This can actually make learning the keyboard much SIMPLER for a beginner. Every chord shape or interval pattern is always the same shape or pattern! That's huge! Meanwhile, there are six fingering shapes to learn just to play a 3 note major chord in all 12 keys on a standard keyboard. The isomorphic layout of the Lumatone keyboard will lead to being able to make music much more quickly, especially if you already have some musical knowledge and theory but are not a keyboardist. I only have to learn ONE major chord shape, ONE minor chord shape, one diminished chord shape, one augmented chord shape, one seventh chord shape....and it's the same all over on a Lumatone keyboard. That just shortcut MONTHS of learning on a conventional keyboard!
I hope this keyboard makes it to mainstream and becomes more affordable and directly available in Europe. Thank you Jordan. Big suprise it was. I am a huge DT fan since Ytse Jam.
Someone somewhere thinks of a completely new layout, never before done. They start to write down some possible design ideas. Gets a phone call. It's Jordan Rudess having already mastered the instrument.
The Lumatone is made exactly for a musician like Jordan Rudess! This is the first demo I have seen that quickly and straight forwardly explains how to use and what this instrument is capable of. Make this man your rep and you will sell many.👍
He says "here are the halftones" so it seems like he hasn´t understood yet that there are many mictrotonal tunings possible where 12edo is just one option among many ;-)
... he actually plays on a few microtonal layouts here, but I don't think his software was set to handle them. One can see Mike's Mohajira 24 layout and the default 31 layout there, but with 24 he has all the interval sizes doubled, e.g. axes of 3 and 4 semitones instead of quarter-tones. With the 31-tone layout, his "fourths" are actually steps of 5 fifth-tones blown up in size to 5 semitones... Damn. How did this get missed?! He doesn't realise they're microtonal layouts (and is probably pretty confused by the colours) because they are just spitting out variants of 12-equal...
Seemingle he hasn´t gone so far yet to see that there are many microtonal tunings for the lumatone. He is saying where the full tones and where the half tones go, but afaik 12edo is just one possible way how to program ist.
That's the place to start for sure, if you are used to playing 12edo synths. Then you might try out 24edo, 17edo, 19edo or 22edo. Or 15edo or 28edo if you are feeling particularly brave.
@@henrikljungstrand2036 13ed3 (Bohlen-Pierce) sounds interesting as well. It divides not the interval to the second but the third harmonic, the fifth following the octave, into 13 tones, sounding a bit like a whole tone scale, but weird. Sometimes very precise, but the octave for example is beating.
@@swapticsounds Yes that BP scale is based on perfect Twelfth equivalence (i don't like the word "tritave", it's ludicrous and ill-constructed), and suited especially for timbers with very dampened even harmonic partials, and strong odd harmonic partials. I actually like the Just Intonation version of BP better, but if we should use equal temperament then 39edt is a nice extension to the 11-limit and 13-limit. 52edt is pretty good also i think, even 26edt is a theoretical improvement on the already good 13edt, according to Riemann zeta analysis of the xenharmonic alliance people. If you go all the way to 65edt, that is virtually the same as 41edo, so 41edo is actually a good tuning for tempered Bohlen-Pierce, if we use 40\41 as a pseudo octave instead of the real octave.
@@swapticsounds Also, at least with respect to mathematical theory, the chord 3:5:7:9 of BP is actually corresponding to the power chord 2:3:4 of say Pythagorean tuning. And the major and modified subminor chords 4:5:6 and 6:7:8 of Pythagorean correspond roughly to the chords 9:11:13:15, 15:17:19:21 and 21:23:25:27 of Bohlen-Pierce. The subminor 6:7:9 very roughly corresponds to 15:17:21:25, and the sus 6:8:9 roughly corresponds to 105:135:147:175 (containing both 21:27:35 and 15:21:25 as well as 35:45:49).
@@henrikljungstrand2036 In German, the "tritave" is called "Duodezime", (as I found out recently) but yeah, your term is self explanatory. I am a beginner and never played the lumatone or any other microtonal instrument except my voice or a fretless bass. I´d need to listen to all of this and then get used to the differences.
So it is really easy to play some scales on except for those more traditional heptatonic and pentatonic scales? Isn't it more tricky to play normal traditional melodies on then? Well, I guess one could adjust to it. What about the tuning between each tone??? Somehow I find it too good to be true. But hey, It works on an accordion, so....
I wonder what pro keyboardists/pianists would have said after adopting this instrument for a considerable amount of time and be fully invested in it technically - then compare it to traditional keyboard layout.
There were a reason i never learned to play the accordion. I like keys instead of thumpy buttons 🤣 but nice instrument if you can figure out how to place your fingers on it 😊
I invite you to check our other videos out if this one isn't clear enough, but one of our primary focuses was to make sure this DID have keys and not just "buttons." Every one of these 280 keys has full key travel like any other synth or controller. Including the best damn aftertouch pad at the bottom of each key that you've ever felt!
Interesting demo but it didn’t really lean toward him playing a song or music, as much as he was just sweeping up and down. Would like to see more with him hands on but more song-like approach.
A quick heads up: the whole point of Lumatone is that it is EASIER to play, but doesn’t dumb music down like all of the “cheat code” controllers you see floating around.
Once you hear the cameraman breathing, you can’t unhear it.
Why did u have to say thatttt
Oh, shit.
Get some Flonase cameraguy!
Everyone: The Lumatone makes playing in microtonal tunings possible
Jordan: Now I can play only fourths
You can literally play H flat
This can actually make learning the keyboard much SIMPLER for a beginner. Every chord shape or interval pattern is always the same shape or pattern! That's huge! Meanwhile, there are six fingering shapes to learn just to play a 3 note major chord in all 12 keys on a standard keyboard. The isomorphic layout of the Lumatone keyboard will lead to being able to make music much more quickly, especially if you already have some musical knowledge and theory but are not a keyboardist. I only have to learn ONE major chord shape, ONE minor chord shape, one diminished chord shape, one augmented chord shape, one seventh chord shape....and it's the same all over on a Lumatone keyboard. That just shortcut MONTHS of learning on a conventional keyboard!
It’s ideal for beginners with 3700 dollars to spend on a new hobby 😅
I hope this keyboard makes it to mainstream and becomes more affordable and directly available in Europe. Thank you Jordan. Big suprise it was. I am a huge DT fan since Ytse Jam.
Someone somewhere thinks of a completely new layout, never before done. They start to write down some possible design ideas.
Gets a phone call.
It's Jordan Rudess having already mastered the instrument.
The Lumatone is made exactly for a musician like Jordan Rudess! This is the first demo I have seen that quickly and straight forwardly explains how to use and what this instrument is capable of. Make this man your rep and you will sell many.👍
Jordan is thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close to microtones! I hope he gives at least one microtonal layout a spin
He says "here are the halftones" so it seems like he hasn´t understood yet that there are many mictrotonal tunings possible where 12edo is just one option among many ;-)
... he actually plays on a few microtonal layouts here, but I don't think his software was set to handle them. One can see Mike's Mohajira 24 layout and the default 31 layout there, but with 24 he has all the interval sizes doubled, e.g. axes of 3 and 4 semitones instead of quarter-tones. With the 31-tone layout, his "fourths" are actually steps of 5 fifth-tones blown up in size to 5 semitones... Damn.
How did this get missed?! He doesn't realise they're microtonal layouts (and is probably pretty confused by the colours) because they are just spitting out variants of 12-equal...
@@camtaylormusic oh, somebody needs to tell him then. But actually I doubt he is not aware what kind of product he has bought there.
Seemingle he hasn´t gone so far yet to see that there are many microtonal tunings for the lumatone. He is saying where the full tones and where the half tones go, but afaik 12edo is just one possible way how to program ist.
That's the place to start for sure, if you are used to playing 12edo synths. Then you might try out 24edo, 17edo, 19edo or 22edo. Or 15edo or 28edo if you are feeling particularly brave.
@@henrikljungstrand2036 13ed3 (Bohlen-Pierce) sounds interesting as well. It divides not the interval to the second but the third harmonic, the fifth following the octave, into 13 tones, sounding a bit like a whole tone scale, but weird. Sometimes very precise, but the octave for example is beating.
@@swapticsounds Yes that BP scale is based on perfect Twelfth equivalence (i don't like the word "tritave", it's ludicrous and ill-constructed), and suited especially for timbers with very dampened even harmonic partials, and strong odd harmonic partials.
I actually like the Just Intonation version of BP better, but if we should use equal temperament then 39edt is a nice extension to the 11-limit and 13-limit.
52edt is pretty good also i think, even 26edt is a theoretical improvement on the already good 13edt, according to Riemann zeta analysis of the xenharmonic alliance people.
If you go all the way to 65edt, that is virtually the same as 41edo, so 41edo is actually a good tuning for tempered Bohlen-Pierce, if we use 40\41 as a pseudo octave instead of the real octave.
@@swapticsounds Also, at least with respect to mathematical theory, the chord 3:5:7:9 of BP is actually corresponding to the power chord 2:3:4 of say Pythagorean tuning.
And the major and modified subminor chords 4:5:6 and 6:7:8 of Pythagorean correspond roughly to the chords 9:11:13:15, 15:17:19:21 and 21:23:25:27 of Bohlen-Pierce.
The subminor 6:7:9 very roughly corresponds to 15:17:21:25, and the sus 6:8:9 roughly corresponds to 105:135:147:175 (containing both 21:27:35 and 15:21:25 as well as 35:45:49).
@@henrikljungstrand2036 In German, the "tritave" is called "Duodezime", (as I found out recently) but yeah, your term is self explanatory.
I am a beginner and never played the lumatone or any other microtonal instrument except my voice or a fretless bass. I´d need to listen to all of this and then get used to the differences.
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Can you customize the Colors? More Friendly to preserving Night Vision, such as Dim Amber and Red…
Being able to change keyboard layout must be similar to being able to change guitar tunings. Just as inspiring.
Your beats are always on point! 🎵💖love
hfs i thought he DID look familiar. massive W 4 u guys !!
Its a C System chromatic accordion right? Thats amazing. I need that lol
Obviously does a lot more than that
Yeah, it can emulate almost any layout people have ever came up with, they're just tilted somewhat.
Ah yes the keyboard wizard and a great choice at that
Lumatones are so cool! Perfect for prog
So it is really easy to play some scales on except for those more traditional heptatonic and pentatonic scales? Isn't it more tricky to play normal traditional melodies on then? Well, I guess one could adjust to it. What about the tuning between each tone??? Somehow I find it too good to be true. But hey, It works on an accordion, so....
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I wonder what pro keyboardists/pianists would have said after adopting this instrument for a considerable amount of time and be fully invested in it technically - then compare it to traditional keyboard layout.
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There were a reason i never learned to play the accordion. I like keys instead of thumpy buttons 🤣 but nice instrument if you can figure out how to place your fingers on it 😊
I invite you to check our other videos out if this one isn't clear enough, but one of our primary focuses was to make sure this DID have keys and not just "buttons." Every one of these 280 keys has full key travel like any other synth or controller. Including the best damn aftertouch pad at the bottom of each key that you've ever felt!
Not only is Jordan a word class musician, he presents products with a knowledge and enthusiasm of a CEO! LEGEND!
Interesting demo but it didn’t really lean toward him playing a song or music, as much as he was just sweeping up and down. Would like to see more with him hands on but more song-like approach.
Definitely only an introductory exploration of some of the benefits of isomorphic layouts here. I'm sure there's much more to follow :)
If Jordan wasn't such a virtuoso on a normal keyboard, I'd view this as "cheating" lol
$4000 (without shipping and import tax)
Wanna see Jacob Collier experiment with this for sure
Don't lie it is hard for you to play
A quick heads up: the whole point of Lumatone is that it is EASIER to play, but doesn’t dumb music down like all of the “cheat code” controllers you see floating around.
Who's lying? The simplicity and logic of the keyboard is pretty obvious.
this is a super sponsored video.
Uh, we didn’t pay anyone a cent for this. 🙄Jordan made this cause he’s stoked on it.