I'd like to point out some things- -Many of these repairs are simple DIYs and the previous owner obviously didn't know that. -One can purchase metal impeller water pumps now, much more durable than the plastic impeller. Also, the second time it was the seal, which probably wasn't done well the first time. -Why the turbo plumbing was replaced, I've no idea, was probably damaged in some way, not failed due to wear and tear. -Oil changes on this vehicle can be done for under $100. Catch the oil on sale for 5-6 bucks a quart and the oil filter is $15ish at carquest. -He bought some extremely expensive tires. Some of your lesser-known brands like Achilles, Ohtsu, and Kenda actually make pretty good tires and they are half of what the Continentals cost. -Ignition coils don't really need replacement til they give problems. -Brakes are 10x easier to change on a Porsche than a Chevrolet or Ford for instance. And this credited to Porsche's endurance racing heritage where pads needed to be changed mid-race. You just pop out the pins, lift out the pads, and press back the piston using the old pad or a wedge as a lever. No need to unbolt anything. Brake sensors can be jumped out also- they're really only useful if you NEVER inspect your brakes. And with 20+" wheels, just stick your head in and look once in a while when you wash the car. -Brake fluid replacements are sort of oversold in the service departments. They are a fun way to charge someone an hour of shop labor. -The left horn is a 10-minute job and the horn is less than $50 on eBay. -The frequency of the pad replacements leaves me to believe the PO couldn't stand for brakes to make any noise whatsoever. $327 for an oil change? Great god almighty.....
I own a 2009 Cayenne S. Had to get the v8 at a minimum. Anyhow, I've had this car for 6 years and here's my only expenses; New tires $1200, Vacuum pump failed at 65k $2000 as it shot oil through the system. The thermostat (I had them do the water pump too while they are in there both so $1500 and the cardan/drive shaft needed replacing at 90k miles for about $700 installed. So $5400 plus oil changes that I do myself in 6 years or just under a grand a year. Buy Durametric software and chip for less than $100 and reset your oil light yourself and do the oil changes using Mobil 1 OW40 for less than $60 each time once a year since I only put 5-7k miles a year on the car. So far it hasn't been a bad car, about 3 issues in 6 years....water pump never failed, but figured since he was already there and it had over 90k miles for the bad thermostat....might as well do it.
The cardan shaft on my Cayenne went out at 45k miles...unbelievable as it's a design flaw (it's a thin piece of rubber that wears either with time or with miles: when the rubber fails it sounds like a midget banging under your console w a hammer)
If you've been under the body of a Cayenne, you certainly know that while they share the same platform there are quite a number of differences. I can't imagine someone could drive both back to back and then still say the Cayenne is just a fancier version of the two. It doesn't mean I don't still think the Cayenne has some serious design flaws (especially for such an expensive vehicle), just that it's not quite fair to say it's a fancy VW.
Car Fanatic Same to but I have drove 110,000 miles in a year because my job is 150 miles away but I do drive to Florida every year and I live in California.
Haha, well I just sold my Cayenne Turbo. Bought a 2016 WRX Limited. Cayenne was fun, but 30 mile commute daily was getting to be a big deal with the rough gas mileage. I can't imagine doing 150 miles each way. Enjoying the high 20s/mid 30s mpg with aggressive handling and suspension of the WRX.
Great video and timely for me. I'm trying to decide whether to trade in my 2014 Lexus GX460 for a Cayenne. I've spent nothing on the Lexus other than putting new oil in it. This is a ridiculous amount of repairs. I'm very disappointed because I wanted an SUV that could handle cornering more like a sportscar but I'm not going to be buying a Cayenne.
That high repair bill is what happens when buying vehicles like this and not being able to work on cars. Your saving tons of money by fixing it yourself and that large bill from the previous owner would be cut by 75% if he did the work himself excluding warranty work in which I would do the same and have the dealer fix it.
You do save a fair amount of money doing the work yourself (which I did for all but the final repair when I sold it)...but the parts/materials for this car are definitely more expensive than on your typical vehicle. That said, I don't regret owning it...had a great time, enjoyed the ride and only sold it when the repair costs started exceeding what I felt was reasonable. If you're paying thousands in repairs every year on a used vehicle, there comes a point at which your loan payment on the used car + the repair bills broken down on a monthly basis exceed what you could buy a brand new one for (or at least a CPO w warranty).
This is all a pity, but, I had mine with NO issues for over 125k miles. Oil changes were $125 with filters AT the Dealership... So, not sure what is up with this particular car, bad day on the assembly line... don't let this scare you. Bet SUV ever and amazingly fun to drive.
That is a very nice Cayenne. My Korean buddy bought a 2014 Porsche Macan S. Even though it was an amazing car, it was a very expensive car to maintain and keep. He came to me with a scared face when smoke came out of his engine bay. I ended up fixing it for free for him because the dealer was gonna charge him a lot of money. The dealer charged him $495 for an oil change & I told him to learn to do it himself but he didn't want to do it, so traded his 2014 Macan with Toyota SUV after 2 years 😂😂😂
Thank you for honest review. I have a 2009 Lexus RX 350 at 200,000 miles and I've done basic maintenance oil change and brake and rotor change once. I'd like to think that maintenance you've had with the Porsche was unusual but I've spoken to friends who had an Audi he said set aside about two to three thousand a year. I'm blown away at the oil change cost on that Porsche. But fortunately for me I take it to a local Midas(who happens to be a pilot on the side. Lol) where they have taken care of of all my vehicles. They must be doing something right my Toyota Sienna which I took there for 8 years went 330k miles. When it came time to sell he had eight pages of basic maintenance on my Toyota Sienna. Having those maintenance records as this person does will help you sell the vehicle within hours on Craigslist as was the case with my Toyota Sienna. Is sold in 3 hours for 5K because of those maintenance records and the car was in excellent condition. To end on a good note you have a beautiful vehicle and I applaud you we're maintaining such meticulous records. Keep those records and please keep us updated!
..only $2K aside each year, that's nothing for a $100K+ ride. this is great news. the engine, trans, suspension holding up so well. as a Lexus owner, this the level of refinement & quality I want, mixed with German driving dynamics.
Sounds expensive, but $2k a year isn't too bad relative to the depreciation you'd be hit with if you purchased new. Having to take it to the shop somewhat regularly (beyond regular maintenance intervals) would start to bug me, though.
Say what you want but my last two cars were a 1997 4Runner that cost me less than $2800 over a 233,000 miles when I traded it in on a 2005 4Runner with 28k on it. That one is up for its second belt service at 170k and I’ve spent between 2 brake jobs and a belt job about $1800. I do my own oil changes for about $50 bucks. By the way, The ‘05 may not be a Porsche, but after renting BMW’s and Audi’s on a few occasions, I always enjoy being back in my old Runner. It drives really good for a Toyota UTE.
I think you are doing the right thing when it comes to maintaining this car. From my experience as the age and mileage gets up the rate of failures can actually decrease on a high end car. Also repairs can get far cheaper as people figure out how to recondition parts and the aftermarket steps in with the parts of parts that break that aren't available from the dealer.
+Andrew Thompson agreed! I'll post more updates as I get more mileage on her. If I can drive the Cayenne another 6 years, I would have gotten my money's worth. She is a fun SUV to drive and very comfortable.
Yup, the idea is that stuff that are going to break already broke and was fixed. The good thing about cars with a strong fanbase and aftermarket support is that you can find parts for it many years down the line. And like you said, the parts tend to get cheaper as more aftermarket companies step in.
LOL, OMFG its true. I was going to buy a pre-onwed one too, but i called the local dealer for a brake job quote for four rotors and pads, and that sticker shock alone made my decision right there. After seeing this, im glad i didnt get one
Never have a dealer do work on your older car. For one thing the labor charge is generally 50% or more over independants, and genuine factory parts can be several times the price of good aftermarket ones. A porsche brake rotor, plan on over $200, aftermarket half that. Same with water pump and most other parts. Oddly factory oil filters can be priced close to aftermarket. Remember also you will pay upward of $15 for a quart of factory oil through the service department. Factory everything is seriously overpriced, but that's how those huge dealers survive.
The first 5 years is not necessarily a true indicator, as most repairs occur afterwards. I purchased a 2004 Cayenne S in 2007. Typical major repairs in $1,500 to $2,500 range. After 11 years, I probably can count only 2 years where I had major repairs done, so about a handful, altogether. The remaining are typical maintenance issues, like fuel sensors, oil changes, etc. I would say I spend roughly $2,500/year over 9 years and $6,000/year over 2 years (major repairs), so roughly $3,000/year average. I avoid dealerships or high-end repair shops to perform basic maintenance.
I have a 2013 Base Model, one owner and all service records. I got it from the dealer. It had all the recall work done (brakes) and new tires. I have a good local mechanic who takes care of the car for half the price.
As a owner of my cayenne and auto mechanic, I paid only $80 to maintain my car last year, which is oil change. This year 2 air filter that cost me 6.72 each wholesale price, plus another oil change at the end of this year. Which is not too bad.
+Ice Breaka yup, annual maintenance that s diy is cheap. It's the consumables and occasional bigger issues that occur that will start burning a whole in your wallet.
We have not done much do our Cayenne S for the past 6 years other than brakes, tires, battery, starter. My 2 Audis are super reliable: a6 4.2 and S4. S4 goes in for fluid changes each year and nothing else besides filters and one spark plug change.
CF, you mentioned the previous owner bought it certified pre-owned. That probably explains what has happened to this car. The first owner, probably a lease, beat the crap out of the new engine and transmission which cannot be determined by any inspection. If you are buying expensive cars, stay away from pre-owned to make sure you take proper care of your money's worth from Day 1. I also stay away from Gen 1 for any car. Many bugs are fixed within the 1st year which are never disclosed by the manufacturer.
+t044psa that doesn't seem to be the case with the car. The engine and transmission are perfectly fine. These are just known issues with the car. All Cayenne Turbos have these issues. Since these issues are very predictable, they should be viewed as maintenance items.
I know you love your Cayenne but replacing thermostat (twice), water pump (twice), fuel pump, turbo plumbing, alignment (thrice) are not usual. Germans are not that bad in making automobiles. Hope your head gasket does not blow anytime soon. All the best.
I love Porsche's and have had several, but this is the issue with buying high-performance German cars vs., for example, Japanese. You're going to pay through the nose.
The turbo models are damn expensive when they need work. The non turbo models are a lot more reliable. As for the driveshaft, we have a driveshaft shop in town who has rebuilt shafts on an exchange basis. I've worked on a number of these models and overall outside of the water pump and line issues which have been addressed they've been pretty amazing, especially compared to other european SUV's. The driveline is pretty robust outside of the center bearing on the driveshaft. No cam belts on any of the engines imported to the US and no common issues with timing chain guide failures, unlike the Audi 4.2 V8.
Cool to see I'm not the only one who does this. Here are my numbers. My car was a little rough when I got it so my repairs for the last 10 month higher but my purchase price reflects that. So after owning it for 10 months and driving it for 7,500 miles my total cost is $11,656.53 plus gas and insurance. Insurance is around $100/month and gas is also like $100/month. 5/9/2016 6,500.00 103,648 Purchased 2004 Porsche Cayenne S 5/9/2016 40.00 - Purchase Car Fax 5/10/2016 195.98 2x 275-45-19 Nitto Tires Used 5/10/2016 128.82 SC Property Taxes 5/10/2016 38.85 Turn Signal Bulbs, License Plate Bolts, Spray Wax 5/11/2016 359.00 Title Transfer, Sales Tax, Registration 5/12/2016 27.40 103,850 Headlight Inspection 5/14/2016 72.24 103,901 2 Tires balanced, mount and valve stem 5/17/2016 17.75 Cabin Air Filter 5/27/2016 702.37 104,127 Front Lower Inner Rear Bushings & Alignment 6/4/2016 60.00 104,300 10 Qt Mobil1 0W40 6/8/2016 101.84 104,600 2x K&N Air Filters 6/26/2016 6.35 105,400 Oil Filter Wrench 76MM 14FL 6/26/2016 4.23 105,400 8MM Hex Bit for Oil Drain Plug 6/26/2016 - 105,450 Change Oil and Oil Filter 8/15/2016 48.99 106,819 Headlight Wiring harness 8/16/2016 342.00 106,835 Spark Plugs and Coil Packs OEM BERU 8/16/2016 35.99 106,835 Tools: E10, E12, T30, T40, Tripple Square 12mm 8/16/2016 200.00 106,835 Labor to replace spark plugs and coil packs 9/6/2016 600.00 107,400 Replace leather front 2 seat bottoms 10/7/2016 333.68 109,000 4 Rotors, pads, break sensors, and tools 10/7/2016 250.00 109,000 Labor to replace rotors and pads 12/19/2016 839.43 109,797 Oil Change, Break Bleed, Rotate and Balance Tires, Transmission Flush 12/23/2016 400.74 109,854 Replace Automatic Transmission Oil Pan 1/28/2017 6.97 110,430 Leather Conditioner 1/28/2017 204.25 110,434 1 Nitto Tire New (flat tire) 2/1/2017 53.65 110,434 Mount and Balance tire and valve stem 2/2/2017 86.00 110,455 Rear Latch Shocks (trunk only not glass)
Thanks for sharing! $12k isn't so bad. It looks like you'll be set for maintenance for a while unless something goes wrong. If the car lasts you another 5 years, you're looking at a total cost of ownership of around $3-4k/year.
2006 Toyota 4runner with 200000 miles on it. Only replaced the brakes and batteries. THAT WAS ALL! Gave the truck to my son and bought a 2016 4runner. I expect the same from it.
Seems like a lot. I can get slotted rotors an ceramic braked pads for 65.00 for e36 5 speed hardtop convertible . oil filters are $3. used maf $25. o2 sensor $30. sensen struts pair $90. diy string alignment free.
$1800 a year on maintenance is a drop in the bucket compared to the $15,000 deprecation per year. That's the price to pay for a Porsche. I've been lucky with my '14 Cayenne so far. 30k miles and only done regular oil changes so far.
+wholeNwon I don't expect the same trend to continue. The car has a bunch of known issues, all of which have been addressed. I only expect to cover maintenance over the next few years and should be covered by the aftermarket warranty if anything goes wrong. Cayenne ownership isn't without occasional headaches, but it is such a pleasure to drive.
It's interesting to read the complaining about $6-8K in maintenance and repairs over a 6 years time frame. In those same 6 years this car lost $60K + in value due to depreciation. I just bought a 2012 Cayenne Turbo with 45K on it for $50K, original list was like $117K.
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For once, can we get an expensive car that is reliable? It would be nice to know that the more expensive the vehicle is, the better we expect it to be reliable!
Expensive cars usually are more expensive due to complexity. A more powerful engine is more complex than a simple, low output one. This just means there is more that can go wrong. But since the issues have been sorted out, the car has been very reliable. I just treat the parts that fail as maintenance items.
You can get an expensive luxury car that is reliable. It's called a Lexus. Lexus make complex, powerful engines that are even more reliable than low output ones. Thus, Lexus have the strongest resale value in any country in the world (maybe not Germany).
FWIW, I sold my Lexus RX to buy a Cayenne...this after the Lexus had to have the entire steering rack replaced (luckily under warranty) at 15k miles on the car. EVERY brand can have their own issues. The thing I do love about Porsche is that the car is designed in a manner that allows me to work on it (the difference between doing the brakes on my Lexus RX and the Porsche is incredible, the Porsche takes about 1/3 the time).
Great video. These things are a steal for what they sell for used. DIY is a lot cheaper, true, but you're also paying the same now (1/21/18 $18k-$23k) for an 08 Cayenne Turbo 500hp (BASE MSRP $93,700) as you would an 08 Grand Cherokee SRT8 425hp (BASE MSRP $41,420). Which are great cars too, but In a driving comparison It doesn't come close to the Cayenne. You're getting twice the car for the money. And thats not talking about the 75 more hp. For me it'll always be Porsche. But they aren't for everyone.
+Michael Tomlinson great thoughts. I think you've compared cars that people looking for a Cayenne would actually cross shop. Yes, the Porsche is more expensive to maintain, but you do get some enjoyment in exchange. Thanks for watching!
My goodness. You're scaring me now. I just recently purchased Cayenne hybrid, and my mechanic told me if something goes out he can't fix it. Oh my gosh.
@@Estebanvibes it's a beautiful car. However I think the windshield is made out of paper 🤔. It had cracked 3 times. I replaced it right after 2nd time, and it costs me almost $1,500. Then, it cracked again a week later after I had it replaced. It sat my blood to boil. So I used windshield self repair kit that I purchased from Amazon to repair it myself. Very bad idea. It made a tiny crack into a inch long crack. To make the long story short, I really, really just wanted to enjoy to drive the car, but it's parking in my garage for couple weeks now. I am angry at it. Sigh.
Now I know the costs if I am interested in purchasing a Cayenne Turbo! This was very helpful, and we should do one for the 911 once time passes. (If you have it in the future) - Great video
+Car Fanatic, Be prepared to change your valve cover gaskets around 120,000. You'll start smelling burning oil. Another extremely common issue. Not hard to fix, but time-consuming.
Car Fanatic Porsche uses a rubber slot gasket and it gets really hard like plastic over time and mileage. Then it will fail to seal. Also, if the spark plug tubes ever get oil in them, those seals are part of the valve cover gasket set as well.
I just snagged an 04 Cayenne for $3k and KBB on it is around $6800. It's not running so I sent it to an independent mechanic with a great reputation. Hopefully its not too much to get it running, but even if I put a couple grand into it, I'm still under the KBB value. Anxious to see how this SUV performs.
Do you know what's wrong with the car? Usually, any work on a Cayenne isn't cheap. If there's an actual issue with the motor...I think you'll have to put more than $3,800 to get it fixed. Even a used motor isn't cheap. Is it a V6 or V8?
Car Fanatic so I was told there was an engine wiring harness issue when bought it, but the independent mechanic says he’s rarely run into that issue, and it’s highly unlikely. He wants to check the ignition switch and starter first, then go from there. I bought a new battery as well. They’ll start work on Monday so I’ll see what they say.
Oh boy, this particular car seems to have had a lot of issues. It's true that high performance cars typically can cost more to maintain but this list is insane.
Anthony Picard , I am fairly sure if you found a Dodge Truck the same age and the same mileage it would have a longer list. Only difference is it is unlikely the Dodge owner would have fixed any of that.
+Andrew Thompson great point. The list is quite long because the previous owner was very particular about his car. Other items were covered under warranty. I think most of the known issues have been resolved, so hopefully there won't be any major surprises or I'll have to use my aftermarket warranty.
That's a lot of time in and out of the shop. Would be interesting to calculate the cost of an owner's time to manage all the service in addition to all the hard costs (warranty and non-warranty covered visits).
Yeah, that's another thing to factor in. That's one of the reasons why I perform all of my own maintenance. I don't like dropping my car off at the shop, arranging rides to and from work, etc. I'm optimistic that the majority of the issues with the Cayenne have already happened.
Who did you purchase after market warranty from? Did you do the same for your 911 as well? I'm looking into a 911 myself, maybe a 997.1 and would like to buy an aftermarket warranty just to protect myself in case the engine grenades. Thanks!
😂🤣🤣 my 2014 ford fusion is at 60,000 miles, i spent $35 per oil change (and filter) and its fully synthetic. Spent $275 on 4 rotors and pads. $15 on brake fluid change and $600 tires on new wheels. $45 on new spark plugs. $25 on air filter and $10 on cabin air filter. My car is good for another 60,000 miles.
haha...I am thinking about whether it makes sense to dump the Cayenne for something that is cheaper to maintain and better on gas. Unfortunately, when I toy with the idea, I keep thinking how great the Cayenne is to drive. 500 hp and great handling for an SUV. If I need to merge on the highway quickly, I always know I can step on the gas and leave 99.9% of cars on the road behind. But...she's an expensive toy.
Great video ! Having the same kind of issues with my S Hybrid Cayenne... Really making me wonder if this should be my next SUV or should I go with a different type of vehicle ??? Thanks again for this video.
Good video, Seems everytime you go to Porsche Garage your car has a breakdown. My mercedes c-class year 2012 got 155k miles, i changed nothing. Maybe you can look to ML
Just bought a 2014 Cayenne S with 36k miles on it. Who did you take your extended warranty with? This is my first Porsche, so I want to make sure I cover all my P's & Q's!
+blackericdenice those are fairly simple cars. The Cayenne is a twin turbo V8 with a complex 4wd system, air suspension, braking system, etc. More can go wrong. I've driven so Equinox rental. Not a bad car, but you really can't compare an economy SUV vs a luxury, sport SUV. I agree that the Cayenne reliability isn't the best. It is expensive to maintain.
Yes I can. In the video, he didn't say anything about the twin turbo, all wheel drive, or suspension. 2 water pumps. The Equinox has a water pump and a horn.
Car Fanatic Silver grey 2008-957 basic V6- 220k km (137k miles) with an impecable body for roughly 8500 USD. Took possession of the vehicle today and went for a 100mile run ... so far it runs fine! Really enjoy it! 😉
I only have a record of a tire change at 63k miles. I swapped out the tires as soon as I got the car for all-seasons. Plenty of thread left on the Michelin Latitude Sport tires. With conservative driving, proper inflation, and rotations, tires should last 30k miles or so.
Yup, 30k sounds about right for tires. Faulty thermostat and Water pump at 25k is pretty unreasonable. HPFP at 40k is pretty crappy also. Although F/R pads and rotors for 1800 is actually not bad!
Thanks for the info, I bought a cayenne 3 yr old off lease with 45k. How did you get all the maintenance history from your cayenne? I asked 2 separate Porsche dealerships to give me a copy of the history including the place I got it from and they still have not shared it with me. Car has no problems but makes me wonder...
Great Video. Wow. What a P.O.S. I looked at Consumer report to see if this was one off, lemon, or par for the course. They give the 2019 a 2/5 rating for predicted reliability with 2013, 2016, and 2017 all 1 or 2 of 5 rating for reliability. What the should do is give you the car for free then mandate you have to get it fixed a authorized dealer, like Apple. They would make a lot more money at these repair rates and repair cost. lol. My wife wants one but NO WAY.
I grew up with my dad owning Porsches. I love them but, they are a money pit. I appreciate them but until I win the lottery I'll stick with my toyota tacoma. Thanks for the nice honest video.
Bro just watching your videos on your 2008 cayenne turbo. I am getting ready to buy same exact model and year. I wanted to know who or where did get your after market warranty from and about how much? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
+Alex Rosa I've never driven one, but would love to. My Cayenne has been a blast, but not much of a great handler with it being so heavy. I'm guessing the Macan handles like a sports sedan.
I'm actually going to make a video on aftermarket warranties soon. I have a Carchex warranty on the Cayenne and a Warrantech warranty on my 997. I haven't had to use them for any claims yet, so I can't comment. However, I picked these warranties based on the fine print, online reviews, and BBB rating. With all warranties, you'll find a ton of bad reviews because people tend to write about their negative experiences and not really their positive ones. That's why I look for a company that's been in business for a long time with a good BBB rating. It's also helpful to ask trustworthy independent mechanics for advice since they have experience dealing with various warranty providers. Beware of aftermarket warranties that offer really low prices with subpar BBB ratings. Often times, they'll take your money, then find a reason to deny your claim or cancel your policy when you have a substantial failure.
This is so interesting. We have an 08 Cayenne GTS and we had almost all of the same services/repairs performed as well except the turbo plumbing. We bought pre-owned in 2011 (25k miles) and we currently have almost $100k miles. We’re on the third thermostat. It’s weird how it doesn’t last long. We also had an emission issue and the rear window regulator needed to be replaced. For the last 3 years maintenance has been about $5k/yr not including gas. These are very nice fun cars to drive. When you buy this vehicle you cannot expect value.
Please do one on panamera 4; I'll look for your other videos now, but, that is my dream car, no worry of bucket seats, they kind of hurt my back(5'7" height), also, which year is the best bang for buck, like you did for 911(comparing generations), Thank You you very much. Also, my heart is set to AWD 3.5(I guess) V6, so, please help me choose AWD vs 2WD. I'm a contractor and move between states, and I don't know where I'll go next(it might have snow).
Lol my goal is transparency. If you're okay with the maintenance, then go for it. If you're not, run away. Overall though my car has been solid over the last 25k miles. Crossing my fingers that it lasts!
@@CarFanatic if something major goes like engine or transmission is the car a write-off? Its a beautiful car by the way my language was too harsh. It's highly desirable but you would think such an expensive car would be more reliable.
Potential. Though the engines and transmissions are pretty reliable. The prior 955 could develop transmission issues from coolant leaks, but that can be repaired. If you have a total transmission or engine failure, that would be very expensive to fix. But, you could probably find a junkyard engine or transmission.
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I'd like to point out some things-
-Many of these repairs are simple DIYs and the previous owner obviously didn't know that.
-One can purchase metal impeller water pumps now, much more durable than the plastic impeller. Also, the second time it was the seal, which probably wasn't done well the first time.
-Why the turbo plumbing was replaced, I've no idea, was probably damaged in some way, not failed due to wear and tear.
-Oil changes on this vehicle can be done for under $100. Catch the oil on sale for 5-6 bucks a quart and the oil filter is $15ish at carquest.
-He bought some extremely expensive tires. Some of your lesser-known brands like Achilles, Ohtsu, and Kenda actually make pretty good tires and they are half of what the Continentals cost.
-Ignition coils don't really need replacement til they give problems.
-Brakes are 10x easier to change on a Porsche than a Chevrolet or Ford for instance. And this credited to Porsche's endurance racing heritage where pads needed to be changed mid-race. You just pop out the pins, lift out the pads, and press back the piston using the old pad or a wedge as a lever. No need to unbolt anything. Brake sensors can be jumped out also- they're really only useful if you NEVER inspect your brakes. And with 20+" wheels, just stick your head in and look once in a while when you wash the car.
-Brake fluid replacements are sort of oversold in the service departments. They are a fun way to charge someone an hour of shop labor.
-The left horn is a 10-minute job and the horn is less than $50 on eBay.
-The frequency of the pad replacements leaves me to believe the PO couldn't stand for brakes to make any noise whatsoever.
$327 for an oil change? Great god almighty.....
Na that’s just dumb I don’t buy a car for do it myself that’s what mechanics are for these stealerships
This car needs Obamacare instead of warranty
Exactly, let the other tax payers pay for the maintenance of my European car that is made in Mehico :D
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@@mannyechaluce3814 Sh*t im rolling on the floor
I own a 2009 Cayenne S. Had to get the v8 at a minimum. Anyhow, I've had this car for 6 years and here's my only expenses; New tires $1200, Vacuum pump failed at 65k $2000 as it shot oil through the system. The thermostat (I had them do the water pump too while they are in there both so $1500 and the cardan/drive shaft needed replacing at 90k miles for about $700 installed. So $5400 plus oil changes that I do myself in 6 years or just under a grand a year. Buy Durametric software and chip for less than $100 and reset your oil light yourself and do the oil changes using Mobil 1 OW40 for less than $60 each time once a year since I only put 5-7k miles a year on the car. So far it hasn't been a bad car, about 3 issues in 6 years....water pump never failed, but figured since he was already there and it had over 90k miles for the bad thermostat....might as well do it.
Water pump and drive shaft gone before 60k mile is just unbelievable.
well its a Volkswagen....... 🙄
I have the Cayenne S and draft shaft replaced at 180k KM
The cardan shaft on my Cayenne went out at 45k miles...unbelievable as it's a design flaw (it's a thin piece of rubber that wears either with time or with miles: when the rubber fails it sounds like a midget banging under your console w a hammer)
Boots N Pants it is a fancy Volkswagen
If you've been under the body of a Cayenne, you certainly know that while they share the same platform there are quite a number of differences. I can't imagine someone could drive both back to back and then still say the Cayenne is just a fancier version of the two. It doesn't mean I don't still think the Cayenne has some serious design flaws (especially for such an expensive vehicle), just that it's not quite fair to say it's a fancy VW.
My 08 Cayenne turbo is still going strong at 125k miles, planning on driving mine into the ground.
+LS 1Life very nice! Same here!
Car Fanatic Same to but I have drove 110,000 miles in a year because my job is 150 miles away but I do drive to Florida every year and I live in California.
Haha, well I just sold my Cayenne Turbo. Bought a 2016 WRX Limited. Cayenne was fun, but 30 mile commute daily was getting to be a big deal with the rough gas mileage. I can't imagine doing 150 miles each way. Enjoying the high 20s/mid 30s mpg with aggressive handling and suspension of the WRX.
Old but what was your city mpg? I got a 20 mike round trip. Thinking of getting one.
Great video and timely for me. I'm trying to decide whether to trade in my 2014 Lexus GX460 for a Cayenne. I've spent nothing on the Lexus other than putting new oil in it. This is a ridiculous amount of repairs. I'm very disappointed because I wanted an SUV that could handle cornering more like a sportscar but I'm not going to be buying a Cayenne.
That high repair bill is what happens when buying vehicles like this and not being able to work on cars. Your saving tons of money by fixing it yourself and that large bill from the previous owner would be cut by 75% if he did the work himself excluding warranty work in which I would do the same and have the dealer fix it.
You do save a fair amount of money doing the work yourself (which I did for all but the final repair when I sold it)...but the parts/materials for this car are definitely more expensive than on your typical vehicle. That said, I don't regret owning it...had a great time, enjoyed the ride and only sold it when the repair costs started exceeding what I felt was reasonable. If you're paying thousands in repairs every year on a used vehicle, there comes a point at which your loan payment on the used car + the repair bills broken down on a monthly basis exceed what you could buy a brand new one for (or at least a CPO w warranty).
lol
youre gonna fix a Porsche, yourself. ok.
Prince Mauhdi III why not. It’s just a car.
Only women take their cars to a mechanic.
I love porches i have a cayenne gts 2009 and my son has a macan s 2015 we love them theyre very popular in america and out and everyone loves them
This is all a pity, but, I had mine with NO issues for over 125k miles. Oil changes were $125 with filters AT the Dealership... So, not sure what is up with this particular car, bad day on the assembly line... don't let this scare you. Bet SUV ever and amazingly fun to drive.
If you have a 955 and haven't had to change out the carden shaft or Ignition coils, you're extremely lucky.
Right
That is a very nice Cayenne. My Korean buddy bought a 2014 Porsche Macan S. Even though it was an amazing car, it was a very expensive car to maintain and keep. He came to me with a scared face when smoke came out of his engine bay. I ended up fixing it for free for him because the dealer was gonna charge him a lot of money. The dealer charged him $495 for an oil change & I told him to learn to do it himself but he didn't want to do it, so traded his 2014 Macan with Toyota SUV after 2 years 😂😂😂
Thank you for honest review.
I have a 2009 Lexus RX 350 at 200,000 miles and I've done basic maintenance oil change and brake and rotor change once.
I'd like to think that maintenance you've had with the Porsche was unusual but I've spoken to friends who had an Audi he said set aside about two to three thousand a year. I'm blown away at the oil change cost on that Porsche. But fortunately for me I take it to a local Midas(who happens to be a pilot on the side. Lol) where they have taken care of of all my vehicles. They must be doing something right my Toyota Sienna which I took there for 8 years went 330k miles. When it came time to sell he had eight pages of basic maintenance on my Toyota Sienna. Having those maintenance records as this person does will help you sell the vehicle within hours on Craigslist as was the case with my Toyota Sienna. Is sold in 3 hours for 5K because of those maintenance records and the car was in excellent condition.
To end on a good note you have a beautiful vehicle and I applaud you we're maintaining such meticulous records. Keep those records and please keep us updated!
..only $2K aside each year, that's nothing for a $100K+ ride. this is great news.
the engine, trans, suspension holding up so well. as a Lexus owner, this the level of refinement & quality I want, mixed with German driving dynamics.
Sounds expensive, but $2k a year isn't too bad relative to the depreciation you'd be hit with if you purchased new. Having to take it to the shop somewhat regularly (beyond regular maintenance intervals) would start to bug me, though.
So every 3,000 miles it needs repairs. No thank you
Say what you want but my last two cars were a 1997 4Runner that cost me less than $2800 over a 233,000 miles when I traded it in on a 2005 4Runner with 28k on it.
That one is up for its second belt service at 170k and I’ve spent between 2 brake jobs and a belt job about $1800. I do my own oil changes for about $50 bucks.
By the way,
The ‘05 may not be a Porsche, but after renting BMW’s and Audi’s on a few occasions, I always enjoy being back in my old Runner.
It drives really good for a Toyota UTE.
Wow, you neither took a stand for nor against it. Just gave the details unbiased. This is how videos should be made.
I think you are doing the right thing when it comes to maintaining this car. From my experience as the age and mileage gets up the rate of failures can actually decrease on a high end car. Also repairs can get far cheaper as people figure out how to recondition parts and the aftermarket steps in with the parts of parts that break that aren't available from the dealer.
+Andrew Thompson agreed! I'll post more updates as I get more mileage on her. If I can drive the Cayenne another 6 years, I would have gotten my money's worth. She is a fun SUV to drive and very comfortable.
Yup, the idea is that stuff that are going to break already broke and was fixed. The good thing about cars with a strong fanbase and aftermarket support is that you can find parts for it many years down the line. And like you said, the parts tend to get cheaper as more aftermarket companies step in.
LOL, OMFG its true. I was going to buy a pre-onwed one too, but i called the local dealer for a brake job quote for four rotors and pads, and that sticker shock alone made my decision right there. After seeing this, im glad i didnt get one
Never have a dealer do work on your older car. For one thing the labor charge is generally 50% or more over independants, and genuine factory parts can be several times the price of good aftermarket ones. A porsche brake rotor, plan on over $200, aftermarket half that. Same with water pump and most other parts. Oddly factory oil filters can be priced close to aftermarket. Remember also you will pay upward of $15 for a quart of factory oil through the service department. Factory everything is seriously overpriced, but that's how those huge dealers survive.
Sounds like well built car! LOL
Caynne turbo doesn't cost much for maintenance but I live in Dubai where the petrol is cheap and I find the petrol is costly it burns fuel very quick
Habib Alrahbi depends on how fast you drive it, but moving a 2,5 ton vehicle at 250-270 km/h just costs that much energy.
drive a camel... is more fuel efficient. Also, if you are lonley, you have sex with camel
The first 5 years is not necessarily a true indicator, as most repairs occur afterwards. I purchased a 2004 Cayenne S in 2007. Typical major repairs in $1,500 to $2,500 range. After 11 years, I probably can count only 2 years where I had major repairs done, so about a handful, altogether. The remaining are typical maintenance issues, like fuel sensors, oil changes, etc. I would say I spend roughly $2,500/year over 9 years and $6,000/year over 2 years (major repairs), so roughly $3,000/year average. I avoid dealerships or high-end repair shops to perform basic maintenance.
I have a 2013 Base Model, one owner and all service records. I got it from the dealer. It had all the recall work done (brakes) and new tires. I have a good local mechanic who takes care of the car for half the price.
Nice, enjoy!
I was having second thoughts about my mustang GT vs a cayanne turbo but I think this list set me straight, damn...
As a owner of my cayenne and auto mechanic, I paid only $80 to maintain my car last year, which is oil change. This year 2 air filter that cost me 6.72 each wholesale price, plus another oil change at the end of this year. Which is not too bad.
+Ice Breaka yup, annual maintenance that s diy is cheap. It's the consumables and occasional bigger issues that occur that will start burning a whole in your wallet.
Holy shit! I hadn't done any major repairs to my Honda Odyssey at 60k aside from normal recommended maintenance. Jeezis. Still going strong at 115k !
We have not done much do our Cayenne S for the past 6 years other than brakes, tires, battery, starter. My 2 Audis are super reliable: a6 4.2 and S4. S4 goes in for fluid changes each year and nothing else besides filters and one spark plug change.
+paul l awesome to hear!
How the fuck does the Thermostat and Water Pump fail at 25k miles? Unreal. Sad ...just very sad.
Issues, issues and more issues. That’s the impression I have on Porsche cars after watching your video, thanks lol
Legend has it that he is still talking about costs of maintenance to this day non stop
lol
CF, you mentioned the previous owner bought it certified pre-owned. That probably explains what has happened to this car. The first owner, probably a lease, beat the crap out of the new engine and transmission which cannot be determined by any inspection. If you are buying expensive cars, stay away from pre-owned to make sure you take proper care of your money's worth from Day 1. I also stay away from Gen 1 for any car. Many bugs are fixed within the 1st year which are never disclosed by the manufacturer.
+t044psa that doesn't seem to be the case with the car. The engine and transmission are perfectly fine. These are just known issues with the car. All Cayenne Turbos have these issues. Since these issues are very predictable, they should be viewed as maintenance items.
I know you love your Cayenne but replacing thermostat (twice), water pump (twice), fuel pump, turbo plumbing, alignment (thrice) are not usual. Germans are not that bad in making automobiles. Hope your head gasket does not blow anytime soon. All the best.
I love Porsche's and have had several, but this is the issue with buying high-performance German cars vs., for example, Japanese. You're going to pay through the nose.
The turbo models are damn expensive when they need work. The non turbo models are a lot more reliable. As for the driveshaft, we have a driveshaft shop in town who has rebuilt shafts on an exchange basis. I've worked on a number of these models and overall outside of the water pump and line issues which have been addressed they've been pretty amazing, especially compared to other european SUV's. The driveline is pretty robust outside of the center bearing on the driveshaft. No cam belts on any of the engines imported to the US and no common issues with timing chain guide failures, unlike the Audi 4.2 V8.
The list makes it seem like every time you get in it your going to get some work. Damn!
Cool to see I'm not the only one who does this. Here are my numbers. My car was a little rough when I got it so my repairs for the last 10 month higher but my purchase price reflects that. So after owning it for 10 months and driving it for 7,500 miles my total cost is $11,656.53 plus gas and insurance. Insurance is around $100/month and gas is also like $100/month.
5/9/2016 6,500.00 103,648 Purchased 2004 Porsche Cayenne S
5/9/2016 40.00 - Purchase Car Fax
5/10/2016 195.98 2x 275-45-19 Nitto Tires Used
5/10/2016 128.82 SC Property Taxes
5/10/2016 38.85 Turn Signal Bulbs, License Plate Bolts, Spray Wax
5/11/2016 359.00 Title Transfer, Sales Tax, Registration
5/12/2016 27.40 103,850 Headlight Inspection
5/14/2016 72.24 103,901 2 Tires balanced, mount and valve stem
5/17/2016 17.75 Cabin Air Filter
5/27/2016 702.37 104,127 Front Lower Inner Rear Bushings & Alignment
6/4/2016 60.00 104,300 10 Qt Mobil1 0W40
6/8/2016 101.84 104,600 2x K&N Air Filters
6/26/2016 6.35 105,400 Oil Filter Wrench 76MM 14FL
6/26/2016 4.23 105,400 8MM Hex Bit for Oil Drain Plug
6/26/2016 - 105,450 Change Oil and Oil Filter
8/15/2016 48.99 106,819 Headlight Wiring harness
8/16/2016 342.00 106,835 Spark Plugs and Coil Packs OEM BERU
8/16/2016 35.99 106,835 Tools: E10, E12, T30, T40, Tripple Square 12mm
8/16/2016 200.00 106,835 Labor to replace spark plugs and coil packs
9/6/2016 600.00 107,400 Replace leather front 2 seat bottoms
10/7/2016 333.68 109,000 4 Rotors, pads, break sensors, and tools
10/7/2016 250.00 109,000 Labor to replace rotors and pads
12/19/2016 839.43 109,797 Oil Change, Break Bleed, Rotate and Balance Tires, Transmission Flush
12/23/2016 400.74 109,854 Replace Automatic Transmission Oil Pan
1/28/2017 6.97 110,430 Leather Conditioner
1/28/2017 204.25 110,434 1 Nitto Tire New (flat tire)
2/1/2017 53.65 110,434 Mount and Balance tire and valve stem
2/2/2017 86.00 110,455 Rear Latch Shocks (trunk only not glass)
Thanks for sharing! $12k isn't so bad. It looks like you'll be set for maintenance for a while unless something goes wrong. If the car lasts you another 5 years, you're looking at a total cost of ownership of around $3-4k/year.
always nice to get the real picture
thanks for this and all your videos. its helping me prepare to own a Porsche
2006 Toyota 4runner with 200000 miles on it. Only replaced the brakes and batteries. THAT WAS ALL! Gave the truck to my son and bought a 2016 4runner. I expect the same from it.
Seems like a lot. I can get slotted rotors an ceramic braked pads for 65.00 for e36 5 speed hardtop convertible . oil filters are $3. used maf $25. o2 sensor $30. sensen struts pair $90. diy string alignment free.
You are clear, smart very helpful.
$1800 a year on maintenance is a drop in the bucket compared to the $15,000 deprecation per year. That's the price to pay for a Porsche. I've been lucky with my '14 Cayenne so far. 30k miles and only done regular oil changes so far.
I'm shaking my head in disbelief and you seem like such a bright young fellow.
+wholeNwon I don't expect the same trend to continue. The car has a bunch of known issues, all of which have been addressed. I only expect to cover maintenance over the next few years and should be covered by the aftermarket warranty if anything goes wrong. Cayenne ownership isn't without occasional headaches, but it is such a pleasure to drive.
It's interesting to read the complaining about $6-8K in maintenance and repairs over a 6 years time frame. In those same 6 years this car lost $60K + in value due to depreciation. I just bought a 2012 Cayenne Turbo with 45K on it for $50K, original list was like $117K.
I have a suggestion for you. Why not give some thought to sharing your experience with owning a special automobile with both the MBA Association at your university and with the Dean of the undergraduate business administration program at your university. This video is 'ready made' to be used 'as is' in an undergraduate program for a planning curriculum example. And your video about your plan to save up for the purchase of the car is also 'ready made' for a classroom example. If you're successful working with the B School and the alumni association you might encourage them to share your work with the college of engineering. The quality of your video work is just very good. Good luck. GP, Retired MBA Director from Ohio.
I was considering purchasing a used one in the near future, but holy shit that's a lot of maintenance costs.
Not bad when you compare it to my s63 Amg
Nice job, bro. I appreciate the report as I consider buying a Cayenne
For once, can we get an expensive car that is reliable? It would be nice to know that the more expensive the vehicle is, the better we expect it to be reliable!
Expensive cars usually are more expensive due to complexity. A more powerful engine is more complex than a simple, low output one. This just means there is more that can go wrong. But since the issues have been sorted out, the car has been very reliable. I just treat the parts that fail as maintenance items.
You can get an expensive luxury car that is reliable. It's called a Lexus.
Lexus make complex, powerful engines that are even more reliable than low output ones. Thus, Lexus have the strongest resale value in any country in the world (maybe not Germany).
FWIW, I sold my Lexus RX to buy a Cayenne...this after the Lexus had to have the entire steering rack replaced (luckily under warranty) at 15k miles on the car. EVERY brand can have their own issues. The thing I do love about Porsche is that the car is designed in a manner that allows me to work on it (the difference between doing the brakes on my Lexus RX and the Porsche is incredible, the Porsche takes about 1/3 the time).
6 years of owing a chevy malibu cost me about $1400. 6 years! I understand the difference in both vehicles, but damn!
+Tony Kay yeah, the damn stealership quoted me $460 for an oil change. Ridiculous!
Great video. These things are a steal for what they sell for used. DIY is a lot cheaper, true, but you're also paying the same now (1/21/18 $18k-$23k) for an 08 Cayenne Turbo 500hp (BASE MSRP $93,700) as you would an 08 Grand Cherokee SRT8 425hp (BASE MSRP $41,420). Which are great cars too, but In a driving comparison It doesn't come close to the Cayenne. You're getting twice the car for the money. And thats not talking about the 75 more hp. For me it'll always be Porsche. But they aren't for everyone.
+Michael Tomlinson great thoughts. I think you've compared cars that people looking for a Cayenne would actually cross shop. Yes, the Porsche is more expensive to maintain, but you do get some enjoyment in exchange. Thanks for watching!
My goodness. You're scaring me now. I just recently purchased Cayenne hybrid, and my mechanic told me if something goes out he can't fix it. Oh my gosh.
How's your Cayenne doing ??
@@Estebanvibes it's a beautiful car. However I think the windshield is made out of paper 🤔. It had cracked 3 times. I replaced it right after 2nd time, and it costs me almost $1,500. Then, it cracked again a week later after I had it replaced. It sat my blood to boil. So I used windshield self repair kit that I purchased from Amazon to repair it myself. Very bad idea. It made a tiny crack into a inch long crack. To make the long story short, I really, really just wanted to enjoy to drive the car, but it's parking in my garage for couple weeks now. I am angry at it. Sigh.
Now I know the costs if I am interested in purchasing a Cayenne Turbo! This was very helpful, and we should do one for the 911 once time passes. (If you have it in the future)
- Great video
+King Lonne thanks! I'll have a definitive update in the 911 by April.
It's a good looking truck. I was thinking of buying one , but not after watching this. Maybe this porsche needs an ls swap
great deals out there in CTT... I'm watching an 08 CTT with 40k miles, loaded for $25000
+Car Fanatic,
Be prepared to change your valve cover gaskets around 120,000. You'll start smelling burning oil. Another extremely common issue. Not hard to fix, but time-consuming.
+Brent Evans is that a common issue? I hadn't seen to many instances of this for the 957.
Car Fanatic Porsche uses a rubber slot gasket and it gets really hard like plastic over time and mileage. Then it will fail to seal. Also, if the spark plug tubes ever get oil in them, those seals are part of the valve cover gasket set as well.
Thanks for this! I think for this car around 2k per year on maintenance is very reasonable
I just snagged an 04 Cayenne for $3k and KBB on it is around $6800. It's not running so I sent it to an independent mechanic with a great reputation. Hopefully its not too much to get it running, but even if I put a couple grand into it, I'm still under the KBB value. Anxious to see how this SUV performs.
Do you know what's wrong with the car? Usually, any work on a Cayenne isn't cheap. If there's an actual issue with the motor...I think you'll have to put more than $3,800 to get it fixed. Even a used motor isn't cheap. Is it a V6 or V8?
Car Fanatic so I was told there was an engine wiring harness issue when bought it, but the independent mechanic says he’s rarely run into that issue, and it’s highly unlikely. He wants to check the ignition switch and starter first, then go from there. I bought a new battery as well. They’ll start work on Monday so I’ll see what they say.
+Dayton Kendrick keep me posted and good luck!
Will do, thx for the response
Dayton Kendrick what happened with the car?
I guess the day has come that american cars are by far the most dependable.My 14 year old explorer just needed it's first repair.(axle seal)
Great video, I’ve been looking at 957s (gts/turbo s). Very helpful.
Oh boy, this particular car seems to have had a lot of issues. It's true that high performance cars typically can cost more to maintain but this list is insane.
Anthony Picard , I am fairly sure if you found a Dodge Truck the same age and the same mileage it would have a longer list. Only difference is it is unlikely the Dodge owner would have fixed any of that.
+Andrew Thompson great point. The list is quite long because the previous owner was very particular about his car. Other items were covered under warranty. I think most of the known issues have been resolved, so hopefully there won't be any major surprises or I'll have to use my aftermarket warranty.
2:27, if it were done at Firestone or somewhere like that, the brake pads would've been covered under warranty.
+I know you're right, but . Maybe, but I wouldn't trust Firestone with a Porsche.
the yearly budget on this thing is more than I have spent in 106000 miles of ownership on my chevy
That's a lot of time in and out of the shop. Would be interesting to calculate the cost of an owner's time to manage all the service in addition to all the hard costs (warranty and non-warranty covered visits).
Yeah, that's another thing to factor in. That's one of the reasons why I perform all of my own maintenance. I don't like dropping my car off at the shop, arranging rides to and from work, etc. I'm optimistic that the majority of the issues with the Cayenne have already happened.
Who did you purchase after market warranty from? Did you do the same for your 911 as well? I'm looking into a 911 myself, maybe a 997.1 and would like to buy an aftermarket warranty just to protect myself in case the engine grenades. Thanks!
Do you have to purchase your vehicle from either places to get their warranties?
The old cayan are beautiful
Agreed. I love my Cayenne despite her being a gas guzzling pig.
😂🤣🤣 my 2014 ford fusion is at 60,000 miles, i spent $35 per oil change (and filter) and its fully synthetic. Spent $275 on 4 rotors and pads. $15 on brake fluid change and $600 tires on new wheels. $45 on new spark plugs. $25 on air filter and $10 on cabin air filter. My car is good for another 60,000 miles.
but it is a ford fusion
Drop in the bucket compared to depreciation.
Well done! - How did was extended warranty selected
I was seriously contemplating buying a Porsche SUV or a Jaguar F pace...
Sticking to toyota and honda now.
haha...I am thinking about whether it makes sense to dump the Cayenne for something that is cheaper to maintain and better on gas. Unfortunately, when I toy with the idea, I keep thinking how great the Cayenne is to drive. 500 hp and great handling for an SUV. If I need to merge on the highway quickly, I always know I can step on the gas and leave 99.9% of cars on the road behind. But...she's an expensive toy.
Great video ! Having the same kind of issues with my S Hybrid Cayenne... Really making me wonder if this should be my next SUV or should I go with a different type of vehicle ??? Thanks again for this video.
If I owned one of these it would be getting 3,000 mile oil changes. These engines are astronomically expensive to rebuild or replace.
After watching this video, I want to steer clear from cayenne; hope I don't hear the same stuff for panamera.
😀😀😀😀My Range Rover, has had nothing spent on it like this. 👍
Very informative. Keep going with the vids!
Good video, Seems everytime you go to Porsche Garage your car has a breakdown. My mercedes c-class year 2012 got 155k miles, i changed nothing. Maybe you can look to ML
Just bought a 2014 Cayenne S with 36k miles on it. Who did you take your extended warranty with?
This is my first Porsche, so I want to make sure I cover all my P's & Q's!
+Jacob Kodner I used carchex. Try them, autopom, fidelity, or Warrantec for an Exclusionary policy. Beware of too good to be true deals like ASAP.
I just purchased a similar 2008 CTT. Great experience so far. But who did you go to for aftermarket warranty?
Carchex. Good experience so far
Also nice video I like the use of excel
What aftermarket Warranty did you purchase? (Company name and price). What does it cover ?
My friend bought a 2014 Equinox 95,000 miles she replaced the battery. That is it.
+blackericdenice those are fairly simple cars. The Cayenne is a twin turbo V8 with a complex 4wd system, air suspension, braking system, etc. More can go wrong. I've driven so Equinox rental. Not a bad car, but you really can't compare an economy SUV vs a luxury, sport SUV. I agree that the Cayenne reliability isn't the best. It is expensive to maintain.
Yes I can. In the video, he didn't say anything about the twin turbo, all wheel drive, or suspension. 2 water pumps. The Equinox has a water pump and a horn.
Equinox will self destruct in 15-20 k miles you'll see hince the low resale value.
Thats an expensive peace of shit Yikes
piece
lol
Part's cost seems resonable given what kind of a car it is. Strange part is that water pump brakes way too often.
Anna-Liisa Lonnqvist
"breaks"
Thank you for your videos. You definitly helped in my purchase!
Great to hear. What did you get?
Car Fanatic Silver grey 2008-957 basic V6- 220k km (137k miles) with an impecable body for roughly 8500 USD. Took possession of the vehicle today and went for a 100mile run ... so far it runs fine! Really enjoy it! 😉
Ok this video just convinced me to get an f30 328i, not the s4 lol
LOVE MY '04 BMW X5! Runs like a beast.
looks bad at first but 2k per year isnt bad. first tire change was at 70k? seems odd
I only have a record of a tire change at 63k miles. I swapped out the tires as soon as I got the car for all-seasons. Plenty of thread left on the Michelin Latitude Sport tires. With conservative driving, proper inflation, and rotations, tires should last 30k miles or so.
Yup, 30k sounds about right for tires. Faulty thermostat and Water pump at 25k is pretty unreasonable. HPFP at 40k is pretty crappy also. Although F/R pads and rotors for 1800 is actually not bad!
findingnismoz $1800 for front and rear break pads and rotors are awful, i did it myself for $130ish on my vehicle
Thanks for the info, I bought a cayenne 3 yr old off lease with 45k. How did you get all the maintenance history from your cayenne? I asked 2 separate Porsche dealerships to give me a copy of the history including the place I got it from and they still have not shared it with me. Car has no problems but makes me wonder...
would you say 2k per year on maintenance is reasonable or too much?
Why was the washer fluid REPLACED???
+Tyler Pripps I think that just means they added fluid.
Who should I use for and after market warrenty ? Thinking about buying one
I used CarChex. Whatever you do, be sure to read the fine print.
Great Video.
Wow.
What a P.O.S. I looked at Consumer report to see if this was one off, lemon, or par for the course. They give the 2019 a 2/5 rating for predicted reliability with 2013, 2016, and 2017 all 1 or 2 of 5 rating for reliability.
What the should do is give you the car for free then mandate you have to get it fixed a authorized dealer, like Apple. They would make a lot more money at these repair rates and repair cost. lol.
My wife wants one but NO WAY.
I grew up with my dad owning Porsches. I love them but, they are a money pit. I appreciate them but until I win the lottery I'll stick with my toyota tacoma. Thanks for the nice honest video.
+Werner Diedericks thanks for watching and sharing your experience. Hope you are subscribed!
Bro just watching your videos on your 2008 cayenne turbo. I am getting ready to buy same exact model and year. I wanted to know who or where did get your after market warranty from and about how much? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Got it through Carchex. Just read through the fine print very carefully because that's really the only way to know what you're buying.
Wow, was considering one but would rather stay with BMW. A fraction of that. Shocking about water pump and thermostat twice. Thanks for the vid
Oloff van Vuuren he works for BMW 😂😂😂
What aftermarket extended warranty did you get?
What do you think of the Porsche Macan S? I love mine and hope you do a review
+Alex Rosa I've never driven one, but would love to. My Cayenne has been a blast, but not much of a great handler with it being so heavy. I'm guessing the Macan handles like a sports sedan.
it does test drive one is all in one fun
What after market warranty did you you purchase for the Cayenne? How has the experience been? What made you choose that warranty?
I'm actually going to make a video on aftermarket warranties soon. I have a Carchex warranty on the Cayenne and a Warrantech warranty on my 997. I haven't had to use them for any claims yet, so I can't comment. However, I picked these warranties based on the fine print, online reviews, and BBB rating. With all warranties, you'll find a ton of bad reviews because people tend to write about their negative experiences and not really their positive ones. That's why I look for a company that's been in business for a long time with a good BBB rating. It's also helpful to ask trustworthy independent mechanics for advice since they have experience dealing with various warranty providers. Beware of aftermarket warranties that offer really low prices with subpar BBB ratings. Often times, they'll take your money, then find a reason to deny your claim or cancel your policy when you have a substantial failure.
This is so interesting. We have an 08 Cayenne GTS and we had almost all of the same services/repairs performed as well except the turbo plumbing. We bought pre-owned in 2011 (25k miles) and we currently have almost $100k miles. We’re on the third thermostat. It’s weird how it doesn’t last long. We also had an emission issue and the rear window regulator needed to be replaced. For the last 3 years maintenance has been about $5k/yr not including gas. These are very nice fun cars to drive. When you buy this vehicle you cannot expect value.
Wow 5k per year is a lot!
Any transmission issues?
Please do one on panamera 4; I'll look for your other videos now, but, that is my dream car, no worry of bucket seats, they kind of hurt my back(5'7" height), also, which year is the best bang for buck, like you did for 911(comparing generations), Thank You you very much.
Also, my heart is set to AWD 3.5(I guess) V6, so, please help me choose AWD vs 2WD. I'm a contractor and move between states, and I don't know where I'll go next(it might have snow).
+I know you're right, but : I'm not familiar with the Panamera. It shares the same engines as the Cayenne. I'd Google it and see what comes up.
Not sure if it was the intention of your video, but thank you for saving me from buying one of these polished turds.
Lol my goal is transparency. If you're okay with the maintenance, then go for it. If you're not, run away. Overall though my car has been solid over the last 25k miles. Crossing my fingers that it lasts!
@@CarFanatic if something major goes like engine or transmission is the car a write-off? Its a beautiful car by the way my language was too harsh. It's highly desirable but you would think such an expensive car would be more reliable.
Potential. Though the engines and transmissions are pretty reliable. The prior 955 could develop transmission issues from coolant leaks, but that can be repaired. If you have a total transmission or engine failure, that would be very expensive to fix. But, you could probably find a junkyard engine or transmission.
Tyres are the big one, such wide tyres are always expensive.
Yup. I have tires coming due soon. It's going to run me $1500 or so
Car Fanatic Nice, great videos, your cars look immaculate.