Hey all, I heard from Pepin and they're planning on releasing an add on magnet sets that will allow you to evenly add 2.5 or 5lbs to the dumbbells for those of you who don't want to have one extra plate per side like I showed on how to do 5lbs jumps.
So it'll be slide two rails, making sure you hit right marks, then squeeze in two magnetic plates. I can imagine that might end up being an off-putting hassle, like changing weights on iron masters. We're getting closer to the holy grail, this probably isn't it though I think.
I have added these dumbbells to a phantom cart so many times. I really want to pull the trigger because as you stated, small space + value. I like a lot of what Pepin has been making and the Fast series is solid and fast. Thanks for the video
@@jaycherno1141 whoaaa shipping is $600?!? I just bought a 300 lbs treadmill and shipping was $160. These dumbells are much easier to maneuver than a treadmill! $600 for shipping is absurd.
Great review! I wish these were available when I bought my original Pepin set about 18 months ago. I don’t like changing them out as much anymore but spending $1700 to replace is hard to justify. The knurling on them is the best of any adjustable dumbbells I have tried. Pepin makes quality products for sure!
I've enjoyed my HDs as well, but agree they do get tiresome to change. I've upgraded equipment in the past by selling what I have to help offset the cost of something new.
I really like the fact that you are reviewing Canadian products! Finally some stuff for us Canucks that we dont get rob with custom fees and shipping...up to you now! Great review
First day impressions:It arrived in a waist high box. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxP26Tir6n60vUkdtn4mbwhRO8cwuJQNy2 Each dumbbell was in its own foam box within the shipping box. Everything was secure and in good shape. No weird smells. The weight changing mechanism is really smooth and straight forward. Changing weight is really fast and easy. Though the handle is plastic, I don't think it will be breaking anytime soon. So far pretty impressed after my first session with them. I was afraid they were going to be too wide at first, but I didn't have any issues with them while doing upright rows.
Great point on the drop test, it doesn’t make sense to drop them any other way. The only thing I’ve ever spent that much money on is my functional trainer and even 2 years later I still guide the weights down carefully
I'm pretty old school when it comes to lifting. I've been doing it since 1978. I was taught never to drop the weights. The weights back then were very high quality (like everything else) but dropping them was simply out of the question. Cross fit style training with all of the Olympic lifting has really opened the door to dropping weights. No matter how well something is made its not going to last as long if you feel the need to keep dropping the equipment. Even with bumper plates I still wouldn't be inclined to drop my weights. It's just too ingrained in me not to do so.
dropping dumbbells can be completely involuntary or a good thing to do to avoid an impending injury. Think flat/incline DB press/flys. There are times when dropping them from height would absolutely be the right thing to do and trying to guide them down would be stupid as you'd risk worse injury. By all means if you never push anywhere close to failure and only use light weight, then dropping is probably not going to be a consideration
@@trulsrohk1 I have dropped a db while failing on a db bench press. Arm started to "wander" and that was it. My set up was not very good. Obviously, it is not up head high, but it is higher than Brandon is doing here.
I sprained the F outta my wrist when i was younger trying not to drop the 120s after a chest press; trying to slowly lower them to the floor as best i could. I felt my wrist translate across my forearm when my wrist had the max leverage on it. It swelled up immediately, lost ROM and hurt for 3 months. Now I always make sure i save enough to bring them to my knees and swing myself back up. These dumbbells look really cool. I've had power blocks for over 10 years and like them.
Thanks for the video. I've wanted a pair of these since I first saw the design, and this video only further sold me on them. Pepin seems like a very straightforward, honest company.
@Basement Brandon That matters to me a lot. Obviously I want items that match my needs the most perfectly, but I also want to support businesses that listen to feedback and adapt accordingly.
I was wondering what number you got! I'm number 4! I also got the stand and heavy handle kit. Because I ordered it with the heavy handle they etched the numbers appropriately so it reads 30-130 on the rails. They feel like the best of all worlds adjustable dumbbells to me.
I should clarify, production was taking longer than anticipated, so he emailed me about a discount and informed me of a future stand and heavy handle add on. I asked what it might look like, and he sent a prototype photo and its really 2 additional plates that bolt to the inner plates of the handle. There is less handle room now but I've got fairly meaty paws and they fit just fine, no rubbing. Not sure if you need to email him for the add on kit??
@@garrettsolberg9100 thank you for responding! I Definitely should contact him. Been wanting adjustable dumbells over 100lbs these seem to be a good fit.
It is great to see the progress and development of Home Gym equipment. Just jealous that these didn’t exist sooner. too much effort to sell my IMs and Powerblocks.
Very random comment, but these are made in North America, specifically Beauce, one of the great entrepreneurial regions of Canada. It is amazing to see a small company make such an amazing high quality product, very innovative 💪
How is reracking after a hard, heavy set? I find aligning my Powerblocks can be difficult when I'm gassed. Great review brother! These look to be the new standard of adjustable dumbbells.
The 120s can be a bit tough depending on where the cradle is. For me too I think I should play with where the ends bolt on as they allow you to adjust width some. I imagine if it’s dialed in, it would be harder to “miss”.
@@BrandonSchwartz1 The 2 pieces of the cradle that stick up and hold in the end plates bolts on. There's about .5" of adjustability on either side. If you push them both all the way in, it may be too narrow to rerack the handle unless you're 100% dead on.
If memory serves me right 5-50 in dumbbell pairs is 550 pounds, 55-100 is 1500 or 1550, and 105-125 is 1150 pounds. Adjustable dumbbells make the most sense the heavier you go.. I prioritize durability and quick change but I sacrifice feel with my power blocks going to 125 and use DB Olympic handles for heavier than that. Not a fan of the the giant power U175 blocks just too wide for me.
For your follow up video, can you check if it’s possible to put a microgains 1.25 and 2.25 on both sides of the handle and still have room? That’d let you hit the 7.5 increments as well while staying balanced
These look great, and I certainly agree on the value proposition of them. That railing on the sides is not ideal, but they are heavy, quick changing and steel. That has been a unicorn in the adjustable dumbbell arena. Great review man!
Yeah the rails are not ideal, but it's better than Nuobell's plastic cam followers that are practically guaranteed to break sooner or later and are not serviceable.
100% agreed on the drop test. The demonstrated drop test is a good example of a natural “drop.” Just throwing the weights around has always felt…obscene to me. I don’t get why people are comfortable doing that.
When these first came out I was for sure getting these but now I’m thinking about just going with iron master. These are amazing but Id rather save the difference and buy something else for my gym
I'm excited for these. I'll save up, so hopefully ny the time I get enough cash a new revision comes out. The upside for these are going up to 120lbs each. That's a real good weight.
These are so sick. Just hard to justify dropping 2k for me when dumbbells would just be secondary work for me (I do think the pricing is fair because they replace an entire set) I think I am going to get the bolt fitness octobells that go to 80 lbs in the coming months.
I have those. Love them. Literally just like nuobells except in a octagon shape. Knurling is very passive though if you care about that. I have the bolts for accessory and then for heavy db work I have a pair of loadable dumbells but since I powerlift most of my workout is barbell with dbs being accessory work... If I could do it all over and get either these or the setup that I already have, I would probably still get the set up that I have since I saved close to a grand.
I have the same set. Valid concerns for peoples comments on the plastic but I haven’t seen any reports of major or minor failure of Nuobell style dumbbells but time will tell. I love my set. My only regret is not getting the military green versions lol
I prefer the nuobell switching style but the all metal construction on Pepin is more durable. Merry them up get the best of both worlds. That would be the optimal design.
Nice review as always. I have the first version of their screw-in (HD is the name now?). It was one of their early orders before things went banana and I still love them today. The knurling is amazing and I got their fat version afterwards. Yes it takes a bit of time to setup and you can't drop them from car chase, but it's still one of my precious gym possessions. I can't recommend them enough. Buying these new shiny ones would be a stretch with wifey though... However, I'm very happy to see that David updated the design numerous times and now just released the most advanced adjustable model. Very happy to see too that we're from the same Canadian province and that we can encourage our people here with crazy nice local made stuff ;) Go Poutine GO!
@@BasementBrandon The first version is "hand made", not CNC. They looks good in a picture, but in real life those are very beautiful... When the delivery man came and put the box in my hand, he said : That is heavy... ;) I purchase used the fat handles afterwards, and those ARE FAT. I've tried fatgrip on the normal one, but since the handle is bigger, they could not fit well. The guy that sold my the fat handles was a welder and he told me that David, that handmade all the handles before, made one of the best welds he ever seen and it will never fail "that guy makes arts"... (I'm no welder, just reporting what he told me). At first, I didn't had any uhmw donut inside, I had to purchase it afterwards so the tightness were not "there" at first. They are also a bit slower when you screw it than the new model (same version but enhanced and better made). It was still evolving a lot at the time. Also, I have to check before and after each sets that the screw are tight. It annoys my wife, but I got used to it, I don't even thinks about it now. The knurling on the normal handle is not TPB, but close. For a DB it's definitely very high end... I don't know what Coop got, but mine is quite sharp... The fat version has a milder knurling, but not bad at all, but maybe closer to what Coop described.. Not the typical DB thing however and nothing to complain about really... What I've found, is that you need to ensure that you have at least 1 inch of screw inside the handle to have a safe set, I've stretched my luck one time, but hopefully nothing bad happened and the weight came of. You just need to be aware. Other than this, the DB is great and I'm still figuring out how I could load them faster, like the IM... I might build a rig at some point. The stand that Pepin's sell dream great, but man that's big for a homegym... And when you load a 80-100 DB, you don't want to bring them on a high table... However, when you get used to it (2y), you can definitely be quick at building your DB. If you prepare your things in your resttime you can make it smooth and quick. On the ground is the best IMO, and it's really fast with experience though it was not the case when I got it... Magnetic weight attachments are a great assets, I might invest in microgains or other gadgets like this to load even faster. About the plating, even after two years of everyday use, I got a couple of scratches, but nothing that really attacked the plating itself. The nickel is still looking crazy great... Really, I bought them before it went banana and I'm glad I did and this is something I will probably keep forever. My wife told me she would like another sets for her... Eh boy... It sure that if I had the money I would get the fast one right away, but I'm extremely satisfied with what I have and getting those would be a luxury. And my wife needs to learn to enjoy what we have!!!
wouldnt it be de nice if the side pieces (where you adjust the weight) in between plate would be rounded, that would potentielly give you more options on how you grip the weight, like say a DB pull over. That could be awkward otherwise?
Great review! I've been loving my set. My only real issue is the offset adjustment isn't ideal, but it hasn't been a major problem so far. I've also been looking into either the MicroGianz or PlateMate (magnetic) adder plates for both 2.5 and 5 lb adjustments. The bonus of getting those is I can also use them on my lat pull down/low row. I definitely agree on the value of these. They are expensive, but well worth it compared to the alternatives for a similar weight range. The adjustment speed is worth the extra $600 to me versus the iron masters.
I was thinking the same thing with the 2.5lbs micro plates.. I just don't know if it would fit well with the side rail.. looks like the 1.25 micro plates just fit. But if the 2.5lbs ones fit that would fit the counter balance problem
Thanks for the review I have been looking for durable adjustable dumbells I was a bit thrown off by the price but when you explained in context makes total sense.
I think if it came down to me wanting more pieces that may be a route I'd explore too. But right now I love my fixed set and the versatility of the Iron Bear.
I bought the bow flex adjustable ones like 3 years ago. They still are as good as day 1. That being said I’ve always been careful not to be rough when putting them down. Edit: that being said, when I bought them they were not as marked up as they are now. I would not pay over $250 for them again.
I really hope they adjust the handle weight so that it's closer to 20lb than 21lb. At the measured 20.75lb that's +3.75% of the stated weight. I expect more accurate tolerances at this price.
@@JBS7551 I ended up selling my Iron Master 5-120lb dumbbells for the same reasons mentioned in the video. They don't take THAT long to change, but long enough for me to not want to mess with them, especially when training with limited time. I bought individual DBs up to 65lbs, but really want the Peppin Fast Series -- I just don't think I can justify the cost.
@gtlandis86 Yeah adjusting the iron masters gets to be a real pain, especially when needing to do big changes. I may sell mine and get a solid set of metal adjustables that go from 5-50, I don't know of a good brand for that yet
Yeah shipping needs to be considered but I think the point still remains the same. For the features they offer the price point is still relatively low in context.
@@BasementBrandon For sure, no matter how you look at it, adjustable dumbbells will be cheaper than individual dumbbells. It's just a matter of finding the ones you like the best from a form/function and durability standpoint.
Does the cradle have to be flat or can you use an angled stand? Seems like with the stand at an angle the extea weights would fall over when you take the handle out.
I get the cost thing, obviously a set for each pair from 5 pounds to 120 will be like 10k lol. But for most people started home gym. A barbell with 500 pounds and maybe a 15, 30, and 60 pound pair. I just won’t be DB presses and rowing the 100s which is why a barbell is for. A home gym my definition and comparison is a compromise
I think it just depends on the individual. A lot of people may say they can’t train at home bc they miss dbs or they can’t fit them in their home. This prob caters towards that crowd.
I agree with your position on the dropping of them. I too control the drop whether it’s my own equipment or not. People apply this weird doomsday mindset to their gym equipment like it’s their AK-47.
I would feel worried the adjustment plate would go through my forearm/slam or hyperextend my wrist if something bad happened on a heavy rep / if something slipped ... probably why I've never liked the powerblocks either. They look great, just worried about too many spots for catching your hand/forearm if it goes bad...
Picked a pair up, 193/500. They live up to the hype and more. Make my Nuobells feel like toys. Not sure how much more I can add in value compared to this and Garage Gym reviews. It's worth echoing that these are an investment and if you are on the fence - do it. What's more, had some dialogue back and forth with David and he's a solid dude.
Have you had Ironmasters? (I've had them for 2+ years now and have increasingly found them annoying to change weights, plus the QD screw will slightly loosen allowing the plates to rotate. They are VERY durable and tough though, so that's a win.) Really wanting the FAST, but curious what you think. Easy to adjust and change quickly for switching workout exercises like METCON might call for?
I have been waiting for this, I bought the Nuobells just because I was tiered of waiting. It looks like the V2 of these will be worth waiting for mainly for refinements to the handle/ adjustment bar and hopefully balanced 5 pound adjustments.
@@alexbenzler5327 they work perfect. Can change quick to do supersets, never had a failure, feel like real DBs. I had the Bowflex before and the Nuos are significantly better. I bought some 85 and 95 fixed DBs as well
Ah you know I had a clip of my doing overhead tricep extensions but forgot to show it. It's doable, a bit awkward, but the thing for me (who has terrible shoulder mobility), the the metal plates don't feel great if you whack yourself in the neck.
I sold my elite powerblocks and went with the rep set. Unless I had very limited space I would never go back to selector dumbbells. Good to see another alternative though
Yeah if I wanted to I could prob ditch my fixed and open up a whole wall for more equipment but tbh my wife does a shit ton of DB work and supersets so it would not go over well lol.
What about the dynamics of the resistance as they do not have their weight equally distributed. The gap on the plates for the guide rails are in a diagonal across the dumbbell. It will be ok for presses but may feel weird in some movements.
@@BasementBrandon saw it, like ur channel more. I just find him at least on yt, don't know him to be a goof ball, presence on yt is where it matters when ur watching.
Oof 2700$ CAD including shipping out here to Alberta for the 120’s. I’ll stick to my barbell and plates for now but the steel construction and lifetime warranty is pretty attractive. I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on these.
Is there any rattle between the plates? I'm curious if they feel just like a fixed dumbbell or maybe more like a slightly loose spinlock dumbbell, where there can be some play with the plates during use.
I like the idea of these but see too much plate movement which was one of the many reasons I had to ditch my powerblocks and pickup my current Iron Master set. Plus there still isn't anything that will get as heavy as IMs with their heavy handle kit installed. Heavy Dumbell presses are a crutial part of my training and has helped my bench tremendously. I would enjoy using these for a quick workout or dropset but they would never replace my IM
How do these feel in regards to balancing the load (like a round dumbbell). My gripe with IM is because they are square they weight gets thrown off center due to gravity if not parallel with the ground. Sometimes happens during heavy pressing, or even flys, curls, etc. which is noticeable to me compared to my urethane dumbbells. How do these compare with the octagon weight distribution?
Do you think something like spot grips would fit with these? The side bars for selecting weight seem like they would get in the way but not sure on this.
I have had Nuobells for about 4 months now. I set them down a little too hard one time and now one of the weight indicators is stuck. Also, I have had the five pound weight fall off and had to fiddle with it for a few minutes.
Is it a hassle to use with straps due to the guide rails (like for heavy DB rows)? It was pretty annoying with powerblocks, but these seem like there's probably enough clearance for it to not be much of a problem.
A realistic drop test would be from chest-press height, to simulate muscle tear/spasm / no chance to control the drop. Dropping from overhead ...uncontrolled, in real-life, your own outcome is destined to far worse than broken dumbbells.
These are awesome. I am actually a fan of power blocks. But, shortly after getting my set, they released new models and it is unclear that I can get the previous expansions (this is now years later). One reason I went power block was the kettlebell handles. I got all this when all I had was a bench and powerblocks. That versatility was huge. Any idea if they have a kettlebell solution? I am about to start exploring kroc rows. If my powerblocks don’t cut it (and can’t be expanded further) these will be in my future. As always, great review!
@@BasementBrandon I see a "new product" for adjustable kettlebell. But they look like they will be light weight by comparison to the 120lb fast. I think using a landmine and handle I already own is going to be the better option for now. I had done meadows rows in the past. Kroc rows just sound more fun. Powerblocks go up to 175 now. That's pretty cool.
I had asked if these were compatible with kettle gryp handles? Coop regularly recommends them so that's always something to try if Pepin don't have their own solution
Any idea if these are compatible with kettle gryps or monkeyfeet? These are two small versatile pieces of equipment I want to use with whichever adjustable dumbbells I buy as I will probably not have space for a rack initially and would open up adjustable dumbbells to a range of different movements. One of the key reasons I've ruled out PowerBlocks and IM (with two handles) are where I'm likely to go
I'm not sure as I don't own them. You don't have a ton of room to maneuver. Based off look, I'd assume the Kettle Gryps would work but don't think the Monkey Feet would.
@basementbrandon Hello! Enjoyed this review, especially now that the Repin version is coming out and look very promising. Question for you about these - is the cage on each one annoying or don't really notice? Let's say you wanted to use straps for a heavy back row to conserve the grip, is there enough room to get the straps around the handle? Thanks, sir!
@@BasementBrandon got it, thank you. I’ll get to put hands on the prototypes at HGC next weekend, just saw something mentioned about these not being conducive for straps and was curious if your take. Thanks again!
Can you do tow hand overhead tricep extension with these? It is impossible with the powerblocks. Cannot fit both hands in the powerblock cage. These look to have more space but wondering if there is enough space to perform the exercise.
Yes, I filmed it but forgot to include. It's doable but a bit wonky in my opinion. Also with the hard edges if you hit yourself or have shitty shoulder mobility like me, good luck!
I know what you mean about ironmaster, I also seem to carry over weight from one thing to another to save changing (I do have 2sets tho so it’s not that bad, joys or eBay). The pepin look really good but for what you want, dumbbells from 105 to 120, how often would you need to change the weight on the ironmaster if you were to use them for that range? I know you got these for free but raising the point as with you having the rep dumbbells what you want is quite specific. Taking the major point you were making about adjustable dumbbells was cost savings and the ironmaster are cheaper.
The problem with the IM is still the adjusting. The 120lbs set comes with bigger plates and bigger screws. If you cross that threshold you need to ditch the bigger plates and use different screws. You also likely need their stand (or any stand) to hold the plates as they just stack somewhere. I like how the pepins are self contained. If I didn't have the Pepins now, I would either go the full fixed route, or more than likely just not get DBs since the price/return isn't worth it.
@@BasementBrandon I can see all your points. Obviously if you have the stand they would be similar footprint as the pepins and it probably still be cheaper. I only raise it as it seemed to be a big driver between the adjustable and fixed dumbell options. The pepin so look awesome but ive mamaged to get 2 sets (1x 54kg and 1x34kg) for less than the pepin (not thaf they were available at the time), but yes, I'd also love the ease of adjustability of the pepins.
It really depends on a few things. How much space you want to give up, how much you want to spend, how quickly you want it to adjust, if they're droppable and how you want it to feel.
Thanks for doing the video. The price for that set you have is $2500 which is High !!. $1700 is reasonable for what you get. The drop test that you did was a practical one. I don’t mis use my equipment or anyone else’s. Dropping the Pepin dumbbells any higher than 12” isn’t practical. Another downside besides the price is the 14 week wait time . Thanks again
I believe Bowflex Selecttech can make 2.5lb increments up to a certain weight but then you have all the other downsides of Bowflex (plastic parts, DB length is always the same for all weights, etc)
@@BasementBrandon that’s good to hear. How’s the feel in comparison to say powerblocks or ironmaster? Do they feel caged or more free like a traditional dumbbell or mix of both with the side support bars? Thanks!
…great review…thx so much!…I bought the nuobell because of the 5 lb increments/5 lb minimum…I would have considered the pepin even though the pepin was double the price…
They look pretty good but those guide rails would drive me nuts. I love my Ironmasters and don't mind changing the weights, especially keeping and extra $1K in my pocket.
Most people don't want to spend money on them. Coop from Garage Gym Reviews will be doing a video on them soon though and that will prob convince more people.
Once that tax and shipping hits, that $1.7k is a little out of range. Maybe, I'll buy these when the time is right. Don't need them- but, you know how it goes: convenience and more training options
Hey all, I heard from Pepin and they're planning on releasing an add on magnet sets that will allow you to evenly add 2.5 or 5lbs to the dumbbells for those of you who don't want to have one extra plate per side like I showed on how to do 5lbs jumps.
That's cool. I was thinking about the Plate Mate magnets and how they'd probably work.
So it'll be slide two rails, making sure you hit right marks, then squeeze in two magnetic plates. I can imagine that might end up being an off-putting hassle, like changing weights on iron masters. We're getting closer to the holy grail, this probably isn't it though I think.
@@DavidLee-cw6ci still would be way faster than adjusting Ironmasters
@@DavidLee-cw6ci significantly more convenient than iron-masters, and it’s not even close. The sliders are smooth and literally take one second.
Can’t wait for the v3 lol
This review is pointless without testing the durability of these dumbbells by throwing from the 23rd floor of the Nakatomi Plaza.
LOL! That would be fun to watch. I bet Coop at garage gym reviews would do it.
@@markhalstead2386 Definitely
You had me in the first half.
Go easy now Hans.
Yippee kay ay @&$&!!!
I have added these dumbbells to a phantom cart so many times. I really want to pull the trigger because as you stated, small space + value. I like a lot of what Pepin has been making and the Fast series is solid and fast. Thanks for the video
Interestingly enough the Havak guys have been very supportive of my Pepin posts!
I can't pull the trigger either, since its $2,400 shipped to my door. The Ironmasters and Powerblocks are less than half that
@@jaycherno1141 whoaaa shipping is $600?!? I just bought a 300 lbs treadmill and shipping was $160. These dumbells are much easier to maneuver than a treadmill! $600 for shipping is absurd.
@@dasdos002 I agree. It was $750 shipping for me! I ended up going with Ironmaster (free shipping).
@@jaycherno1141 good call! That’s a lot of money just to move two small boxes! What are they smoking?!?
Great review! I wish these were available when I bought my original Pepin set about 18 months ago. I don’t like changing them out as much anymore but spending $1700 to replace is hard to justify. The knurling on them is the best of any adjustable dumbbells I have tried. Pepin makes quality products for sure!
Yeah I’ll just get get 500 pounds worth of barbell for like a fourth the cost
I've enjoyed my HDs as well, but agree they do get tiresome to change. I've upgraded equipment in the past by selling what I have to help offset the cost of something new.
I really like the fact that you are reviewing Canadian products! Finally some stuff for us Canucks that we dont get rob with custom fees and shipping...up to you now! Great review
There are some great Canadian companies in my gym like Pepin, Irwin, and Oak Club!
First day impressions:It arrived in a waist high box. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxP26Tir6n60vUkdtn4mbwhRO8cwuJQNy2 Each dumbbell was in its own foam box within the shipping box. Everything was secure and in good shape. No weird smells. The weight changing mechanism is really smooth and straight forward. Changing weight is really fast and easy. Though the handle is plastic, I don't think it will be breaking anytime soon. So far pretty impressed after my first session with them. I was afraid they were going to be too wide at first, but I didn't have any issues with them while doing upright rows.
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Great point on the drop test, it doesn’t make sense to drop them any other way. The only thing I’ve ever spent that much money on is my functional trainer and even 2 years later I still guide the weights down carefully
In time mike… in time 🤡
I'm pretty old school when it comes to lifting. I've been doing it since 1978. I was taught never to drop the weights. The weights back then were very high quality (like everything else) but dropping them was simply out of the question. Cross fit style training with all of the Olympic lifting has really opened the door to dropping weights. No matter how well something is made its not going to last as long if you feel the need to keep dropping the equipment. Even with bumper plates I still wouldn't be inclined to drop my weights. It's just too ingrained in me not to do so.
@@stevesorensen9648 I agree. Unless you feel as though you're about to injure yourself, I see no reason to throw weights.
dropping dumbbells can be completely involuntary or a good thing to do to avoid an impending injury. Think flat/incline DB press/flys. There are times when dropping them from height would absolutely be the right thing to do and trying to guide them down would be stupid as you'd risk worse injury. By all means if you never push anywhere close to failure and only use light weight, then dropping is probably not going to be a consideration
@@trulsrohk1 I have dropped a db while failing on a db bench press. Arm started to "wander" and that was it. My set up was not very good. Obviously, it is not up head high, but it is higher than Brandon is doing here.
I sprained the F outta my wrist when i was younger trying not to drop the 120s after a chest press; trying to slowly lower them to the floor as best i could. I felt my wrist translate across my forearm when my wrist had the max leverage on it. It swelled up immediately, lost ROM and hurt for 3 months. Now I always make sure i save enough to bring them to my knees and swing myself back up. These dumbbells look really cool. I've had power blocks for over 10 years and like them.
That doesn't sound fun :(
@@BasementBrandon I took the “don’t drop the weights” gym sign too far haha
@@DrTopLiftDPT 😂
The all steel construction really does it for me. Ooohhh yeaa, dig it.
It's over the top in the best way lol
Thanks for the video. I've wanted a pair of these since I first saw the design, and this video only further sold me on them. Pepin seems like a very straightforward, honest company.
I have these and they are 100% worth it
He's been really communicative throughout the process.
@Basement Brandon That matters to me a lot. Obviously I want items that match my needs the most perfectly, but I also want to support businesses that listen to feedback and adapt accordingly.
I was wondering what number you got! I'm number 4! I also got the stand and heavy handle kit. Because I ordered it with the heavy handle they etched the numbers appropriately so it reads 30-130 on the rails. They feel like the best of all worlds adjustable dumbbells to me.
Ah was not aware, that's cool to know!
Where did you see the heavy handle kit? I can’t seem to see find the kit.
I should clarify, production was taking longer than anticipated, so he emailed me about a discount and informed me of a future stand and heavy handle add on. I asked what it might look like, and he sent a prototype photo and its really 2 additional plates that bolt to the inner plates of the handle. There is less handle room now but I've got fairly meaty paws and they fit just fine, no rubbing. Not sure if you need to email him for the add on kit??
@@garrettsolberg9100 thank you for responding! I Definitely should contact him. Been wanting adjustable dumbells over 100lbs these seem to be a good fit.
I couldn’t find where to add the heavy handle kit when I purchased. But it’s cool, I use 20s more than 130s
Edit: nvm should’ve kept reading
I love the fact there are no gears, dials, threads. Etc to fail. Super simple, super strong design.
agreed
I love the fact that Rep is releasing them for half the price!
@@joeschmidhofer2674 Thanks for the heads up.... looks like 32% off actually.. but a 6 month wait for pre orders. ;-(
Watching this stuff evolve has been a fun ride
In soviet russia, dumbbells lift you.
It is great to see the progress and development of Home Gym equipment. Just jealous that these didn’t exist sooner. too much effort to sell my IMs and Powerblocks.
Yeah things keep improving, which sucks bc it means I keep buying 😝
Very random comment, but these are made in North America, specifically Beauce, one of the great entrepreneurial regions of Canada. It is amazing to see a small company make such an amazing high quality product, very innovative 💪
Appreciate the insight!
How is reracking after a hard, heavy set? I find aligning my Powerblocks can be difficult when I'm gassed. Great review brother! These look to be the new standard of adjustable dumbbells.
The 120s can be a bit tough depending on where the cradle is. For me too I think I should play with where the ends bolt on as they allow you to adjust width some. I imagine if it’s dialed in, it would be harder to “miss”.
@@BasementBrandon do you mean like slightly loosening the bolt-on pieces? I’m having trouble imagining what you’d tweak
@@BrandonSchwartz1 The 2 pieces of the cradle that stick up and hold in the end plates bolts on. There's about .5" of adjustability on either side. If you push them both all the way in, it may be too narrow to rerack the handle unless you're 100% dead on.
you're making think of selling my powerblocks brandon... 90 lbs is too light, i need some 120s.
Sorry 😅
If memory serves me right 5-50 in dumbbell pairs is 550 pounds, 55-100 is 1500 or 1550, and 105-125 is 1150 pounds. Adjustable dumbbells make the most sense the heavier you go.. I prioritize durability and quick change but I sacrifice feel with my power blocks going to 125 and use DB Olympic handles for heavier than that. Not a fan of the the giant power U175 blocks just too wide for me.
Yeah a lot of preference will always dictate buying decisions.
For your follow up video, can you check if it’s possible to put a microgains 1.25 and 2.25 on both sides of the handle and still have room? That’d let you hit the 7.5 increments as well while staying balanced
I don't have the 2.25 set but we will see!
These look great, and I certainly agree on the value proposition of them. That railing on the sides is not ideal, but they are heavy, quick changing and steel. That has been a unicorn in the adjustable dumbbell arena. Great review man!
Yeah the rails are not ideal, but it's better than Nuobell's plastic cam followers that are practically guaranteed to break sooner or later and are not serviceable.
@@plmn93 totally agree
I have them and the rails actually don't bother me at all, I was worried too
Thanks Philip!
@@JBS7551 Thank you for sharing your direct experience!
100% agreed on the drop test. The demonstrated drop test is a good example of a natural “drop.” Just throwing the weights around has always felt…obscene to me. I don’t get why people are comfortable doing that.
Appreciated! Some still aren't happy, but I tested them how I would use them, which is all I need 😅
When these first came out I was for sure getting these but now I’m thinking about just going with iron master. These are amazing but Id rather save the difference and buy something else for my gym
Fair enough!
I'm excited for these. I'll save up, so hopefully ny the time I get enough cash a new revision comes out. The upside for these are going up to 120lbs each. That's a real good weight.
What’s the release date for the revision?
Pepin is great. I’ve got their spinners and they’re holding up great.
Really nice quality in my pieces from them.
These are so sick. Just hard to justify dropping 2k for me when dumbbells would just be secondary work for me (I do think the pricing is fair because they replace an entire set) I think I am going to get the bolt fitness octobells that go to 80 lbs in the coming months.
I have those. Love them. Literally just like nuobells except in a octagon shape. Knurling is very passive though if you care about that. I have the bolts for accessory and then for heavy db work I have a pair of loadable dumbells but since I powerlift most of my workout is barbell with dbs being accessory work... If I could do it all over and get either these or the setup that I already have, I would probably still get the set up that I have since I saved close to a grand.
Yeah I agree. I got away without DBs in my home gym for a long time and believe I could still do so if I wanted.
I have the same set. Valid concerns for peoples comments on the plastic but I haven’t seen any reports of major or minor failure of Nuobell style dumbbells but time will tell. I love my set. My only regret is not getting the military green versions lol
I’d love for your video to cover the safety of the locking mechanism. How prone or likely is it to accidentally unlock these mid-lift?
I think if it were to unlock anywhere it would be on the drops. While lifting there's nothing that should jar it loose.
I prefer the nuobell switching style but the all metal construction on Pepin is more durable. Merry them up get the best of both worlds. That would be the optimal design.
I've heard of a few people having issues with the mechanism, so I worry that may not be the best solution.
Nice review as always. I have the first version of their screw-in (HD is the name now?). It was one of their early orders before things went banana and I still love them today. The knurling is amazing and I got their fat version afterwards. Yes it takes a bit of time to setup and you can't drop them from car chase, but it's still one of my precious gym possessions. I can't recommend them enough. Buying these new shiny ones would be a stretch with wifey though...
However, I'm very happy to see that David updated the design numerous times and now just released the most advanced adjustable model.
Very happy to see too that we're from the same Canadian province and that we can encourage our people here with crazy nice local made stuff ;)
Go Poutine GO!
I'll do a video of the HDs, I think there were a few enhancements but would love to hear your point of view.
@@BasementBrandon The first version is "hand made", not CNC. They looks good in a picture, but in real life those are very beautiful... When the delivery man came and put the box in my hand, he said : That is heavy... ;)
I purchase used the fat handles afterwards, and those ARE FAT. I've tried fatgrip on the normal one, but since the handle is bigger, they could not fit well. The guy that sold my the fat handles was a welder and he told me that David, that handmade all the handles before, made one of the best welds he ever seen and it will never fail "that guy makes arts"... (I'm no welder, just reporting what he told me). At first, I didn't had any uhmw donut inside, I had to purchase it afterwards so the tightness were not "there" at first.
They are also a bit slower when you screw it than the new model (same version but enhanced and better made). It was still evolving a lot at the time. Also, I have to check before and after each sets that the screw are tight. It annoys my wife, but I got used to it, I don't even thinks about it now.
The knurling on the normal handle is not TPB, but close. For a DB it's definitely very high end... I don't know what Coop got, but mine is quite sharp... The fat version has a milder knurling, but not bad at all, but maybe closer to what Coop described.. Not the typical DB thing however and nothing to complain about really...
What I've found, is that you need to ensure that you have at least 1 inch of screw inside the handle to have a safe set, I've stretched my luck one time, but hopefully nothing bad happened and the weight came of. You just need to be aware.
Other than this, the DB is great and I'm still figuring out how I could load them faster, like the IM... I might build a rig at some point. The stand that Pepin's sell dream great, but man that's big for a homegym... And when you load a 80-100 DB, you don't want to bring them on a high table... However, when you get used to it (2y), you can definitely be quick at building your DB. If you prepare your things in your resttime you can make it smooth and quick. On the ground is the best IMO, and it's really fast with experience though it was not the case when I got it... Magnetic weight attachments are a great assets, I might invest in microgains or other gadgets like this to load even faster.
About the plating, even after two years of everyday use, I got a couple of scratches, but nothing that really attacked the plating itself. The nickel is still looking crazy great...
Really, I bought them before it went banana and I'm glad I did and this is something I will probably keep forever.
My wife told me she would like another sets for her... Eh boy... It sure that if I had the money I would get the fast one right away, but I'm extremely satisfied with what I have and getting those would be a luxury. And my wife needs to learn to enjoy what we have!!!
wouldnt it be de nice if the side pieces (where you adjust the weight) in between plate would be rounded, that would potentielly give you more options on how you grip the weight, like say a DB pull over. That could be awkward otherwise?
I have them and do pullovers just fine
I've found overhead ext can be a bit wonky, but we'll see how Pepin continues to improve these.
Can you comfortably do pullovers with these dumbbells? My only concern with them are the rails for adjustment.
I wouldn't say comfortably but they can be done.
Great review! I've been loving my set. My only real issue is the offset adjustment isn't ideal, but it hasn't been a major problem so far. I've also been looking into either the MicroGianz or PlateMate (magnetic) adder plates for both 2.5 and 5 lb adjustments. The bonus of getting those is I can also use them on my lat pull down/low row.
I definitely agree on the value of these. They are expensive, but well worth it compared to the alternatives for a similar weight range. The adjustment speed is worth the extra $600 to me versus the iron masters.
I got the platemates for mine and it works great 😀
I was thinking the same thing with the 2.5lbs micro plates.. I just don't know if it would fit well with the side rail.. looks like the 1.25 micro plates just fit. But if the 2.5lbs ones fit that would fit the counter balance problem
@@JBS7551 great to hear!
@@gavinmarion91 yeah, that’s my concern with the MicroGainz and why I’m leaning towards platemate.
I just pinned my comment, but Pepin will also be releasing magnet sets for 5lbs and 2.5lbs jumps if people prefer.
Do you know if the Mad Spotter Hooks will work with these? Good to know for going really heavy for some folks.
I don't believe the Mad Spotter Pro hooks will as they have a max handle girth of 32mm.
Thanks for the review I have been looking for durable adjustable dumbells I was a bit thrown off by the price but when you explained in context makes total sense.
Thanks for taking a look!
Great review Brandon. I may have to replace my fixed dumbbells for a pair of these and make room for more equipment 👌🏼
I think if it came down to me wanting more pieces that may be a route I'd explore too. But right now I love my fixed set and the versatility of the Iron Bear.
@@BasementBrandon for sure. I only have fixed DB’s up to 50 in 5LB incriminates so I wouldn’t be losing anything really in upgrading to these.
I bought the bow flex adjustable ones like 3 years ago. They still are as good as day 1. That being said I’ve always been careful not to be rough when putting them down.
Edit: that being said, when I bought them they were not as marked up as they are now. I would not pay over $250 for them again.
Appreciate the feedback!
I really hope they adjust the handle weight so that it's closer to 20lb than 21lb. At the measured 20.75lb that's +3.75% of the stated weight. I expect more accurate tolerances at this price.
I believe he changed some of the pieces to make them more robust.
I'm seeing other fellow Europeans that crave this product. Maybe one day 🙏
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They're $1700 , but another $300 for shipping. That's worth noting. If comparing to the price of Iron Masters, Iron Master is free shipping.
I have both these and iron master but man, fast series takes the cake
@@JBS7551 I ended up selling my Iron Master 5-120lb dumbbells for the same reasons mentioned in the video. They don't take THAT long to change, but long enough for me to not want to mess with them, especially when training with limited time. I bought individual DBs up to 65lbs, but really want the Peppin Fast Series -- I just don't think I can justify the cost.
@gtlandis86 Yeah adjusting the iron masters gets to be a real pain, especially when needing to do big changes.
I may sell mine and get a solid set of metal adjustables that go from 5-50, I don't know of a good brand for that yet
Yeah shipping needs to be considered but I think the point still remains the same. For the features they offer the price point is still relatively low in context.
@@BasementBrandon For sure, no matter how you look at it, adjustable dumbbells will be cheaper than individual dumbbells. It's just a matter of finding the ones you like the best from a form/function and durability standpoint.
Does the cradle have to be flat or can you use an angled stand?
Seems like with the stand at an angle the extea weights would fall over when you take the handle out.
Cradles must be on a flat surface for proper functionality. But plates can't fall as they are held by the support, even at angle.
I see david answered. I would think angled would work as the end of the cradle has a female end to lock plates, but racking would be awkward.
I get the cost thing, obviously a set for each pair from 5 pounds to 120 will be like 10k lol. But for most people started home gym. A barbell with 500 pounds and maybe a 15, 30, and 60 pound pair. I just won’t be DB presses and rowing the 100s which is why a barbell is for. A home gym my definition and comparison is a compromise
I think it just depends on the individual. A lot of people may say they can’t train at home bc they miss dbs or they can’t fit them in their home. This prob caters towards that crowd.
I agree with your position on the dropping of them. I too control the drop whether it’s my own equipment or not. People apply this weird doomsday mindset to their gym equipment like it’s their AK-47.
It's funny b/c before I owned a home gym, I was prob of the same mindset 😅
I would feel worried the adjustment plate would go through my forearm/slam or hyperextend my wrist if something bad happened on a heavy rep / if something slipped ... probably why I've never liked the powerblocks either. They look great, just worried about too many spots for catching your hand/forearm if it goes bad...
Makes sense! On the bright side, lifetime warranty could be extended to your wife 😅
Picked a pair up, 193/500. They live up to the hype and more. Make my Nuobells feel like toys. Not sure how much more I can add in value compared to this and Garage Gym reviews. It's worth echoing that these are an investment and if you are on the fence - do it. What's more, had some dialogue back and forth with David and he's a solid dude.
Nice pick up!!
Have you had Ironmasters? (I've had them for 2+ years now and have increasingly found them annoying to change weights, plus the QD screw will slightly loosen allowing the plates to rotate. They are VERY durable and tough though, so that's a win.) Really wanting the FAST, but curious what you think. Easy to adjust and change quickly for switching workout exercises like METCON might call for?
I have been waiting for this, I bought the Nuobells just because I was tiered of waiting. It looks like the V2 of these will be worth waiting for mainly for refinements to the handle/ adjustment bar and hopefully balanced 5 pound adjustments.
Yeah it’s cool to see him actively improving things as part of the process.
When is v2 supposed to release?
And release in the UK?
how do you like the nuobells?
@@alexbenzler5327 they work perfect. Can change quick to do supersets, never had a failure, feel like real DBs. I had the Bowflex before and the Nuos are significantly better. I bought some 85 and 95 fixed DBs as well
How do these feel when holding them vertically, like for doing dumbbell french presses or dumbbell pullovers? Do the side rails get in the way?
Ah you know I had a clip of my doing overhead tricep extensions but forgot to show it. It's doable, a bit awkward, but the thing for me (who has terrible shoulder mobility), the the metal plates don't feel great if you whack yourself in the neck.
I do pullovers with these and took a bit to get used to but I like it and works well
Like that they are all steel. Not really a bad price if you are considering a full set of dumbbells 5-120s
Exactly!
Thanks for this review Brandon! 👊🏻
You bet!
I sold my elite powerblocks and went with the rep set. Unless I had very limited space I would never go back to selector dumbbells. Good to see another alternative though
Yeah if I wanted to I could prob ditch my fixed and open up a whole wall for more equipment but tbh my wife does a shit ton of DB work and supersets so it would not go over well lol.
"nature of the beast" - only commenting that because you suggested the comments would contain a correction. great video, thanks!
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ahhh cant wait for these, great review as always. They look super beefy
When are yours coming in?
I have powerblocks 90 and have been looking to get something in 120. Definitely considering these
I think they make a powerblock that goes up that high as well, no?
@@BasementBrandon ya they do but i can’t find that for the model I have it only goes to 90
Those are really nice! I have the first generation Pepin handles and I really like the feel of them in my hands.
Agreed, he does a good handle!
Do you find the guide rails get in the way? I love these but hate that feature. You can't do movements like dumbbell pullovers or goblet squats.
Not for normal pressing movements, but pullovers are more awkward.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks for the reply! Are you going to review the Pepin HD series? I'm interested in those and would love a thorough review! Thanks.
@@HughLeFitness I have a set, I just need to find time to do a video.
How is it aiming the dumbbell for placing back into the cradle? Almost looks like you’d have to line it up pretty precisely.
Harder as it gets heavier, the side cradles can be adjusted some to give you a bit of wiggle room.
It looks like these are the best around currently for a blend of quality and quick adjusting while going to a good weight.
I think if someone is looking for quick adjustable and as heavy as possible, they're hard to beat.
What about the dynamics of the resistance as they do not have their weight equally distributed. The gap on the plates for the guide rails are in a diagonal across the dumbbell. It will be ok for presses but may feel weird in some movements.
Haven't had any issues personally!
I wonder if he's gonna have the garage gym review guy, coop do a review too, not a big fan of him, comes off as a goofball. Glad ur doing it.
I know Coop reviewed the other Pepin adjustables that i have and he was pretty complimentary.
@@BasementBrandon saw it, like ur channel more. I just find him at least on yt, don't know him to be a goof ball, presence on yt is where it matters when ur watching.
Oof 2700$ CAD including shipping out here to Alberta for the 120’s. I’ll stick to my barbell and plates for now but the steel construction and lifetime warranty is pretty attractive. I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on these.
Def a commitment!
Is there any rattle between the plates? I'm curious if they feel just like a fixed dumbbell or maybe more like a slightly loose spinlock dumbbell, where there can be some play with the plates during use.
If you change directions forcefully you'll hear a quick rattle, but otherwise pretty quiet to me.
Nuobell is the best ones for me.
Nice!
I agree with your drop point. If somebody is dropping higher up of with more force, then the weight is too heavy for them
The more equipment I buy, the better I take care of all equipment (my gym or a public one)
I like the idea of these but see too much plate movement which was one of the many reasons I had to ditch my powerblocks and pickup my current Iron Master set. Plus there still isn't anything that will get as heavy as IMs with their heavy handle kit installed. Heavy Dumbell presses are a crutial part of my training and has helped my bench tremendously. I would enjoy using these for a quick workout or dropset but they would never replace my IM
Right on, I don't find much movement with these!
How do these feel in regards to balancing the load (like a round dumbbell). My gripe with IM is because they are square they weight gets thrown off center due to gravity if not parallel with the ground. Sometimes happens during heavy pressing, or even flys, curls, etc. which is noticeable to me compared to my urethane dumbbells. How do these compare with the octagon weight distribution?
I never ran into that issue with my IM, so I'm not sure my answer would help here.
If you are doing curls with that handle do the two metal plates ever bump the wrist?
Not unless you're bending your wrists in
Do you think something like spot grips would fit with these? The side bars for selecting weight seem like they would get in the way but not sure on this.
I've never owned any so can't really say!
I have had Nuobells for about 4 months now. I set them down a little too hard one time and now one of the weight indicators is stuck. Also, I have had the five pound weight fall off and had to fiddle with it for a few minutes.
Hopefully they took care of that under warranty
@@BasementBrandon I haven’t tried since they still function properly but maybe I should.
Is it a hassle to use with straps due to the guide rails (like for heavy DB rows)? It was pretty annoying with powerblocks, but these seem like there's probably enough clearance for it to not be much of a problem.
I'm not sure TBH, I haven't tried!
A realistic drop test would be from chest-press height, to simulate muscle tear/spasm / no chance to control the drop.
Dropping from overhead ...uncontrolled, in real-life, your own outcome is destined to far worse than broken dumbbells.
That's not a realistic scenario. How many people tear a pec when DB bench pressing?
@@BasementBrandon I tore my left rotator cuff doing DB fly's. I dropped that dumbbell real quick.
Awesome review there, Good job! 👌🏻💪🏻
Thanks! 👍
Thank you for the honest review.
Always!
Do you think rust would ever be an issue in it's function since it's all metal?
Anytime you have metal anything you may get oxidation.
These are awesome. I am actually a fan of power blocks. But, shortly after getting my set, they released new models and it is unclear that I can get the previous expansions (this is now years later). One reason I went power block was the kettlebell handles. I got all this when all I had was a bench and powerblocks. That versatility was huge.
Any idea if they have a kettlebell solution?
I am about to start exploring kroc rows. If my powerblocks don’t cut it (and can’t be expanded further) these will be in my future.
As always, great review!
I believe he made one or is making one.
@@BasementBrandon I see a "new product" for adjustable kettlebell. But they look like they will be light weight by comparison to the 120lb fast.
I think using a landmine and handle I already own is going to be the better option for now. I had done meadows rows in the past. Kroc rows just sound more fun.
Powerblocks go up to 175 now. That's pretty cool.
I had asked if these were compatible with kettle gryp handles? Coop regularly recommends them so that's always something to try if Pepin don't have their own solution
Any idea if these are compatible with kettle gryps or monkeyfeet? These are two small versatile pieces of equipment I want to use with whichever adjustable dumbbells I buy as I will probably not have space for a rack initially and would open up adjustable dumbbells to a range of different movements. One of the key reasons I've ruled out PowerBlocks and IM (with two handles) are where I'm likely to go
I'm not sure as I don't own them. You don't have a ton of room to maneuver. Based off look, I'd assume the Kettle Gryps would work but don't think the Monkey Feet would.
@basementbrandon Hello! Enjoyed this review, especially now that the Repin version is coming out and look very promising. Question for you about these - is the cage on each one annoying or don't really notice? Let's say you wanted to use straps for a heavy back row to conserve the grip, is there enough room to get the straps around the handle? Thanks, sir!
Annoying only for certain exercises to me. Like when you’re doing two hand overhead extensions or pullovers.
@@BasementBrandon got it, thank you. I’ll get to put hands on the prototypes at HGC next weekend, just saw something mentioned about these not being conducive for straps and was curious if your take. Thanks again!
@@jared.freedom.gym2021 They did make it a bit more difficult, but I rarely use straps so I could just have bad form 😅
best review ever! thanks unc
Thanks my dude.
Can you do tow hand overhead tricep extension with these? It is impossible with the powerblocks. Cannot fit both hands in the powerblock cage. These look to have more space but wondering if there is enough space to perform the exercise.
Yes, I filmed it but forgot to include. It's doable but a bit wonky in my opinion. Also with the hard edges if you hit yourself or have shitty shoulder mobility like me, good luck!
@@BasementBrandon Thanks for replying.
Great solid review
Thanks dude!
@@BasementBrandon since the very first video I commented on 10 years ago, you still make it a point to respond. You Sir live the Stay Big mentality!
Rep Fitness 🔥
soon!
I know what you mean about ironmaster, I also seem to carry over weight from one thing to another to save changing (I do have 2sets tho so it’s not that bad, joys or eBay). The pepin look really good but for what you want, dumbbells from 105 to 120, how often would you need to change the weight on the ironmaster if you were to use them for that range?
I know you got these for free but raising the point as with you having the rep dumbbells what you want is quite specific. Taking the major point you were making about adjustable dumbbells was cost savings and the ironmaster are cheaper.
The problem with the IM is still the adjusting. The 120lbs set comes with bigger plates and bigger screws. If you cross that threshold you need to ditch the bigger plates and use different screws. You also likely need their stand (or any stand) to hold the plates as they just stack somewhere. I like how the pepins are self contained. If I didn't have the Pepins now, I would either go the full fixed route, or more than likely just not get DBs since the price/return isn't worth it.
@@BasementBrandon I can see all your points. Obviously if you have the stand they would be similar footprint as the pepins and it probably still be cheaper. I only raise it as it seemed to be a big driver between the adjustable and fixed dumbell options. The pepin so look awesome but ive mamaged to get 2 sets (1x 54kg and 1x34kg) for less than the pepin (not thaf they were available at the time), but yes, I'd also love the ease of adjustability of the pepins.
Would you recommend these or the REP 5-50 lb urethane sets? Also, Pepin Pro or the Ironmaster adjustable dumbbells?
It really depends on a few things. How much space you want to give up, how much you want to spend, how quickly you want it to adjust, if they're droppable and how you want it to feel.
@@BasementBrandon would you go with pepin pro/HD or the ironmaster?
@@Justin-cy8is in that case I'd prob go Iron master as it's a bit easier to adjust/load given the square plates.
Thanks for doing the video. The price for that set you have is $2500 which is High !!. $1700 is reasonable for what you get.
The drop test that you did was a practical one. I don’t mis use my equipment or anyone else’s. Dropping the Pepin dumbbells any higher than 12” isn’t practical. Another downside besides the price is the 14 week wait time . Thanks again
At the time of the video the $2500 was in CAD, which equaled out to about $1700 USD.
Straight GAINZ
Good to hear from ya dude!
@@BasementBrandon thank you my friend
That looks good to be honest especially for a garage gym db setup
Def on the hardcore side!
If I could get these shipped to the UK with KG increments I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Would not want to pay that shipping charge 😅
Other than using the fix you showed at the end of the video, Brandon, are there any adjustable DB sets that have a in-place 2.5 increment increase ?
see on my channel. 4-41 kg increments 1.5 kg
I believe Bowflex Selecttech can make 2.5lb increments up to a certain weight but then you have all the other downsides of Bowflex (plastic parts, DB length is always the same for all weights, etc)
I'm not sure TBH!
Are the handles and cage stainless steel or bare steel?
Stainless
If I didn’t have a teachers salary, these would be in the garage ASAP
Just sell a kidney!
Any thoughts on the pin getting stuck/corroded? Can it be replaced?
Lifetime warranty
@@BasementBrandon that’s good to hear. How’s the feel in comparison to say powerblocks or ironmaster? Do they feel caged or more free like a traditional dumbbell or mix of both with the side support bars? Thanks!
Not as blocky as power blocks but not as free as IM. So a bit in the middle.
If they change the bars on the outside to a set of pins that extrude from inside the handle into the plates this would be a monster!
More likely to break with more moving parts IMO. Just depends what you're looking for!
…great review…thx so much!…I bought the nuobell because of the 5 lb increments/5 lb minimum…I would have considered the pepin even though the pepin was double the price…
Right on!
They look pretty good but those guide rails would drive me nuts. I love my Ironmasters and don't mind changing the weights, especially keeping and extra $1K in my pocket.
Fair enough!
How are goblet squats? I guess you just grab… in between the rods?
Thanks for the review. 💯
those weren't a problem, overhead work can be a little wonky.
For the algorithm… great review man!!
Thanks my brother!
how wide are these compared to fixed dumbbells, and nuobells?
total length or width?
width@@BasementBrandon
So as an Ironmaster owner yourself, would you take these over the Ironmaster's? I love my Ironmasters, but these looks sweet!
Price not considered, yes. Even though the IMs went heavier, I never found I needed that much.
@@BasementBrandon They are awesome. I went to order them but they won’t ship to Germany so I guess I’ll keep my Ironmasters….. which are also great.
Hi Brent ! We do ship to Germany but it's pricey 😅
@@davidoss15 How about to an APO address (military address)?
@@brentgath4447 it has to be shipped by air, that's why it's so expensive
Curious why there aren’t more reviews on these
Most people don't want to spend money on them. Coop from Garage Gym Reviews will be doing a video on them soon though and that will prob convince more people.
Once that tax and shipping hits, that $1.7k is a little out of range. Maybe, I'll buy these when the time is right. Don't need them- but, you know how it goes: convenience and more training options
I hear that!
Maybe i missed this, but was the pricing in Canadian or USD?
USD pricing is $1700 so CAD would be like $2400 or so?
2,304.95 CAD is what they are listed for currently
Would have been cool for you if they only had a 100-130 lb set. Skip all the lighter sizes you already have. For less cost
Would def have helped me, although I don't see many in the market for that 😅
Can you get these only up to 80lbs?
Or is it only 120
I believe they go as low as 60lbs and have different pairs available, which can be expanded.