Is the updated 2020 Kia Cadenza a BETTER luxury sedan than the Lexus ES 350?
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- The UPDATED Kia Cadenza has been given the refreshed treatment. Under the hood is a 3.3L V6 290HP mated to an 8-speed automatic transmission. It's exterior has been taken to a new level with revised front and rear fascias, headlights, taillights and much more. On the inside fit and finish is on am all new level and there is plenty of space for everyone inside. Is the 2020 Kia Cadenza a BETTER luxury sedan than the Toyota Avalon.
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The Telluride...the Stinger and now this refreshed look of the Cadenza...Kia has really been stepping their game up. Of course it's not going to appeal to a select group of people for various reasons, but to each his or her own. They look great to me. I could definitely see myself driving this. Seems like all the car manufactures are going for that sleek, futuristic design. Kia's on the right track.
You are so very right!
Don't forget the K900, which knocks them all out of the water! Unfortunately they don't even list it on their Canadian website, and good luck finding a dealership that has one for test drives. I think they need to work on their marketing because the products are awesome.
Yes, a few things, however. I would love if the Telluride and the upcoming Optima offered an alternative to the faux wood trim on the higher levels. And lose the piano black or minimize it. This Cadenza has a nice interior until you get to the piano black on the doors and especially on the dash. I know a lot of even upscale cars have it, but this period will be known as the piano black era. And it'll date the cars. Otherwise, Kia's new designs are terrific. I like the Stinger, no faux wood. But this car also has faux wood and I think Kia should do like Mazda. Put real wood in it or just use another type of trim.
Glad to see Kia continuing to keep their cars updated instead of eliminated in a SUV/CUV world. Some of us still buy cars.
I'm just fearful of the sedan sales numbers dropping to the point where they are cancelled. Honda sold 15,000 Accords last month, down considerably from what they normally average in a year; Toyota moved 1,500 Avalon sedans last month, 27,000 for all of 2019. Car sales numbers are scary right now.
@@texan903 scary high or scary low?
@@JohnDoe-gc1kt Low.
Ive only ever owned a car or minivan. I'll buy a minivan before going to an SUV.
I have been driving my Cadenza since 2015 and love it. Best looking and driving auto I've ever owned and I drove Lexus for 15 years prior to buying my Cadenze.
Thanks for sharing that great input and pesrpective!
This is not the Kia I remembered 20+ years ago. They have come such a long way and now are dominating. To hell with badge snobs btw
You are so very right!
So glad Kia kept the almost 300hp V6 and didn't put a buzzy turbo 2.0 in the Cadenza. Really looking forward to your drive review of this handsome car, with or without juju beans! '-)
Thanks man! Stay tuned Chris!
I love the Z-shaped tail lights. CadenZa. 👍
Z shaped tail lights Z for zonk
I totally agree with you!
I like the way that you think.
Grill almost looks Maserati-ish
Yes it is
I totally agree with you!
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
And BMWish too. Typical Asian carbon copiers.
Rvssian Boi That grill looks nearly identical to a Maserati grill what do you mean?
I've always been a fan of the Cadenza, it's been one of the best kept luxury cars out there in my opinion. Glad to see Kia keeping it around.
I totally agree with you!
I test drove the cadenza and azera back to back an hour each. The cadenza was better in sportiness and driving experience. I'd choose the cadenza!
Thanks for that great input from your experience!
ken meister which year Azera
@@JustxLiving909 both azera and cadenza were 201
8 models
Thanks, "I'm not kidding when I say this is the best review I've ever had
If it was AWD it would have been perfect
Thanks Mitchell for letting me share it with you!
Why do you need awd in an sedan....
Isn't the previous one awd, the second generation? If you live in North America u need awd
@@chriskrilly9021 why? because of snow?
@@AliRaza-jk5bp yes. If you live or have lived in the northeast NYC to be exact and have previously owned an awd,(for me) its a must. Yes i can drive decently in my fwd cadenza but who doesn't want more control with an awd .
I think KIA and Hyundai make the best infotainment systems.
Acura and Lexus still don't understand how to make good infotainment interfaces.
I totally agree with you!
I think it's because the Japanese designed it. The infotainment of Chinese and Korean cars in the same Asian country is not complicated. But Japanese cars are complicated. Their characteristics are also revealed in architecture. The architecture of China and Korea is simple and neat, and Japanese architecture is sophisticated, but it is too complicated.
Or mazda 🙄
My exact thoughts. Kia and Hyundai make the best infotainment systems in their segment. The only systems better than theirs are that of the Germans, Volvo, Land Rover, and Tesla. But all of they are much more expensive than both Kia and Hyundai.
I agree with the glass black Zonk but.. Kia thank you very much for not adding Turbo and for not adapting to that CVT TRANSMISSION you are getting big deal to consider buying for sure 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 awesome review. That the kind of cars I like to watch reviews.. People cars.. Very entertaining 😊👍🏾
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one.
When is the 2020 Kia Cadenza coming out I don’t see it
Loooks gorgeous , that gloss black looks amazing makes it look even more premium with that aluminum wood trim
I have a Stinger GT2 and I am loving the KIA line up lately. This company came a long way since the 90’s like their sister company Genesis and Hyundai. I get compliments on my Stinger on almost daily basis. Good job guys. I would most definitely consider another KIA after my Stinker. Lol
There will always be at least one zonk.
No car is perfect!
I like it but I don’t I like dual exhaust but I hate cleaning them when I detail my 2017 Cadenza
This car is gorgeous 🙏. Hyundai and Kia really stepping their game up with their sedans. No reason at all to feel embarrassed driving a Kia like in the past.
I am so glad that you liked this one Miguel. People need to open their eyes and see what Kia is bringing to the table.
It seems as if it´s becoming an increasingly rare experience to watch reviews of beautiful new sedans. This one is no exception. Absolutely gorgeous car, very nice interior, great colour scheme and I also like that BMW/Maserati grill up front.
I am so glad that I could share this with you.
My wife also doesn't like lumbar support. These women and their naturally well-supported backs - lucky.
Front design looks like Maserati. Great car design
Something isn't right about the car they show cased. Possibly a pre-production for NA? Its missing a ton of features compared to the pre-refresh limited. It looks like a base car without badging.
I am sure it is a preproduction.
purhased a cadenza 2017. then I found out they stopped the production for the cadenza and im upset i mean this car is amazing and you never go wrong with it. wish they would bring it back
Love the Kia Cadenza. I have bought two of them in the past, a 2016 and 2017 model.
If quality of reviews translated to subscribers, you'd be well over 1million my friend! Keep it up!
Thanks my friend for saying such wonderful things!
I just think that objectively speaking, this is a REALLY nice car. And the fact that there are those out there who see KIA and think the worst. Just look at that car and tell you you’re still thinking of the 90s or even early to mid 2010s! Companies eventually become great and they had to have started somewhere. I can still remember a time not that long ago when people were wondering what the hell Samsung was! Lol
I totally agree with you!
I'm sitting here salivating over this Cadenza! I'm trying to come up with some good numbers for the Powerball, so hopefully I'll win, buy myself a Cadenza, and later on, retire! Kia is on the ball with their products - the Forte, the Stinger, the Cadenza, and now the Telluride! GO KIA!!!!!!!!
Great job Lori.
Thanks for showing Lori some love!
Kia is knocking them out of the park
You are so right about that!
Subscribed because you gave creds to your wife! Good man.
Thanks Matt for saying that and joining the Raiti's Rides family. I can't do this by myself.
Strong Work Lori !!!!!!
rafael millan she did awesome!
Kia is doing it right with the sedans. These new ones are looking quite good.
I totally agree with you!
Good job on the review despite the fact that you can’t drive the car or show the features of it when powered up. Always appreciate your reviews as they are quite thorough.
I think the Lexus ES is better. It’s better looking, probably more reliable, nicer cabin, more power, better fuel economy and has a hybrid option. Maybe the cadenza has a "Maserati grill", but the back look like a Hyundai Ioniq. Anyway, I’m still choosing the Lexus because they have their own design while Kia just copying everything else. That’s my opinion.
Great review Raiti👍
Thanks Roberto for the compliment and I am so glad you shared you thoughts.
This channel has become my favorite for car reviews, keep up the good work
That really means the world! I appreciate you being part of the Raiti's Rides Family!
Yay! No iPad on the dash! Thanks for the shoutout ;) Now if it only had AWD. Are we certain it won't be offered in AWD?
For some odd reason, I think that this was the base trim on display. I have seen pictures of the higher trim level which appears to have amazing styling and features.
Great job brother Joe reviewing all the new cars and suvs from Chicago auto show keep Volvo and Buick on your list I'm from new York and it's a big honor to me if i meet with you in New York city auto show this year .
Thanks my friend! I will be doing the NY auto show and would love to meet you!
went to car show like 2 yrs ago and sat in this model and the inside is huge. probably only seen 3 on the last 2 yrs
almost forgot this model existed
I totally agree with you!
I know right!
Very clean review 👍 would honestly consider one they just need to change the badge 😬
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this Cadenza. Thanks for the wonderful compliment.
zombieshooterful Depends on the reason you’re buying it and if you’re in the market for the badge or the car itself. You could consider leasing for a few years.
Order the K badge. Alot of stinger owners have it
KIA seriously needs to update their logo.
for me, that KIA logo is the deal breaker.
The logo is there to remind you what you are really driving, a KIA.
Yall need help. There is nothing wrong with the logo, rather something wrong with yalls ego.
@@mohamedalkaboom Kia makes great cars, id take one over any european hunk of junk any day.
@@blues3983 yes, it is a Kia, which is not a bad thing.
@@andybub45 how is a european car a hunk of junk?
Soon ALL car companies will have to realize that not everyone wants a suv,crossover,or pickup truck.Kudos,KIA & Good Job,Joe!
Numbers don’t lie man. I love sedans. Especially manual performance ones, but you got to follow the money.
Been noticing all the uploads recently, absolutely killing it
Thanks Niko! We have some really great footage from the Chicago Auto Show.
These are the same headlights from the 10th gen Accord and also just a little bit of the same design as the same front facia from the Ford fusion 2017 and up. Overall this car is amazing and i will definitely be purchasing this for myself
Hard for me to believe that this is the top limited trim for the Cadenza. What happened to the HUD, and the power tilt\telescoping steering wheel that are both present in the 2019 model? I like the fact the 8 speed auto finally made it, and it's refreshed looks are stellar, but if they're skimping on the tech, it's not gonna compete very well with the Avalon, or the Maxima.
That is a very good point!
5 years ago, this would have easily been mistaken with a super luxury car, upwards of $50k - $60k
You are so very right!
Nothing thrilling about the exterior, but the interior is VERY nice. I love how when you see a lot of gloss black, you can't help putting your fingerprints all over it. 😂
Fun fact: Good and Plenty is the oldest brand of candy in the U.S. 1893 😉
Thanks for the fun fact! I didn't know that.
Would kill to see either more power or AWD honestly. Same goes for the Lexus ES 350.
I agree with you Zak!
When you get halfway through the review, and only then realize you're watching a review for a car that was discontinued just months later. Wow. But I enjoy all your videos. Shame this model isn't sticking around.
Thanks for tuning in! It is a shame Kia killed this car off!
A'right guys... I like it A LOT.
I am so glad that you do Juan!
I was planning on leasing a new Chrysler 300 this year and then they decided to drop it from their lineup. You can find new 300’s at dealers but the picking is slim and it cost more to lease it than buy it, figure that out. When I saw this credenza I thought I might just have to drag the wife down to the KIA dealer and check this out. Not sure if it will lease well since I don’t know what the resale value is on 3 year lease. Enjoy the content, you cover all brands and different models, I like that. Keep up the good work.
Hands down get it .. you will never touch another American car again
Thanks for the compliment and for letting me share this one with you! I hope you can get the right car for you.
This is so true.
I totally agree with you with!
Raiti's Rides looking forward to see u have one RR
The Cadenza isn't a competitor of the Lexus ES350. A more appropriate comparison is the Nissan Maxima or the Toyota Avalon. On that score the Cadenza makes an appealing value proposition. If the pattern for the updated version follows that of the previous version, a top trim Cadenza can be had for about the same real world price as a loaded V6 Camry or Accord 2.0L Touring model.
Nice car! Refreshing to see a naturally aspirated V6 as those are going the way of the dinosaur 😁😂. Really interested to check out a 2021 Optima.
This guy DID NOT just say he sprinkles cinnamon on his ice cream 😂😂
Nice car. Kia is killing it. I am surprise the gauge is not full TFT like the K5. The shifter is not as nice as the K5 either. I’ll take this over the Lexus ES. They should’ve put this non turbo motor in the lower Stinger model instead of the 4 cylinders motor.
Sprinkling cinnamon on ice-cream? Does it tastes good? Never thought of doing that...Hmmm🤔
Yes, especially with some chocolate.
Raiti's Rides : 😯😯😯. I’ll give it a try. Thank you.
I was waiting for this car so bad. I have waited almost year. I saw this car on kia Korean website. I was so happy that kia is releasing 4 ltr engine. Now I am very disappointed with this version of car in autoshow when I heard about features in review. Seems they just replace front exterior body, rear exterior body, and some dashboard design with new screen. New features I was expecting was
1. TFT digital screen odometer
2. Head up display.
3. Shifter handle of automatic transmission.
4. Entertainment control for rear passenger.
5. 4 cylinder engine.
6. Front passenger adjustment control on side of the front seat.
7. Automatic trunk open/close.
8. Manual sun blind for rear windows and back windshield.
Something isn't right about the car they show cased. Possibly a pre-production for NA? Its missing a ton of features compared to the pre-refresh limited.
Thanks for letting me bring it to you!
This is a preproduction model!
They are selling a boatload of this in Korea. They cant keep up with the sales. KDM spec Cadenza has electronic gear shifter and the LED turn signals, but idk why the one in the motorshow has tht KDM’s rental car spec w the ugly boot type gear shifs and the halogen turn signals 🤔
You are so very right!
Nice car.. great reviews
Thanks for letting me bring it to you!
A seriously great review , excellent stuff! Congrats from Australia, I hope we get one here
That really means so very much!
Amazing review the best in the
business I missed out on this model from kia hopefully it can make a return as the stinger goes away
That color is gorgeous.
That's a good looking sedan. Gonna check it out when the auto show comes round my way.
I am so glad that you like this one.
Love the car only mistake kia made was the gloss black. Fingerprints will be all over the interior. Other then that the car is perfect.
Headlights and the grill look fantastic
I totally agree with you!
Personally I would still get a stinger or genesis g80, but a real nice car overall
Me too!
LOL Joe I shouldn't even be watching these Chicago Auto Show reviews anymore because I literally just saw them today LOL.
It's still fun to share these with you! It was so awesome to finally meet you in person!
@@RaitisRides No problem Joe. R U going next February to the Chicago Auto Show?.
Kia has really stepped their game up over the years. A friend of mine had a 2001 kia sportage, I dont think he really liked it years ago. Look at Kia nowadays they look so luxurious.
I totally agree with you!
My coworker have a 2015 cadenza I must say it drives like a Cadillac. It's a big fast powerful cheap luxury car.
I totally agree with you! Thanks for sharing that input Dre.
Toothpicks to pick your jujubes out lolllll 😂 hi joe
Hi Kenny! Thanks for letting me share it with you!
Lookin sharp brother!
Thanks Ruben! I appreciate your support!
Love your videos keep them up😊. Why is Kia wanting to look like BMW?
Thanks David! That is a great question!
Raschaud Farmer they hire former VW group designer that work for Audi and Bentley so they some German mix with Korean influence
Kia has already proven one of the top car manufacturers. I think the Cadenza is better than the ES350 overall when you take price into the equation.
But I think the most anticipating Kia this year should be the all new Optima...simply the best mid size sedan to date IMHO.
Great review! And I am really liking the interior but I noticed a few things missing from the 2020 cadenza which I assume is at least a mid trim if not the limited trim things that I have on my 2017 technology model that is the mid trim. First there is no power adjustable steering wheel. No paddle shifters. No front fog lights. Fake exhaust vents in the back. No front LED turn signals. and although nobody’s mentioned the rearview mirror from what I could see in your video and from what I’ve read there’s no more compass and I don’t even see any home link buttons either! So the larger infotainment screen is definitely an improvement and Changing the climate control so now you could see the temperatures on the dash without having to move one of the climate control knobs so the display would show what temperature The climate control is set at. Unfortunately I think there’s more negatives than positives with this refresh eSpecially with the 2021 Optima coming out which looks great and probably will have the same features less money.
Thanks for the compliment and letting me share this one with you!
how can one compare without a road test...looks good sitting still.
In korean version of Cadenza, it has the same gear shift as K900. But for international one, KIA just inserted the former Stinger's basic gear knob. That's the only thing I don't like.
Thanks for sharing that info about this one.
At first looks like a bmw.
You are so right!
Kia has the Cadenza above the Stinger on their website. In terms of the MSRP's, I'm not entirely sure if the Cadenza breaks $50K (it wouldn't surprise me if if it did, based on this car and what it offers) whilst the Stinger does... But nobody really sells the Stinger for MSRP anyway. Usually like $8-10K less. Rio < Forte < Optima < Stinger < Cadenza < K900. Regardless, this sedan is supposed to be more premium than the Stinger... And I'd also be somewhat disappointed if this one is the top trim level, because there were some nice touches I saw in the reveal on the Korean side of things that aren't here. So I assume there's a better trim than this
Thanks for sharing that great info.
What dealership have $8k-$10k below MSRP for a Stinger?
@@stevornrichards1380 pretty much all of em. I got my GT2 for $41,000. And once I joined a group of owners I found that I didn't even get the best deal. But yeah, nobody's getting GT2's for $50,000 or even close, unless they're stuck in Canada or some other inferior location
@@devongee1776 huh, well thank you.
Really like the looks of this, esp the front. Give 'er Hyundai updated tech options & may have been a win. Lifetime Chgo-an (lol), but was unable to go the past couple of yrs. Really miss it, so thanks for showing & sharing. :) Stay safe & be well.
Happy Saturday Joe!😎
L S thanks Larry! You too!
Very nice car. Great video!!!
I am so glad that you like this one.
I’m sure I know the answer to this car question Joe. But will the gt350r be the happiest you’ve ever been inside of a car? I sure hope I can do that with my father some day. I hope you like the car questions, this one is special. Congratulations on the newest member of the garage.
Yes it will be my friend! I appreciate the questions.
YAY! Keep the Cadenza in the lineup, but, I wish they gave the engine a bit more juice(something over 300 like the Avalon - who they are competing against??).
Good question.
KIA will be efficient, which seems to be what consumers are going for, efficiency and spaciousness. Toyota sold just 27,000 Avalon sedans for all of 2019, unfortunately, because it's a great car.
I do love the lower lumbar too definitely Joe. 🙏👍
Nice Car KIA is stepping up being a naturally aspirated 8 speed Auto but does it have the reliability of a Avalon I guess only time can answer that but Toyota makes strong reliable vehicles and the Avalon is their Camry stepped up Keep the great vids coming Love the recent Dodge Challenger and Charger Hellcat wide body and Scat Pack love that crazy orange hellcat One fast machine Tickets optional
What a looker. Too bad not many people buy these.
Hi Joe watched a few of your vids. Always like the twinkle snack talk mixed in good and funny lol. But today I subbed because of your shout out to the wife. Good job Lorie
Looks like they took a lot of notes from the Hyundai Azera models.
That’s a nice looking car! Very elegant. Similar to the Azera that’s no longer available in the U.S. Looking forward to seeing the full review later. Nice job Joe and Lori! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks Larry! I really like the grill on it!
I tint windows on cars. Crawl through them all. The Cadenza really impressed me! Roomy classy and elegant . Big v6. 290 hp. What else do you need?
I totally agree with you Jim.
As the owner of a 2017 technology trim, AWD! Man putting the power down is hard! Wheel spin and hop galore. Trying to accelerate with the wheels turned its traction control city.
I think of the cadenza as a working person's stinger.
You are so right!
Great looking car inside and out!!! Not a huge fan of the broken up light bar on the back, but we’ll see what it will look like at night. I can’t wait to see it with a lighter interior with a warmer wood trim accent.
Thanks for sharig those great thoughts!
Happy Easter 2020! Christ is risen!
@@RealKevGotEm so what? I like Easter and I like to eat eggs. So for me it's Easter. Lol.
@@RealKevGotEm thank you, babe.
@@RealKevGotEm Oh, I'm sorry. Don't be mad, sweetheart.
Sonata 2020 is killer
I am so glad that you like the new Sonata.
I hate the fake exhaust to Joe and they should be real!! they put them there because it represents power, BUT USE REAL EXHAUST !!
You are so very right!
I really enjoy the show. You should bring some twinkies on your next review. God bless you, Joe R.
That is a good idea Michael! Thanks for being on this journey with me.
Lovely car, best review. Raiti rocks. 👌
Thanks for saying that! It really means so much to have your support!
Raiti's Rides You’re welcome, Sir. 👍
It so beautiful love it
You are so very right!
Thanks Joe & Lori, nice looking car.