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THIS MIGHT BE THE ONE! Canon R5II Hands on First Impressions
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Love seeing Manny and Jared's bromance whenever it pops up.
Great videos ... I am more than happy holding on to my R5 for another 2-3 years at least.
Thanks Manny. So far I have looked at several early reviews and to be honest for what I shoot I can't see enough of feature advantages to warrant upgrading from my R5. I see they have merged more of the R5C into the R5 II so if you are migrating to video/hybrid shooting then the new R5 II might be justified. Maybe a year or two down the road I might get a discounted R5 II and keep the R5 as a backup. I have loaned my 5D MkIV to a friends daughter to help her photography career... thinking back, I could have kept the 5D MkIV and not got the R5 and I would still have been happy. I feel we are often sucked into the hype of new gear and often can waste a lot of money.
R5 with Stacked cmos and even better IBIS& AF is not enough? Really?
@@zegzbrutal It's the difference between the new R5 II price here in the UK which is £4,499 and the trade in price of my current R5 of around £1,600... £2,899. Which means I would be paying £2,899 for a camera with slightly better stacked cmos sensor and slightly better IBIS & AF. But, as far as image quality and getting the shot or more keeper images, it is marginal. The R5 is still a great camera and takes amazing images. I was expecting to see more in the R5 II, especially with AI, a better articulated rear screen (like the Sony) and a better menu system, anti-theft security features. the merging of some R5C video features is welcome but only if you are a hybrid shooter as it does not meet the standards and features of a dedicated cinema camera. E.g. does the R5 II meet Netflix standards like the R5C ?
Wow, I am hearing ALOT of talk about a Stacked CMOS sensor, but nobody will tell me how this camera takes better photos. I get it, great at focusing, but I never had a problem focusing my old r5. Improved dynamic range? Crickets. I am mainly landscape, so maybe this upgrade is not for me. If I am wrong, tell me. Thanks!
OMG! I can't wait for my R5ii to come!!! Love my R5 but I'm so excited for the R5ii!!!
Yo, glad I didn't hit buy on that R5 yesterday. I'm definitely going to wait till this is out and I see a proper test from you or Jared P.
Why were you even looking at the r5 haha
@@donovanmortell8434 To be honest the Mark I is still a great camera, especially since it can be found between $2400-$2900 USD at the moment.
It was never so easy to stick with the R5 MK I for many years to come. T
Thank you for doing this review. I think you are the only reviewer out there that actually covered the eye tracking function in detail - Thank you!
People don't talk about eye control enough, it's awesome. I'm left-eyed and the R3 eye control works much better in vertical, but still works fine enough in horizontal. But I welcome it in the R52 as well. It's great, not just for sports but many other things.
Best preview video, I watch all the tour mates of this session, your preview is really clear to understand.
The true Canon flagship.😊
My only complaint about the R5 Mark II is that it's a downgrade from the R5C in ONE category. The R5C has proven that 8K oversampled 4K60p is possible and Nikon had 8K oversampled 4K60p for years but the R5 Mark II still limits it to only 30fps (4K-D Fine and 4K-U Fine are limited to 30fps). The R5 Mark II would be capable of 8K oversampled 4K60p as R5C has proven but Canon seemingly doesn't want to give us oversampled 4K60p to leave it as an exclusive feature for their R5C.
Their newest R5 Mark II should at least match everything their older R5C was capable of. Canon gave us 8K oversampled 4K60p and then took it from us again. Cutting features from your newest flagship camera to leave them as exclusive features on an older camera even though their new camera would technically be capable of is a bad look!
It's not too late to fix this by bringing 8K oversampled 4K60p to the R5 Mark II with a firmware update though. PLEASE CANON!
Absolutely, has me debating sticking with Canon. Not cool
Man you are a chill guy and I like the perspective you took when making this video
Upgraded from the 5D Mark IV, can't wait monday to arrive. 🥰
6:02 Can we please talk about how in 2024 we still have these bar indicators for battery life? Why in the world havent we switched to percent readings for these cameras in the thousands of dollars?
I know its a small nitpick but its one that gets under my skin the most.... i hate wondering if my battery is at 28% or at 45% when theres 2/4 bars on the screen
So true. Very annoying.
switch over to sony. they have that since years 😊
Sony uses %
@RiposteThis yeah I got that but I suppose I was referring to the industry as a whole. Like this tech has been abandoned in other devices for 10+ years already
YES! I researched night and day trying to figure out how to get the actual number on my z9 and never found an answer
I ordered one! 😎
I love how Jared was comforting you as you actually put your eye to the viewfinder!!! Lol. He tortures you for that. Lol. Hope you're well, Manny!
Another short list with incremental improvements nobody needs. I’ll keep using my 5D Mark IV until it stops working.
So z8 or this ? It looks to me like the z8 is a much better video camera...
Z8 has prores but poor nlog. R5ii has clog2 and waveform. I don't see it as inferior
@@zegzbrutal how is the n-log poor? It's pretty great. You get raw up to 4k 120fps. The r5's image looks like it is super compressed and has a shit ton of aliasing and moire in the 4k formats that are line skipping, which is every frame rate beyond 30fps. The r5c even is a much better video camera today.
@@zegzbrutal Z8 has waveforms
It probably makes more sense to compare systems
Which brand has the lenses nest suited to your genre?
@@gourami7 both really. But today, I'd say Nikon has a much better lens selection as the entire Tamron lineup is available too, some sigmas and you can adapt all e-mount ones.
Full disclosure...I'm glad I waited for the R5 mark ii. 😁
I love how Canon’s press trip was flying you all to Arizona to take photos of kids playing intramural sports in a gym.
Appreciate the review Manny.
Mannie, this was an excellent review. Thank you sir. God bless you. 😊
Thank you. I shoot both EOS R5 and Sony A1 and other bodies. Key question I want the answer to is how does it really compare to the Sony A1? 45-50 Mpixels is the sweet spot for me and now that both have a stacked BSI sensor how are do they compare as a stills camera? That is a head to head comparison I want to see. Take care.
Which of your presets did you use for the pics from 3:00 - 3:10? They look 🔥🔥🔥
Love your relationship with Jared!
WHY WAS JARED ON YA BACK LIKE THAT..... 😮
😂😂😂
Bro love 😂
….😂
Bro love it's all good
Manny’s beard and Fro’s hair 😂
The funny thing is that besides Manny and Jared, Chris Nichols and Jordan were also at the same basketball game 😂😂😂
When it comes to how good the autofocus is it makes me wonder how photographers used to focus for fast moving subjects with older cameras
Hi I shot film for four decades and sometimes Motorsport and take it from me the “keeper” rate is a lot better now with the duds costing nothing compared to a lot of $$ 😀 You had to think ahead , pre focus on a point and just go for it . 😀
Nice Update! Looks like a great all around camera. Sooo many great cameras out there now from Canon, Nikon, Sony, Leica, Panasonic, OM, Fuji. The competition is stiff. At a point where just pick one and go out and shoot.
You should put an Emphasis on how you have to buy the $700usd “Fan” “grip” in order to use the “Fan” “feature” on the canon Eos R5 mark ii.
It’s $399
better than Nikon but i will keep Nikon. Too expensive to step over and it's good enough You dont always have to own the best camera to make good pics
I dont shoot sports my r5 OG is STILL awesome... if i need clog2 I USE the v+ it gives you CLOG2 in pr raw 8k 5k60 IF you have this set up choose clog 3 and cinema gamut and the HDMI sends CLOG2 at least according to the atomos v+
I'm interested in what you're saying but I have no idea what you just wrote
How does it compare to the SONY A7R5 ???
That’s almost $6k Canadian, making the Z8 a compatible camera at a better price $500 cheaper). I find canon has priced themselves at the top (between Sony, Canon and Nikon) for both body and lens options
Thank you brother for sharing your ideas. Thank you 🙏
I'm really shocked and surprised at the terrible conversations going on here. Half of it seems like Sony lovers invasion and the rest of it just seems like people who don't have a clue about cameras and think of them as iPhones like every single one needs to be revolutionary. The state of these comments is really really sad and I don't really remember seeing this before in Manny's comment section.
Some of you guys are way too unintelligent to be in here and even try to discuss these features it is way over your head.
interesting thing is, in China, R5II is offcially 27999 CNY(3850 USD) and second hand SONY A1 being 28000 CNY to 32000 CNY(3850-4400USD) while brand new A1 being 34000CNY to 35000CNY(4800 USD). personally I'd take A1 in that case given the overall ecosystem
Nah.... RF24-105LZ+R5ii is a perfect setup, that's unavailable on Sony
Thanks Manny! No hype, straightforward review preview in real world scenario
I’m ready to see you do a full review. Now, if I could figure out how to get that focusing system in my 5d iii.
These video features are looking really good from 4K 60 over sample to eliminating that 30 minute record limit. This will be the camera I get in 2025.
Prob is the one! If i wasnt fully invested in Lumix it would be in my Top 3.🎉Thank You
Give it 30 years and this vintage modell is ”one of canons best color science” 😅
Thank Manny for this video. I would like to add one thing, please. It’s SAD that these days camera manufacturers justify their price increase by adding flashy but IMPRACTICAL features like upscaling jpg files to 180 megapixels! Why don’t Sony and Canon add 32 BIT FLOAT internal audio recording to their cameras? That will help the majority of camera users who are solo shooters. Panasonic LUMIX GH7 already has it. All the pros know audio is worth 50% of their videos. If the audio is bad, then the video is useless.
I’m still choosing the Z8 over this one. Faster sensor, lower base ISO, no need for a special battery to shoot 8k raw at a 1000$ cheaper.
Great review as usual!
Which of these features really make a difference to you for what you seem to shoot mainly…ie commercial portraits, and model shoots?
It’s impossible to justify the A1 at $6500 still in 2024.
It's impossible to justify any of Sony camera bodies' prices. After recent events (Nikon Z6 III, Canon R5 II & R1 announcement) it's more and more apparent that Sony camera bodies from A7 IV, through A7R V all the way to A1 are heavily overpriced.
A7RV is almost 2 years old@@JosefFoti
Uhhh, it's like 4 years old at this point. Technically, you could get it for way less if you know where to get. Otherwise, it's still Sony's flagship so they can justify its price
@@reina5834 Uhh, yeah it’s a 4 year old camera with no reduction in price. Uhh, the other brands lowered the price on all their cameras. And uhh, the features are the same as the $3500-$4200 cameras for other brands.
If we are not factoring in the lenses and only speaking of the camera bodies, it really is impossible to justify with this release
The One? Isn't it the SECOND one? At best, the R5 II is an iterative improvement. Lots of interesting new features...many of which will not be used by the typical shooter. Upscaling and noise reduction are something I think most will always choose to do in post.
Go Phils!
The R5 was alreday Jesus in a camera, now we have AI assisted viewfinders and subject tracking, this is amazing
and i never knew Manny shot sports?? I mean, you're on the real MLB field
thanks for the video man
Thanks for the review.
youtube influuencers really do live the life
What life??😅 Please I wanna know
@@MannyOrtiz LOL
@@MannyOrtiz Appreciate your videos. Is the r52 worth $4300 for just the body? Have your heard if the body overheats with video?
@@MannyOrtiz don't be so modest LOL
@@DelusionalNYCI don’t think he’s being modest I think he’s expressing how busy he is and how he doesn’t necessarily get to enjoy life as much as you may think! Not that he doesn’t enjoy life but that’s what was implied I believe lol
Brilliant knowledge…you got your presentation nailed… I’ve learned a lot… not just with the cameras but with how u made this 👏👏👏…we have preordered r52 to go with our r3 and 1dx2…I’m wondering if it completely silent shutter or adjustable like r3 in electronic.. although overall I’d love to have 45mp in a r1 body having used 1 series since04 the price tho in uk 🇬🇧 is scandalous 🤬
I would like to do astrophotographery,specifically moon and star clusters/nebulae-any suggestions?
R5 is the one we have been waiting for, your fan from South Africa
Next time I'll be excited for a new camera is when we have a next gen Global Shutter. New cameras nowadays have stagnated... Global Shutter is the future.
Can't wait to watch POV videos of people using this camera! (I won't be able to afford it)
You say you would consider the R5ll for your main sports camera. So whats your main camera for portrait work ? How does the R5ll eye auto focus work along with the eye control ? I have been with Sony since buying my A7r lll around six years ago. But i only have 3 Sony lenses. The 28/55 and 85 f1.8. Because i wanted to keep things small and light. And my camera is still in like new condition. But i still own my 5Dlll and all my Canon mount glass. I am wondering how good older Canon mount glass works with the R5ll. Including Tamron and Sigma glass. Which only works ok on my Sony. The R5ll has me thinking about Canon again. But i have been staying with Sony because of top quality 3rd party glass. Even though i haven't bought any of it yet for my Sony. And also because Canon and Nikons top glass is all so big and heavy like there 50 and 85 f1.2 lenses and there 28/70 f2 lens. Anyway i am ready to treat myself to a new camera. But i might still wait to see whats next from Sony. If i bought the R5ll i would start out by adapting my old glass that i barely ever use on my Sony. But then i think with 4000 dollars i could buy a few really nice new lenses for my A7r lll. I wish i could see a color comparison between an A7r lll and A7rV. And also the R5ll. Because recently i have been looking at some of my older images ftom my 5Dlll and really like how they look. So im going to try playing around with my 5Dlll again. Even though the focusing system is outdated and low tec. Sorry for the long rambling comment. Ive been holding back investing big in Sony to see what Nikon and Canon was going to do. But they keep making huge and heavy glass with almost no 3rd party options.
Manny maybe you can help. I picked up the R5ii and man it’s really nice. I can tell that it is a bit better then my r5 but today I tried to shoot it in hss with my fj400 and it would not go pass 1/250th. My r3 and my r5 have no problem with hss when I switch on the trigger. I shoot with the westscott. I hope you can help.
I'm thinking about buying a system camera soon. Since I don't have any lenses yet, it's easier. In general, I would like Nikon (e.g. Z8) prefer, but too big and too heavy. Z6 III (size would be just right) too expensive (still) for delivered performance. Z7II outdated in terms of Autofocus.. R5 MK2 with better size , better weight than the Z8 , and with one of the best Autofocus. For amateurs like me, who don't earn money with it, both would be greatly exaggerated. But buying again in a short time would be even more expensive. Better to buy once and then be satisfied for a longer period of time.
Thanks for the look Manny. Does the electronic shutter have a digital sound now? Like the r6ii?
You the best mate!
Funny how this is like $2000 cheaper than the R1, but has everything I'd want in a flagship camera.
But also, the R5 mkI can be bought for like $2000 less than this on Ebay, so hmmm....
I pre-ordered it, but man, could they ever had that AF-on back button gotten a bit bigger? I love the one on the R3 and on the R5 is just too small
A pair of A9ii works for me vs buying one camera plus the A9iii is overkill and this camera seems the same.
That handsome gentleman's beard though
does r5 price drop? finally cam buy r5
Did they fix the ibis wobble on wide lenses?
I think the biggest thing that doesn't get much mention are the new cinema video codecs, and also the video menu system.
Hahah, funny to see you and Fro together at the beginning. That picture at 2:59 is epic btw!
I think the r5 is gonna be good enough for me
I don't understand how he's saying the R5 is known for its great dynamic range. It's not at all - it's known for having relatively poor dynamic range compared to other equivalently priced cameras. Did it maybe have very good dynamic range for stills, but not for video or something like that? I don't know if that's possible, but maybe... Otherwise what he's saying seems very odd for a camera reviewer.
So no better image quality just a couple of new tricks. I’ll never give up my A7R5.
I wouldn’t give up on an A7R5 if I had the pleasure of owning one, either. It’s a beast! But there are some things that this new R5 mk2 can do that no other body can. The R5 mk2 has improved the DR to 14-bit RAW in Electronic Shutter mode, which is a really big deal for people that want to stay silent and still get maximum image quality! We will see what the practical limitations are in terms of FPS w.r.t. and AF accuracy - R7 mk1 had some notable AF accuracy inconsistencies at full H+ speed, and it remains to be seen if the R5 mk2 has decisively solved that issue with the new DIGIC Accelerator chip added.
Yes a7rv is better is you only need 10fps and bad rolling shutter
If you do portraits or landscapes no reason to change. Sports and birdlife is totally another business.
Is canon R5 is still worthy to buy in 2024..? Please reply
yes it is
The Canon R5 is STILL the BEST Photography Camera GOING !
Is this a stacked sensor? That is a very big deal and justifies the price point.
Ok sir thanks 😊
Can the R5II shoot bracketed exposures with the electronic shutter?
Every model may be "the one" and eventually disappoints, until one tries the GFX, because no matter how good the bells and whistles, image quality reigns supreme.
Until you try the hasselblad x2d🤣🤣 They the gfx falls short in image quality…. There is no perfect camera, will never be….
@magmaz9465 The Blad rocks, but wait till you try the Horseman! Absolutely agree though; it's just this bullshit that every new camera may be the new best that ages pretty quickly.
looks like R5ii is the meta tank . not sure R1 will sell that much
Will be there any new dummy batteries (a battery with USB or DC cable) for new Canon EOS R5 MK2? 🤔
the best feature of the EOS R5 ii is the price drop for the EOS R5.
I assume that the new R5 II does not have the ridiculous 30 min video record time limit. I can't figure why Canon doesn't just give us a firmware update to remove the limit from the R5.
Because people would leave their camera on before boarding an airline, then fill up the cabin with smoke.
@@DreamReleases R5 doesn't overheat anymore... hasn't for about 2 years now as firmware fixed all that. As for the 30 min record limit, that will never be lifted from the old R5.
@@DreamReleases Did that really happen ? I know that phones can explode, mine nearly did. But I think the reason is some tax that was applied for devices that recorded for more than 30 mins... but I am not sure. Either way, I don't see a reason to keep the 30 min limit on the R5 other than to encourage people to buy a new camera that doesn't have the limit.
@@77dris Sorry to tell you that in 4k HQ or 8k the R5 still overheats in a room with AC. But yeah in 4k 30fps and below I don't see it overheating.
Accord to some channels , canon r5 mark ii does overheat. But none is mentioning 😂
Now Canon, please transfer the R5 sensor to R6 Mark III and I am set for life.
better than the r3 for less money it seems? nice! I wont be getting one, personally, but hopefully the r6iii gets a stacked sensor next!
As a R3 owner I will buy this r5 to be my B cam. The R3 is just too good in the hand 😮. The R5mk2 will be my portrait camera
R3 would be better for a pro sports shooter
Awesome specs..but wow I cant even afford the first model lol, but Nice video..
might be a great time to buy a Canon 1D or Nikon D6 :)
sensor readout speed in this camera slower than Nikon z8 actually 1/3 speed
It reminds me of Samsung Moon's 🌕 Photo 45MP>190MP
I may have missed it in your video; but does it come with 2nd curtain sync for non-canon external flash? I have to use Sony on some commercial shoots because my R5 doesn't offer 2nd curtain sync with my profoto's.
Just want to know how was the dynamic range 🤣
Dynamic range?
For what I can tell, it’s good and that’s something that’s very important to me
@Mike1984-lc9rhcanon I think claims 16 stops? Thats class leading DR performance.
@@MannyOrtiz My only complaint about the R5 Mark II is that it's a downgrade from the R5C in ONE category. The R5C has proven that 8K oversampled 4K60p is possible and Nikon had 8K oversampled 4K60p for years but the R5 Mark II still limits it to only 30fps (4K-D Fine and 4K-U Fine are limited to 30fps). The R5 Mark II would be capable of 8K oversampled 4K60p as R5C has proven but Canon seemingly doesn't want to give us oversampled 4K60p to leave it as an exclusive feature for their R5C.
Their newest R5 Mark II should at least match everything their older R5C was capable of. Canon gave us 8K oversampled 4K60p and then took it from us again. Cutting features from your newest flagship camera to leave them as exclusive features on an older camera even though their new camera would technically be capable of is a bad look!!
It's not too late to fix this by bringing 8K oversampled 4K60p to the R5 Mark II with a firmware update though.
Buy a nikon Z8
Why??
A camera with a pretty average af
@@ghalibsworld because its a better camera in every aspect
Has the 30 minute time limit for video been removed?
I was wondering the same thing. The artificial limit is the one thing about my R5 that I can't stand. Manny, did Canon tell the influencers not to talk about this?
Still, great video.
It’s been removed, only thing you need to watch out for is overheating in some modes if yours shooting long takes
Again, why is this almost 1000euros over the z8 ?
Can’t wait for Sony’s answer to this 😌
$800 more and a year newer than the Z8 with pretty much the same specs. I would call that a fail
Can someone help me with a question about the r5 mii. Im coming from the r6mii and im unfamiliar with the screen on top next to the mode. The screen there stays black when turned off. Is that normal? Thank you!
Does the flicker free function work when using the electronic shutter of the R5M2?
As a current R5 owner I’m not shocked about Canon not having any creativity for a mark ii. It’s 2024 and that the best they do? At 4200 bucks at that? Nope, not me Canon 😂
Could you tell us what R5 II should have been to be creative? Just curious
@@Chris-ti7lz My point is this camera isn’t much of an upgrade from the original R5. You need to buy a separate grip with a fan on it to record 4k 60 unlimited? Come on, micro 4/3 has been doing that for years without the need of a battery grip. For 4k bucks it should do what a camera that cost 1500 can do
@@mmpllc77eye tracking auto focusing system which the R5 doesn’t have. Please pay attention to the features and not what you think is expensive.
@@Davitor1 oh yea, eye tracking auto focus is a game changer. How did those ancient photographers survive without it?
Many of the complaints people had about the r5 have been resolved with the II:
-Poor DR? Markedly improved to 16 stops (?)
-30min limit? Gone
-Wobbly Ibis? Apparently improved
-Micro HDMI? Now a full size
-bad video codecs? Now has cinema codecs and an Sraw in 4k
-Only Clog3? Now has clog2
-Useless pixel shift? Now useable in camera
Not to mention improved speed and autofocus, better ergonomics and the new multi hotshoe. The only downside is the line skipped 4k 60p which I am surprised they couldn’t fix. I guess if you’re looking for a camera to shoot long periods of 8k raw then you’ll be disappointed but for the average shooter it’s pretty much good for everything.
Its clear that the R5 II was made better because its the one people are actually going to buy instead of of the Canon R3 Mark ii sorry I mean the Canon R1😭 They are still good cameras i am glad canon is catching up😭
Who buys Canon now with crazy prices and no third party lenses , sony is the way forward.