Yeah no it didn't... hifi rush failed on gamepass then spectacularly failed on Playstation... Tango wasn't a good studio and never made a single financially successful game
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@@Lequint-Dickey_mining_co Hi-Fi Rush is an amazing game, that not enough people played....
I am worried that despite all the high praise and critics, this game has very low player count and did not engage enough people on Game Pass. People like to talk about the game but unsure it got players engaged. Also I don't think this means that Hi-Fi Rush is necessarily dead... One of their other studios could pick it up.
@@caderik1386I don’t think it did that well for a few reasons. First it’s a rhythm. Game those games aren’t that popular and Xbox just shadow dropped it without saying anything
Not true, he started giving the lead to the younger generation way back from The Evil Within 2 and onwards. So I would assume he prepared his departure well in advance, passing his knowledge and making sure his successors are in the right place. If I remember correctly there was some kind of studio tour on the Tango youtube channel giving some insight into all of that.
@@patriciamorgan2521 Should't it be Microsofts job to move the director to the producer role when the producer is about to leave? Whoever stands above Shinji Mikami is the one responsible for moving a new person to that leadership role. The director can't promote himself.
A leader can leave the company and it be just fine. Sure you have a bit of a point where you gotta figure things out but It can work if the company was sound.
The problem of XBOX is that outside of The United States XBOX is not a strong brand and never was, the most popular brands in the World still are Nintendo and Playstation, there's a minority of players that like XBOX outside of The United States, and i don't know if they have a solution for this
It would have helped if they had continued shipping physical games to regions that buy majority physical like East Asia. I see loads of old Xbox 360 games in the used game markets here but anything Xbox1 and forward, it doesn’t look like they shipped any games here at all. In comparison, the Switch absolutely dominated the market here is South Korea without a functioning eshop for a while. I don’t know why Xbox gambled so heavily against physical games way before the markets were ready. It’s not like they needed to penny pinch.
I agree with RGT if I were xbox - I honestly would stop doing interviews. Xbox is part of a multi trillion dollar company - they are not your friends. None of the big gaming companies are. Everyone keeps asking why did they shut Tango down? The Answer is SIMPLE - they didn't make enough money (sales/gamepass subscriptions).
@@nightruler666 I played HB2 - I enjoyed it even with it's brief duration. But to be honest, 7 years? ... Ninja Theory employees must have taken a few years vacation during covid on M$s dime. If it was 3-4 hours longer and had better combat it would have been amazing.
Agree - and two possibilities: 1) they were too expensive to operate 2) their games were not generating enough player engagement and revenue. Journalists recommend hifi rush but players play Cod and Fortnite instead
Upper managements way of punishing lower management is making them do stuff like this. Microsoft was cracking the whip, that's what happened to Tango and Arcane Austin
we don't know the details guys .. Booty's rational has some merit Shinji Mikami (Founder) left, Ikumi Nakamura left (Evil within Director) .. we have no idea the quality of the people left over. Johanes may not be CEO\CCO quality material.
We have an idea, they're the ones who made HiFi Rush, which, ironically, is the only successful game of the company. The Shiniji Mikami/Ikumi Nakamura games were never successful.
whatever they say it´s all pr speech. it will have a been a culture issue + costs + maintenance and the fact that xbox basically gave up on the asian market
As far as I remember John Johanas was the lead on Evil Within 2 and Hi-Fi Rush. Perfectly qualifies him for stepping in the shoes of Shinji Mikami as his successor if you ask me. It's so sad that you have a legend in the gaming world growing this new generation of game creators and the moment they are ready take the scepter the higher ups just shut everything down. Don't you want the seniors passing all their knowledge to the younger generation so that you will keep having all these great games in the future even after the seniors retired?
I actually understand Xbox decision here. I do not agree with RGT on this one. Look at Capcom for example. Where is the Megaman franchise after Kenji Inafune left? Do you all remembered that? He was working on several Megaman games that we were all excited for! Like Megaman Legends 3 for the 3DS or Megaman World and even a sequel for Megaman Powerup! What Capcom do back then? They literately cancel all of the games! Their decision was simple instead of allowing someone else to continue the franchise and ruin it they decided it was better to move on. Another example, look at what happened to Metal Gear after Kojima left? Again the same situation. So it seems to me, that his leadership to you might not sound like a big deal but apparently it was and he was the real brains behind the operations of a pretty small studio by the way. So it sounds like Microsoft made the decision that is was better to move on that put something out there that was not going to stick or create another fiasco like Redfall for example. Which could explained why they did not allow Hi-Rush 2 development to move forward without him. They simply did not have any faith that the game was going to turn up good without his leadership.
You would be right if Mikami had anything to do with HiFi Rush, but he didn't. HiFi Rush wasn't one of his projects. The people who made HFR were still all in the studio.
How would you or RGT know how much input he had or not? Consider Nintendo and Shigeru Miyamoto. Miyamoto has not directed a Zelda or Mario game in over 20 years. Those franchises have been taken over by Eiji Aonuma and Takashi Tezuka, respectively. So, officially, Miyamoto has not been directly involved in these franchises. However, Eiji Aonuma has mentioned in interviews that, although Miyamoto is not directly involved, he still runs many of his ideas by him and receives feedback and guidance. The same has been said by Masahiro Sakurai and, more recently, by Davide Soliani. The point I'm making is that we have no idea how involved he was or not. My example shows that there is often much more involvement from upper management in these companies than you might think, especially in Japanese developers like Tango.
Yes it really sucks about this. It's sad. But on the bright side on my opinion. The game is getting a physical with LRG. I recently read a article on it and it was confirmed to still be happening. So I'm excited about that and can't wait to order it.
I agree with the comment “Matt talking out his booty”. The evil with in to me was a rival to Resident evil!! One was the sh**!!! Part 2 was still good!!!! 🤦🏼♂️ major F*** up on Xbox for tango
@RGT-85: It sounds to me like they ARE taking ownership of their decision, which was to hire Shinji Mikami via purchasing his company. It seems pretty clear that they felt the company had lost their desired value once he left. Why are we acting like this was a mistake? They know what they’re doing. Agree with it or not, only time will tell if their decision was wise.
I mean if the creator leaves and take a bunch of the devs to his new studio what do ppl expect .. I guess ppl wanted them to waste money on hiring a bunch of devs just for them to never be able to capture that magic Shinji Mikami brings in.
I plan on getting a pc in the next couple months but what would I do with my poor Xbox? I put quite a bit of dedication into this machine. I am using geforce now to tide me over until I get that pc but should I drop the pc game pass with it? Xbox is apparently confusing me the most here. It will take a bit to recover from that. Is he making up thing's to piss people off? Sheesh. Phil Spencer should've answered that question. I think his mannerism would come acrossed a bit easier.
Xbox has had a really good 2024? They released 1 game in May and that was a 5 hour walking simulator. Like half the year is over already. Their hardware sales completely tanked this year when the Multiplattform rumors spread and more games are skipping Xbox and while their showcase was good, everything was 2025 I would argue this was one of the worst years they ever had (they didn’t have any game in 2022, but 2022 didn’t kill the brand like 2024 did )
It’s not dumb at all when you are trying to save money. The bottom line is not enough people bought the games regardless how much RUclipsrs whine on about it. Plus the head of the company departed so that put them at risk obviously. It’s not rocket science to realise that an at risk studio is a huge liability. It’s just weird when hardly any RUclipsrs bang on about Sony closing studios in the same way as when they choose to attack Microsoft. (This is not aimed at you specifically either and more just a general observation). All of this could have waited anyway. Let people be on a high about Xbox winning the showcases. Even IGN said it was over 70 percent in favour of Xbox which is rather massive for their audience being so Pro PlayStation. For the longest time that I can remember PlayStation is suddenly just totally irrelevant now with Nintendo wiping the floor with them as well with their showing. It’s no surprise to me why Nintendo has delayed the Switch 2 anyway as why bother when the current one outsells everything else.
Exactly. None of the 4 games Tango made as much as fans love them were financial successes. Evil Within 1 did ok. But Evil Within 2 barely cracked 200000 sales. Like 1/4th what the first did. & Ghostwire & Hi Fi sales wise were flops & remember Ghostwire was exclusive for a year to PS5.
That is a good point you made too about a Ghostwire Tokyo. I quite liked most of their games too personally. Apart from Evil Within 1 on Xbox as it ran poorly, looked soupy and was never enhanced for Xbox One X sadly. Xbox has some great games but they never enhance them for newer consoles which I think is a shame. Not that Sony is really any better as despite repeated requests they refuse to even update Bloodborne to run at 60 fps on PS5. If anything I think Arcane Austin were dealt a more savage blow as they were forced into making a mp game which was way outside their wheelhouse yet they still tried to make it compelling. I don’t hate the game as much as some seem to as it really has such promising elements that it is a shame it will never be feature or story complete.
How is Playstation totally irrelevant? PlayStation is king of sales and has a lot of successful franchises. In what reality do you live in? Also, HiFi rush was successful, they had a golden goose and they shut it down, typical Microsoft.
Thanks to the noncomplete cause being gone hopefully these companies think twice before throwing away their employees like trash. Because those same employees COULD work for their competitors. At least that's the hope
HonestlyXbox should have tried to get Hideki Kamiya, former Platinum Games director. He already expressed interest in joining Xbox back when he was with Platinum and he left the company almost a year ago I mean, sure the guy screwed Xbox over with Scalebound but at least now if he worked at Xbox then you don't have to woert about misappropriation of fund for projects on competitor plarforms
you said that people leave companies all the time. Same applies for studios, business decisions are made all the time. Some times studios need to be closed to maintain growth. If future projects do not ensure bright future, they get closed.
I liked the show and there's plenty I'm looking forward to, but if a show with barely any release dates means they've had a good year then the standards are extremely low. The only game they've released (if you can call it that) is Hellblade 2? I want Xbox to do well but those can't be the standards for a good year lol
"Xbox have a good year so far"....what are you talking about RGT? You mean, the summer presentation? The Xbox brand has been on the toilet since the launch of Xbox One, including this year.
This "thing looming over Xbox's head " is called "The Cloud " They made is clear during the pre launch of the Xbox One; that this was their goal and that they wanted EVERYTHING to be in the cloud I'm the future; which is why the Xbox One was going to have DRM that required you to be online at all times, to authenticate your account and ownership of the games you bought. That was supposed to get peoole used to THE CLOUD until everyone was canceling their Xbox one Pre Orders, and they removed the DRM; but their plans never changed, as they never made any statement to recant what Major Nelson said. Again, look up the Angry Joe and Major Nelson interview. I stopped trusting these fools since that Xbox One fiasco and it baffles me why people overlooked this and kept enabling them to be where they are today. They almost killed the gaming industry, if we being honest.
I disagree on this one... From all the Xbox comments: Tango Gameworks was too expensive to run, maybe no good sales on Ghostwire Tokyo, and that game was prob very expensive. Leadership might be more critical for US company to operate studio in Japan, finding a leader (assume needs to be Japanese) is never easy esp for a company that only has subsidiary there and many ppl do not have fluent English. From all the game studio disasters studios, a good leader is a rare gem. Plus we don't know any details on Shinji Mikami, he could have crafted 99% of the game and was just in QA after he left.
I believe that this issue has transcended beyond the grasp of XBox. I believe it is Microsoft leadership taking control of XBox. The CEO, during the FTC trial, stated he would like to have more games on other platforms, so this is what I believe is going on with the constant change in their messaging.
I go back and forth with this one. It was a great game, but I probably wouldn't have bought it had it not been on Game Pass. Game Pass both elevated it to popularity and was its downfall.
Hi FI Rush was able to catch into the JGR JSRF vibe. Is a huge and pointless shame the studio shut down, at least they went out with a bang. Since it doesn't make logical sense, I suspect it had to do with office politics.
He definitely needs to go. But if we use logic Tango was shut down because xbox didn't want to flip the bill for Tango. They saw the pipe line of games and Tango and arkane had nothing in full production, so instead of waiting 5+ years on a new game, they cut cost by shutting them down. Its very stupid because its not Tangos fault that they shipped GhostWire on ps5 in 2022, then Ghostwire and HiFi on xbox in 2023. Its comes down to saving money over talent.
Ninja Theory did have a change in leadership. So I would be very worried if I were them. Also, Matt Booty and Phil Spencer wouldn't know a good game to save their lives.
I'm not sure why everyone is clutching pearls here. Microsoft is being Microsoft. They have a long and tenured history of doing this. Why did you think just because it's video games, they would change? A tiger can't change it's stripes.
Greed is going to tank xbox. They need to get rid of gamepass! Realistically wanting people to subscribe to playing games for x amount a month vs them purchasing games and inheritantly the system to play certain games is a lose lose formula. They get a constant subscribtuob amount from subscribers, but developers dont get the profits from years of purchases, the system doesnt get life breathed into it and eventually customer base shrinks. So.... at this point, gamepass is poisoning xbox with its shortsided greed.
Hi-fi Rush was made by the folks who took over after Shinji left, he wasn't as involved in the development, just kinda left them to do their thing. All that talent wasted.
Not deffending them but they can do whatever they want with their company whitout our permission or giving us any explanation. It suck people get fired but sadly thats the world we are living in.
Not much more to say RGT called this one like it looks. Video went on a bit to long for this though. Don't get the business model... you want to make money off Xbox games they should have limited access or portion of the game on them while in game pass and be sold separately. 3rd party people should pay to get on game pass and then you pay them or game download they get. They get more then the upfront cost and they make money. The way Xbox is operating all their studios will fail by the video game metric standards so you better enjoy the brief return of Rare.
Even though Xbox had more promising titles in the showcase, I can’t accept it being better than the others simply because half the showcase was for 2025 releases. Plus I feel Xbox has had the most controversy this year from a business standpoint
Sorry to say but that makes sense cause he was the face of tango and Shenji never named his successor that's worth a damn. Still does not excuse the layoffs.
This one sounds like there's a lot more to the story. It must have gotten pretty political. Why did he quit seems to be key. How did it affect the relationship and culture. You're right about this, why share now. They had a great showcase, I think they won not E3. They should leave deadbodies lye and keep marching.
Idk, Xbox obviously did not have any issue with Rod Fergusson leaving The Coalition and bailing on Gears to make Diablo at Blizzard. They replaced him. Or you know, Bungie moved on from Halo but they keep trying to replicate that magic, lol. I think the real story is that without being able to sell horror games with the Mikami named attached to them, Tango had no value to Xbox.
Tango game works name should have been Mikami productions all this time. Imagine you Buy Kojima productions and as soon as the publish their First succesful game ever Kojima leaves. Mikami was the face of the company anf the only reason Bethesda didnt mind all the 3 games on the company being sales flops since His name gave Prestige
I dont care, what you think or say RGT, just like you dont care about my opinion. But still, I will like this video because you are the king of xbox youtube
Its really.not that dumb, i think THE BOOTY, gave the best answer he could without straight up disrespecting Tango studio. And tbh we need to just move forward. Its kinda just ridiculous at this point. Sony has shut down well over a dozen studios over the years. These closures recently were the first sures in over 8 years. I get it sucks... but jesus how long are we going to do this. And please no one respond, im not goinf reply.
The real reason for the shut down: they would be spending a few million to make a hi fi rush sequel and Xbox layed them off to save money MATT A$$: THE JOKES WRITE THEMSELVES😂
Hi-Fi Rush had so much potential as a franchise and to see squandered like this is aweful! RIP Tango Gameworks
Yeah no it didn't... hifi rush failed on gamepass then spectacularly failed on Playstation... Tango wasn't a good studio and never made a single financially successful game
@@Lequint-Dickey_mining_co Hi-Fi Rush is an amazing game, that not enough people played....
I am worried that despite all the high praise and critics, this game has very low player count and did not engage enough people on Game Pass. People like to talk about the game but unsure it got players engaged. Also I don't think this means that Hi-Fi Rush is necessarily dead... One of their other studios could pick it up.
@@Lequint-Dickey_mining_co How did it fail when it won awards!!?? It would have been even more successful if it wasn't on game pass.
@@caderik1386I don’t think it did that well for a few reasons. First it’s a rhythm. Game those games aren’t that popular and Xbox just shadow dropped it without saying anything
Just another casualty in a senseless war of corporate greed.
You should never trust any promise made by a corporation; especially if it's made by a representative that can later be overruled by a higher up.
Once Shinji left the writing was on the wall for Tango.
Not true, he started giving the lead to the younger generation way back from The Evil Within 2 and onwards. So I would assume he prepared his departure well in advance, passing his knowledge and making sure his successors are in the right place. If I remember correctly there was some kind of studio tour on the Tango youtube channel giving some insight into all of that.
@@caleb36 Then why didn't they announce who his successor would be before he left? Since they planned on him leaving 🤔
@@patriciamorgan2521 Should't it be Microsofts job to move the director to the producer role when the producer is about to leave? Whoever stands above Shinji Mikami is the one responsible for moving a new person to that leadership role. The director can't promote himself.
A leader can leave the company and it be just fine. Sure you have a bit of a point where you gotta figure things out but It can work if the company was sound.
@@caleb36 yeah im sure there is no difference at all
The problem of XBOX is that outside of The United States XBOX is not a strong brand and never was, the most popular brands in the World still are Nintendo and Playstation, there's a minority of players that like XBOX outside of The United States, and i don't know if they have a solution for this
Well, it sucks to be outside of the US. Go trump.
It would have helped if they had continued shipping physical games to regions that buy majority physical like East Asia. I see loads of old Xbox 360 games in the used game markets here but anything Xbox1 and forward, it doesn’t look like they shipped any games here at all. In comparison, the Switch absolutely dominated the market here is South Korea without a functioning eshop for a while. I don’t know why Xbox gambled so heavily against physical games way before the markets were ready. It’s not like they needed to penny pinch.
The Xbox360 was strong in Europe _and_ in Japan too, before Microsoft pulled a Sony and made it hard for anime games to be published on the 360.
@@fishingmule3266 Physical games still dominate in Europe too.
That was the original reason why they bought this studio and let me guess that it did not have any impact on their sales in Japan.
I agree with RGT if I were xbox - I honestly would stop doing interviews. Xbox is part of a multi trillion dollar company - they are not your friends. None of the big gaming companies are. Everyone keeps asking why did they shut Tango down? The Answer is SIMPLE - they didn't make enough money (sales/gamepass subscriptions).
what is crazy is that even if they have the answer they still will try and belittle xbox cause they are shills for Sony.
Are they going shutdown ninja theory if hellblade II doesn't make money?
@@nightruler666 I played HB2 - I enjoyed it even with it's brief duration.
But to be honest, 7 years? ... Ninja Theory employees must have taken a few years vacation during covid on M$s dime.
If it was 3-4 hours longer and had better combat it would have been amazing.
Agree - and two possibilities: 1) they were too expensive to operate 2) their games were not generating enough player engagement and revenue. Journalists recommend hifi rush but players play Cod and Fortnite instead
@@nightruler666 I'm surprised they haven't shut them down already
Upper managements way of punishing lower management is making them do stuff like this. Microsoft was cracking the whip, that's what happened to Tango and Arcane Austin
we don't know the details guys .. Booty's rational has some merit Shinji Mikami (Founder) left, Ikumi Nakamura left (Evil within Director) .. we have no idea the quality of the people left over. Johanes may not be CEO\CCO quality material.
agree and despite all the great reviews, maybe nobody was playing hifi rush - which I wouldn't be surprised happened.
We have an idea, they're the ones who made HiFi Rush, which, ironically, is the only successful game of the company. The Shiniji Mikami/Ikumi Nakamura games were never successful.
whatever they say it´s all pr speech. it will have a been a culture issue + costs + maintenance and the fact that xbox basically gave up on the asian market
The only change in leadership that is affecting their umbrella of studios is the Microsoft Xbox business leadership themselves.
Your making assumptions without knowing what happened behind the scenes. Maybe the sudio people didnt want to do what xbox wanted and xbox said GTFO
*You're and Studio
They care about engagement, hi fi Rush didn't get that, almost nobody played it. It's a rhythm game after all.
It's a niche title
Nope, you're wrong: "Xbox says Hi-Fi Rush was a success "in all key measurements".
@@urracojalpa4481 dude, people lie in the real world - anyway, just check the stats on true achievements.
As far as I remember John Johanas was the lead on Evil Within 2 and Hi-Fi Rush. Perfectly qualifies him for stepping in the shoes of Shinji Mikami as his successor if you ask me. It's so sad that you have a legend in the gaming world growing this new generation of game creators and the moment they are ready take the scepter the higher ups just shut everything down. Don't you want the seniors passing all their knowledge to the younger generation so that you will keep having all these great games in the future even after the seniors retired?
What makes me sad is we never going to see HiFi Rush 2 :..(
Why do you think that?
@@jeremybrown9611bruh! Didn’t you hear? 👀
@@miiworld2 here what?
Heard*
@@jeremybrown9611*Hear
How stupid can xbox be to close their only japanese studio to break into the asian market 🤦🏽♂️
I kno right
Remember japan studio? Who had them again?
@@guitarspud1723 it's funny how far behind PS from N in their homeland 🤣 ps is like 3rd place
@guitarspud1723 if Astrobot flops then yea sony .might close them next 🤦🏽♂️
As stupid as their Leftover Xbots Corporate Gamers That still protect Phil Spencer 😂
They have been making one bad decision after another
I actually understand Xbox decision here. I do not agree with RGT on this one.
Look at Capcom for example. Where is the Megaman franchise after Kenji Inafune left? Do you all remembered that? He was working on several Megaman games that we were all excited for! Like Megaman Legends 3 for the 3DS or Megaman World and even a sequel for Megaman Powerup! What Capcom do back then? They literately cancel all of the games! Their decision was simple instead of allowing someone else to continue the franchise and ruin it they decided it was better to move on. Another example, look at what happened to Metal Gear after Kojima left? Again the same situation. So it seems to me, that his leadership to you might not sound like a big deal but apparently it was and he was the real brains behind the operations of a pretty small studio by the way. So it sounds like Microsoft made the decision that is was better to move on that put something out there that was not going to stick or create another fiasco like Redfall for example. Which could explained why they did not allow Hi-Rush 2 development to move forward without him. They simply did not have any faith that the game was going to turn up good without his leadership.
You would be right if Mikami had anything to do with HiFi Rush, but he didn't.
HiFi Rush wasn't one of his projects. The people who made HFR were still all in the studio.
How would you or RGT know how much input he had or not? Consider Nintendo and Shigeru Miyamoto. Miyamoto has not directed a Zelda or Mario game in over 20 years. Those franchises have been taken over by Eiji Aonuma and Takashi Tezuka, respectively. So, officially, Miyamoto has not been directly involved in these franchises. However, Eiji Aonuma has mentioned in interviews that, although Miyamoto is not directly involved, he still runs many of his ideas by him and receives feedback and guidance. The same has been said by Masahiro Sakurai and, more recently, by Davide Soliani. The point I'm making is that we have no idea how involved he was or not. My example shows that there is often much more involvement from upper management in these companies than you might think, especially in Japanese developers like Tango.
Something happened, microsoft obviously thought Tango was not going to succeed on their next project. It always comes down to money.
Ive noticed that instead of 2 i only get 1 commercial before the video. Are they demonetizing you?
I have to agree @RGT85 You definitely take ownership of things
Yes it really sucks about this. It's sad. But on the bright side on my opinion. The game is getting a physical with LRG. I recently read a article on it and it was confirmed to still be happening. So I'm excited about that and can't wait to order it.
Maybe there is still time to call. The A Team
By this logic Microsoft should have shut down when Bill Gates left.
????
Sure if they were owned by a parent company and were pitching products that were risks.
Apples to oranges dude.
@@jeremybrown9611it's the logic being used here
@@barcster2003 This logic is fallacious
I wish bill gates would retire and stop f ing with our country
They couldn’t care less about the Japanese market and the feeling is reciprocated…
Microsoft may be want to pay only big games and big Studios
Bond. Sarah Bond.
After closure of Tango I don't trust Phil and Xbox brand
Number of consecutive RGT videos without cat hate: 1
Why don't you ever do a video on Fire Pro Wrestling?! I would love to hear your opinion on it
This confirms that Microsoft is Homer Simpson, doh! 🤕
RGT only trusts Jim Ryan and Shawn Layden.....
Now that Jim Ryan is retired, maybe?
Trust a Cobra not to bite you before you trust Fail Spencer
@@DarkflameEmperor retired! is that what they call being fired in business terms?
Lies of phil 😂 he talks too much
Playstation has 2 new CEO one Dutch and one Japanese.
I agree with the comment “Matt talking out his booty”. The evil with in to me was a rival to Resident evil!! One was the sh**!!! Part 2 was still good!!!! 🤦🏼♂️ major F*** up on Xbox for tango
@RGT-85: It sounds to me like they ARE taking ownership of their decision, which was to hire Shinji Mikami via purchasing his company. It seems pretty clear that they felt the company had lost their desired value once he left. Why are we acting like this was a mistake? They know what they’re doing. Agree with it or not, only time will tell if their decision was wise.
I mean if the creator leaves and take a bunch of the devs to his new studio what do ppl expect .. I guess ppl wanted them to waste money on hiring a bunch of devs just for them to never be able to capture that magic Shinji Mikami brings in.
The Evil Within 1 and 2 were crazy trips...very underrated games.
I plan on getting a pc in the next couple months but what would I do with my poor Xbox? I put quite a bit of dedication into this machine. I am using geforce now to tide me over until I get that pc but should I drop the pc game pass with it? Xbox is apparently confusing me the most here. It will take a bit to recover from that. Is he making up thing's to piss people off? Sheesh. Phil Spencer should've answered that question. I think his mannerism would come acrossed a bit easier.
Xbox has had a really good 2024? They released 1 game in May and that was a 5 hour walking simulator. Like half the year is over already. Their hardware sales completely tanked this year when the Multiplattform rumors spread and more games are skipping Xbox and while their showcase was good, everything was 2025
I would argue this was one of the worst years they ever had (they didn’t have any game in 2022, but 2022 didn’t kill the brand like 2024 did )
Expose these idiots 😂
It’s not dumb at all when you are trying to save money. The bottom line is not enough people bought the games regardless how much RUclipsrs whine on about it. Plus the head of the company departed so that put them at risk obviously.
It’s not rocket science to realise that an at risk studio is a huge liability.
It’s just weird when hardly any RUclipsrs bang on about Sony closing studios in the same way as when they choose to attack Microsoft. (This is not aimed at you specifically either and more just a general observation).
All of this could have waited anyway. Let people be on a high about Xbox winning the showcases. Even IGN said it was over 70 percent in favour of Xbox which is rather massive for their audience being so Pro PlayStation.
For the longest time that I can remember PlayStation is suddenly just totally irrelevant now with Nintendo wiping the floor with them as well with their showing.
It’s no surprise to me why Nintendo has delayed the Switch 2 anyway as why bother when the current one outsells everything else.
Exactly. None of the 4 games Tango made as much as fans love them were financial successes. Evil Within 1 did ok. But Evil Within 2 barely cracked 200000 sales. Like 1/4th what the first did. & Ghostwire & Hi Fi sales wise were flops & remember Ghostwire was exclusive for a year to PS5.
That is a good point you made too about a Ghostwire Tokyo.
I quite liked most of their games too personally. Apart from Evil Within 1 on Xbox as it ran poorly, looked soupy and was never enhanced for Xbox One X sadly.
Xbox has some great games but they never enhance them for newer consoles which I think is a shame. Not that Sony is really any better as despite repeated requests they refuse to even update Bloodborne to run at 60 fps on PS5.
If anything I think Arcane Austin were dealt a more savage blow as they were forced into making a mp game which was way outside their wheelhouse yet they still tried to make it compelling. I don’t hate the game as much as some seem to as it really has such promising elements that it is a shame it will never be feature or story complete.
Cough cough MEDIA MOLECULE Dreams best game you can have for Sony and they fumbled it
@@droid4d279 Exactly. Or Japan Studio getting shut down. Just 🦗 when it comes to Sony's studio closures or misuses.
How is Playstation totally irrelevant? PlayStation is king of sales and has a lot of successful franchises. In what reality do you live in?
Also, HiFi rush was successful, they had a golden goose and they shut it down, typical Microsoft.
Thanks to the noncomplete cause being gone hopefully these companies think twice before throwing away their employees like trash.
Because those same employees COULD work for their competitors. At least that's the hope
HonestlyXbox should have tried to get Hideki Kamiya, former Platinum Games director. He already expressed interest in joining Xbox back when he was with Platinum and he left the company almost a year ago
I mean, sure the guy screwed Xbox over with Scalebound but at least now if he worked at Xbox then you don't have to woert about misappropriation of fund for projects on competitor plarforms
you said that people leave companies all the time. Same applies for studios, business decisions are made all the time. Some times studios need to be closed to maintain growth. If future projects do not ensure bright future, they get closed.
I liked the show and there's plenty I'm looking forward to, but if a show with barely any release dates means they've had a good year then the standards are extremely low. The only game they've released (if you can call it that) is Hellblade 2? I want Xbox to do well but those can't be the standards for a good year lol
"Xbox have a good year so far"....what are you talking about RGT? You mean, the summer presentation? The Xbox brand has been on the toilet since the launch of Xbox One, including this year.
It's times like this that me it great to be a Nintendo RUclipsr, huh Sean?
I agree with you 💯 they shouldn't blame shinji
The Xbox Showcase was good, but the Nintendo Direct was better. The lies and deception of Microsoft diminished the trust in the Xbox brand.
This "thing looming over Xbox's head " is called "The Cloud " They made is clear during the pre launch of the Xbox One; that this was their goal and that they wanted EVERYTHING to be in the cloud I'm the future; which is why the Xbox One was going to have DRM that required you to be online at all times, to authenticate your account and ownership of the games you bought. That was supposed to get peoole used to THE CLOUD until everyone was canceling their Xbox one Pre Orders, and they removed the DRM; but their plans never changed, as they never made any statement to recant what Major Nelson said. Again, look up the Angry Joe and Major Nelson interview. I stopped trusting these fools since that Xbox One fiasco and it baffles me why people overlooked this and kept enabling them to be where they are today. They almost killed the gaming industry, if we being honest.
I’m not a Knicks fan or even a basketball fan but that hat is nice!!
I disagree on this one... From all the Xbox comments: Tango Gameworks was too expensive to run, maybe no good sales on Ghostwire Tokyo, and that game was prob very expensive. Leadership might be more critical for US company to operate studio in Japan, finding a leader (assume needs to be Japanese) is never easy esp for a company that only has subsidiary there and many ppl do not have fluent English. From all the game studio disasters studios, a good leader is a rare gem. Plus we don't know any details on Shinji Mikami, he could have crafted 99% of the game and was just in QA after he left.
I can’t believe Sara Bond is the one you trust the most!?!
I believe that this issue has transcended beyond the grasp of XBox. I believe it is Microsoft leadership taking control of XBox. The CEO, during the FTC trial, stated he would like to have more games on other platforms, so this is what I believe is going on with the constant change in their messaging.
And who’s responsible for the new leadership hire? If it’s an Xbox studio, isn’t it Phil or Matt?
The thing is this is all true. Mikami left. They had no leadership or projects.
I don't trust her either. She seems like the type that would sell out her grandma to make a buck.
I go back and forth with this one. It was a great game, but I probably wouldn't have bought it had it not been on Game Pass. Game Pass both elevated it to popularity and was its downfall.
Hi FI Rush was able to catch into the JGR JSRF vibe. Is a huge and pointless shame the studio shut down, at least they went out with a bang.
Since it doesn't make logical sense, I suspect it had to do with office politics.
The studio is close most of the people still work for xbox
Sean Jay Makameh
He definitely needs to go.
But if we use logic Tango was shut down because xbox didn't want to flip the bill for Tango. They saw the pipe line of games and Tango and arkane had nothing in full production, so instead of waiting 5+ years on a new game, they cut cost by shutting them down.
Its very stupid because its not Tangos fault that they shipped GhostWire on ps5 in 2022, then Ghostwire and HiFi on xbox in 2023.
Its comes down to saving money over talent.
RGT a man of the people!🍻
You're still just guessing. I'm assuming there is a good reason, but pointing fingers at the employees isn't a road they want to go down.
He left for reasons clearly.😊
Matt spincter says what?
Xbox has had a terriblw 2024. They had a good showcase though.
Ninja Theory did have a change in leadership. So I would be very worried if I were them. Also, Matt Booty and Phil Spencer wouldn't know a good game to save their lives.
I'm not sure why everyone is clutching pearls here. Microsoft is being Microsoft. They have a long and tenured history of doing this. Why did you think just because it's video games, they would change? A tiger can't change it's stripes.
Greed is going to tank xbox. They need to get rid of gamepass! Realistically wanting people to subscribe to playing games for x amount a month vs them purchasing games and inheritantly the system to play certain games is a lose lose formula. They get a constant subscribtuob amount from subscribers, but developers dont get the profits from years of purchases, the system doesnt get life breathed into it and eventually customer base shrinks. So.... at this point, gamepass is poisoning xbox with its shortsided greed.
I thought hifi rush was a pile of 💩
Shinjin really didnt want to work under Microsoft
Tell me what's so good about Xbox's 2024. What are the great Xbox games you've played?
Starfield was good not great but everything else is coming holiday 2024 possibly
take out Doom & Gears (with no gameplay), how good was the Xbox showcase? Indiana Jones hyping??
Hi-fi Rush was made by the folks who took over after Shinji left, he wasn't as involved in the development, just kinda left them to do their thing. All that talent wasted.
Not deffending them but they can do whatever they want with their company whitout our permission or giving us any explanation. It suck people get fired but sadly thats the world we are living in.
I don't think that most people knew this company before the shut down and are now pretending to have cared.
Hmmm 🤔...
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...are we singing that Crash Test Dummies song?
Wow! I never put that thought in my head the way you put it: “can we TRUST this company?” And the answer is resoundingly: NO F-ING WAY.
Not much more to say RGT called this one like it looks. Video went on a bit to long for this though.
Don't get the business model... you want to make money off Xbox games they should have limited access or portion of the game on them while in game pass and be sold separately. 3rd party people should pay to get on game pass and then you pay them or game download they get. They get more then the upfront cost and they make money.
The way Xbox is operating all their studios will fail by the video game metric standards so you better enjoy the brief return of Rare.
Xbox is losing japan and other Asian markets to Sony and Nintendo
Even though Xbox had more promising titles in the showcase, I can’t accept it being better than the others simply because half the showcase was for 2025 releases. Plus I feel Xbox has had the most controversy this year from a business standpoint
Bobby Kotick is leaving Activision. Time to close Activision.
Sorry to say but that makes sense cause he was the face of tango and Shenji never named his successor that's worth a damn. Still does not excuse the layoffs.
Forget about Hi-Fi Rush, this is average game. But Ghostwire: Tokyo this was something special, I will miss them
This one sounds like there's a lot more to the story. It must have gotten pretty political. Why did he quit seems to be key. How did it affect the relationship and culture. You're right about this, why share now. They had a great showcase, I think they won not E3. They should leave deadbodies lye and keep marching.
hi RGT
I'm not surprised. Microsoft thinks talent first, teams second. Teams are interchangable, real talent is irreplacable.
No reason to buy an Xbox
I mean he is the only reason bethesda bought them. Imagine if kojima left.
If kojima left his studio…that’s it…tango wasn’t a big studio
Idk, Xbox obviously did not have any issue with Rod Fergusson leaving The Coalition and bailing on Gears to make Diablo at Blizzard. They replaced him. Or you know, Bungie moved on from Halo but they keep trying to replicate that magic, lol. I think the real story is that without being able to sell horror games with the Mikami named attached to them, Tango had no value to Xbox.
Tango game works name should have been Mikami productions all this time. Imagine you Buy Kojima productions and as soon as the publish their First succesful game ever Kojima leaves. Mikami was the face of the company anf the only reason Bethesda didnt mind all the 3 games on the company being sales flops since His name gave Prestige
Xbox is Xbox who is Xbox and Xbox is like Xbox for Xbox. Read a book
The dust will just settle again. Who cares
I dont care, what you think or say RGT, just like you dont care about my opinion.
But still, I will like this video because you are the king of xbox youtube
Philnocchio
I stick with Nintendo, F Microsoft!
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... and when Ninja Theory gets closed, Matt Booty will blame Don Mattrick for it.
Ninja theory should be shut down after bleeding edge and hellblade 2... I wouldn't give them another cent to develop anything
Bad move Xbox!
Its really.not that dumb, i think THE BOOTY, gave the best answer he could without straight up disrespecting Tango studio. And tbh we need to just move forward. Its kinda just ridiculous at this point. Sony has shut down well over a dozen studios over the years.
These closures recently were the first sures in over 8 years. I get it sucks... but jesus how long are we going to do this. And please no one respond, im not goinf reply.
The real reason for the shut down: they would be spending a few million to make a hi fi rush sequel and Xbox layed them off to save money
MATT A$$: THE JOKES WRITE THEMSELVES😂
Throwing around blame. Go out and hire new leadership. God, i thought the title of this article was hyperbole. Good sh*t man.
i think xbox just gets an xboner about shutting down companies.