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  • @tieoneon1614
    @tieoneon1614 5 месяцев назад +48

    I guess I went the different route. After years of enduro, I found it easy to get a bigger ADV bike thru tricky offroad areas just from balance, momentum and weighting the bars/pegs instead of full knobbies. Having a bike comfortable on long pavement stretches was a newfound pleasure being able to explore anywhere all day knowing u got the skill and experience to get in/out of anything offroad within reason. Or on a hot day after work, just go for a little rip around town to cool off without the worry of wearing out those $270 "offroad only" tires. I found myself riding my bike twice as much with cheap 50/50 tires and adjusting the psi on/off road.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Hey it's whatever works for you. Which tyres are you running?

    • @superflycatchermtb
      @superflycatchermtb 5 месяцев назад +5

      Agreed, I think with big adventure bike riding, unless you are really going for very challenging, steep or muddy terrain, relying more on rider skill, and balance is the way to go. The blocked up knobby tires are just too loud and unpleasant on the pavement for me. The Dunlop Trail Max Missions and the Scorpion STR's are both great versatile adv tires, the will perform great off road except in Mud.

    • @tieoneon1614
      @tieoneon1614 5 месяцев назад

      Smaller dual sport, I like the Dunlop D605. Cheap, soft rubber for rocks/wet pavement, and the sidewall is soft enough to do anything u want with psi adjustment.

    • @tieoneon1614
      @tieoneon1614 5 месяцев назад

      @@superflycatchermtb Im on a smaller dual sport, but heard a lot bout the Missions. And I go a long ways to avoid mud, I hate it

    • @superflycatchermtb
      @superflycatchermtb 5 месяцев назад

      @@tieoneon1614 I don't think the Trailmax Mission is a good tire for a smaller dual sport. It's way too stiff and heavy, you need that for the power and weight of a big ADV bike, but there are better, litter more compliant tires for smaller dual sports.

  • @pinkiewerewolf
    @pinkiewerewolf 5 месяцев назад +3

    Wise words Curtis. 👍
    Most of my riding comes large chunks of pavement riding and the Dunlop Trailmax Missions have worked well for me there or even on gravel.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Nice Pinkie, good to hear I'm not recommending crap!

  • @muzadv
    @muzadv 5 месяцев назад +5

    Yep agree with you. I do a lot of long road rides with mates and then live to go hit the dirt back roads for a weekend by myself on my 800de. The Trailmax Missions are perfect for me

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Good to hear mate. Haven't heard a bad thing about the trailmax missions

  • @orionswitness
    @orionswitness Месяц назад +2

    Got a set of Pirelli trail master 2 ‘s …for Versys 650… compared to the stock tyres …they are brilliant , great for power slides on dirt, confidence inspiring on road

  • @vtrack1963
    @vtrack1963 5 месяцев назад +11

    For the way I ride my VStrom 1000XT, mostly pavement and good gravel/dirt/rock roads, Dunlop TrailMax Missions have been fantastic. I have over 37,000 miles (60,000 km) on 3 sets of them. Your advice is spot on for the way you ride (as seen from your videos). Good video!
    Another note, I prefer reinforced bias ply tires for tubeless tires. Their sidewalls are stiff enough you may be able to ride them flat to a safe area to plug them.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Good point and something to consider for everyone. That's some good mileage!

    • @CorwinYoutube
      @CorwinYoutube 8 дней назад +1

      Myself as well. Love the TrailMaxMissions.

  • @mikef3300
    @mikef3300 5 месяцев назад +6

    I have a Ktm 690 enduro r and run Dunlop Trailmax Missions on it. I was burning through knobbies in 2000 miles or less on the roads so I switched to the missions. They are much better on the road, fine on gravel and dirt but not good in mud for me. That’s fine because I’m no fan of mud either. The better road performance has been great. It seems a 50/50 tire suits my riding better than the knobbies and the extra mileage I’ll get out of the is a bonus

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Good to hear mate. They seem like they are doing the job for a lot of people

  • @TerrySylvester-ip9on
    @TerrySylvester-ip9on 5 месяцев назад +2

    “Check out the big brain on Brad” 🤣. Can’t stop thinking about the movie now! I definateky like the Motoz rear on my T7.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      "Aw, man, I shot Marvin in the face!"

  • @stubabyfuora5280
    @stubabyfuora5280 5 месяцев назад +2

    Agreed, same issue with dual sport, go full knobby, it gives you a real dirt bike and still rides pavement. Add rim locks and balance weight as needed for street

  • @terratrodder
    @terratrodder 5 месяцев назад +6

    I've done the D606/MT21 pair for a bit and they work well although the MT21 wore out quickly. I switched to the Shinko 700 with a MotoZ Rallz front and that has worked so good for me for all types of terrain, even amazing in snow surprisingly. I think when the Shinko wears out I'll try the RallZ rear.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      The Rallz rear should get pretty big kms depending on your bike. Fair few ppl like the Shinko, very solid for the price

  • @chrisrakow48
    @chrisrakow48 5 месяцев назад +2

    Solid recommendations! I've been running the dual venture front and I love it. Had that front wheel slip you mentioned on my KLR with stock tires and decided to get rid of them right away. For the back I got the motoz adventure which is just a bit less aggressive than the rallz.

  • @retiredwaterdoctor
    @retiredwaterdoctor 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great info when it's time to re-tire.....I will need to do that on the KLR soon as I rolled over 3000 KLM before putting away last fall.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Cheers. Hopefully you'll be out riding soon enough

  • @ianjones7486
    @ianjones7486 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great advice. I ride mainly on road and use Avon Trekriders on my Husky TR650. On the road they are magic but don't point them at sand on gravel. My 1290 is about to go the Motoz route. I can't wait to try them.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Nice mate, I haven't run Avon in years they always made good tyres. You'll definitely need something meaty for that 1290 rear!

  • @mkramsauer
    @mkramsauer 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great description brother 👊 seeing what you do on the bike I'd take your suggestions any day

  • @F1since79
    @F1since79 5 месяцев назад +3

    Aussies are the best! Who else would do a motorcycle tire guide video in their underchunders! 😂

  • @dimsim257
    @dimsim257 5 месяцев назад +3

    Enjoyed the tyre talk… now lets cover 2T oil 😂. But the go is second set of wheels for knobbies and swap as required.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      That's some big brain stuff mate. And castor oil forever!

  • @ralph1252
    @ralph1252 5 месяцев назад +5

    Hi mate, I'm about to throw on my 4th set of MOTOZ Adventure, great tyres, like you said, big mileage, around 10-11k out of the rear on my 2018 R1200GSA. The front did scallop when going back onto bitumen after the dirt and I didn't raise the pressure. Off-road they are nothing but confident, on the road they are still pretty good, I slow down in the wet, I don't want any $hithouse moments.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Good to hear mate. I slow down in the wet too, not a fan of stacking it on the tar

  • @Mikethebike-ov1yp
    @Mikethebike-ov1yp 5 месяцев назад +5

    Well said advice. I'm a 60 yr old who rides a lot of highway but needs to be able to scramble forest and fire trail roads. I certainly don't go as hard as you though Curtis
    on sigle track and the like- mostly solo riding.
    Easily the best tire I've found for what i do is the Motoz GPS- long lasting, reasonable to good grip on and off pavement, reasonably priced and ozzie designed.
    The best 50/50 i,ve found. Won't budge from these on my KLR.
    Allabest mate. PS- i can get up to 10'000 plus Kms out of them on the rear easily.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate. Sounds like the perfect tyre for you (and lots of others)

    • @waynedrew3334
      @waynedrew3334 5 месяцев назад

      I found the Motoz GPS downright dangerous on wet roads after riding Tasmania in the wet weather

    • @Mikethebike-ov1yp
      @Mikethebike-ov1yp 5 месяцев назад

      Wet roads are dangerous on any tyre. I find myself when wet riding, not pushing it far enough to find out!!!@@waynedrew3334

  • @meinekleineweltreise
    @meinekleineweltreise 5 месяцев назад +27

    Wow, I would never call the AX41 a wannabe tire. I really enjoyed them. In the deep sand of Utah and also in the mountains of Colorado. They don’t last long, but perform quite good especially on my Africa Twin. For longer distances I would go for a AX41 at front and a Motoz Tractionator Adventure at the rear. You may get more out of a set of Dunlop Trailmax Mission, but in wet conditions for me they become unpredictable.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      I didn't mind the front at all, it's mainly the rear I have the issue with. It just didn't last for me

    • @Hallnadventure
      @Hallnadventure 5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, AX41 Adventurecross are on my T7 and my 850GSA. They perform very good off-road, everything from muddy ATV trails in Wisconsin and rocky rutted backcountry roads in Colorado. They also perform very good on pavement, twistys and rain is no problem.
      This is my opinion… everyone has one. Ha!

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hallnadventure that's it, they are like assholes 😂

    • @Hallnadventure
      @Hallnadventure 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@onthebackwheel Thanks for your insight. First thing I do on all my vehicles, motorcycles or pickup trucks is fit the proper tires for my purpose.
      On a side note, I had the opportunity to travel to Australia in 1996. My son was a professional mountain bike racer from the USA. He qualified for the World Championships in Cairns, Australia. I traveled to Cairns, we had a heck of a good time, stayed at a resort on the beach. Great people, Jeff finished 17th in the World.
      I stayed a couple extra days and rented a 650 Yamaha Enduro. I rode up the coast to Cooktown, then I rode inland in the outback. Got stuck in a creek and decided with all the crocodiles in the area that I better stay outta the creeks… haha! The whole adventure in Australia for me and my son, who is 47 years old now was a real highlight! Ride on!

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hallnadventure sounds like a bloody good time to me. Cairns is a good spot

  • @maxw576
    @maxw576 5 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting as I've decided on the motoz rallz and dunlop missions for the same reasons. I've yet to use the Missions as their for a long upcoming trip, but the rallz worked great on difficult off road trails.

  • @flipfpv4539
    @flipfpv4539 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks Curtis i ride predominantly road with occasional gravel road coming off "stock tyers" on 2023 KLR adventure i'm going for the Michaelin Adventure probable a bit over kill but i'm expecting high milage form these tyers with good wet weather grip 😊

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      They look like a great upgrade from the stock tires mate

  • @malybullg
    @malybullg 2 месяца назад +2

    Mate the Rally Dual Venture TT front tyre is amazing. It is more aggressive than the tubeless version and it sticks like shit to a blanket and lasts ages both on and off road. I am on my 3rd rear tyre with it and only just turned it around to even up the wear. Definitely buying this one again.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад +1

      Really liking my front dualventure so far mate, good to hear you've had luck with them

  • @alexmoreno8156
    @alexmoreno8156 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have Motoz dualventure front and Rallz rear on my Tuareg. They are awesome off road. Totally confidence inspiring. They are noisy on road, but we should be wearing earplugs anyways. The dualventure does wobble some on road when you unload the front during acceleration.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Did you find it wobbled from the start or after a little bit of time?

  • @peterrick3339
    @peterrick3339 Месяц назад +1

    FWIW, on a 1250 GSA i have used Trailmax Mission front & rear. Excellent sealed road tyres. The front was marginal on unsealed and the rear surprisingly works better than i imagined it would on both dry & wet surfaces. Used 3 TMM rears. And they last. 15,000 kms for a rear. I was impressed.
    A Motoz DualVenture front and TMM rear and this was a good combo. I don't mind the rear getting a bit loose but i need the front to go where i put it and best it can, stay there. The front wheel of a GSA tends to go where it wants to go sometimes.
    Mitas E07+ pretty good too. Front is great sealed road tyre, OK unsealed. Rear Mitas was good sealed & OK unsealed. Rear did not last. The front does last.
    A Mitas front & TMM rear was a good combo.
    It's a matter of finding the tyre(s) that work for what you ride, how you ride, where you ride and on what surfaces. And then ride to what the tyres will let you do. When it comes to choosing tyres, some expensive wastes of money eventuate.
    So long as no hospital visits eventuate.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  Месяц назад

      Great comment mate and good to hear from some real world experience

  • @bryanreeme8584
    @bryanreeme8584 5 месяцев назад +1

    7000 miles on my rear Rallz on the old klr!.. didnt love my new dv front, but adjusted to it

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Goodness that's some decent mileage

  • @TokenTombstone
    @TokenTombstone 5 месяцев назад +1

    I use Maxxis Desert IT for my dual sport KLX 250. Works great everywhere except when it rains you need to be mindful of grip on pavement.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Nice mate, sounds like most knobbies on the road

  • @everydaybiker
    @everydaybiker 2 месяца назад

    Hey. Thanks for the video. The tyre answer for medium weight, like 701 690 tenere etc, is... the motoz Rallz for 50/50 or michelin tracker for nobby. easy,

  • @timlubbers2884
    @timlubbers2884 5 месяцев назад +3

    After trying the mission trailmax tires, I really don’t see myself going to anything else, unless it’s full on knobbies (for pure dirt work) …
    🤙🏻🤙🏻

  • @brunobb3356
    @brunobb3356 5 месяцев назад +3

    I had the Motoz Ralzz tires, I detest the front tire that makes an unsayable horible noise on the road , the rear tire is less noisy and has a good service life . For my road trip or you have to do a lot of road to go in the mountain paths, I take Michelin Anake wild or Pirelli STR that work very well on road and paths, and pebble pat and gravel 👍✌

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think you're alone with your thoughts on the front Rallz

    • @briangc1972
      @briangc1972 5 месяцев назад

      I just switched from the Pirelli Rally STR to the Metzler Tourance Next 2. On road they are much better than the Pirelli Rally STR and on gravel up to 1" thick they perform as well as the Pirelli Rally STR.

    • @brunobb3356
      @brunobb3356 5 месяцев назад

      @@briangc1972 thank you for the information 👍

  • @chukku2175
    @chukku2175 5 месяцев назад +5

    I kind of agree with most of this.
    There are just two issues:
    A) most knobby tires are only abailable as tube types. And since many modern ADV bikes only come with TL wheels (because customers are always dissappointed if they don't, which is actually very misguided exactly for this reason), not suitable for those bikes. Only exceptions that I know of: Motoz Rallz / Desert HT and Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ (successor to the E09).
    And since Motoz are very hard to find in Europe, my only option for my Tuareg is the Mitas.
    B) Longevity is a double edged sword. Many tires that are famous for their good mileage (like the yellow stripes/Dakar Versions of all Mitas tires and all Motoz except for the Rallz/Desert HT) achieve that with a hard rubber compound (low silica percentage). That makes them a menace on wet roads and you should only consider them if you live in a dry climate like Australia / Africa or some sunny US states. In central Europe you should really value your safety higher than good mileage.
    Of course there are also tires with good mileage AND wet grip (TKC 70, K60 Scout,...) I am just saying: don't make longevity your main priority if you expect to see rain from time to time

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Good comment mate and you make some very valid points. I thought Motoz would be more prevalent in the UK and Europe, must be still getting a foot hold

    • @chukku2175
      @chukku2175 5 месяцев назад

      I am speaking mostly from my experience here in Switzerland and neighboring countries. The only Swiss importer stopped selling Motoz last year, and I couldn't find any in Germany, France or Italy either. I tried to import some from Spain, but they delivered the wrong sizes and in TT and then went radio silent..
      So I am going to stick to Mitas for a while.. they are actually pretty awesome, try them out if you can get them in AUS.
      And yeah: I think that Motoz are easier to get in the UK than the rest of Europe.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      @@chukku2175 that sucks, but good you can still get other good brands 👊

    • @edwardlawson9200
      @edwardlawson9200 25 дней назад

      I've run a few motoz and so far am yet to find one that is a fan of wet bitumen.
      They're tough as old boots and cop the Australian summer well but that may be why they don't seem as popular in cold climates... Just my guess.

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater 5 месяцев назад +242

    It's really hard to take the advice of someone who dresses like Vincent and Jewels after they shot Marvin in the face in Pulp Fiction...

    • @thegreenman2030
      @thegreenman2030 5 месяцев назад +4

      Lol

    • @TheIdlesurfer
      @TheIdlesurfer 5 месяцев назад +5

      I'm glad it isn't fashion advice, but your man is talking tyres. I agree his basic point. I run my 701 on Michelin Trackers and been happy with Motoz Rallz and Anakee Wilds. Summer in the dry, my road wheels have Avon Treks which are fine on our dry earth and stone tracks. I run my Tiger on Dunlop Trailmax which are good until they get to a muddy incline but really good on the road.

    • @saadstrips6573
      @saadstrips6573 5 месяцев назад +6

      I agree with you. He should respect his audience and wear proper clothes.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +34

      Hahahaha that's a great comment. And no, I will not be wearing 'proper' clothes @saadstrips6573

    • @jimwood1068
      @jimwood1068 5 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂

  • @adventuremulemoto
    @adventuremulemoto 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tires, tires, tires....Great video! I'm a cheater, I have two sets of wheels for my 1250 GS. When I am heading out to do a BDR or Baja I run a 90/90-21 Trailmax Mission (trying the Trailmax Raid in Baja in two weeks) up front and Motoz adventure in the rear. I switch wheels when i get home and use my stock wheels with mostly street shoes for commuting and such.

  • @gobbel600
    @gobbel600 2 месяца назад

    Haha did you just wake up in your tent thinking....lets make a video 😂. Thanks for the advice never the less

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад

      Lol I did just wake up prior. Two young kids and shift work, not the best for sleeping

  • @zerotheklr650
    @zerotheklr650 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm still a Learner on a Klr650 adventure and now have d605 rear and irc trail gp 21f. Much happier now than the stock tires with 8000km on them.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hand heard of those specific irc tires. I didn't like the 605, glad you don't mind them

    • @zerotheklr650
      @zerotheklr650 5 месяцев назад

      I got 605 for road and getting through some dirt/mud sometimes. Irc from crf300l given to me new and for free couple days ago. I'm literally and beginner rider on a big girl. Go big or go home...lol

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      @@zerotheklr650 haha that's the spirit mate 👊

  • @dbmission123
    @dbmission123 5 месяцев назад +1

    On my WR250R I love Kenda Trakmaster Rear / Washougal Front. Mainly ride off-road, they're cheap to replace. I'll keep buying new ones more often then sacrifice off-road performance.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Ran similar on my klx250, not a bad way to go

  • @Max-ye9xg
    @Max-ye9xg Месяц назад +3

    My sister won't even let me walk around the house in my boxers and t-shirts and I'm handicapped with crutches

  • @ShadowVonChadwick
    @ShadowVonChadwick 5 месяцев назад +2

    Love the jarmies 😁 Sorry could not resist. 👍 Good chat, I forked my MT21 not running enough air while doing too many highway and twistie Ks. Rear 606 has stood up well and still giving good feel. Cheers. New bike coming in March, but calls for a 140/80-17" not a lot to chose from. 606 130/80-17 ? Or Trailmax Raid 140/80-17, don't know it.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      There's a few out there, e07, 805, tkc80. I think you'll be right running a 130 too which gives you a ton more options

    • @edwardlawson9200
      @edwardlawson9200 26 дней назад +1

      TKC70 Rocks is another good option for road with a decent amount of dirt hookup, plus it doesn't hate the wet bitumen.
      I was thinking about trying the E07+ for a rear next but I have just bought the CFmoto 450MT and now have an 18" rear.

  • @dmumladze
    @dmumladze 5 месяцев назад +2

    I think this is a fair review. RallZ or Tractionator are both are good. Not much difference between the two for size 150/70-18.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Cheers. Good how they come in 17 and 18s

  • @snail626
    @snail626 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm with you on the motoz tyres. So far there are unicorn on my 2nd set. Around 5k to 8k. Doing long fast straight Highway riding, twisty wet Rangers bitumen and Dirt. Just to get to the riding destination. A little bit more expensive then I would like but safety first. Far North Queensland riding

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      I hear the riding is pretty good up there

  • @mennonitemoto5941
    @mennonitemoto5941 5 месяцев назад +3

    Amen! I ride sand about 80% of my km and i FINALLY went to a full dessert tire and its a world of difference. Still street legal and its noisey on the hwy but im mostly offroad

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      They do get a bit noisy once they wear hey

    • @mennonitemoto5941
      @mennonitemoto5941 5 месяцев назад

      I am now using the Motoz Desert Tractionator ? I forget exactly what they re called. My Aprilia Tuareg 660 seems to be really difficult to control the front tire in the sand, all my friends who have more experience then me say the same thing, it's a really difficult bike to ride in the sand, gotta be 100% aggressive ALL the time and then it's okay.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      @@mennonitemoto5941 must be the tyre mate because I didn't find the Tuareg too bad in the sand. Certainly not easy still! I think you might have the desert ht?

    • @mennonitemoto5941
      @mennonitemoto5941 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah that sounds like the right tire. I'm a very new rider so I know that's part of my problem. But when I switched to my cousins Harley Pan Am it was WAAAAAY easier to ride in the sand! We have deep heavy dand where I live in canada

    • @mennonitemoto5941
      @mennonitemoto5941 5 месяцев назад

      I've also had fooled around with the suspension a lot and found that keeping things super stiff on the front is helpful and softer in the rear, but maybe that's wrong? Advice?

  • @Biggiesbikes
    @Biggiesbikes 5 месяцев назад +2

    I love my Karoo 4 , I have a lot of confidence in them.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      What kind of mileage you expecting?

    • @Biggiesbikes
      @Biggiesbikes 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@onthebackwheel The last set I got 10,000 on front till it was spent , i kept it on till 12,000 because iI got 6000 each out of two rears, I look for dirt where ever I can but there is always a lot of tar to get to there. They are excellent on the tar and they handle better than i ride on the dirt

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Biggiesbikes good to hear mate, that's pretty decent. Sounds like it's exactly what you're after

  • @MrRplo
    @MrRplo 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good video. Michelin Enduro Mediums are excellent full on off road tires that are street legal.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Great suggestion mate, serious tyres those

  • @mazdar100
    @mazdar100 5 месяцев назад +4

    Top vid and timely. I run Michelin Anakee Wild front a rear on the T7 but are getting the Michelin anakee adventure but they will be doing a road only trip and will be coming off as soon as I get back. Might consider the motoz you recommend when I fit the dirt tyres back on….

    • @nkubitz1981
      @nkubitz1981 5 месяцев назад

      How do you freaks not know how to spell “TIRE”??

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Sometimes I'm not sure if you yanks are joking or not!

    • @miclinda256
      @miclinda256 2 месяца назад +1

      I have the motoz on my t7 , and can’t be much better👍 awesome on tar ! And high speed …. Its a 80/80 tire 😂

  • @skyworx524
    @skyworx524 5 месяцев назад +2

    I run Motoz duelventure and Motoz Adventurer done 6k of mixed dirt and road tons of tread left , Great tyres cost a little more than the D606 or pirelli scorpion race .either way great tyres sets

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Good to hear mate. Interesting that the dualventure and scorpion rally are the same price for me

  • @FrancoisTX1974
    @FrancoisTX1974 5 месяцев назад +2

    I run Motoz dual venture in front and tractionator adventure in the back and they are amazing.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Good to hear mate

    • @FrancoisTX1974
      @FrancoisTX1974 5 месяцев назад

      @@onthebackwheel good thing is, for the front you can rotate to prevent scooping and extend life.

  • @gilvietor1918
    @gilvietor1918 5 месяцев назад

    Last September my buddies and I did the Idaho BDR, my close friend had the moto z and i had the Anakee. At the end 2066 miles I probably had 20% till bald and he was 50%. He was on a 2023 Africa Twin and I was on a 1090 adventure r, his bike also had more luggage and the CVT so quite a bit heavier than me. The Anakees were amazing in everything even a stream with silt on the bottom. I will try the Moto z after this front tire wears out, but man are changing tires on the KTM terrible with that inner seal.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Adventure tyres are bloody hard to change!

  • @daveo9844
    @daveo9844 5 месяцев назад +5

    Running Motoz gps tractionators on my Tiger 1200 RP. Good mileage, just need to back it off a touch on wet bitumen 😅🍻

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      She'd have some grunt too that big triple

    • @edwardlawson9200
      @edwardlawson9200 26 дней назад

      Yeah, that's the only thing that I've got issues with on the GPS... Wet bitumen. I've got a trailmax mission on the front and its wet weather traction is excellent and good in the dirt and gravel.

  • @Arturiel777
    @Arturiel777 5 месяцев назад

    Mitas EO2
    They do it all and give me 20k/mi. Used to use Heidi K60 but the center rib keeps them from hooking up in mud, sand, snow. Mitas front and back.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Had to look them up, solid looking all-rounder

  • @stevesanelli90
    @stevesanelli90 5 месяцев назад

    Great stuff crazy V-Strom dude🤙

  • @Advcrazy
    @Advcrazy 5 месяцев назад +2

    After trying most of the more aggressive adv tires I’ve come tot he same conclusion: scorpion race (mst) front is amazing, and the rallz works well in most condition and also outlasts most of its competition. Have to say though, I slightly prefer the michelin desert rear. But man it’s an expensive tire! My choice between those two tears would only come down to price and availability at the time as they’re both great tires.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah right, yet to try that one. Price is definitely a real breaker sometimes

  • @manybikes
    @manybikes 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great information. I agree with it all, except the AX41 not being good. Just because it only lasts 1500 miles doesn't mean it wasn't amazing "for a little bit." Motoz RalllZ rear 100% and the Dual Venture are great.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Cheers mate. I didn't mind the front, but if something isn't going to last I reckon you should just put a knobby on and get great grip too. I was running the tube type rear though, certainly a little different

    • @manybikes
      @manybikes 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@onthebackwheel for sure!!!

  • @snowgsadventures3232
    @snowgsadventures3232 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good coverage. Dual Venture are no better than the Adventure front they replace EXCEPT that you can flip them around to mitigate the horrendous scalloping the are prone to on heavier bikes (all adventure bikes). Motoz Adventure rear gave me 14,000kms…front Dual Venture without flipping gives you half that, with flipping you’ll get an extra 2000kms. I’ve personally run TKC80s, Trailmax Missions, STRs, K60s, and can say my Motoz Adventure rear has been the best but am still hunting for a front with off-road bite that doesn’t shake at 135kmph+ (DV and Rallz do). STRs and Trailmax Mission are good to 200kmph+ but have little dirt bite. My new 1290R (0kms) comes with AX41s and I expect them to evaporate like TKC80s.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      That big 1290 might be a bit rude on tires mate 😂

  • @modzso2
    @modzso2 5 месяцев назад +4

    So far I have tried Michelin Desert Race and Mitas E12/E13. Both has very good grip, but mitas seems to last longer.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      I'm looking forward to the new mitas xt+ that's replacing them

  • @BobsBikingAdventures
    @BobsBikingAdventures 23 дня назад

    Could depend on where you live but for me, the best compromise are the Michelin Anakee Wilds. You can do motorway, track day and mud, on a big adventure bike. Ideal for the UK. They're not perfect at anything but they're much better than average at just about everything. Riding full knobblies on a 250kg adventure hike on wet, winding tarmac is not my idea of a good time 😅

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  23 дня назад +1

      I agree, definitely got to factor in your conditions

  • @NunyaBusiness...
    @NunyaBusiness... 5 месяцев назад

    This is solid advice if you are heavy in the dirt, and run some pavement to get there, but for somebody who runs 90% pavement and their "dirt" is just forest roads I think the 80/20s, 60/40s, etc. have a place. At least here in the USA. As I've never been to your beautiful part of the globe I take you at your word and would follow your advice!
    I'm in this 90/10 category myself. I live down a mile long dirt road that is washboards, potholes, and a bit of gravel, so a pure street tire won't work for me. Every time I ride I have a minimum of 2 miles of stuff that street tires suck at, but I may not ride any other "dirt" than that 2 miles in a day. I'd much rather have a tire that can handle my road and others like it on occasion, but can also run 80 MPH (130 KPH) for a few hours on the interstate highway without vibrating, being obnoxiously loud, or disintegrating in 2000 miles (3200 km) like a knobby tire would.

    • @NunyaBusiness...
      @NunyaBusiness... 5 месяцев назад

      I should add, I love the channel and am subbed. Really just commenting to boost interaction and try to help you grow!

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate! Sounds like you've got it sorted

  • @craigwade8054
    @craigwade8054 5 месяцев назад +2

    Just put the rally and the rallz on the 690. Good to hear as I ride seq trails. Cheers mate

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Great choice! I'll let you know how the dualventure TT goes

    • @craigwade8054
      @craigwade8054 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@onthebackwheel sweet. I nearly chose it too. But I was curious to try the pirelli first. Love your work mate. Cheers

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@craigwade8054 thanks mate. I loved the Pirelli, will definitely be using it in the future

    • @drifterdave01
      @drifterdave01 5 месяцев назад

      Just don’t get a flat. Ever changed a Motoz yourself?

  • @FeralPanda87
    @FeralPanda87 Месяц назад

    So far I'm a huge fan of the Tusk Dsport tires. They are a DOT legal aggressive knobby and they seem to do great on and off road on my DRZ400 and they're cheap!

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  Месяц назад

      There have been a few people really rating them. Sound like a really good small bike option

  • @ElectronNinja
    @ElectronNinja 2 месяца назад

    Echoes a lot of what I've experienced on the T7!
    The stock "adventure" tires were really only half decent on road, and even then the pirellis smoked fast. Taking the stock pirellis offroad was......well there were better ideas that could have been taken.
    I ended up with two wheel sets. One with Missions for daily riding/commuting, and the hooligan set with a Motoz DV front and adv rear. Even with the closer lugs it still tractors through mud.
    The motoz I've found to be great tires overall for knobbies. Decent grip and they last fooooooreveeeer lol. 6kmi+ on a rear and it still had tread😮
    The missions have kinda meh wet traction, but always surprise me how well their tread grabs offroad. Just stay away from soft muck like any other "Adv" tire.

  • @adamrichards2072
    @adamrichards2072 5 месяцев назад +1

    Done about 800km on ax41's. I'll probably get that again out of the rear and I'll be replacing it with desert ht's.

  • @dirtbike_viking
    @dirtbike_viking 4 дня назад

    When shopping for tyres I look at how they perform for the riding I am doing not mileage. I never had an enjoyable experience with motoz on any bike. Not sure about the other tyres in your line up there because I have no experience with them but I have had great fun and a lot of confidence with the Anakee wild Michelin tyres.

  • @robbieandbeckie
    @robbieandbeckie 5 месяцев назад +1

    I run Shinko 244's on my KLR and DR650, Michelin Anakee Wild on the Africa Twin. Happy with them ao far, but looking at the new Tusk 2 Track for the ATAS. Half the price of the Michelin. I run street tires on my cruiser, Metzler 888 on the Yamaha Raider. Wife says I have to many bikes, I was thinking about a T7. Go figure.

  • @nicolasfarbos5381
    @nicolasfarbos5381 5 месяцев назад +2

    I don't know about Australia but in Europe the mechelin tracker is a street legal enduro tyre and really cheap !
    Some Motoz enduro tyres are olso street legal but more expensive and hard to find, at least in france...

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      I just had a look and yes, we get them. Nice looking tyres

  • @jimbefit3073
    @jimbefit3073 Месяц назад

    First video I've ever seen narrated by a buy so comfortable in his boxers!😊

  • @simob7862
    @simob7862 2 месяца назад +1

    Now you set a benchmark may have to have a different set of board shorts at camera angle change hay wonder if rip curl will sponsor that. 😮
    Love the vids just got a triumph x400 scramble mainly been just touring 👍🏻

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад

      Mate I'm tempted to accept that challenge 😂

  • @bpositive8551
    @bpositive8551 21 день назад

    I don' t have any practical experience with motorcycles but I have watched at least 2 youtube videos and I now consider myself an expert.
    My tire-less research has brought me to a conclusion that I firmly believe every motorcyclist will agree with.
    There are only 2 tyres a motorcycle will ever need:
    1. Front 2. Rear. 3. Tubeless

  • @TRAVERSE_ADV
    @TRAVERSE_ADV 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tried the RallZ front? Seems people dont like them, but I've found it a good tyre so far over 7000ks on the ftont and still plenty of life left, no traction issues so far. Run 28psi and never drop or inflate pressure.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Nice mate, glad to hear they are working for you. I've heard really mixed with them. The dualventure seems to just be a newer, better version

  • @noelbowerman1562
    @noelbowerman1562 5 месяцев назад

    I run Anakee adventures on my CB500X, they grip far better than they should ,pretty good milage too.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Nice mate. I might be trying them next month on an AT, keen to see how they hold up

  • @tndeere2
    @tndeere2 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been riding for 40 plus years and have found you get what you pay for. Bridgestone, Dunlop and Michelin all have served me well over the years. Avoid the cheap China tires

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      The Shinko's are getting a fair bit of love now days. But yes, can't skimp on tyres

  • @MotoMission.
    @MotoMission. 5 месяцев назад

    Great vid. I gave you a sub Gonna try the 909 rr soon

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Cheers mate. I was just speaking with the tyre shop and you can't get the 908rr in Aus anymore. Looks like the trailmax raid is replacing it

  • @TenereShorts
    @TenereShorts 5 месяцев назад

    This was great. Thankyou pal. I ride a Tenere off-road and agree the scorpion rally pirelli is garbage off-road - like riding a supermoto in the dirt !
    What psi do you recommend on a Tenere for aggressive off-road?

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Cheers mate. Depends on the tyre. 28/28 isn't a bad place to start

  • @tonyrdr7207
    @tonyrdr7207 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good points however I definitely disagree with the Starcross very flimsy side walls. If rapid deflation occurs during a puncture then this tire can cause loss of control within a few meters. It is the total opposite of a 606 and other heavy duty fronts that can be ridden to camp flat.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting, I've had one person say otherwise but I haven't had personal experience with them going flat

    • @tonyrdr7207
      @tonyrdr7207 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@onthebackwheel not so much having it go flat it is the lack of a substantial sidewall that causes the loss of control. All tires can go flat but with this one you can loose control within meters

  • @drott150
    @drott150 5 месяцев назад

    You ride large, heavy dual-purpose bikes. Aggressive bite is critical on these sleds off road. Especially if you ride at any speed at all. However, if you ride small, flyweight type dual purpose - like an XT225 as I do - a more balanced 70/30 dirt/street tire can work great offroad and on road. The bike's low weight, limited power and calmer speeds means the limitations of not having full knobbies is a very reasonable compromise in exchange for decent roadability and much longer wearing tires.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Good point. I used Dunlop 605s on my klx250 and they worked quite well. Tried them on my big KLR and they were terrible!

  • @sebbwebbo7557
    @sebbwebbo7557 2 месяца назад

    I'm mainly a street rider (because "real offroad" is forbidden in the whole country and you barely find gravel roads that you can ride legally) and I tested all kind of tires.
    Currently my favourite tire is the Conti TKC70. You can ride it nearly as good as a 100 % street tire and it works fine on forestry roads, gravel, etc as long as it is relatively dry. Ofc it's useless in mud or sand.
    It's also really good in winter - as long as there is no ice on the road, the tires are doing pretty well, also when the temperature is around ~ 0°C
    Bonus: It lasts very long, compared to other tires.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад

      What country are you in mate?

    • @sebbwebbo7557
      @sebbwebbo7557 2 месяца назад

      @@onthebackwheel Austria. A small country and really heavily populated, compared to it's size
      I would have to go to slovenia or further away to eastern europe, to have some proper adv bike fun

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад +1

      @@sebbwebbo7557 ah yep. In any case, can't beat being on the bike even if it's not hard adventure/enduro

  • @scotfield3950
    @scotfield3950 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this

  • @jacbosmitt
    @jacbosmitt 3 месяца назад

    Hopefully you can test out the tusk 2track adventure tires sometime soon, they have good reviews so far from a lot of channels.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  3 месяца назад

      So far we don't get Tusk into Australia. I'll keep an eye out

  • @rickalexander3573
    @rickalexander3573 2 месяца назад

    Good and informative video. I'm definitely thinking Motoz. I like the Mission trail max too. You're the only guy I've ever heard though not lke the Bridgestone Battle Axe. The only gripe I've ever heard about them was the wear rate,everyone seems to like the performance though?

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад +1

      Cheers. Performance was solid for the style of tyre, but the rear wear rate was horrible

  • @gregwolf3296
    @gregwolf3296 4 месяца назад

    Love the 908RR on the rear on my 1090 but the matching front Dunlop gives me wobbles on the road.I’m still trying to find a tire as good as the TKC80 for the front. Any recommendations for a knobby good for 180-200kmh?

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  4 месяца назад

      Mate I don't think any are 'officially' rated for 200, but the tubeless dualventure is better performing off-road than the tkc80 and still not too bad on it

  • @Happypillz
    @Happypillz 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great content as always. I do a little off road with my DE but mostly on roads. I ride with 50/50 tires. I use Hidenau K60 Scouts. They are pretty good tires and very well priced they are similar to Motoz GPZ. Unfortunately Motoz stuff is just unobtanium in Canada where I live. I even have them on my Royal Enfield Int650 and I really like them in it, the bike handles logging roads very well. The K60 scouts are good for my area because the side lugs, unlike where you ride we got nothing but sharp blast rock and loose gravel. There is no going fast on this stuff because the DE just digs in with the skiny front tire and the 530 lbs of weight, I think a wider 19 inch would do better. This is another reason why I don't ride with hard luggage, I almost busted my leg more then once. Any who great content. Not sure if you took a look at the k60 scouts, K60 rangers are more nobby but very loud on the road.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      I'm not a fan of hard luggage at all for the rough stuff either. My local stores don't have a lot of Heidenau. I can get the KLR size rear but not for the big 800DE

    • @Happypillz
      @Happypillz 5 месяцев назад

      @@onthebackwheel Well Motoz is made in Aus isn't it? The k60s scouts are pretty inexpensive its 120 for front and 220 for rear. Motoz are like 160 front and 420 for rear. Crazy.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      @@Happypillz ouch, that's mental. This set was 480 aud. No doubt the scouts would be cheaper here too though

    • @myronhorvathsk
      @myronhorvathsk 5 месяцев назад +1

      I have an Africa Twin 1100 AS and I am running K60 Scouts on it and I really like them. I'm pretty much due to replace the rear one but I do have about 22,000Km on it and just over 8000km of that I was loaded very heavy and made it up to just north of the Arctic Circle to the NWT border, and it was wet and snotty all the way up the Dempster and back down and my bike stayed under me where it belonged. lol. I am sure a more knobby rear would have been burnt off just from the trip alone.

  • @gregs7194
    @gregs7194 5 месяцев назад

    Hi Cusrtis, greatings from UK. What is your opinion on motoz tractionator adventure tyres front and rear on Aprilia Tuareg. Going to do TET sections in Poland this year. From what I've learned around 40% of those sections is sand. Now to get to Poland me and my mate will be traveling through few countries mainy on motorways. So I need bit of a advice regarding what tyres to put on. Thanks in advance for your opinion.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Hi there. I'd go with the dualventure front tubeless. Makes it easy for you with the tubeless rims. Depending on how hard you go off-road you could go the tractionator or Rallz

    • @meinekleineweltreise
      @meinekleineweltreise 5 месяцев назад

      I‘m living in Germany. Right next to the border of Poland. And mate, here in this area it’s sandy everywhere. 😤 I would recommend till the border of Poland just on your old set of tires and change them to something aggressive in any border town you want. Maybe the RallZ or D908. What ever you will do, don’t forget to have fun! 🤣

  • @michaelh2034
    @michaelh2034 5 месяцев назад

    Use what you like for the conditions you're in. Experiment. Personally I like certain Kenda products but for years I used Metzler then Pirelli MT16. I also used Dunlops. All had their good and bad points.

  • @hughmac7423
    @hughmac7423 5 месяцев назад +3

    Have you tried the Mita E07 Plus? I have them on my Pan Am, find them fantastic in the dirt, not flash in the mud but okay, and good on the road in the wet. 90% of my riding is commuting on sealed roads.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Mate not yet. I was tempted by the e07 rear and would like to try the new enduro trail. Certainly lots of love for the e07

    • @ToolkiT73UK
      @ToolkiT73UK 5 месяцев назад +2

      I have E7's and they are great on dry(ish) dirt, but in UK winter mud lacking a bit ..

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 5 месяцев назад

    I have enjoyed my Tusk brand enduro tires on my 01 KLR 650.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      They get a good wrap. Shame we don't get tusk gear in Aus

    • @upsidedowndog1256
      @upsidedowndog1256 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@onthebackwheel
      They are aggressive but are lasting longer than I expected. Both including a front inner tube were right under $200 USD. I have about 2500 miles on them, mostly pavement, and they are not quite halfway done. They are quite loud at highway speeds but my pipe is much louder!

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@upsidedowndog1256 haha that'll do it

  • @markrich9619
    @markrich9619 Месяц назад +1

    Motoz GPS, great longevity and reasonable performance on and offroad

  • @scottieray
    @scottieray 26 дней назад

    In a perfect world...I'd have two sets of tires and wheels for my KTM 1290 S. My world is far from perfect. I am considering the Missions though as my next tire. I live in the Arkansas Ozarks and also need a tire that can handle a twisty road on a wet day.

  • @stevestevoh508
    @stevestevoh508 5 месяцев назад

    I probably could agree on the front for a t7, very interested in how the motoz dual venture goes.
    As for motoz on the rear, well they are ok, but on my T7 I only got 3000km at very best and it was kind of awful for half of that.
    On dry hard packed dirt roads with that baby head type gravel the motoz was absolutely terrible, and quite often you would have to eat up hundreds of km on such a surface.
    After about 1500km I found they are like a slick on those roads.
    Best rear off road I found was the MT21, but be prepared to buy another one pretty soon, they don't last, but they are $150 so....
    I'm using a pirelli rally race on the rear atm, not perfect, great on road, not bad off road, although haven't used in wet conditions, handles the aforementioned surfaces much better than the motoz, just over 2000km and still looking pretty good, might get 4000km, that'd be a record for me.
    Great vid, brave man to do a tyre vid with an opinion 😂.
    Keep up the good work 👍👍

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Haha yep, it cops some heat. The 18 rally race rear is mean, good choice

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Haha yep, it cops some heat. The 18 rally race rear is mean, good choice

  • @TheMisterNebo
    @TheMisterNebo 5 месяцев назад +1

    No.. just no. There are VERY good reasons to put 40/60 or 60/40 on and they have been the BEST tyres I could have gotten. Not everyone tows their bike to the dirt track and tows it back. You have to get there. And you don't want knobbies on the highway in the wet I can guarantee you that. You also don't want slicks in dirt, so yes, there's defo a market for in-between tyres, and for most adventure riders, I'd argue they'd have a more FUN ride with that type of tyre. For people towing their dirtbikes, sure, go full knobbies, and for cafe racers, put some nice slicks on with minimal grooves. For most adventure riders where people do a bit of blacktop, a bit of dirt, mostly hardpacked, and some river crossings, Motoz Tractionator GPS are all they will ever want.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Lots of love for the GPS, solid tyres

  • @theman3343
    @theman3343 5 месяцев назад +1

    have heard great things about the motoz lineup, too bad they are a bit hard to get in the US still. really would like to try the GPS on my 800GS. my shinko 705s have been a solid commuter tire, but every winter when things start turning to mud I really wish I had something with better off-road manners. I think my 705s are more comparable to the missions, do you think the GPS would have better manners in sand/mud, if even just a little?

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      I haven't used the 705's, but the Motoz are a little bit more off-road oriented. Definitely worth a try

  • @MotorDanko
    @MotorDanko 5 месяцев назад

    bro, i don't know... but i loved the AX41's... they were great....

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      I didn't mind the front, till it got muddy. The rear just didn't last for me though. Lots of people seem to not mind them though

  • @patriot1182
    @patriot1182 2 месяца назад +1

    100% correct!

  • @davidellis9358
    @davidellis9358 2 месяца назад

    Great Video, I have been running the Bridgestone AX41 on my Norden 901 expedition and your right , the wear rate is shit 3000 km and i am one of the old farts that's now venturing off road and loving it . But I am very happy with the grip both on road and off . My question is does the Motoz rall z have a similar grip leave on road wet and dry . Cheers Dave

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад +1

      Gday Dave. It's slightly less in the dry and a fair bit less in the wet. Thing is, WAYYYY better mileage

    • @davidellis9358
      @davidellis9358 2 месяца назад

      @@onthebackwheel Thanks that's helps heaps

  • @Badlander87X
    @Badlander87X 5 месяцев назад +1

    I will stick with metzler karroos i had them on my 2002 varadero 1000cc and loved them and the life i got from them on and off road in ssand and mud but also on road . I will be outfiting my new bike suzuki vstrom 1050de with karoos for my trip

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Which karoos are you using bud?

    • @Badlander87X
      @Badlander87X 5 месяцев назад

      @@onthebackwheel I was using karoo3s at the time . And I also used karoo streets they where more of an aggressive 70street/30off Road.
      But I will be going with the karoo4s or karoo5s if they come out in time.
      When I had the karoo3s on my varadero I would ride my varadero like a big trails bike and it would just hold great

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      @@Badlander87X I had the karoo 3 on a review bike and found they really struggled in the muddy stuff. I'm looking the look at the karoo 4 rear

    • @Badlander87X
      @Badlander87X 5 месяцев назад

      @@onthebackwheel yeah I never found the had a struggle on muddy stuff I did find very light grade sand there was some annoying slippage but I had countered that with standing up with my torso more positioned towards being inline with the rear wheel helped on that problem

  • @iynvfy1536
    @iynvfy1536 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good talk 👍🏼 but hey! Do you know if it’s possible to convert these rims to accept a tubeless tire?

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад +1

      You can put a tubeless kit in them, people love them

    • @iynvfy1536
      @iynvfy1536 5 месяцев назад

      @@onthebackwheel You da man! Others told me the front wheel wasn’t set up to be converted

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      @@iynvfy1536tubliss.com/tubliss/. Check them out. Mates run them and love them

  • @Janpva.
    @Janpva. 3 месяца назад

    It is literally impossible to find a front tire for my bike (110/70 r17)... can I put a rare 120/90 17 as a front tire ? thank you

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  3 месяца назад +1

      I wouldn't think so, that's a very different size

  • @scanadaze
    @scanadaze 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks. Yet. For now, I will stick to my KENDA 60/40. I will keep those in mind.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Which Kenda are they mate?

    • @scanadaze
      @scanadaze 5 месяцев назад +1

      @onthebackwheel 60/40. My motorcycle came with the noby. It was all over the place. Very hard to handle. Just under pressure. My doul sport is like driving a normal vehicle. DP 4.10-18 58P for the rear. Outside saying made in Taiwan. Dirt and oil on the road. I should have lost the bike. It was never a problem. To me, personally. They are scary. They are that good. As long as they are not at full pressure. Like 5lb under.

  • @australiaray
    @australiaray 2 месяца назад

    do you still say mt21 frontd606 rear for the klr if i ride more ofroad ?

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  2 месяца назад +1

      Certainly the best value/performance. The Pirelli rally front is better and the Motoz Rallz or adventure is pretty good too

  • @soupbums
    @soupbums 2 дня назад +1

    1: if you race professionally yes
    2:if you don't race no
    There you go

  • @MudSlingMX
    @MudSlingMX 5 месяцев назад

    Mitas co2 stoneking is the best all round rear tyre hands down

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      I hear they are great on the smaller bikes

  • @therealturbofanisme
    @therealturbofanisme 3 месяца назад

    says "just go for the full knobbies" as he points at a Motoz Dual Venture 40/60 road/dirt tire. That's not a real knobby! That said, it's far better in the dirt than most ADV tires, and is the one I recommend most. But it's NOT a full knobby. It performs well on the road, and very well in the dirt.
    There *are* tires out there that last well, work reasonably well on road, and perform excellent in the dirt. Motoz Dual Venture front and Motoz Rallz or Adventure rear. By far the best compromise I've found.
    I'm looking forward to trying the new Tusk 2-track tires, but will probably only run the rear - the motoz front is so, so good, I don't plan to ever run anything else.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  3 месяца назад

      You end up recommending the same tyres I recommended! If you think dualventure is a 40/60 tyre you're crazy, it's 80/20 and the tube type slightly more. The Pirelli I also recommend is even more dirt biased. Yes they aren't mx tyres, but they are no good anywhere but the dirt

    • @therealturbofanisme
      @therealturbofanisme 3 месяца назад

      @@onthebackwheel I just mean it's confusing to say "go for a full knobby!" then point at a tire that... isn't a full knobby. Motoz call it a 70/30 on their website, I'd say that tracks for the tubed version like you've got there in your video, and the tubeless is a solid 60/40. But that's splitting hairs.
      The point is:
      A tire that will last 10000 miles on the front and 4000+ miles on the rear of a 100+hp, 500 lb adv bike is NOT a full knobby, and motoz tires will do just that. They absolutely are good outside dirt tracks, silly to assert otherwise.
      Is it a Q5s? No. Is it a great mixed-use ADV tire that offers more grip in the dirt than most other ADV tires? You betcha. Is it a full knobby? Absolutely not, and saying it is confuses people. You could argue that the MT21 is a full knobby but even that is still very much a dual sport tire with harder compound to last longer, though it will wear much quicker and perform more aggressively than the Motoz example you've got there.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  3 месяца назад +2

      @@therealturbofanisme I think we're on the same page here, just different wording. I get what you mean, but in adv speak these are pretty well full knobbies (the tube type that is). I've run the mt21, good tyre

  • @tazyt3388
    @tazyt3388 18 дней назад

    K60 scout front d606 rear grip everywhere reasonably long lasting

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  18 дней назад +1

      Interesting combo. I ran the mt21 and 606 rear a couple of times, loved it

    • @tazyt3388
      @tazyt3388 18 дней назад +1

      @@onthebackwheel mt21 is a great tyre my goto for the xr600 front but the alp likes the k60 d606 here in tas gotta try these combos to find the sweet spot aye

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  18 дней назад +1

      @@tazyt3388 💯, it's always a juggle

  • @MarkDrummond
    @MarkDrummond 4 дня назад

    "There's only two types of tires ... ones that work in sand and mud, and the rest."

  • @Dave-sw2dm
    @Dave-sw2dm 5 месяцев назад +1

    I run shinko 705 on my adventure bike. I don't do single track or mud.

    • @onthebackwheel
      @onthebackwheel  5 месяцев назад

      Nice mate, lots of love for the 705