Why we prefer Mitas E-07+ tires for our Adventure Bikes
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- What kind of tires do you run on your adventure bike? In this video, Jim Hyde explains why he relies on the Mitas E-07+ for his fleet of BMW GS adventure motorcycles.
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I love this video, really down to earth, speaks a normal language that the avg man on the street can understand and associate with. I hope your business do exceptionally well! and, Thanks for making this video, I'm about to put this on the rear of my F800 GS
How do they go on the F800GS?
@@RobBrown Mate, they are golden! I love them!
@@winstonnolan Thanks mate, I might give them a run next time around... 🤠👍
This tire is on my short list of replacements for the Stock Pirelli's on my T7 (Hate 'Em. Don't get me started) Got to ride a buddy's T7 with a fresh set of the E07+ (Dakar) and loved them. We did a 140 mile loop (74 miles dirt/66 miles pavement) around Steamboat/Rabbit Ears today, and they are most certainly one of the very best 50/50 tires I've ever experienced.
I also use Mitas on my 95 R80 GS and great performance on every surface!Love it..
Loved the video and recommendations. I plan on replacing my factory KTM 890 Adventure R tires with the Mitas E 07's. I got about 5,000 miles out of the factory ones and they are due for replacement.
Thanks for the review
Kenny Rogers!!
I took your recommendations and bought a set Road the rear tire for 8,000 miles and I just put a new rear tire on yet front tire looks great thank you very much for the recommendation
Your video is well made, well thought out and well presented. I like!
you should measure at the tread marker and why or why not use mm? I've replaced my Heidenau K60 with the MITAS E07+ and I love the difference. both perform really well in terms of durability and traction on and off road, both have hard carcasses (sides) (helpful if you have a puncture, not RFT grade but close). The MITAS is better in the wet (hard surface). Both are poor in mud (they are a 50/50 and not a 10/90 tyre). The BEST advantage is in terms of noise. perhaps it is a frequency (hz) for my ear but I find the MITAS to have a low rumble on the tarmac that is nearly pleasant while the Heidenau would actually scare me while cornering they are so noisy in the higher frequency range.
RiShark Tíburon how many miles have you gotten out of the E07? Getting ready for a tire. I’m pretty easy on tires. Thanks!
Instablaster.
got a Yamaha Super Tenere with the E-07+ used back in January. I have roughly 10K miles on the bike since January and I am just now replacing the back wheel with another E-07+ because the front tire looks almost new still. Can't see replacing both tires. However I am very impressed with these tiers. I ride mostly street and my throttle habit whiskey wrist, these tires are rock solid and I may have to stick with them as long as I can find them. My only concern is that they are hard to find. I had to go to ebay and pay a premium which I hated doing
I've got them on my KLR650. The rear has done about 15,000km's and I reckon I might still get another 2 or 3000 km's out of it. Grips well too, I'll be getting another one for sure. The front is good to and isn't wearing the lugs on weird angles. I'm probably getting big distances out of them due to the KLR's power or should I say lack of it.
The KLR has more than enough power for me! Then again, my local highways only ever go up to 110km/h and it can go 160km/h so definitly more than id ever need.
I have these tires on my old Honda Transalp xl 600 v, works great on tarmac, gravel, light dirt and a little mud.
Are you still satisfy with this tyres? (i have the same bike)
Thanks for the review. I love that it was filmed at a Starbucks.LOL
Why Starbucks sucks liberal tit. And their coffee taint good either.
@@oSmudge unfortunately, they have put themselves in that position. The sign is actually a humorous sign at his school so the frappe drinking GS riders "feel" at home while attending his school. Full disclosure, I drink coffee including S Bucks.
I don't remember that sign..
Well over 4k on my Shinko 804/805 combo. Front still looks new. Rear still has well over half tread left. Run them on my VStrom 1000.
Yeah, that's me too running the 804/805 combo on a R1200GS - amazing tires, though the 99mph speed limitation is a bit spooky... Quite good off road - surprisingly good on the tarmac!
4K. 4K what? Appreciable difference whether miles or km's.
Actually, another argument for the minority to adopt the world majority use of metric system then there will be less confusion.
i use them too, best universal tires 50/50... greetings from Czech rep.
Was great spending time with you in April 22 at Rawhide Adventures zakara
We're glad you came... and hope to see you again somewhere ! ride safe!
Believe it or not, but I put 14K Mile on the rear & 18K on the front 07 R12GSA SoCal to the Labrador Hwy all kind of terrain & weather conditions
very informative and well put together!
Thanks for the review, have a set of the new dunlops on the way but will get a set of mitas for second set of wheels.
For those who don't think in hundreds of thousands of something most of the world hasn't used for fifty years, Eo7 on a drz400e lasts 10,000 kilometers with a 100 kilo bloke who doesn't ring the guts out of the bike.
What is 100 kilos? let's see 1 kilo is 2.2 lbs so now we're using decimals rather than whole numbers and 100 x 2.2 = 220 lbs? good lord wouldn't it be easier to just say you weigh 220 lbs than to get into fractions and decimals to arrive at the same number? and kilometers.1000 meters? how long is a meter,3.something feet? so here we go with the decimals and all again.so a kilometer is like 3700 feet and there's 5280 feet so 1000 kilometers is around 370000 feet? divided by 5280.... wouldn't it be easier just to say 800 miles or whatever and use whole numbers rather than get into all the decimals and math involved in converting kilometers into miles which is what everyone, including most speedometers do in the end anyway? decimals, fractions and the metric system will never be as easy to use as whole numbers.Im sorry.thats just how it is.
@@billbonu1639 Sounds like you got there any way. Australia hasn't used that system since 1971 so to make it easier for you in America, e07 is good y'all. You won't find a speedo or a roadmap or bathroom scales in this country that uses the imperial system. Bare in mind also that American gallons are different from the rest of the world. Just pull yer head in son, not everything in the world is geared for you ! P.s. 10,000k=60000 miles, that's at 1760 yards to the mile.
Thanks for the review. I may have to try a set.
I watched this vid when it first came out. Since then I bought a new Honda Africa and have now done 40,000 km (24850 miles). I am of the opinion that they are great for gravel and handle very well on the sealed roads. I get up to 8000 km (4900miles) from them. I am a hard rider on sealed roads but don't drift ride standing because of the dollar, although I do love doing that.. Good video cheers
Okay!! I've bought a hole set to replace my Heindenau...We will see
I have been though a few sets of these. I like them i got about 4500 out of rear and about 8K out of fronts. Im on road 70% of the time.
I really would like a comparison between these tires and the Dunlop's Trail Max. I have see reviews in which people say they are some of the best on and off road. But they are very heavy tires, which such for smaller engine bikes as it robs the bike of some power and increases chain wear. I think that in test of reversal tires, it was the heaviest of all the models tested.
I’ve been looking at the trialmax missions too, but decided not go with them as they have poor wet road performance. I also like the larger gaps of the EO7+ which means better clearing of mud when off-roading.
@@CyrilHelnwein my concern is also wet tarmac for Missions. I'm on 1150 GS.
@@Chris.Mechanic I can happily say the Mitas EO7+ perfomed well enough on wet tarmac, but nothing extraordinary. After 2400km my rear had to be changed, but I rode most of that hard on sharp rocky ground with a 500lbs bike and plenty of rear spinning. Good tyre for off-road and soft enough for tarmac in the wet, but therefore won’t last very long. The Dakar version is harder compound but therefore less grip on wet roads.
Great to see another positive review on the Mitas, I had a set of TKC80's on my DRZ400sm, They rock off road, but the rear wore so quickly and of course they are pretty rough on road( they work great just wear quick). I swapped the rear out for the Mitas E-07 Dakar model (Heavier sidewall compared to the standard E-07). I really like this tire and when the Front TKC needs replacing I definitely will replace it with the Mitas tire.
Thanks. Good honest review.
50 GSs no wonder there is a Starbucks sign above the door.... 😅😜
I have chosen this tyer for my yamaha xt rat bike, Purley for the looks of the tire is why I'm testing this and also pretty cheep that's always an advantage.
Are they available in 17 inch front and rear?
Off topic: With that many GS'es parked there, of course there would be a Starbucks sign somewhere nearby 🤣
I ran a set of E07 Dakar front & rear on my F800GS & got 20K MILES out of the set. I loved them so much I bought another set to replace the first set. However, Mitas replaced the original E07 rear with the E07+, so I had no option to use the same rear that lasted 20K miles. I've now got 7K miles on the rear & it's almost done. Disappointing... But maybe I was spoiled on my first set. Did they change the compound on the "plus" to a softer rubber?
You will never know but once again a manufacturer changes a format that worked well and got a following. An it seems that the good aspect that made people buy again has gone. Duh!
I am/was interested in the E-07 for a 1250GS but i have to use an E-07+ which has turned into more an 'off road' tyre now with the change in tread pattern and not the road tyre i saw in the E-07.
But i would like the see the land/sea ration of the E-07 & E-07+ in same sizes as it may be similar. E-07+ bigger blocks but wider grooves so may balance out.
May just use Motoz Tractionator GPS again as this is a reasonable road tyre & an OK unsealed road tyre. The solid centreline spoils traction off-road too much imo. Need to take to it with a grooving iron.
Hi there... I installed Mitas E0-7 plus tires on my 2018 GSA, hoping to have a good grip on occasional off-roads, and longer life on asphalt, where it spends 80% of all the riding time, and here is what I found - for those who want to have a true 50/50 tire, that will live most of the time on the pavement, Mitas may not be the best solution, especially for those with heavy throttle habits... For the first 1500 I was really happy with the tires, no issues on/off road, great performance on both... But last week I was coming home from the trip (~2000 miles on tires), and notices some sort of wobbling/floating from the rear tire on lower speed turns. When I got home, I checked the rear tire, and I noticed cracks along the center strips knobs, where they contact the main surface, like they are starting to be ripped off of the tire... It is not too bad so far, but I am concerned if it is safe to keep riding it. To be fair, I don't do anything reckless, no willies etc, but I do get up to speed rather quickly, and usually ride "in the left lane", and I do break with transmission a lot, which puts more pressure on the rear tire... Front one is fine, no issues so far. Just to let you know... :) . Ride safe!
Rostov OnDon Sounds like you might have just got a bad one. I’ve read tons of reviews and no one mentioned that sort of issue.
That’s a defect.
After 3 years of experience is the E-O7+ still your preferred tire?
I’ve ridden 10,000 km on a set both on and off road. Also in torrential down pores on highway pavement.
I love the rear while my experience with the front is it washes out fairly easily in some conditions on a 1250 GSA. Wet grass, some sand (not deep).
I also noticed the front is getting louder with wear.
Hi Chuck... I like the mitas... but we've switched to the Dunlop Trail Max Mission tires from a company perspective... we've developed a relationship with Dunlop... the tire is made in the USA... It has great wear characteristics .. maybe not quite as good in sand and mud... but more than adequate for most ADV type riding...
@@RawHydeAdventures Hi there! Which would you say is the better option for wet pavement?
@@RawHydeAdventures i wonder if you thought about Pirelli adventure str?
How much easier it would be to measure in mm ,
Hi do you recommend the mita tyres for mybmw 1200 gs adventure .For road and offroad use.
Really nice you´ve been to Peru. Machu Picchu
I just scrolled down to look for Starbucks comments. Thanks for the review.
What speed can i do on this tyre .I am considering these tyres for my gs r100 adventure i ride 70 0nroad 30 offroad
Hi! Nice vid!
Anyone could compate 07+ with Dunlop Trailmax Missions?
My concern is wet tarmac... For both. I'm in mid Europe, called by most people East Europe :) /Poland...
Which one have you chosen? I’m still thinking about what to get for 890 adv r
Hi! i see a standard GS windshield. Thinking about changing to lower screen on mine GSA to reduce buffeting and get some more fresh air. Happy with your change?
yes... quite happy with the smaller windscreen... gives me better airflow in the hot weather of California.
Hey Jim, I appreciate your vids and hope to be on a bike again and heading out your way in Colorado. With that said, I see you have a lot of BMW GS's, (I think I'm partial to the Rallye) with all of the other bikes out there, KTM, Honda Africa Twin and such, would you recommend any particular bike for someone getting back on a bike that wants the off road adventure type for long term camping and mileage trips?
Thanks for your feedback.
Bruce
Hey there... sorry this too so long... and its a bit unfair to ask my opinion on which bike to buy since we're sponsored by BMW... but I guess budget could be your deciding factor... BMW in my opinion is the most versatile and reliable bike... but is pretty much the most expensive... Honda and the Suzuki Vstrom are the inexpensive bikes in the category... KTM is great but pretty maintenance intensive... ? hope that helps...
Thanks for the reply Jim, I've been leaning toward the '18 GS1200 Rallye and I know it's gonna cost me. I was just wondering for the money and with your knowledge if it was really any better or worth it compared to the other options?
Thanks for your time.
Hi there, just a little info for you: BMW is about to present probably in September in Germany the new boxer engine, I heard something like 1250cc and maybe 150hp. If you're not in a rush, wait a little bit; maybe the other LC engine will lose value. Personally, I have a 2015 GSA LC and love it, did some off-road as well, and the new models after 2015 had already new improvements with smoother clutch, automatic ESA, new digital dashboard and so on...I have tried the others as well, KTM 1290 S, Multistrada Enduro, new Tiger 1200. The Multistrada is the only one that gave me good feeling, but then, and it is personal, I like to stick to shaft drive. And the Multi is also more expensive...
Thanks for the heads up buddy, do you feel the lc rides over everything well enough, no clearance issues, rocks, tree roots etc.?
@@phattdaddy2974 Consumer Reports: BMW has a 40% failure rate, this is 2018 info.On mine? 09' R12R, gas gauge replaced 3 times, rear wheel bearing replaced, throttle cams cracked/replaced, Fi pump replaced, Asian bikes? 9% failure rate. Beware.
It's not a 50/50, the Mitas site states it is a 60/40. The E-07 is the 50/50
I have a new set of mitas e7 on my tiger 800 and above 130km on the highway, the front is going to shake? more people got the same problem?
What sizes do you have and how much?
I keep getting bead leaks ony brand new E-07 plus front tire. Have remounted tire and checked for rim damage. Everything looks good. The rear tire seated and inflated ok . Front tire has bead seat pops, but still bubbles air from bead in several locations. The store that sold the tires said it is a common problem and they use bead sealer on all the E07 plus tires they mount.
Is this a common issue?
Yes I have seen this too.
I bought the E-07 plus front and rear. I started with 11mm of tread depth. After 1,300 mile trip from Riverside California to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, I have 6mm. By that measure, it is a 3,000 mile tire. No better than a TKC-80. Not impressed.
I put the E07 Dakar ( non plus ) last year on my KTM 1190R and I won't last 5000 miles either. It's flat now in the rear, I use it for tarmac only now. But for onroad , It's 3000-4000 max on my bike and my hooligan style :). They also perform very decent on tarmac for Belgian weather ( = rain, cold )
I personally have gotten 24 000km on a rear Mitas e07 (older style). Mounted on a tiger 800 xc. great tire
How do they perform on weth asphalt?
Enjoyed the review by the way!
they perform pretty well on wet asphalt... I just did a 2000 mile ride on the Continental Divide... and rode ALL kinds of terrain and pavement conditions... The tires performed really well across the board AND after two K miles they don't show appreciable wear... there is another 4 or 5 thousand miles left in them...
@@RawHydeAdventures
Thank you I appreciate your feedback!
IMHO judging tyres on being long wearing is completely wrong for an adventure bike.
Long wearing means hard compound, hard compound means compromised grip in the wet on tar when the grip is most needed.
I’ve just run trailmax missions for 5000k great tyre in the dry and on dirt but in the wet they are awful.
I’ve run E07, E09, E10, anakee wilds, TKC70s and 80s and a shitload of others over the years.
Wet grip is important, long wearing isnt
What's your favorite from those you mentioned?
@@madeiraonwheels probably the tkc 70 rocks now…great all rounder excellent wet weather grip.
Edit: remember the only thing between you and the road are your tyres, budget tyres are false economy.
Hmm, my tkc 80 has about 5k and still looking great. Mostly street ridden. Still testing it
Mostly street? Why on earth TKC 80?
@mld This is a 2000 mile tire. Or so
Is it fitted to a wheel ? You need to ride that bike Tomas and take it off the centre stand 😂🤣
New tire thread depth is 10 millimeters for all you IS-standard talking europeans and tire wear on the old was about 3 mm. ;-) That's good numbers for a 50/50 tire. I'm about to buy my first Mitas e07.
Thank you ! Do use these in the front also ?
Yes we do... both front and rear are matched.
How many km you drive this tire?
What difference between the e07+ and the plain E07?
I don't think they make the E07 anymore -whats out there may be limited stock... I could be wrong though.....
www.mitas-moto.com/en/products/motorcycle--trail--tires
Should give you all the info you need.
E-07 is 50/50
E-07+ 60 onroad 40 off road
Hi Jim
Will those fit on a KTM 1190??? Please advise thanks.
I'm not sure what size your KTM takes... but we have the 170-60-17 and the 110-80-19 for our GS's
Yes, even on my 1190R. But in Europe hard to get sometimes in those sizes. I order them at Trellesport UK
@@jimhyde5138 170 60 r17 uses the KTM Adventure. Yes, it will fit perfectly.
How’s road noise?
you can hear a "little" road noise if you run a "dirt pressure" on the road... but they are pretty quiet at full pressure.
Thanks for the data........I just wish the US would join the rest of the planet and talk metric! All this 400 thousanths and 19/64ths nonsense is really 19th century!
Geoff P-D ya your right. The rest of the world uses the metric system. The US only has put men on the moon. 😄😂😃 just messing with you
25.4
They look heavy.. How many stone are they?
@@kevinsterner9490 I bet NASA work in metric 😜!!
Yeah,so true. I give 4/8ths of 4/5ths of 16/ 42ths of a poop about 120thousands . When they're new.. 10mm replace em about 4mm .
Woulda been a pretty decent video, until the 2:00 ish mark where you can see him mess with the 'new' tire's tread measurement, and then decides to, for some unknown stupid reason, measure the tread of the 'old' tire in a spot that seems to be A) different, and B) completely out of sight of the camera... meaning that the initial measurement was tampered with, and the second one could have been tampered with even more...
They don't make a E07+ for a 21 inch front, what do you or Mitas recommend? thanks
www.mitas-moto.com/international/products/motorcycle-trail-tyres/e-07/ They list two different 21" Font ones..
They do now. My 1190R has them now ( dakar version ). but be warned, not easy to mount. Best warm them beforehand and use a tire machine.
that tire wear at 2200mi sounds like need to keep a better eye on your pressures.
what do u mean by that? to low pressure, bigger wear?
@@joedoe7506 the tire pressure being even 1psi low on a motorcycle causes it to wear way faster than a tire kept at the correct pressure.
👍👍👍👍
I like the E-07 non plus better.
For goodness sakes please get the metric system and leave the stone ages behind
Watching this video for info on the mitas tyres.
Nobody:
Me: Wow the imperial measuring system is shit!
How to make measurement difficult. Maybe Americans have some perspective of what 430 thousands looks like and can compare with 270 thousands. Not me. Millimeters is so much better, at least for me. My country went metric long time ago. So much easier & simpler and like the rest of the world. About time the USA did too as it is the only industrialised country where the metric system is not the predominant system of units.
Gez..
How the hell you understand this type of measuring..?
Sound like you are measuring distance to some planet or something..
Have you tried the Michelin Anakee wild?
I did for 5000 km! Rear Finish! 😱 Now i Have Mitas E-07 for 3500-4000km and it look almost new.
They dont last at all. Got 3000km on my klr's rear. Just shit.
All I hear about these is that they are scary (actually the word people use is “dangerous) on wet pavement. There’s better tires that go over 5k
well... most tires are pretty scary on wet pavement... we have not had anything happen that I would categorize as "dangerous"? but everyone is entitled to their opinions...
Why do you guys sound like preachers ?
mitas = Czech Republic :-*
270000 th !? Why don't you guys just go to metric 🤷😄
hehe... well... I guess its cause our world revolves around "inches" and miles...
Tires are round and black.lol
Guess I won't be giving you a call. GO TEAM ORANGE!!!!
Ian Eaton really, that’s your comment, not very helpful
First 40 seconds you're telling me you don't pay much attention to tires and they're just round and black, but you've taken the time to post a video about them and insue by sharing an in-depth story about procuring a very particular tire.
CoughbullshitCough.
EVERYBODY cares about tires and their particulars, or beit, their compounds. We Entrust our lives with them.
I was recently at a seminar and a BMW paid professional research and development Rider offered to talk about tires, so he did, and went into a vague rhetoric, claiming the same thing, that to him,"tires are just round and black". Lol.
Then he claimed he wasn't going to tell us what his favorite tire was blah blah blah.
This guy in vid, and that guy at seminar, both extremely nice well versed individuals with YEARS of experience...
BUT I CALL COUGHBULLSHITCOUGH
Post edit- I ended up recently purchasing the inexpensive but VERY well reviewed shinko 705's.
Happy and safe riding, and enjoy your new skins 🖤
Trust your lives with them and you got Shinkos? :)
This is an advertisement for the tyres he imports & sells. Not a problem though if the info is factual. But without knowing how the tyres are used/ridden the tyre wear example is irrelevant really. Many users would get more. the same and less.
In the civilised world, millimeters are used. Thousands of an inch is useless.
There are two types of countries; those who use the metric system, and those who have been to the moon.
@@azb2010 and the point is?
@@azb2010 by using the metric system, mind you... if you are trying to be funny, at least make sure the joke's not on you. At least you got your name right.
@@ralfwilkowski I bet you're fun at parties.