today and now I'm going to check it out.

  • @Mike-jn5gc
    @Mike-jn5gc Год назад

    Thanks for taking major components of KOTG in a concise easily understandable demonstration of each exercise
    Was the motivation I needed to start actively bulletproofing my damaged midiscus .

  • @iang2868
    @iang2868 3 года назад +12

    Thanks for the reassurance in his program
    I’m definitely going in vest in monkey foot

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +5

      You'll love it. His next step is to add some additional exercises for frontal (sideways movements) and transverse (rotary movements) plane.

    • @mohamedorayith4626
      @mohamedorayith4626 3 года назад

      Reassurance?
      So Ben's story as well as his 1000+ cases is not enough to reassure you?

    • @fhornet3123
      @fhornet3123 3 года назад +15

      @@mohamedorayith4626 every scammer guru has "1000 testimonies". Don't fault someone for being skeptical

  • @Smuddpie
    @Smuddpie 3 года назад +26

    I’ve never used a Monkey Foot, but a few years ago when I was working on my pistol squat I unvented the same exercise by putting my foot through a kettlebell loop. Get some tib strengthening that way as well. It definitely helped.

  • @judokapavel
    @judokapavel 2 года назад +2

    The door trick is simply genius! Thank you sir!

  • @User_ML907
    @User_ML907 3 года назад

    Thanks for breaking it down with great explanation of risk. Liked and subscribed.

  • @tuggspeedmen2734
    @tuggspeedmen2734 3 года назад +18

    Excited to see how strong you get in the next 24 months good luck doc

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +15

      Maybe I’ll be able to dunk for the first time 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @husker16
      @husker16 3 года назад +2

      @@MovementProjectPT how old are you?

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +3

      @@husker16 41

    • @chongyaolim3011
      @chongyaolim3011 3 года назад +8

      @@MovementProjectPT 🤣🤣🤣 U DEFINITELY CAN!! WE BELIEVE IN U

  • @doug853
    @doug853 3 года назад +14

    Another option for hip flexors - place a foot through the handle of a kettlebell. That will isometrically strengthen the tibialis anterior as well. PTA here with the same mission. Keep up the good work!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +4

      True. It just depends on how heavy you want to load the Hip flexors because TA will fatigue before Psoas in that instance.
      Thanks for the comment!

    • @jessedegroot4486
      @jessedegroot4486 3 года назад

      Thanks for the tip!

  • @afailable
    @afailable 3 года назад +1

    The sheet with the knots is such a great idea... Thanks for this

  • @skashani6
    @skashani6 3 года назад

    Great informative video. Great job Doc! Subbed after watching this

  • @haixun1301
    @haixun1301 3 года назад +7

    19:25 that transition is CLEAN

  • @fionacole9791
    @fionacole9791 2 года назад +18

    I had knee pain for the past 6+ weeks. I recently started doing these workouts a couple times a week and my knee pain is almost gone 😊

  • @letakenney4287
    @letakenney4287 2 года назад

    Thank you! Like all the work around, improvising!!!

  • @markgary2813
    @markgary2813 3 года назад

    Good for you getting on here and showing people how to do it

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

      Thank you. More to follow tomorrow as I review KOT upper body exercises.

  • @firagabird
    @firagabird 3 года назад +11

    Great review, especially your technical breakdown of which muscles each exercise works. Among all of them, which would you consider ideal for correcting an imbalance of weak VMOs to correct patellar tracking issues?

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +2

      As I mentioned in video (11:10-12:25), you cannot selectively recruit the VMO. Research and clinical experience shows us that patellar tracking issues are due to the femur's position (patellar groove) and not the patella itself. If you are having tracking issues, focusing on control of hip rotation to impact the femur is most critical.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +2

      To answer your questions, slantboard squat and KOT split squat would be best of these exercises but with a careful focus on alignment of your femur when doing so. Be sure the knee is not angling inward. Good rule of thumb is to keep knee caps inline with the 5th toes or wider.

    • @firagabird
      @firagabird 3 года назад

      @@MovementProjectPT Thanks for the detailed reply! The note on femur angle is interesting. I naturally have a bit wider stance (and feet angled a bit out) from what seems to be anatomical reasons. Would prefer the slantboard squat (bilateral > uni for time-efficient strength training), though your note at 7:34 mentioned avoiding going beyond 60 degrees flexion? Doing a squat with thighs parallel to ground would take the knee flexion to ~130 degrees on the board/heels on plates.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +1

      @@firagabird You are correct about the angle. The research talks about passing 60 degrees on a slantboard regarding patella femoral pressure. If you are doing a traditional squat, passing 60 is far less of a problem. Ben's info is great for patellar tendinitis but if you have tracking issues and patellofemoral joint pain you really must master the classic hip dominant (knees behind toes) squat first. Then, you can progress to this program.

    • @firagabird
      @firagabird 3 года назад +1

      @@MovementProjectPT by classic/knees behind toes squat, are you referring to the low bar back squat? As a high bar lifter that's also working on ankle mobility, I've considered trying low bar. If so, what's a good indication that my quads/knees are strong enough to handle the load of high bar squats, as well as this program?

  • @Rakjkd
    @Rakjkd 3 года назад +5

    Ben Patrick has created a revaluation for knees

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +4

      He is spreading the message to the masses - Movement is the best (and most cost effective) Medicine! Hoping I can grow enough to show that this doesn't stop at the knees. Shoulders, elbows, neck, back, headaches, foot and heel pain....majority of all musculoskeletal conditions are movement related!

    • @inrptn
      @inrptn 3 года назад +1

      @@MovementProjectPT looking forward to talks and techniques for elbows!

  • @raifaustino
    @raifaustino 3 года назад +1

    Towel under the door tip was a game changer!! Thanks for sharing

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

      Glad it was helpful! Check out my video for a Nordic hack -
      ruclips.net/video/aQUMd9pClNU/видео.html

  • @Peoplespilates
    @Peoplespilates 2 года назад

    Thank you! That Nordic curl towel trick is gold!! And the pillows!!Knee over toe guy is awesome!

  • @davidwestwood2457
    @davidwestwood2457 3 года назад +4

    Great video! I really like how you explain the rationale behind the slant board squats and sissy squats. In his program (which I bought for a month out of sheer curiosity), he has KOT step ups and "Patrick" steps, which seem like a unilateral sissy squat. I was really wondering whether this was good for the knee in terms of loading the patellar tendon. After watching your video a couple times, it sounds like it is good because it puts a load on it and causes strengthening? Is the load on the patellar tendon good for tendonitis because it puts stress on it and increases blood flow? But can doing this movement be the cause tendonitis? My knees are fine, I just want to keep them that way and do anything that would be good to prevent knee issues in the future. (You know, stay ahead of the curve). Thanks in advance

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +6

      Appreciate the thoughtful comment!If you do not have knee pain, I would worry less about loading the patellar tendon and instead focus on building every joint's ability to withstand load in many positions. Ben's program is great but it does miss a few pieces namely lateral and transverse plane movements to help in injury prevention. Yes the decline squat puts more load (think of it as a stimulus for growth/adaptation) on the tendon with less joint forces compared to the traditional squat. Also, eccentric and isometric activities (especially long duration isometric) provide stimulus for adaptation without a corresponding joint shear force. They tend to be more tolerated in general. There are also things happening at the cellular level during these types of exercises that can contribute to the healing process (collagen adaptation, etc) Sorry if that was too in depth. Hope it helped! Keep up the good work

    • @davidwestwood2457
      @davidwestwood2457 3 года назад

      @@MovementProjectPT Thanks for the reply! I like what you said about building every joint's ability to withstand load in many positions. It sounds like lateral and drop step lunges (maybe with an isometric hold at the bottom) could be pretty good. I really like your channel and made sure to subscribe. Thanks again!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +3

      @@davidwestwood2457 I really appreciate your comments! A big piece that so many miss is speed of movements. Strength is amazing but so is reactivity and quickness. Adding 1-2 sessions per week for agility and quickness especially with lateral moves can be a game changer. Happy training!

  • @jjaycallejas
    @jjaycallejas 3 года назад +7

    Another DIY curl solution is a belt (dip belt, Nordic strap, etc), some cushion, and a bench! I have a drywall bench and that’s what I use!
    Alternatively, I jerririgged a “monkey foot” with some a quick release buckle and a kettlebell!
    All these exercises are crucial imo! I’ve been dealing with lots of knee pain for a few years and it’s incredible how much I’ve improved over the past year incorporating all of these exercises into my daily routine.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

      Thanks for the detailed comment! Glad you have made so much improvement by focusing on the movement and steering clear of meds and surgery!

  • @maxtradesofficial
    @maxtradesofficial Год назад

    I have been really curious about the KOTG, this video is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  Год назад

      Glad I could help! Let me know if you have any questions or other programs you'd like to see reviewed

  • @VinylUnboxings
    @VinylUnboxings 3 года назад

    Thank you for including the references!

  • @Calupp
    @Calupp 3 года назад +3

    This is the type of content the creators of RUclips were hoping for when they made the technology

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

      Wow, appreciate that comment! Let me know anything you'd like to see in future videos!

  • @joaquincortada1483
    @joaquincortada1483 3 года назад +27

    Kettle bells work pretty good for tib raises.

    • @incorectulpolitic
      @incorectulpolitic 3 года назад +1

      how

    • @joaquincortada1483
      @joaquincortada1483 3 года назад +1

      @@incorectulpolitic slide your foot throw the opening. I have 1 type of kettle where both of my feet barely fit

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +5

      If you wrap the floss band around the kettle grip, it will be less likely to slide down the foot. Good Luck!

    • @integritytreecare4794
      @integritytreecare4794 3 года назад

      Thats what i been using as well

    • @TommyStarwind
      @TommyStarwind 3 года назад

      @@incorectulpolitic A stick. 18-24 inches long an inch or so thick. Thick enough to hold the weight you're using without bending(25% KOTG recommends I believe). Make it perpendicular to the handle Then while sitting on a bench or a sofa, you should be able to raise your toes up and down. Do it slowly until you're used to the movement. You may need to wear shoes and have a towel for comfort.

  • @in2caffeine
    @in2caffeine 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for summarizing some of the exercises!

  • @CraigEggleton
    @CraigEggleton 2 года назад

    Great stuff!! Appreciate you validating the other guy.

  • @jenheath9382
    @jenheath9382 3 года назад +3

    I imagine if you put an exercise band over the top of your door with the sheet under the bottom, it could help you ease into the exercise by taking off some of your upper body weight so you can maintain proper form through the range of motion.

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

      Great minds think alike! Check out my video from yesterday: Can't Do a Nordic Hamstring Curl? Do this! (Knees Over Toes Exercise)

    • @loadedmango387
      @loadedmango387 3 года назад

      trx straps work well to assist during this and the full kneeling lean back one works well with a row

  • @99Gara99
    @99Gara99 3 года назад +6

    Somehow I have the feeling that the first time I try this I'm gonna burst my knee

    • @patriciabowler
      @patriciabowler 3 года назад +2

      I thought the same! I'm a former Group Ex instructor - overuse issues with one bum knee and I thought I'd have to live with this pain for the rest of my life. I happened upon the KOT guy and after two (only two) days of doing his exercises, my knee pain is 90% gone and feels stronger. I cannot do the exercises like Ben can but it's a start and has given me confidence for the future!

    • @99Gara99
      @99Gara99 3 года назад

      @@patriciabowler slow but steady progress is the key. I'm not worried doing what he does at this point. His knee has been building strength and flexibility for years...

  • @2033971
    @2033971 3 года назад +1

    Wonderful video! TY for that!!

  • @papafoster16
    @papafoster16 3 года назад

    Much Appreciated Review!!!

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад

      Glad it was helpful! I love Ben's energy and passion for focusing on movements and not surgery!

  • @Kwildcat13
    @Kwildcat13 3 года назад +4

    I wish I could snap and change my footwear 🙌

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  3 года назад +4

      Yes! The first person that commented on my rookie editing trick that I was so proud of

  • @marshallhobbs46
    @marshallhobbs46 2 года назад

    I loved how talked about how stretching makes things work because of stretch-reflex!🔥

    • @MovementProjectPT
      @MovementProjectPT  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Helps to understand the basics of why we do what we do

  • @tianwatskree
    @tianwatskree 2 года назад

    Thanks for the help man!

  • @daddyboy1814
    @daddyboy1814 3 года назад

    Great job explaining Ben's work. God bless.