PoE 3.24 | How to get absurd damage from Explosive Trap of Shrapnel

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
  • EDIT: Build guide for 3.24 -
    • PoE 3.24 | Comprehensi...
    There is a lot of bad info floating around for Explosive Trap of Shrapnel, and as part of the league start guide I'm working on I wanted to go over mechanically why it is vastly superior to the normal gem in bossing content. It ended up being a bit too long as a segment in the build guide, and it would help out people who are making build guides right now with bad information, so I'm giving it to you early.
    Comprehensive League start guide coming after patch notes for 3.24
    PoB for the minmaxed build at the end of the video: pobb.in/9bCDunvwC0ye
    See you on the beach!
    0:00 Intro
    0:31 The Truth
    1:15 Uber Boss Demonstration
    2:04 Mechanical Overview
    3:05 Shrapnel Overview
    3:24 Reason 1: Mobile Bosses
    3:40 Reason 2: Ailment Effect
    4:28 Reason 3: Hitboxes and Overlaps
    5:17 Reason 4: Overlaps again
    6:25 Reason 5: AoE and Random Throws
    7:28 Conclusion
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Комментарии • 223

  • @fearlessdumb0
    @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +28

    I'll post this here and pin it since I'm being asked everywhere all at once
    Old Gem (level 20): 37.34% avg overlaps
    New Gem (level 20): 28.44% avg overlaps and a 11.7% buff to flat phys and +20% added effectiveness
    Net is a roughly 23% nerf to overlaps offset by about a 12% flat damage increase
    Result:
    - A modest nerf to clear that probably won't affect much given you could offscreen before.
    - Buff to ailment effect since it scales directly with the physical damage only.
    - The effective dps uptime will be slightly reduced for multiple targets but not by much
    - Probably no or little change to the damage output in the contracted secondary radius scenario (invitations, maven, etc) but that will need to be tested. The flat phys increase is effectively doubled during situations where you've halved the secondary explosion spawning radius so it might also turn out to be slightly more damage than the old gem in that scenario. I'll need to do some testing before saying concretely.
    - Buff to damage with large targets (only a ~7% reduction in overlaps, still the same flat damage buff), though there aren't a huge number of these cases.
    - The worst case scenario where there is a small stationary target with no ability to affect the secondary radius is roughly a 10-11% dps loss, depending on your added dmg
    Other nerf: Loss of the mana cost reduction on normal jewels and for very high budget (Mageblood+) the loss of the mana cost flask craft. I'll have to think on this a bit.

    • @user-db3lq6es1q
      @user-db3lq6es1q 3 месяца назад

      why ?
      adds 67 to 99 physical damage to spells
      5% more damage (we do not have added for example in league start version , so just remove 5%)
      46% reduced area of effect
      to sum up , we do not lose dps( overlap -> needs to be verified! ) , we still have 100% overlap on single target with conc, just got 12% + (5%?) more damage
      5% more from - 140% Effective of added (120% prev)
      12% more from - flat added
      !!overlap -> needs to be verified!!

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      You won't get to 100% overlaps with conc effect for normal bossing situations, where are you calculating that?@@user-db3lq6es1q

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      That's not how the AoE calculations work@@user-db3lq6es1q

    • @user-db3lq6es1q
      @user-db3lq6es1q 3 месяца назад

      even if we have 10% loss, it literally compensating more% we got, so i think in the worst scenario we didnt lose dps

    • @user-db3lq6es1q
      @user-db3lq6es1q 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 do no think so, we loose in aoe -> true, we loose in total overlap -> true, but we still have enough of aoe to overlap at the end, my opinion. lets wait for pob updated, i will come here when pob makes update.

  • @Palsteron
    @Palsteron 3 месяца назад +138

    Definitely agree after actually playing with both gems! The main problem was that pob is currently bugged for the skill, counting as "all explosions overlap" and I had to do napkin math, which with 30% red/increased aoe randomly was kinda hard to do. Me saying that also put faith into GGG because I couldn't see the reason to make an Explosive Trap gem that both does more dmg and has more aoe lmao. In total though, a good outcome since I passionately hate gemswapping ^^

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +30

      Yea that PoB problem is a bummer for sure, I feel like I've responded to a dozens of people for that issue specifically. I'm 100% with you on the gem swap hate :D

    • @thezenofnick
      @thezenofnick 3 месяца назад +2

      "Me saying that also put faith into GGG because I couldn't see the reason to make an Explosive Trap gem that both does more dmg and has more aoe lmao" thats extremely true lol.

    • @yannlindegaard8522
      @yannlindegaard8522 3 месяца назад +1

      @@thezenofnickGGG definitely missed on that one lol, but it is to our advantage

  • @bred9526
    @bred9526 3 месяца назад +15

    The quality of this content is through the roof. I just tested you previous build, and did not expect such a great follow up. Subscribed!

  • @joshuapassorelli5246
    @joshuapassorelli5246 3 месяца назад +16

    Dude, you are so criminally underrated. Your content is next to none when it comes to in-depth build mechanics! Also, I would LOVE a video detailing your league start currency making strategies and thoughts with the new atlas changes!

  • @a_spoonxdd
    @a_spoonxdd 3 месяца назад +10

    Such a great video. cant wait to see a levelling pob from you after patch notes.

  • @itsyaboypepega9517
    @itsyaboypepega9517 3 месяца назад +5

    Excited for your league starter guide for 3.24 :). Giga content bro thanks

  • @Turtle.69
    @Turtle.69 3 месяца назад +9

    Extremely informational video. Great presentation. Fantastic voice. Subscribed. Looking forward to more content.

  • @samwizexx
    @samwizexx 3 месяца назад +5

    Thank you for the info. I was already planning on starting exp trap, this further solidifies it. ❤

  • @willscoolmusiclist
    @willscoolmusiclist 3 месяца назад +5

    the pacing and flow of the video is perfection. so humbly and respectfully took previous opinions and showed them so clearly to be otherwise and then explained it so well for new to veteran players man awesome video. epitome of PoE community af wp

  • @samm.9501
    @samm.9501 3 месяца назад

    This was incredibly high-quality content. If this is what you produce, I'm here for more!

  • @maxnibler6090
    @maxnibler6090 3 месяца назад +1

    I was planning to start explosive trap either way but now I guess I'll be planning to start the transfigured version. Thanks for the detailed breakdown. Super helpful

  • @casualbrie9248
    @casualbrie9248 3 месяца назад

    Oh man I loved league starting this in 3.22, and now you're tempting me to do it again.

  • @ScanMan1978
    @ScanMan1978 3 месяца назад

    Great video… Hopefully you’ll do a build guide / leveling PoB after patch notes. Subscribed 👍🏼

  • @adam6383
    @adam6383 3 месяца назад +2

    I love you my man. You are my hero. Thank you so much for sharing this info.

  • @fearlessdumb0
    @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +9

    Other variations of EToS I played in Affliction:
    1. League starter
    2. Magic Find Shrapnel (until I got tired of clicking…)
    3. T17 Valdo Farmer; solo’d from 99 to 100
    4. Uber boss speed runner (PoB in description)

    • @lolzygray
      @lolzygray 3 месяца назад

      Could you show the t17 valdo version? I'm very interested in the build, but been looking for ways to fit in a bit of extra tankiness

    • @NielsUiterwijk
      @NielsUiterwijk 3 месяца назад +1

      Can't wait to see the league starter guide

  • @AsmodeusClips
    @AsmodeusClips 3 месяца назад +1

    Very well made video and explanation 👍

  • @lovire2299
    @lovire2299 3 месяца назад

    Fantastic video, commenting to boost the exposure.

  • @MrMeltJr
    @MrMeltJr 3 месяца назад

    This is a great video. I was thinking I would likely league start with ET, great to know I can have good clear without sacrificing boss damage.

  • @Davidbruun
    @Davidbruun 3 месяца назад +10

    Great to hear that you’re working on a league starter. Would be cool with some suggestions, not limited to, of alternate items or ascendancies to reduce dmg output and increase tankiness. That way you could cater to a broader audience (Hardcore?) ❤

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +4

      I played the build for SSFHC Gauntlet in 3.23, I'll add some notes on it in the 3.24 build guide thanks for the suggestion. I think I died at 38 on the Trickster ladder having never played HC before at level 87

  • @fernandozimmer4562
    @fernandozimmer4562 3 месяца назад

    holy damn what a good video! it feels like i just got a masterclass about Traps and AoE interaction for free. Thank you alot for this

  • @allzzin6122
    @allzzin6122 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video as always Dumbo. Hear the words of the master trapper people!

  • @JohnWhitneyTheFourth
    @JohnWhitneyTheFourth 3 месяца назад

    This the video you were recording for yesterday bro? Damn you work fast, respect.

  • @imjwmka
    @imjwmka 3 месяца назад

    Its really good explanation for people who understand game a bit, well done

  • @arthanis7831
    @arthanis7831 3 месяца назад

    Glad to see your new video, hope my helmet helped in shrapnel testing )

  • @littledoseTM
    @littledoseTM 3 месяца назад

    man waited for this video, thought on starting explo trap cuz i loved the selfchill version in 3.22
    hope streamer inflation will not mess up the marked early on :P

  • @adam6383
    @adam6383 3 месяца назад +5

    Thanks!

  • @MrBahciao
    @MrBahciao 3 месяца назад

    finally your take on shrapnel, lets goooo

  • @smurfsmurff725
    @smurfsmurff725 3 месяца назад +3

    Explosive trap of shrapnel buffed, however the build got huge nerf (reduce mana cost of skills its big problem, how we will fix that?)

  • @myriadmistress
    @myriadmistress 3 месяца назад +2

    Great info thank you

  • @Xebtria
    @Xebtria 3 месяца назад +1

    if the build in general survives the patchnotes, will there be a league start guide and a early/lowish investment guide (I reckon somewhere around 20d invest) for it? and what would be dps numbers that can be expected on that level of invest?

  • @itsjay6287
    @itsjay6287 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi, are u gonna make a build guide for 2.24 ? with leveling tree, leveling gems etc?

  • @rodrigolilge3533
    @rodrigolilge3533 3 месяца назад

    Hi, big fan. Love you vids. Can i ask how did u make the Corruption Glance hubirs Circlet? How many locks?

  • @wiramonol5266
    @wiramonol5266 3 месяца назад +2

    Please include an SSF friendly POB when creating your 3.24 guide update. Please Please Please.

  • @sergei5879
    @sergei5879 3 месяца назад

    Might give up on other thoughts with that nasty lcm ban and give it a go in ssf env. Your explanations and detailed guide quite appealing.

  • @MattiKettu
    @MattiKettu 3 месяца назад +1

    Would love your take on leaguestarter, specifically ice trap of hollowness on sabo vs trickster vs others?

  • @Macdaddy8124U
    @Macdaddy8124U 3 месяца назад

    Great test

  • @carlgregory2531
    @carlgregory2531 3 месяца назад

    Have you played with combining with pyroclast mine of sabotage, probably on saboteur? Seems like would help single target on low end gearing.

  • @jdkramhoft
    @jdkramhoft 3 месяца назад

    I'd happily watch you do a patch notes reaction video

  • @Evil_Arthas
    @Evil_Arthas 3 месяца назад +4

    I was played a PF poison version of the build on the league start and Shrapnell is just always better for me (Higher initial hit - Better prolif, Poison not getting benefits from conc supp so its almost useless - when EToS just slaps those Invitation bosses as is).
    I glad you explain the mechanics for us, and now i know more - be more productive)

    • @Time2paw
      @Time2paw 3 месяца назад +1

      Do you use consuming darkness or gloves to poison? I try this build to, but it's play well only when I complete atlas. Not that great for boss farm and ok at maping.

    • @rokhpaperscissors1349
      @rokhpaperscissors1349 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Time2paw You don't actually need either. It's possible to get perfectly solid poison DPS with Explosive Trap by simply ignoring the 50% fire conversion, leaving the other 50% of the skill's damage unconverted, and using things like Ming's Heart and Obliteration - the % Physical Damage As Extra Chaos Damage is based on the skill's full base damage, with middling rolls on both uniques and a catalyst on Ming's you get 85% phys as extra chaos. With it all tallied up you're getting 185% of the skill's base phys, and only 50% of that is converted to fire, so 135% can poison.

    • @Evil_Arthas
      @Evil_Arthas 3 месяца назад

      @@Time2paw Sry for late reply.
      Im using version with two Cold iron points, Dendrobate, two Ming's heart's, shaper/hunter gloves with advn trap supp and chaos dot Awakener slam + crafted life, Replica sorrow+Life flask to fix all mana&life recovery issues and Bloodnotch+IF tech (Which now is nerfed).
      Overall build felt solid as spec out of Pcoc in red maps - before that i woudn't dare to try it. Build is also kinda nerfed because of Ele res suffix on flasks nerf, and now i need to manualy use Focus instead of Lmb. For build to start running you need at least two Consuming dark's/Dendrobate, one Mings+Doedre ring for +1 curse and Ele flask (Around 60-80c gear)
      In gear of 20D at the end of first of the league i killed all ubers, i had great defences against small hits and i was running Shaper guardians for like 8-9d/h. Can;t give you PoB and i dont think its necessary after patch notes

  • @Nacho477
    @Nacho477 3 месяца назад

    I have a question about the league start guide video you posted a few months ago. In the one section where you mentioned how to craft and early game rapier. This may have been brought up before, but I actually did some math on this and it turns out its not as deterministic as you mentioned, Its actually a 42.28% chance to hit +1 level of socketed gems, meaning its only a 57.72% success rate. What would you recommend doing if you didnt succeed? Would you start again from step two and spend another 3 div or keep the weapon as is and put auras in the weapon for the +1?

  • @VoiDukkha
    @VoiDukkha 3 месяца назад

    nice. i think the 4th point is the most convincing one for me. i wonder if there is a more optimal way to place traps, e.g. somewhere between the boss and the nearest wall

  • @Freexers
    @Freexers 3 месяца назад

    Nice vid and details. Thanks!
    On league start, what would the investment be to do Guardian farming comfortably?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      6L, level 20 gems, two vendor sceptres

    • @Freexers
      @Freexers 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 yeah wow okay. Thanks :D

  • @lucaswm2
    @lucaswm2 3 месяца назад

    Any plans on making a version of this build for Saboteur?

  • @22purple9
    @22purple9 3 месяца назад

    Hi!
    Is there any way to contact you directly? I have a leaguestart pob that is built based on your 2d Consuming Dark Explo trap build. I would like you to review it and maybe publish it as a leaguestarter. The build utilizes a few dirt cheap uniques and has a few interesting synergies between Flamethrower Trap and either Explo or Fire trap of Blasting.
    Thank you for all the vids you're making. Thanks to your guides I was able to sell voidstone carries on TFT day 1 playing on a 4l.

  • @gthStan
    @gthStan 3 месяца назад

    how does this work with left click changes? does that effect trap builds? i love my hexblasts but a bit worried?

  • @TriDungGaming
    @TriDungGaming 3 месяца назад

    how many mirror for this build , bro and this build can work without Mageblood ?

  • @Tempest_Mind
    @Tempest_Mind 3 месяца назад +3

    Looks like Sunblast is gonna be hella expensive with the hype building around this build. If you can address an alternate belt to help scale the damage before Mageblood self-chill setup that would be cool.

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      I'll have some notes on it for sure. Lots of new trappers this league it seems!

  • @Abossow77
    @Abossow77 3 месяца назад

    Do you think the EToS changes will affect this build?

  • @hkgaming2842
    @hkgaming2842 3 месяца назад

    Hey man im going to start ssf and thought about a variation of this build cause i will most likely not have access to mageblood and with the mana cost Nerf will sure need to grab eb. Shrapnel will mostlikely still be very good for mapping but would the normal version of it or maybe even slapping fire trap of blasting on for bosses a better choice?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      After patch notes the normal gem will be a bit more bossing damage in some cases, quite a bit worse for clear. Fire Trap of Blasting to be effective requires a slightly different setup, you probably don't want to scale Cold damage, for example.

  • @IamStreilok
    @IamStreilok 3 месяца назад

    how many dives do I have to spend to make it playable? because when I look at the pob, I think that a mirror will not be enough xd

  • @blakemasterzero
    @blakemasterzero 3 месяца назад

    Yo Dumbo, love the build and content. Saw your pinned post about the aoe changes, but do you have any input yet about losing the reduced mana mod on jewels and what a work around might be?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Not sure yet, I'm definitely super sad about the benched flask mana cost craft too.

    • @blakemasterzero
      @blakemasterzero 3 месяца назад

      Sounds good. Yeah, i'm a bit frustrated with what feels like back to back hits to mana management.

  • @LuckyArtist21
    @LuckyArtist21 3 месяца назад

    I did an hc gsf run with your build late in the league and made it to yellow maps before ripping when I accidentally juiced affliction on the map. Was a lot of fun except I got annoyed trying to figure out mana after the hatred swap with ring crafts. Knowledge for next league in sc trade!

  • @sqzjpeg
    @sqzjpeg 3 месяца назад

    now that the 3.24 patch note is out, how much we loose / gain from the changes ?

  • @sinteleon
    @sinteleon 3 месяца назад

    Does something like ice wall also reduce the available space?

  • @vc5555
    @vc5555 3 месяца назад

    U definitely made my decision of what to league start with easier holy

  • @danielmitchell671
    @danielmitchell671 3 месяца назад

    really interested in the league starter for this

  • @ttrruunnkkss1
    @ttrruunnkkss1 3 месяца назад +1

    What would be best for league starter for this build? Is it good to start with explosive trap or any fire skill gem for leveling and switch for explosive trap after campaign?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Check my league start guide for 3.23, I’ll post an update to it but leveling is the same. Fire trap / arma brand until level 75-80 then explosive trap once you start gathering crit chance

  • @BrutalAbduction
    @BrutalAbduction 2 месяца назад

    Where to go from here? :') I'm at 50mil per 3 traps, and would like to progress to mageblood. What would be a suggestion? Would I need to put my explo trap in sudo 8link helm, or should I change one of my gems into Swift Assembly, considering that at that point I'm losing Sunblast?
    Thank you for the build, this one is the craziest one that I've played.

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  2 месяца назад

      Yea! So if you want to go Mageblood there are a few options. What I’ve been playing is self-chill (to help with trap throw speed and MS) using mana. What I’ve been buying pieces for today is to transition over to a Slavedriver’s Hand setup where I won’t have to care about mana and instead will stack a bunch of life regen and cast speed. It’s better dps and with Lightning Warp is comically fast because LW wants cast speed. Once I finish getting it put together tonight you can peek at my profile and I’ll do a video update probably tomorrow sometime late

  • @meir231
    @meir231 3 месяца назад

    can you make a crafting guide for your helmet?

  • @hamma7730
    @hamma7730 3 месяца назад

    how viable is the build in ssf? it looks amazing to play and i want to get into bossing in my mates ssf pvt league

  • @MrBahciao
    @MrBahciao 3 месяца назад

    and what about the reduced mana cost on flask deleted on flask? how to manage that

  • @MandruDuce
    @MandruDuce 3 месяца назад +1

    Finally some good info on the difference between the gems. GG video. Can we get a recording of an actual A1-A10 run? You can put it as unlisted video so the algorithm doesnt fuck u over and just link to it in your future videos (guides etc...). Visualizing the progression based on a leveling pob is not the same as actually seeing the stuff in action.

    • @lazyViewer115
      @lazyViewer115 3 месяца назад

      I, too would love to see that.

    • @xXVintersorgXx
      @xXVintersorgXx 3 месяца назад +3

      I started this in SSF last league. The acts were so easy. I literally just used explosive trap from level 1. Got to normal lab and ran that until I got my gem.. then I ran lab until I was 20 quality. And then I finished act 4-maps with a 4 link explosive of shrapnel

  • @imiuiu
    @imiuiu 3 месяца назад

    Do you have a PoB for the build you used to test DPS at the start of the video? Just curious about ~min. gear to clear Ubers. :)

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      Sorry, no. I didn't save any of the PoBs but the damage was in the 60-75m pinnacle range to phase them without them moving IIRC. I was shedding gear, supports, and auras to get down to that number so I'm not sure those PoBs would be helpful.

  • @Steklogod
    @Steklogod 3 месяца назад

    Great job! Great video for everyone who didn't believe in EToS.
    Respect from creator of "immortal" version of the build of this skill)

  • @johnturtle6649
    @johnturtle6649 3 месяца назад +1

    Can it do sanctums?

  • @ghastimus3503
    @ghastimus3503 3 месяца назад

    You mention the benefits of ailments, what about using shrapnel for poison?

  • @G00R00
    @G00R00 3 месяца назад

    Best video i can feel it

  • @Lux8050
    @Lux8050 3 месяца назад

    Is Explosive Trap of Shrapnel a targeted skill? (meaning it will go off if an enemy is near it, like hexblast?) or no?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      It’s a trap, it will go off went an enemy enters the triggering radius (unless you are using a Sunblast, in which case they will expire then go off). It has no auto-targeting.

  • @obZen327
    @obZen327 3 месяца назад +1

    Is something like this better to level as saboteur in ssf as a starter? Or go trickster all the way??

    • @jedrusnowak3317
      @jedrusnowak3317 3 месяца назад

      Trickster is ok when u have items already or slavedrivers hand. Go saboteour league start. It doesnt Cost much to reroll after that

  • @LifenLifestyle2023
    @LifenLifestyle2023 3 месяца назад

    I can vouch for this build since I played it myself for 3.23. Even made a full Uber deathless kill video on my channel for those curious. Damage is off the charts, both clear and single target.

  • @GrimmJohn6
    @GrimmJohn6 3 месяца назад

    Will you have a updated POB before the league hits?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Yes, well before. Working on the updated Explosive Trap guide now

  • @ivanbonacic1519
    @ivanbonacic1519 3 месяца назад

    Hey! After checking some of your related videos I have a question: So, EToS has 50% convert (phys to fire) and you decided to do 50% additional on gloves (phys to cold) which makes it 100% elemental conversion. Am I right? As I can't see Cold mastery for further phys to cold conversion. And how come you decided to convert it to cold, rather that 100% phys to fire? It's better to deal 2 types of ele dmg?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Cold damage provides access to Brittle and Hatred. Brittle is, even after the nerf to 6% base crit, probably the strongest ailment in the game. Hatred is by a decent margin the strongest damage aura in the game.
      Pure fire is fine, there's nothing wrong with that approach, it just requires a different investment to crit cap and usually the Circle of Guilt/Anguish rings which prevents you from going self-chill in a late game high investment setup. Self-chill with a non-cooldown based trap is *chef's kiss*, straight up 30% more damage and allows you to drop much of your investment in Trap Throwing Speed / Swift Assembly and grab an additional damage support. It's also 30% more cast speed AND movement speed which synergizes incredibly well with Lightning Warp, which I use to speed farm Uber bosses / Uber feared.

    • @ivanbonacic1519
      @ivanbonacic1519 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 Thanks for the clarification! :))

    • @ivanbonacic1519
      @ivanbonacic1519 3 месяца назад

      @fearlessdumb0 One more question: how do you generate frenzy charges on this build? Since Sunblast is preventing minions to trigger traps and all the frenzy gain on tree + charged support is usually from minions trigger?

  • @superpecen
    @superpecen 3 месяца назад

    Any chance of doing starter version pob? Would love to league start this

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Yea the scaling is identical to the normal gem, you can use my league starter guide which I’m working on updating currently.

  • @luquiorra7490
    @luquiorra7490 3 месяца назад +1

    thank you!
    you said that explosive trap is not S-tier boss killer, but shrapnel explo is a best trap gem.
    what is your s-tier list for bosses?

    • @Steklogod
      @Steklogod 3 месяца назад

      Best universal trap gem. S-tier is ice trap ofc that can skip maven phases and oneshoot eater/exarch.

  • @lukimaster2
    @lukimaster2 3 месяца назад

    Hi, after patchnotes its buffed or nerfed?

  • @xXVintersorgXx
    @xXVintersorgXx 3 месяца назад +1

    I league started shrapnel and i used it to clear the atlas. I never ended up finding any source of secrets of suffering (in ssf). I actually got a +2 proj fractured bow for ts and all the pieces for the mf chieftain so I mostly did those 2 builds this league. If there aren't massive sweeping changes I might consider doing explosive trap again because it handled t16s even without getting secrets and all that. But when you do your league start guide I'm probably gonna be asking about secrets and alternatives (i even found a sunblast lol)
    My main question would be... Would it make more sense to go assassin in ssf without secrets? Or do the ice trap glass cannon thing? Or maybe focus on getting heist story done to use leadership price as twins is way easier to find than the sceptre

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Leaderships Price is probably the best available option for SSF at the moment, which is a bummer because amulets are an enormous source of damage. I'm sorry the heist changes made it so difficult for Alternating Sceptres last league, I was thinking about you in particular when working on the league start guide for 3.24. I think Assassin is workable it's just going to be squishier and for some people that's a dealbreaker so it will be personal preference. Galesight is another option but that's a T2 unique and also difficult in SSF.

    • @xXVintersorgXx
      @xXVintersorgXx 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 good to know. It's not your fault ggg messed up heist lol. Like I said though, even without brittle, the build is playable as a starter. It didn't take much to get started. I got like 2 of the other sceptres that give EE and like 4 of the sceptres that give EO.. I also found a psychotic axe and all the other experimental weapons. RNG was just not there for me this league. I'm thinking about starting a Chief or deadeye this time around and focus heist and legion. If I can get the base I'll roll up a trickster. The build was pretty fun

  • @Gaabcoin
    @Gaabcoin 3 месяца назад

    Mah Men, you think the notable "Chain Reaction" from Sabo is a "Damage multiplier" by detonating all traps at once? or is just a ilusion that i have? thanks for the content

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      No it’s not a damage multiplier, in scenarios where you have Skitterbots proc’ing on a set of preloaded traps on a boss it will trigger traps in a decently sized radius (but only once every 3s). The effect of chain reaction is bigger and has no cooldown that I’m aware of, but not by a lot. You are still bound by your ability to lay a certain number of traps on the ground. Chain Reaction will allow you to _maybe_ get a couple extra traps down but only in the scenario where (a) you’ve just preloaded max traps and (b) they were scattered about enough that Skitterbots didn’t get them.
      What Chain Reaction really does that’s good, imho, is provide some relief from Sunblast’s duration gate but I wouldn’t personally build around it since if you are Trickster you have access to like 4 or 5 better FF combos. If you are a Sabo then it’s something I would definitely take for QoL with Sunblast

    • @Gaabcoin
      @Gaabcoin 3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the answer man!

  • @dayman0harry
    @dayman0harry 2 месяца назад

    Hey, I made a comment but it seems like its not showing up, prob because I linked a pobbin, is there any chance you still got it to moderate it or can I try contact another way?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  2 месяца назад +1

      Just drop the last bits after pobb .in here, I can take a look later

    • @dayman0harry
      @dayman0harry 2 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 ok awesome! pobgE9AVs0Wf
      I am in a group found league with 2 others so pretty much SSF in terms of access to things. I have an issue with delivering consistent damage. Sometimes things just blow up and other times its slowly chipping away. I am still working on the +1 gem, +2 chest and am farming the lethal pride this evening. I am wondering if its due to the medium trap cluster in some way as it has trap throwing speed on it and I am not sure if I should have it or not with the belt.
      Any insights would be awesome, I really appreciate your time. If there is a viable alternative to the guardian blessing it would be great, little dude dies so fast lol - also in the pob i have it linked incorrectly, i was messing around with stuff and put ele weakness on the link that the summon should have been

  • @shadowking1237
    @shadowking1237 3 месяца назад

    "Explosive Trap of Shrapnel now has 140% Effectiveness of Added Damage (previously 120%), and now deals 5 to 8 Physical Damage at gem level 1 (previously 5 to 7), scaling up to 635 to 952 at gem level 20 (previously 568 to 851). The base secondary radius is now 2.4 metres at gem level 1 (previously 3), and 3 metres at gem level 20 (previously 3.6). The base smaller explosion radius is now 0.7 metres at gem level 1 (previously 1.3), and 1.3 at gem level 20 (previously 1.9)."
    do these aoe changes combined with the damage buff end up changing this at all?

  • @dailybs555
    @dailybs555 3 месяца назад

    Got a leaguestarter for that bad boy or are we waiting untill patch notes drop ?

  • @casualbrie9248
    @casualbrie9248 3 месяца назад +1

    Welp, with the aoe changes I think a lot of this video doesn't apply anymore right? I haven't done the napkin math though

  • @Bochen92
    @Bochen92 3 месяца назад

    When can we have league start for 3.24? In this weeknd? Any chance?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      Depends on patch notes. It will take me some time to get everything put together after we see where the chips fall this afternoon.

    • @Bochen92
      @Bochen92 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 awesome, I'm hoping to play some boss killer, but I try this build couple leagues ago and struggle hard, and change from frostbeariers sceptres back then, maybe when I preper myself little harder it will be good xD also transition is on maps and early is Arma brand I guess, I don't like it too

  • @xTobsecretx
    @xTobsecretx 3 месяца назад

    At what level of investment do you actually reach 6% brittle on bosses? I’m asking bc last time I played with Leadership’s Price on a much higher hit damage skill (reap), I was hitting barely around 4%.

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      What was your investment in ailment effect? Usually that is crucial. IIRC even at a very modest investment I was getting 3-4% brittle on pinnacle bosses (something in the 25m dmg ballpark, that's been 15div in prior leagues, who knows for this league). Ubers require a bit more but not a crazy amount more.

    • @xTobsecretx
      @xTobsecretx 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 I don't remember. How much do you usually have? I also only really care about the ailments on bosses so that number matters more to me than the 6% we get on mobs that insta die. I'm mostly asking bc I'm playing in SSF so when to make the switch to Secrets of Suffering is an important question for me.

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      You have easy SSF access to 100% effect on the tree (20% from elemental focus, 50% from crit mastery, 30% from Flash Freeze) and crit medium clusters are easy to craft in SSF with Eye of the Storm targetable. Typically I'll allocate however much I need to crit cap myself which changes as I progress @@xTobsecretx

    • @xTobsecretx
      @xTobsecretx 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 thanks for the advice!

  • @swagmaster1437
    @swagmaster1437 3 месяца назад +2

    So basically normal explosive trap is obsolete? Also as an ET enjoyer myself i fell for the content creator doomposting of the transfigured gem before affliction started and didn't look into shrapnel😅

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      If you don't take advantage of the more ailment effect it is a modest decrease in damage for normal sized stationary targets in an open arena, but even with that I'd play it over the normal gem in 100% of cases. At low budget you get higher dps uptime because the fight will be longer and cover more ground; at mid budget you still get the overlap damage upsides and can generate more damage in many bossing situations; and at high budget it doesn't matter because everything is deleted immediately even with 6hp in party. Gem swaps are the worst.

  • @danielhovan6607
    @danielhovan6607 3 месяца назад

    what class and ascendancy

  • @m.h.4907
    @m.h.4907 3 месяца назад

    Since I play SSF softcore. What do you think about assassin for ET of shrapnel? I basically just need to fix my defense with Phys/Ele conversion. But the increased crit should get good damage numbers

    • @HadesCannotBeBothered
      @HadesCannotBeBothered 3 месяца назад

      You lose too much from not going sabo

    • @m.h.4907
      @m.h.4907 3 месяца назад

      @@HadesCannotBeBothered Sabo would be my last choice tbh out of all 3

    • @HadesCannotBeBothered
      @HadesCannotBeBothered 3 месяца назад

      i meant trickster kekw its too early in the morning@@m.h.4907

    • @VitchAndVorty
      @VitchAndVorty 3 месяца назад

      Then, don't play regular trap build. Just play DoT Trickster with traps, emphasize on the DoT. @@m.h.4907

    • @xXVintersorgXx
      @xXVintersorgXx 3 месяца назад +1

      I did this build in ssf this league. Gonna say getting secrets sceptre never happened for me. And I specced into deli and heist for the first month or so of league. I didn't find the jewel or the sceptre and I played all the way into the last 3 weeks of league. Trickster felt great and I used it to clear my atlas into red maps easily and I did both stones. Damage was lacking but it was really tanky with high evasion and ghost dance and es etc. I would also like to know what he thinks of the glass cannon assassin approach. But you can pretty easily take trickster into end game.

  • @avivgati
    @avivgati 2 месяца назад

    Can't find how you cast Zealotry... Costs 290 mana

  • @Saintvallen
    @Saintvallen 3 месяца назад

    how does one, get insight in this "creator community"? Is there a discord for it or a forum?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Just people posting to RUclips. I don’t really hang out on twitch and I mostly stay in my guild on discord.

  • @CascadeurMikeC
    @CascadeurMikeC 3 месяца назад

    Not sure if i missed it but should you invest in AoE with explosive trap of shrapnel?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      You can, it makes taking advantage of constricting the secondary radius easier and opens the amount of the boss arena that grants additional damage.

  • @thomasthaller6998
    @thomasthaller6998 3 месяца назад

    Does this build work without Ralakesh and MageBlood?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      I league start this build. It works on zero budget.

  • @parleybae4321
    @parleybae4321 3 месяца назад

    Nerfed AOE seems to hurt the build is that correct?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      Yea, it's a modest nerf for normal bossing situations (~10%), probably about the same damage for things like Maven/Invitation with the base physical damage buff where you can contract the available space for secondary explosions to occur. I left a pinned comment.

  • @antonlindstrom1085
    @antonlindstrom1085 3 месяца назад

    Did it survive or got nerfed?

  • @ellisbloom663
    @ellisbloom663 3 месяца назад

    How are we generating Frenzy Charges?

  • @grymvild
    @grymvild 3 месяца назад +3

    I was going to make this my league starter, but then looking around everywhere I was kinda let down by the fact that everyone was hating on Shrapnel. I absolutely hate gem swaps and give up on builds super fast if I have to swap stuff around. And then it was all whine about Shrapnel being so bad on single target everywhere that I kinda just decided not to do it after all and have been looking for new builds to play. But you've reinvigorated my desire to go traps. I love the trapper playstyle, fell in love with it back in the days of Arc traps, and I've missed it ever since. Back in Ultimatum I did make a giga dodge tank Raider with Slavedrivers and Explosive Trap, but I used an Arc trap for clear, and then over time Arc just kinda became trash and so I've never played traps since
    But yep, this video put me up for Explosive Trap and that's going to be my league start, unless something extremely drastic happens with patch notes. Thank you for all your content, been following for a long while now.

    • @ethanlarge3572
      @ethanlarge3572 3 месяца назад

      Update: they buffed EToS

    • @grymvild
      @grymvild 3 месяца назад

      "But yep, this video put me up for Explosive Trap and that's going to be my league start, unless something extremely drastic happens with patch notes."
      Well, good bye my attempts of trying to play a non-minion build for a change. 1% leech of minion damage given to Necro? Why yes, I do quite enjoy being immortal.. I'll have to give Explosive Trap a go some other day.

  • @millennialz907
    @millennialz907 3 месяца назад

    Can i get the name of your character so i can see your poeninja? Last league i followed your poe ninja profile so i was able to scale the character for speed and other things to farm bosses, since thats what you were doing, before getting into self chill later down the line. Now im unsure how to go about getting into making my character faster to farm bosses.

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад

      FearlessDumb0 is my account

    • @millennialz907
      @millennialz907 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 oh lol shouldve tried that first ty ty

  • @SpiritMEOW
    @SpiritMEOW 3 месяца назад

    Rejoice, sir, for in my mind you have attained the status of sergeantminor. I don’t suppose you dabble in Standard, per chance? I’ve been trying to test 0 duration traps using sunblast and the legacy duration jewels, but I’m not experienced enough to tell if they have a minimum duration

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      I don't really play Standard, only use it to test things and do pre-league bossing practice on bad (opening weekend) gear. I've not personally tested the legacy duration jewels and the new Sunblast (since IIRC they went legacy when Sunblast was reworked in 3.19?) so I don't have a canned answer for you unfortunately.

  • @josoucy8255
    @josoucy8255 3 месяца назад

    It is a league start or no?

  • @Eqnotalent
    @Eqnotalent 3 месяца назад

    But is this also a better mapping gem?

  • @wilk85
    @wilk85 3 месяца назад

    Is that build fine for mapping?

    • @fearlessdumb0
      @fearlessdumb0  3 месяца назад +1

      It's probably the best mapper out of all the traps, though a case could be made for Lightning Trap.

    • @wilk85
      @wilk85 3 месяца назад

      @@fearlessdumb0 i will try that build then, one more question its not delve viable right?

  • @user-vs3wo2cq3i
    @user-vs3wo2cq3i 3 месяца назад

    I kinda expect shrapnel to get hit if its better than the base gem in (nearly to) all scenarios, lets see